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Over half of nairalanders are not living in nigeria and so many don't even intend going back to nigeria so you suggestion is wrong i guess.

[quote author=pilgrim.1 link=topic=100699.msg1860097#msg1860097 date=1200566707]@mazaje,

How body?

Isn't it ironical that something is actually troubling you? Why all the unnecessary over-reaction if you are at peace with yourself?[/quote]The only thing that is troubling me  is the fact that people like you waste time spreading hate and division  all in the name of religion(christianity, islam,hinduism etc). Who told you that your faith is better than the catholic faith? how did you know? who were the ones that formed the christian religion? who were the people that choose the books that are now called the bible? who were the ones that choose the various symbols of christianity(cross,rossary,trinity,hyme,choir etc), who were the ones that choose the christain day of worship and christain festivities? Who were the ones that made sure the christianity is what it is today by exterminating all dissidents and making sure that their own way and idea is what remains and is practised all over the world? Have you ever heard of the chattars and the Knight Templers(read about them incase you have no idea of who the are)? would the present day christianity still have been the way it is if not for the catholic church? stop wallowing in ignorance and dessist from skewed judgement. The answer to all the question I asked above is tha catholic church, The whole christain idea and concept emanated from the catholics no wonder  Pope Leo X (1475-1521), was alleged to have said "the fable of Christ has been quite profitable to us". Keep on deluding your self and pretending that your cult is better than that of the others.

Deranged cultist, why all the confussion and madness. religion is pure madness i must say. Christianity is just a mixture of different cults. keep deluding your selves trying to prove which cult is better than the other.

Kia no be small thing ohhh.

Talk is cheap a very close look at the koran will tell you that all what you have stated are not in line with the principles of the koran. infidels are the enemies of allah it is clearly written in the koran, unserious moslems will like to believe  and behave like you but the serious minded ones always know that the infidels are disliked by allah and don't deserve any thing good in life. I know very well what i am saying as a former muslim. because i have lived the life.

author=Horus link=topic=93545.msg1851950#msg1851950 date=1200345583]
I am NOT trying to make anybody believe,this is a FACT.
ANY living organism who lack melanin is ALBINO.(Look at the definition of Albinism in the medical dictionary)

Hey stop your stupid, baseless and unfounded fallacies, we are all tired of it you directionless fibber, your hatred for the white man should not lead you to such dispecable lies. what do you mean by declaring that the white an is part man and part beast? are you on cheap drugs? some people never fail to amaze me.

Religion to me as i aforementioned is the understanding of the supernatural through the perceptions and believes of people. The white people and jews believe in reaching to god through christianity and judaism, a close look at the christain religion will reveal to any objective person the refelection of the white man's Ideals,culture,belief, conception and understanding of the world he lives in and how he connects it all to his god through christianity, islam on the other hand is just the understanding of the supernatural and the world in which he lives  in an arabs man's perpective, a closer look at the religion too will show a refelction of how he understands life, how he believes it should be lived, how he connects to his surronding environment and how he connects it all to his supernatural god. Hinduism, budahism and all the other religions are more like cultures associated with people's beliefs and how they connect it to their supernatural being.

i still find it hard to believe that china and japan with all their great history and achievements were not mentioned in the bible, should one wonder why? the white people at that time never knew that such places existed hence the ommision or lack of chronicle, the bible only gives account of the whites, blacks and arabs because those were the people that were relating with the writers and founders of the christain religion at that time. If the christain god is a god of the whole world then he would have reveal him self to the whole world regardless of the distance, tribe or location the people found them selves. Imagine china had been existing at that time yet nothing was said about them or did  the christain god not have a message for them too?  i still find it hard to believe that the most populated countries on earth(Indai and China) wre not mentioned in the bible.

The koran never made mention of the americas, nothing was said of the american indians who reside in south america, these people have been existing since pre islamic times but they were never mentioned simple because islam like christianity is the religion of the arabs and those that founded the religion equated it to their daily struggles as a people, they didnt include anything or any group of people that they did'nt know existed at that time. The question here too is that does allah not have plans for the people living in the americas? why was there no message or mention of them during the time of the prophet of allah and in the book of allah?

If the chinese or indians were the ones that discovered africa and had as much influence as the whites most of africa would have been practsing their religions. All religions were created out of the fear of the many and the cleverness of the few.

[quote author=pilgrim.1 link=topic=93545.msg1847985#msg1847985 date=1200247450]@mazaje,

There really is no need for all the over-reaction, unless a simple answer to your fallacies really got you re-thinking your misconseptions.

If you want answers, ask nicely - and you will get them. Cheers.[/quote]Ok pls tell us where the bible talked about china and india.

Blackcat:
Genesis 4: 17- 22

17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch[/color]: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.


18 And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat [color=#000099]Lamech.

19 And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.

20 And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle. (Hausa and Fulani)

21 And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ. (Blacks are masters of music)

22 And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah. (Blacks are very good with their hands, very innovative)

Need I say more

you are lost i most say

almondjoy:
He he he he he he he!!!

E don happen!!!

In Nigeria especially, about 50% of children in any giving home do not belong to the "man" of the house. IF DNA tests were to be carried out on all children in Nigeria, it would be a national shocker to see what the results would be.

In essence 50% of the children in your house do not belong to your dad, i love that line of reasoning, talk is cheap they say, have a lovely day ahead baby

Shut the F up you stupid bigot, of all the things i stated islam is the only thing you saw, keep deluding your self you deranged lunatic, instead of trying to explain why china and india (the most populated nations on earth) where not mentioned  and chronicled in the bible islam is the only thing you saw.

Do you know that what we have today in very broad terms are actually blood brothers? The three sons of Noah who worshipped Jehovah God as we have in the bible, i.e. Shem, Ham and Japhet are the fathers of the broad races we have today? When i say broad races, i mean - Caucasians, Blacks and the Middle Easterners? Japheth is the father of the whites (Caucasians), Ham - the father of the blacks or hamitic people and Shem, the father of the middle easterners (including Isrealites and Arabs put together)? Do you know the pronouncements that their father Noah made on each of his three sons and what he said about their respective futures? Do you mind studying the bible to see how the past prophecies of Noah and other prophets are coming to pass concerning racism and the plan of God for all these races in the end times

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Who then is the father of the orientals(chinese, japaness,koreans and mongolians?) since the bible only mentioned 3 races? how come they have never been mentioned in the bible? who is the father of the indians and south americans? who is the father of the indians in bolivia,chile,brazil and columbia? the only race mentioned in the bible are middle easterns, caucasians and the black race because those were they only people that the writers of the bible knew about at that time, they didnt know about the indains and the chinese not because they didnt exist but because they didnt know about them that was why they were'nt included in the bible.

Religion to me is just the understanding of the supernatural through the perception and believe of people, Chritianity is purely a white man's religion while islam is purely an arab man's religion, buddahism is the way people in china understand god while hinduism is the way people in south east asia understand the supernatural being.before they white people and arabs came black people had their own beliefs and worshiped their own gods, why is there no mention of china or india in the bible the countries with the highest population on earth? the answer is simple because the people that wrote the bible did not know that a place called china or india existed at that time if not they would have included them in the bible and told them of gods plan for them too. nonsense.

I saw this comment in one of the other blog posts, and I really like it so I'm posting it again here.

Let's keep our eye on the ball and not get suckered back into the divisive politics. Let's also point it out to others when they start going down that road.

"I'm saddened to see gender and racial politics get greater play in the press these past couple of days. The Clinton campaign's comeback strategy after Iowa is getting clearer to me: portray Hillary as a victim of sexism and goad black voters into claiming racism to alienate white voters. Divide and conquer. The gender game started to work in New Hampshire thanks to Hillary's tears and the hyperventilating press reaction.

They are now hoping to see galvanized black commentators and organizers accuse the Clintons of racism on TV so that they can associate Obama with the "angry black man" who finds racism in such "innocent," "misunderstood" comments. This will also give them a chance to get self-righteous and brag about all the good things they've done in their political careers on behalf of civil rights (while at the same time sharing a disappointed shake of the head with "good white people out there" who feel so misunderstood by black people like Obama). The Clintons know the media and they know that American politics has always been about identity politics. Getting past that style/rule is the revolutionary basis of Obama's campaign -- and the Clintons are trying their mightiest to change the game back to what they're most comfortable with, bare-knuckled, divisive, win at all cost politics. They'll lose South Carolina, but they're hoping to win the war.

This assumes that Americans are dumb and won't catch onto their game. I'm confident that they're underestimating the electorate.

One of the fascinating aspects of Obama's first book was his remarkably nuanced/refined understanding of American perceptions of race. He is as well prepared to manage through this as anyone. Good luck sir. The country needs you now!"

This is a non issue to me,why dont they change the position of the bed so that it is not positioned against the wall. since they both want to spleep at the open end.

Hillary clinton is a very calculative and manupulative person that will do and say anything to get into power. she lies about having 35 years of experience when all she has is 7 years as an elected official(senator) with nothing to show for it  she has never authored any major bill of her own that has been signed into law. She changes position all the time as far as it is politically convienient,voted for the war in iraq (without even reading the national intellegience estimates) when it was popular to do so and went against it when it became unpopular.voted against the use of ethanol then voted for it when it became popular, she was for NAFTA when it was popular and now she is against it after it has become unpopular, voted against the patriot act and now supports it(she totally lacks good judgement), changed her campaign slogan about 4 times in a year from "experience"  to "change"  now to "experience to bring about change", (always coping what barack obama does) infact she is part of the system that needs to be changed since she has been part of the system for 35 years as she claims and was unable to change it what makes her think she can change it in 4 years.

She can't take any decision on her own, from planting questions in the campaign trail to spewing unsubstantiated vemon at her opponents when she feels threatened to bringing bill to help her answer questions at the campaign trail. She still collects money from federal lobbyist(drugs, insurance and oil companies) knowing fully well that they are the obstacle to change in washington,they helped in sinking her health care plan back in the 90s but she still dines and wines with them on the same table and still goes ahead promising change(i wonder what kind of change she will bring to the system).

She has the highest negatives of any presidentail candidate ever, about half of Americans said they will never vote for her no matter what so i wonder why she is still running because its already a lose, lose situation for her, the republicans and their attack machine are seriously praying and hoping that she wins the nomination so that they will bring her and her campaign down with all the dirt they have piled up against her. the republicans know that she is the only one they can run against and beat completely, she is their only hope of retaining the white house.

She is a very polarizing figure that will never work to get anything done in washington she will prefer to spend all her years in the white house fighting the left wing machine instead of working for the people, she will invigorate the republican base and they will come all out and vote against her if she becomes the nominee, The woman is'nt qualified and is not a uniter, she has so many personal flaws she is cold and not a nice person, she would'nt have been known by any one if she were'nt the wife of bill, every other candidate running is running on his own record, she has spent 7 years in the senate with no bill of her while own obama has spent about 4 years in the senate with 2 bills of his that have been signed into law. she touts about spending 35 years serving the people yet she refuses to release those documents of her work in the white house to show the people what was really going on at that time. Hillary is against change because she and her people are the forces of status quo.

Big B1:
FYI:
If a black man has a chance atall to be United States president, my friend, this is the time.
At this point, Americans don't give a damn about who is running; they are desperate, they are losing their houses, food price is sky high, gas price is very painful, heating oil price is deadly and unemployment rate continues to increase.

If your strategy is attractive and feasible, they will buy what you're cooking.
It will be a miracle, but I think Obama has a decent chance.

Well said BigB1, When will people get this, Barack Obama has changed the way people view politics in America, people are  turning out in great numbers to vote just because of him  so many first time voters who would have stayed at home are not participating because of him, unprecedented voter turn outs are being recorded(shortage of ballot papers are being recorded in some parts of New Hamshire), he has been able to excite people like no one in recent history, even republican Mike Huckbee said so, he also added that all of them (Presedential Hopefulls) should give him that credit, Obama's message of change resonates with the american people and they want an end to all the division and bickering in washington, they want to have affordable health care, pay less for colleage, keep their houses not loose them to foreclosures, Retire honarable and with dignity, and they also want an end to the war in Iraq.

Americans want some one that will work with the congress to get things done for the people not someone who is extreamly partisan and someone who is a polarising figure. They have seen those good qualities in Obama and are coming out in very large numbers to vote for him regardless of his skin colour. Obama is an American running for president who happens to be a black man not a black man running for persident. His mesage is simple, stay positive and always remember that there is not a Blue America, Red America, Black America, White America but The United States of America. The Audacity of hope The great man Barack Obama.

Obama is a uniter who every body can work with to get things done, he represents the future while hillary is is very polarizing and represents the past. The Audacity of HOPE!

The Audacity of HOPE!!!!!

almondjoy:
Not much really.  Nigerian movies can only be improved when the quality of Nigerian lives improve.  Movies reflect the true nature of the society.  I guess we have to wait a long time for that since we are still struggling to "fight" corruption.

American movies show American way of living without on ounce of exaggeration. So Nigerian movies are only towing the same line. Nothing to change then.

I quite agree and disagree with this statement, the american movies are not always a true reflection of the american society in some cases. I believe they are more a reflection of the creativity of the movie directors and producers which I Consider to be extreamly excellent, remember these movies are created to entertain the audience or viewers, The movies to an extent depict the true american way of life but some of them are just an outright exaggeration of things on ground. So try to be disenchanted baby

jayon:
islam as cost the world our peace , bombing everywhere thats a religion thats as destroyed peoples view of God , how can we solve this problem,whats your view about this religion

seems you have forgotten that the christains exterminated and killed more people in history than the muslims, the Cathars and the Knights Templars were all killed by the christains during the time of inqusition. Hitler worked with the roman Catholic Church to exterminate the jews in the world but the whole story was spinned and the thruth was never told to the people.

On the bright side, Islam is only 1,300 years old, and religions have a definite life-cycle, just like people. If you look at Christianity in 1300 C.E., two words spring to mind: Inquisition and Crusade(some of the greatest crimes to humanity). Maybe the 1300s are just the rebellious teenage years for islam, it too like christianity will change with time.

almondjoy:
Well said!!!!

No, we did not get you wrong.  What you are telling us is that it is "just the way it is" with men and women can do nothing about it.  Leaving the man is not realistic because most women would be single. So the bottom line is to ask Hilary Clinton. 

I am sure Hilary and Bill Clinton have not have sex in over 20 years, sleeping in seperate floors of the house not to talk of bedroom.  I know many couples in Nigeria especially who are not divorced but live separate lives while living under the same roof.  They are just friends that happen to be married. I could probably be like Hilary too for my kids' sake.  But I will never have anything to do with that man as far as sex is concerned. 

People have different ways of dealing with infidelity.  Most married people do not sleep together and just sit there for what the want to accomplish instead of going through a nasty divorce. I can understand that.  Whatever method a woman uses should not include tolerating a cheating spouse or partner.

You have decided to accept the reality of a cheating partner and I can respect that.  All I wonder is how you protect yourself from one you know has cheated on you. Do you have any concerns about your health at all?

I do much more than you think, we are talking about dealing with cheating husbands and my own take on this is that violence and running away is not the way out, you have to fight for what is yours sometimes, if you decide to leave your man because you caught him cheating for the first time then be prepared to live alone all your life.

If you find out that he is a perpertual cheat leaving him will be the best option but leaving him on the first offence of cheating doesnt make sense and that is how you have put it which i completely don't agree with. If that's the lane you have choosen then be prepared to marry 10 men in your life time or be prepared to be alone without a man since your are black, strong, indepandent and you don't need any man around you. lots of love to my strong, black and independent sista that can't handle a cheat around her

The Audacity of hope,Hope in things unseen, hope in things that brings people together to get things done, hope for the betterment of a Nation, hope for peace security and progress,Hope for equality and justice, hope for a Nation healed,Hope that we can believe in,Hope that works,Hope that moves a Nation forward, Hope to dream again and acheive great things in life , the Audacity of hope, The great man Barack Obama

Hey ladies  you ladies have gotten me all wrong.  I know that trust is the bedrock of any REAL relationship. I don't condone cheating and i wouldn't advice any lady to give her man a Mouth Action any time she finds him cheating on her, but the truth still remains that if cheating is a reason for a woman to leave her man then there will be no married women on earth and am dead serious(if you think am lying then go and ask Hillary Clinton). my general principle in life is to always expect the unexpected, i live with an open mind and when things go wrong i accept it and move on, i am not the type that will delude my self into believing that my wife will NEVER cheat on me, i will not expect her to cheat but if she does i will accept it and move i won't beat her up or kill her for doing that because i know she is a human being and people do shit, thats the human nature.

The reason why black females are high on the list of those affected with Aids in The states is because of cheating spouses, so people should ignore statistics and risk their lives because heartbroken mazaje said so?

I disagree with this statement, white men cheat just like black men(if not more), using AIDS to validate your stance doesn't make much sense to me, because there is more to AIDS that meets the ordinary eyes. I live in a country where the easiest thing a man can get is sex(nude clubs,orgy clubs for gays and striaght etc) but yet i have never seen or heard about a person living with HIV/ AIDS here,in fact it was here that i came to know that there is a thing called "swinging", all i know is that the people here have more sex than the people in Nigeria but there is no HIV/AIDS  here. so your argument holds no water. If you look at the list of countries whose citizens claim to have the most amount of sex you will discover that there are no African countries in the list yet Africans have the highest rate of HIV/AIDS in the world so i disagree with that statement.

He probably caught something too!!!!  That is why he wants everyone to be a victim too.  Yes, it is easier said than done but who says it cannot be done?  Takes a lot of discipline to move on.

LADIES SAY NO TO DEATH!!!!

Take it easy baby, lots of love :

Na wah ohh no be small thing.

Busta:
and u too Mr Woman Wrapper!

The truth is bitter they say, but nevertheless i wish a lovely weekend baby

Busta:
Once I find out that my husband is cheating, I am leaving his ass!

As the saying goes it's easier said than done. If that's the reason you will leave your husband then prepare to be the next Elizabeth Taylor. Keep dreaming on baby

almondjoy:
So you say I should sit there fasting and praying till God calls me right?

Only HIV+ peeps think like you   I see you have lost all hope at self preservation.

JUST TRY VISITING AN HIV+person or one that has end stage AIDS; or you may learn the very hard lesson that you do not risk your life for anyone

Unless I do not have the proof that I have a cheating spouse.  If I do; it is going to be extremely difficult to carry on a normal relationship.  If I test positive for anything other than PREGNANCY;  There is going to be a very big problem.  Both villages are definitely going to hear about the mess.

Sorry I no do oooooooooooooooooooooooh

Keep deluding your self and keep dreaming on, its good and very easy to always to say what you wish and want, i have seen so many like you who are very good orators but the exact opossite is what is obtainable in their private lives so keep dreaming on baby .

[quote author=I-man link=topic=103487.msg1819567#msg1819567 date=1199447774]The most capable in the presidential race are Rudy Guiliani,Mitt Romney and Hillary Clinton .Obama represents good soundbite but has little to offer in terms of well thought out policy positions.

If you are into superficiality-skin colour and wonderful rhetoric-go for Obama,for those less superficial than the rest;Clinton,Romney and Rudy offer more than nice soundbites.Rhetoric and skin colour won't put food on people's tables nor will it safeguard US national security interests.[/quote]Why all the conclusions? who told you that the names you listed above are better than Obama? How are they better than him? The same thing was said about former president bill clintion when he came out in 92 most people said he was a joke and will never deliver but he proved the pundits wrong, Obama is the man American needs right now. I very much believe that if given the chance he will perform very well.

almondjoy:
Having had all the time in the world to think about this, I think I will cease all "conjugal" relationships with the "cheating" spouse. My life is very valuable to me. I pray he continues cheating so he does not need my services any longer.

Definitely time to move into another bedroom or another house. Legal separation is in order here I believe. --Till the final divorce papers are served. Think I have had enough bedroom activities to last me a life time to put up with a potentially infectious host.


I can never risk my life with a cheating spouse.

It's good to think wishfully,Keep dreaming on.

dimpules:
@blueband and mazaje.

good talk you hear. u guys are just talking. when it happens i hope you are not devastated. some guys don't cheat. if you are the cheating ones then your tough luck. We all sin but its about discipline and if you can't discipline yourself others can so don't generalize.

I am not saying that cheating should be accepted, but over 90 percent of men do it and its kind of like mainstream these days besides it is acceptable in most societies, its better to expect the unexpected than to live expecting nothing bad will come your way from your spouse. Men Cheat and women cheat too living with a free mind and accepting it if is occurs is better than being closed minded and refusing to accept it even when it  occurs. I have seen my girl with a man and i was'nt devastated i was'nt really expecting it but knowing that shit happens all the time i took it with an open mind and i moved on, I felt bad but was'nt devastated at all. Life is all about personal interest as i have come to realize, no one is to be trusted thats just the human nature. people always do bad things as far as they believe they will not be caught.

blueband:
I know for sure my girlfriend is capable of cheating on me.It has happened in the past with someone else.I thought she was a saint,when I found out I was devastated.These days,I just learn to treat everyone as HUMAN,ALL capable of sinning.So if she sins I am not as devastated.

Thats the problem most people fail to understand once you accept that fact then your life will be a lot easier, Men will NEVER stop cheating women have to accept that awful fact, women cheat too and  some men are accepting it, life is never what it seems, the worst thing in life is to believe that your spouse or partner is a saint and will never cheat on you that's the worst self deciet any human being can do to his/her self, always have an open mind and you will experience less pain in your relationship.

Backslider:
There is nothing wrong with the Black man. It is corruption in the High places desired by both RICH and POOR.

We are the ones that say if I get there I will Chop also.

I disagree with this statement there is something really wrong with the black man. you don't have to look far enough to see it, some of the western countries are super corrupt but they still manage to feed, educate, provide shelter and the basic necessities of life to their citizens. Take an introspective look at africa and you will see that the problem is much more than corruption, infact it's more than what meets the eyes.

Any country that can not solve it's power problem can never solve any other problem it has because power to a nation is like food to a human being which nourishes and maintains life with out it no country can grow. Dubai(United Arab Emirates) and Malaysia were both poorer than Nigeria in the 70's but see where they are today, some one rightly stated that we need not sit down and device for means any more all we need to do is think and apply what has already been invented so that we can grow yet we can't do that not so difficult task. The white people had to sit down think discover, invent and apply before they became what they are, they havent relented because they are still thinking and applying, we have everything at our disposal yet we just cant apply anything. Imagine yar'adua still goes to germany for kidney treatment chie the black man is doomed.

kaycrystal:
@mazaje

we learnt what was actually submitted to obj was vision 2025 based on ecomomic indices and all. but the obj economic mgt team decided vision 2020 probably sounded better without any recourse to those indices
the ecomomy is to grow at least 15% yearly, the manufacturing sector should be alive.

but obviously with the level of power generation, a CBN governor that is meant to host a night of a thousand laughs, a president that has engaged the reverse gear, an economy that imports toothpicks,u can imagine or better still u knw where we'll be in 2020

No be small thing.