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Our Properity pastors can be said to be Greed machines,
who prey on the most ignorant and desperate people in our society.
Rarely if ever teaching how to obtain eternal riches, through faith in Jesus Christ, rarely if ever calling an unregenerate person what he is, a sinner, rarely if ever mentioning hell.

It's all about physical health and worldly wealth, in which the true word of God speaks of as a worthless, waste of time. "Send Me Money", "Plant A Seed", "watch your riches grow!" Lies from the money hungry mouths of those who only want to build personal wealth for themselves and use the precious word of God, a distorted version none the less, to propagate their business.

Of course anyone who is spiritually led, knows that God's word teaches nothing of their fantasy of name it, claim it and send me some dollars. God's word speaks of the false teachers in Titus 1:11
whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.

Filthy Lucre being defined as money, worldly goods. The requirement for a pastor is that he is not in love with money
Tit 1:7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre; Scammers using the Gospel for a means of gain. The money hungry "teachers" are already disqualified from even being a pastor.


Million dollar homes, the finest cars and all the best this world has to offer. All at the expense of the true Gospel. Those scammed are as guilty as these scammers.

For if those who are being scammed knew their bible, which is the individual responsibility of everyone, they would be able to discern these spirits as being not of God.

But instead the scammed keep sending the scammers more and more filthy lucre, until now it is a multi-million dollar business. The doctrines of these false teachers are designed to stimulate people with enthusiasm.

The more emotion, the more dollars. Make 'em feel good, tell 'em how great they are and how all they need to do is learn the "secrets" of God's prosperity. The only problem is their secret is sending them more cash, "sowing more seeds", the money kind that is. Twisting scriptures, although they rarely open a bible. What they teach has nothing to do with God's word or God's teachings and is more on the line of witchcraft and spells.

First we'll take a look at the Old Testament under the Mosaic Law.

Remember, the Old Testament gives us the mind and will of God. Deut. 17:16-17

God says "But he shall not multiply horses to himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt, to the end that he should multiply horses: forasmuch as the LORD hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way. Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold. "

Now the mind of God is very clear here as God commands the Israelites not to multiply up for themselves horses, being the main worldly trade in that day, and also not to multiply up for themselves "silver and gold". God's servant must carefully avoid every thing that would turn him from God and his service to God. Riches, honor and pleasures, are three great hinderances of godliness, (the lusts of the flesh, the lusts of the eye, and the pride of life).


This of course was Solomon's downfall. Solomon exploited the gift of wisdom that he had received from God and used the gift for financial gain. God did not approved of Solomon's wealth, but allowed his gains as a source of instruction for those of us in the future who would study the life of Solomon, who in the end, declared all to be Vanity of vanities all is vanity. Solomon was no doubt the wealthiest man who ever lived. In fact his wealth has been calculated at today's economic measurements and he would measure up today as a multi-billionaire. But in the book of Ecclesiastes, which is a memoir of Solomon's life, he declares of all his riches, Vanity of vanities all is vanity, meaning it was all a vain and meaningless waste of time.

ehie: http://www.gospelrevivaloutreach.com/prosperity-preachers---the-false-health-and-wealth-gospel.html

Our Properity pastors can be said to be Greed machines,
who prey on the most ignorant and desperate people in our society.
Rarely if ever teaching how to obtain eternal riches, through faith in Jesus Christ, rarely if ever calling an unregenerate person what he is, a sinner, rarely if ever mentioning hell.

It's all about physical health and worldly wealth, in which the true word of God speaks of as a worthless, waste of time. "Send Me Money", "Plant A Seed", "watch your riches grow!" Lies from the money hungry mouths of those who only want to build personal wealth for themselves and use the precious word of God, a distorted version none the less, to propagate their business.

Of course anyone who is spiritually led, knows that God's word teaches nothing of their fantasy of name it, claim it and send me some dollars. God's word speaks of the false teachers in Titus 1:11
whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.

Filthy Lucre being defined as money, worldly goods. The requirement for a pastor is that he is not in love with money
Tit 1:7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre; Scammers using the Gospel for a means of gain. The money hungry "teachers" are already disqualified from even being a pastor.


Million dollar homes, the finest cars and all the best this world has to offer. All at the expense of the true Gospel. Those scammed are as guilty as these scammers.

For if those who are being scammed knew their bible, which is the individual responsibility of everyone, they would be able to discern these spirits as being not of God.

But instead the scammed keep sending the scammers more and more filthy lucre, until now it is a multi-million dollar business. The doctrines of these false teachers are designed to stimulate people with enthusiasm.

The more emotion, the more dollars. Make 'em feel good, tell 'em how great they are and how all they need to do is learn the "secrets" of God's prosperity. The only problem is their secret is sending them more cash, "sowing more seeds", the money kind that is. Twisting scriptures, although they rarely open a bible. What they teach has nothing to do with God's word or God's teachings and is more on the line of witchcraft and spells.

First we'll take a look at the Old Testament under the Mosaic Law.

Remember, the Old Testament gives us the mind and will of God. Deut. 17:16-17

God says "But he shall not multiply horses to himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt, to the end that he should multiply horses: forasmuch as the LORD hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way. Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold. "

Now the mind of God is very clear here as God commands the Israelites not to multiply up for themselves horses, being the main worldly trade in that day, and also not to multiply up for themselves "silver and gold". God's servant must carefully avoid every thing that would turn him from God and his service to God. Riches, honor and pleasures, are three great hinderances of godliness, (the lusts of the flesh, the lusts of the eye, and the pride of life).
Solomon's down fall was disobedience.He left the almighty God for smaller gods.Remember solomon asked for wisdom and God said i will not only give you wisdom but also riches(wealth)So God's wealth can't be vanity but wealth without Jesus is vanity upon vanity !

This of course was Solomon's downfall. Solomon exploited the gift of wisdom that he had received from God and used the gift for financial gain. God did not approved of Solomon's wealth, but allowed his gains as a source of instruction for those of us in the future who would study the life of Solomon, who in the end, declared all to be Vanity of vanities all is vanity. Solomon was no doubt the wealthiest man who ever lived. In fact his wealth has been calculated at today's economic measurements and he would measure up today as a multi-billionaire. But in the book of Ecclesiastes, which is a memoir of Solomon's life, he declares of all his riches, Vanity of vanities all is vanity, meaning it was all a vain and meaningless waste of time.

Techwriter: There is no need for a response. Kukah said his mind based on his level of understanding and does not represent the opinion of most of us who believe nothing wrong with our pastors having the good things of life provided it was gotten legit. Oyedepo for instance has never taken any political stance, he is not seeking the favor of any political leader to be relevant. He is not seeking their favor for anytn.

I respect Pst Tunde Bakare so much, infact I campaigned for and voted for him in the last election even though I know he sometimes speaks b4 editing. He is still anointed and he is a prophet but he should not join the camp of the accuser of the brethren. Kukahs own is understandable becos the leadership of CAN has left the erstwhile cold catholic approach to become a voice of its own

paulworld: i can't just imagine d way some pple behave. only God will judge but come to thing of all this churches pastors, if really all were for God i guess Nigeria wouldn't have been in the state at which we are

let me not judge

Rhymez: The last time I checked, the rosary contains prayers to God almighty like "Our Father"," I believe in God", "Glory be to The Father, son and Holy spirit". and mysteries of Jesus christ. So I think the rosary is a strong weapon because it doesnt contradict the prayer of a true christian. Remember that Jesus taught us how to pray "Our father". Many churches dont even pray it today

adamsalman: If it be, Catholism is d ONLY one ordaind by GOD. Protestant waz formd in d 16century, protesting {as d name implies} against d Wish of GOD dat doz nt conform wt d interest of a selectd few among d congregatn, so dey separate, & it haz bn a continous circle hapnin in most of our churches today. Itz pathetic som cant even distinguish btw d fashion rosary & d praying rosary! & d aclaimd Inspired BOOK OF GOD (BIBLE) is nt evn wholy considerd trustworthy & reliable among us, hence we'r selectv in d aceptance of some Books in d Bible, eg.DUET.& odas! Sayin ds 4 Catholic,ds 4 Protestant,etc. Itz intelectualy horrendous!

luluosas: That is true but, let me tell you that, my eldest sister married one of the Deeper Life pastors (Felix Fadoju - Real names), from Ondo State. Today, he has abandoned my sister with her 5 children and impregnated another lady, who have delivered a baby boy for him already. Felix is roaming the cities of Nigeria today, with the intention of traveling abroad. His wicked acts against the wife gone as far as selling the wife's car and also the plot of land she was developing in Benin City, Edo State.

ciphoenix: i think i get the drift now. They count FIRST, you count second, and they do the last count as a casual confirmation. Thats makes you unsuspicious. And they swipe some notes while doing the last count. WOW, I HAVE TO GIVE IT TO THEM. THOSE GUYS ARE GENIUSES

Tstark: Stop talking trash, its not juju its a simple trick. If you recount the money before pocketing it u will catch them red handed. They rely on you counting it along with them and pocketing it afterwards to succeed.

denitro: Check out this thread.. Lots of eye witness accounts.
https://www.nairaland.com/249720/new-419-method-dont-exchange

One of the notes in the bundle has been conjured or something.
They give you the money, you count, its one note short.
They give you the note that will complete the amount, you hand over
your dollar and leave.
Some metres away, you money is gone by half.
Pure evil..
I experienced it two years ago.
I changed $1000 and was given like N155,000+
I counted it and the bundle of N1,000 of 100 (N100,000) was short by 1 note
and the other bundle of N1,000 of 55 was also short by 1 note
the guy gave me 2 N1,000 to complete the money.
I gave him my dollars and left.
Got home and found out the money like N90,000+.
I wept.

bankylan: ......I hope Seun Osewa will be sensitive enough and try to do something about people saying negative things about ordained men of God.

He provides this platform, and I hope he will not be held accountable. I wouldn't know how much success he has achieved, but I am sure he still has a long way to go..but for having this platform, I really respect him and I give kudos to him.

But if he does not want this platform to be stagnant or lose its worth, I strongly believe he has to censor what is posted on this site especially as regards men of God.

He has the traffic, but I am wondering if someone like me will ever want to put my advert on nairaland given my perception of the caliber of people that often visit this site. I don't see them as potential buyers!!!

You want to see comments that are not subjective, deep, and intelligent, but it seems the majority of the visitors are unemployed and frustrated folks. There are few people with intelligent comments, and I am sure some of them will have my reservations.

But my fear is if Seun is a Christian by faith or by religion. If it is later, then I won't expect any change or his 'thank you' for my comments.

secreyor: CURSE!!..that's all nigerians are good at.why border,in every family,community,church,country,etc,there are bound to be d poor and d rich,now d truth is d rich get richer cos dat's all they spend all their energy working at,while d poor remains poor cos he can't stop ranting every about some person,body,or organisation dat have no connection with d their state governance..A GO has a private jet,so what?...he didn't make his 60% congregation any poorer,cos to me,if u wanna go to church,choose d one inwhich u can relate to their teachings,attend services,seek God's face in truth,then go home and continue with ur life.The church is not a charity home where d poor come seek for human help,but a place where both d rich and d poor come to seek salvation.Trust me,if u come to my church,and you wanna spend ur time counting d amt of multi-million naira cars at d garrages,u'll grow old..To me ppl should stop this lazy attitude of BLAME,i hate it,cos even my family,my own uncle owns a jet,but his immediate younger sister(my mom) sometimes uses d public transport (no fuel).We nigerians need to learn d principle of hardwork,if at all u want to blame,focus on d govt. not ur pastor.As for pastors,i see no problem owning private jets,mansions or whatever,they are mere men who also deserve it..Pls focus ur blame on d govt.,leave ur GO alone and seek God's face in truth.

EDAMS: well said most of the members of nairaland are frustrated and jobless people who find solace in condemning
anything that concern MOGs and other institutions.

usmsam: @Sisi_kill You just made my night.

RANT
I do not know why Christians still defend their "Men of God". It is absolutely irritating when i see church members wallowing in poverty, bringing their last kobo to church every Sunday, while their pastor (whose picture they have hung in their house as their only piece of decoration) will travel around in the latest cars and private jets. He doesnt give a flying f**k abt his followers except when it comes to tithes and donations.

All of you that defend ur fake MOGs always scream "Thou shall not judge! Lets leave the judging for God..... blah blah". But if i post a story of a 419ner on NL with private jets, those same idiots will judge him.

Abeg, i am halfway done with my little rant and i don tire. Lemme sleep jor.

MC Dumexx: If U̶̲̥̅̊ agree †̥hat @ the moment Christ rebuked Peter knowing that the devil is working in him as of †̥hat time; we are saying the same thing.

I hereby un-follow this thread

plappville: I believe is not Christlike to insult someone at the first place. And to insult an ordained pastor is even worse. When you say pastors, you are grouping both fake and true, putting dem in one basket. Didnt the bible made us know who is a true and a false Pastor? "by thier fruit you shall know them. You used a confirmed friend of God as an example (Moses) to some exploiters we have today.
Am sorry, you topic should talk about "Ordained Pastors".

Omen100: Fool, what about the likes of Paul the apostle, who only didn't insult the real Apostles & disciples of Jesus but also persecute & killed as many as can lied his hands on & at the end all his sins were 4given & washed away & he became brand new, he worked effortlessly for God without ascribe any glory or honour to himself & even when Apostle Peter the Founder of the Church messes up, Apostle Paul called him to order by telling Peter the ways & Manners things has to be done not these wanabas we have today that are parading themselves as men & women of God instead of his servants & that is, if they are anyone.

My distinguished & Exquisite Nairaland, I don't if anyone has taken note of what I am bring to the table, I through reading of the Bible, starting from Genesis through to Revelation, non of the ancient prophets(Noah, Moses & etc) Disciples of Jesus & Apostles were warden enough to refer to themselves as. Men of God, they called & see themselves as God's servants, even Jesus the son of Gos at some point called himself as a servant.

Since pastor prosper has showed his face maybe he can help Me out by telling me especially because I was the one that asked, who gave them audacity refer to themselves as men of God instead of his servants.

Pastor prosper over to you!

MC Dumexx: Like I said and still maintained. I am not here to argue with anybody. A rebuke is a rebuke. I wish 2 darw ur attention 2all the rebukes Christ has ever made even to Peter(when Peter was even praying that the Lord will not die) and draw my comments to ur conclusion 4rm there. Those I luv, I chastise.

Pastor Kun: This tithe issue is a major problem with the church today because it is a man made doctrine inspired by love for money which true men of God should avoid. Christian are not meant to tithe and there is no were in scriptures that instructs believers to tithe. The tithe doctrine as it is preached today was derived from twisting obsolete old testament scriptures addressed to jews(not christians) and using it to manipulate believers into paying them 10% of their income on a regular basis. No true pastor who knows the word of God would ever preach tithes as mandatory to believers. As per offerings believers are oblige to give as they purpose in their heart cheerfully.

MC Dumexx: I U̶̲̥̅̊nderstand perfectly well the place of most pastors as hypocrites, cheats and people who brand the gospel to enrich themselves. But ђã†̥ I don't understand is ђã†̥ happened †̥o U̶̲̥̅̊ for U̶̲̥̅̊ to make such embittered utterance about a non-existing god?
Well, I am not here †̥o argue with U̶̲̥̅̊ coz am sure U̶̲̥̅̊r facts are still oblique but I implore U̶̲̥̅̊ to try & forgive urself.

gzib: @Pastor Prosper, please inasmuch as i don't insult pastors, it will be wrong to lead them astray. the only sin that is unpardonable in the entire bible is the sin against the Holy spirit.Mark 3:29
Miriam, Moses elder sister was pardoned even after she became leprous. She was first Isolated for 7 days and the Israelite s did not move without her until she joined them again. Remember Moses plead to God for her and God answered Moses prayer. READ Numbers 12:1-14.
What i will advice people is you don't know who still have the grace of God, even when Miriam thought she too hear from God, God rebuked her for challenging Moses. Absalom went after David after God told David that He will be disgraced by his' own family publicly but what then happened to Absalom.
We just need to be careful. That is what i will say.

Pastor Kun: Are you truly a pastor since when did it become an unpardonable sin to criticise a pastor? Or are you comparing Moses with the charlatans that parade themselves as men of God today? Pastors are meant to live above board and make themselvs a good example, if they do otherwise they ought to be rebuked sharply as Apostle Paul instructed. The onus is on pastors to live right and preach the truth instead of being hypocrites then no one would criticise them.

candieangel12: What nonsense!!!

Lord Babs: and who told u he didn't go to heaven(assuming there was one)?

Logicboy03: Jesus tells us about the good samaritan and heaven

Behold, a certain lawyer stood up and tested him, saying, "Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?"

He said to him, "What is written in the law? How do you read it?"

He answered, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind [Deuteronomy 6:5]; and your neighbour as yourself [Leviticus 19:18]."

He said to him, "You have answered correctly. Do this, and you will live."

But he, desiring to justify himself, asked Jesus, "Who is my neighbour?"

— Luke 10:25–29, World English Bible



Jesus replies with a story:
Jesus answered, "A certain man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and he fell among robbers, who both stripped him and beat him, and departed, leaving him half dead. By chance a certain priest was going down that way. When he saw him, he passed by on the other side. In the same way a Levite also, when he came to the place, and saw him, passed by on the other side. But a certain Samaritan, as he travelled, came where he was. When he saw him, he was moved with compassion, came to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. He set him on his own animal, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him. On the next day, when he departed, he took out two denarii, and gave them to the host, and said to him, 'Take care of him. Whatever you spend beyond that, I will repay you when I return.' Now which of these three do you think seemed to be a neighbour to him who fell among the robbers?"

He said, "He who showed mercy on him."

Then Jesus said to him, "Go and do."

— Luke 10:30–37, World English Bible

candieangel12: I'll divorce my husband sharpily if he cheats on me with a man or woman, if he sleeps/abuses with our children, and if he beats me. Other than that, I can try to work out the other problems through counselling.

Siga: ...Na lie....I have seem cases of people courting over 10yrs and 2yrs into the marriage they divorced....that one no mean....even people date for a month marry and dem still dey together for yrs....guys don talk true...na TOLERANCE we all need!!!!

mr jangola: 18yrs of courtship haba, use ya head