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NaijaCelebrity:
Spectator Index has published a World Health Organization (WHO) study which ranked suicides per 100,000 cases. According to the report, Nigeria has 15 percent per 100,000, ranking as the 5th highest rate of suicide in the world

How can this be curbed?

http://www.ngg.ng/2018/08/02/nigeria-ranks-the-5th-highest-rate-of-suicide-in-the-world/

15% out of every 100,000 cases?

My understanding of statistics might not be too good but are we saying out of every 1000 suicide cases in the world, 150 are Nigerians?

Something must be amiss.

Metuh:
New Generational Criminals you meant?
Those working for Buhari?

This same Fela Durotoye, Sowore, Tolu Ogunlesi, Kayode Ogundamisi, Debola Lagos e.t.c sold their conscience in exchange for paltry sum of money so as to foster an Eighty year old Fossil on us.

North are not the problems of this country but our brothers from the Nbgati Nbgati side.

Angry jonathanian spotted!

Anyone who did not warm up to or support Jonathan's 2015 misadventure is a sworn enemy for life. By their words ye shall know them.

yesloaded:
Read up my post again but this time gently, I have all what it takes to leave my fathers house even at age of 18yrs but I never left not because o any other thing. Am not talking as a boy or giving rubbish advise but my advise was based on his reasons which is keeping friends, late night outings and inability to bring in girls. His parent can't tell him not to have girlfriend at at 26years in fact a 25years old man who's capable of providing for his family should go and get married. No responsible parent will allow his child bringing in all sorts of women home anyhow and no responsible parent will encourage their child to keep late night outings like partying, clubbing and all sorts. if its due to work or other reasons, he can leave but based on his aforementioned reasons then he's not on the right path

As at 24 when I left my father's house, my parents wouldn't have stopped me from bringing a girlfriend to the house; but out of respect for my parents, I didn't do it cos 2 captains cannot be in one ship. And just FYI, desiring to be able to receive a female visitor doesn't automatically mean "wanting to bring all sorts of girls home." We shouldn't be quick to conclude and judge people.

Again at 24 , my friends were mainly bank workers who closed quite late and the only times we could hangout or sit for a drink was from 7pm. First of all, sitting out with my friends till 9 or 10 or even 12pm doesn't make me an irresponsible person, and neither does hanging out with friends in a club overnight once in a while also automatically make me an irresponsible person. At the time, I may have loved to hangout very often, but I knew my parents were naturally not comfortable with it (parents will always be parents), so for that reason, I always limited the number of my sit outs to say, once per week. I also always had to disappoint my friends by being the first to bail out to get home by 9 or before 10; and this was out of respect for my parents.

At that time in my life, it was only natural for me to desire to be on my own so as to have a bit more freedom and also to stop stressing my dear parents. Now reading through the Op's story, I don't see how I'm different from him and I obviously don't see how wanting to be able to be out till 10pm once in a while or receiving a female guest makes me an irresponsible person.

yesloaded:
I understand what freedom means but his own definition of freedom is completely out of it.

justtoodark:
carrying girls upandan is a bad idea...choose wan you like most and marry her immediatly....
young marriage is the best.....

Truth be told, when a man says he wants freedom from the overbearing eyes of his parents, the reason the Op gave is usually the driving factor over 90% of the time. How can a man who is 26 years old, done with education and NYSC, has already stepped into the age when he should be thinking of marriage, but yet cannot receive female visitors or at least hangout with his friends in peace without being bombarded with calls from 'mummy' asking him to come home?...

Freedom, peace and privacy are basic needs of man and when a man attains a certain age, he should be permitted to desire these things without being judged hypocritically. It doesn't necessarily make a man irresponsible if he seeks these things at his current age, for crying out loud, he's never lived alone in his life and you expect such an immature person to jump straight from this current phase into marriage? Disaster awaits!

For those concluding he wants to go and carry girls upandan (@justtoodark), the fact is that a man needs some level of freedom and privacy to be able to peacefully meet, date, get to know, engage and marry a woman; all this cannot happen seamlessly when he's under his father's roof and inside his mother's pot. At 26 and already working, it is an anomaly for him to still live under his father's roof, and it is even a bigger anomaly for anyone to think there's anything wrong in him desiring some space to 'be a man.'

yesloaded:
so because his parent never allowed him to keep late night out is bad right? how old are you biko?

I'm a man, and I know what it means to have some freedom, space and privacy. There's a difference between a man who's already over 25 and working and a teenager.

yesloaded:
Your reasons is not enough bro, I still stay inside my father house even when I already made my first million naira. I remain in single room in my father house, I pay more than 30k to staffs I employed in my own office and to make matter worse, my Dada house to my office is 700 to 800naira transport fee everyday while I can get myself decent self contain or 2bedroom flat at 100k to 120k very close to my office without any transport fare. You should focus on how to develop yourself other than keeping late night outings, partying or carrying girls up and down. Work hard, make money and very other things shall fall in place bro.
Good luck

Someone who's 26, but you're still giving him the advice of a teenager?... He should stay in his fathers house as a 26 year old man?... Even his father would be irritated by his presence. And yes, living out of the home and receiving 1, 2 or 100 female visitors, that's a basic requirement/phase in a man's life before he gets married, it doesnt necessarily make him irresponsible. He s8mply desirrs to be a man before crossing to the next stage in his life which is marriage.

pocohantas:
Nothing wrong with seeking to move out of your parents house, but you want to do it for all the wrong reasons.



So, your definition of worse is that you can't receive female visitors?
Na with your 30k you wan use stay with woman PRIVATELY?

I disagree with the bolded; what exactly is wrong about his reasons?... and what could possibly pass as a 'right reason'?

Truth is that the reasons he gave (i.e. freedom and privacy) is the reason 95% of guys (who still live in the same city with their parents) moved out of their family houses. There's absolutely nothing wrong with a 26 year old guy man desiring to have freedom and privacy.

Irrespective of his current income, this is the time in his life when he needs to start learning to live alone and also a time he needs to start sampling and learning how to receive or be with women; he's already walked into the marriage realm and he shouldnt really wait till he got 300k before he starts learning to be with women.

ignant:
You don't understand what is going on here, do you? The OP or whoever commissioned that chart, designed those graphs, with the OPEC logo, and passed it as a primary document from OPEC. That is false representation, and it casts a doubt on the data on those charts.

I searched all over the internet for similar summary on the report which was released last month, nothing else shows except the blog the OP posted.

Have you examined the report you linked? [s]If not, then it means you agree with it because it confirms your bias. That is illogical[/s].

Huh? Seriously?

Figures are provided by OPEC, is it now the duty of OPEC to tell you what to do with the figures they publish? The figures used by whoever it is that created those fancy infographic charts (to drive home whatever point they wish to highlight) was gotten from an official OPEC source and that is all that matters. Official OPEC weblinks to where you can source those figures have been provided to you; the only meaningful argument here should be whether the figures are right or wrong, and it is left to you to go to the links provided to prove or disprove. But here you are, wondering why you can't find the analytic charts pertaining to Nigeria in the OPEC website too?... Did the OP or the creator of those graphs tell you at any point that it was OPEC that created the graphs? WHat exactly is "false representation" about using figures obtained from a publicly accessible source to develop simplified charts?

Like seriously Oga, have you ever been involved in any research work before (in school or work, anywhere)?... You are given data but you are here wondering why you aren't also spoon-fed with an analysis of the data?... And then someone somewhere analyses the data and produces political infographs but here you are, claiming it is FALSE or UNFAIR or ILLOGICAL because you couldn't find the infographs (created by a Nigerian like yourself) in the OPEC website?... Keep searching for Babangida and co's pictures in the OPEC site; you will find it one day.

clefstone:
Seun, Lalasticlala, mynd44.
This is fake news and should not be made to be on FP. OPEC will never produce a report based on politics. The APC propaganda machine that was used to install this wicked regime has been oiled and reactivated

clefstone:
...What has OPEC got to do with who ruled Nigeria and what he earned. If the breakdown were to be a yearly one from 1990-date that would HV been understandable but to break Ot down based on people in power is totally political and I know an organization as OPEC won't do that...

boostdom:
It is a testament to how poorly informed some NLers are and how vulnerable they will be to a government that has, by commission or overtly, elevated alternative facts to a tool of goverance.

If you have any faith in your critical thinking, you would not only confirm information from the primary source but also consider the dialectics.

OPEC as an organisation does not involve itself nor make publications on political landscapes in any country. The Gulf wars provide historical precedence.

Be guided accordingly.

See the 2018 bulletin here https://www.opec.org/opec_web/en/press_room/5027.htm

ignant:
I downloaded the data from the link you posted but I didn't see the charts posted by the OP there.

Can you tell what page they appear?

Since this is fake news, you guys can kindly provide the real figures. OPEC would typically provide only figures per year or monthly, but then it takes an interested Nigerian to breakdown the figures into different political regimes.. Like seriously, shouldn't that be obvious to you guys?.

@ignant
Do you expect to be given food and also helped to chew and swallow the food?... The OPEC website gives you figures per year, and you're asking why the charts aren't in the OPEC website too?

seXytOhbAd:
Fake news. Fake facts from a fake blog. Not verifiable.
APC government has received over $125billion dollars.

Give us statistics from OPEC website links or a well known source. Nairalanders are tired of fake news from fake blogs.

https://asb.opec.org/index.php/data-download

But this has never been a secret? This info has always been in the public domain so why should this old news be surprising to anyone today?... And by the way, the APC government did not release the figures, OPEC did. So why exactly should anyone be angry or 'BLAME' APC for figures released by OPEC?

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Apostle will hear of this...

Butterflyle0:
My brother I have not seen a party playing very divisive and hateful religiously and ethnically bigoted politics like PDP blood suckers party.

Yet in their party they still have northerners and southerners and Muslims and Christians in it and they all laugh and eat together yet they are pushing Nigerians to hatred of each other all because want votes from certain regions.

PDP is brutally wicked and Satanic

To be honest and fair with PDP, this has absolutely nothing to do with PDP, it's just an FFK thing. FFK is just doing what he knows how to do best, ethnic divisive politics.

Dayumm!

Zendinho:
Based on my own opinion, i think they don't force people to pay, rather they only used persuasive, appealing, coded, manipulative, religiously captivating and heavenly inspiring words or terminologies in getting monies from their members...

So it's left for the member to technically unravel their tricks or fall for them.
If you know you know.

In the surface, it's not really seen as 'forcing', but when someone you hold in high esteem, revere and even fear, psychologically blackmails you with religious and eternal damnation threats in order for you to part with your money, it is only in Africa that such acts are not viewed as 'Force'.

There's a lot of psychological manipulation in play to coerce people to give, but under the African definition, that doesnt really fall under the category of 'force'

karlboss:
The name of the private company building a refinery in Lagos is dangote refinery

What is the name of the private company building refinery in the north?

karlboss:
Please someone should answer my question what is the name of the private company building refinery in Kastina.

All of you that said it is a private project, the company no get name. I have checked google nothing there.

Shame on APC members and people baselessly supporting buhari by lying to score cheap political point

@obailala please answer my question

If the report said the govt was building a refinery, your type would have called it 'lies and propaganda'. But now the report says it's a private refinery, but you still just found a reason to still call it a lie to suit a particular anti-anything government narrative.

The truth is that, it certainly would be a futile venture attempting to engage you in an argument; so I'm sorry bro, I wouldn't really want to be indulging you. But I'm sure someone else here will help you with your answers since you choose not to put google to use (but rather blatantly lie that you've checked google).

On a second thought...
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/277689-katsina-refinery-ready-in-2021-minister.html

Iziquiel:
Bro, I'm tired of these guys, I don't even have the energy to type anymore. I'm just here to read their comments.

I swear its really sickening the way our people think. Sometimes one wants to just ignore the comments, but when you remember that these are the sort of mentalities that saturate our society, it just becomes too difficult to totally ignore.

nnachukz:
Whatever is wrong with fixing the ones we already have makes everything wrong when they begin to move crude from Niger Delta to run this one.
Leave black man from your dubious explanation.

I and several people already mentioned to you that the refinery is 100% privately owned, but you still keep returning with this?

Okay I'm sorry Ndu, I didn't know I was exchanging words with an educated illiterate who knows not how to read. Or maybe he actually knows how to read but just chooses to feign ignorance of the meaning of the word 'private' in a bid to have an endless 'we' vs 'them' argument. I no get power for internet trolls abeg. Bye!

StudentsNG:
Tell the Delta and Ajaokuta steel story to people who know nothing about state of things around those facilities. You want to ‘connect’ dead historical facilities that never operated while Trucks keep deforming our road networks to move imported goods from Lagos to major cities around the country.

You want to connect Delta and Ajaokuta when trucks spend days to move food, cattle and grains from North to other parts of the country through bad roads. A living brain would connect Lagos-Extreme North, North -East and West-East; each route trailing the middle belt.

I don’t blame you, I blame those you work for.

Once again you've just showcased the shallowness of your thought process by concluding in your head that "for me to say the rail was built to connect 2 steel plants, then I must be working for someone or I may be trying to defend someone." You really think everyone you meet online is always into your shallow apc vs pdp nonsense arguments?... Even when the matter has to do with Nigeria's physical development?

I'd only say this once again just for the sake of others reading this who may not be aware of the history of this rail and who might just be in this thread to genuinely seek information; the idea behind the Ajaokuta-Aladja railway which was conceived, built and abandoned decades ago was to connect the 2 steel cities and move raw material. You claim Ajaokuta is dead and that is true, but having this rail being functional happens to be one of the pre-requisites to yank Ajaokuta Steel to life. Of course I wouldn't expect you to understand this simple logic, in your mind, you have a monopoly of wisdom and everyone else who thinks differently from your myopic reasoning circle must be a dead brain. Once again, you just exposed your mental status.

klas:
You should have guessed the level of education of most people you are responding to.

Definitely, they don’t even know that the Kaduna refinery they are complaining about does not use Nigerian oil because our oil is light crude and Kaduna refinery processes heavy crude from Arab countries and Venezuela so as to get other derivatives that light crude won’t give. Warri port is just serving as receiving point for the imported crude to be piped to Kaduna.

Wow! I didnt even know this myself.

nnachukz:
I don't trust this government, the story of buying from Niger could be a smokescreen. Once it is completed, you will see them change from buying from Niger to moving it from Niger Delta.

And the big question is, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT?....

What is really wrong with the black man?... Why does the black man hate himself so much even to the level of hurting himself to spite his neighbour?.....

Nigeria currently sells over 98% of it's crude to foreigners with no one batting an eyelid. Today we have Dangote building a refinery in Lagos and another private businessman now planning to build a refinery in Katsina; but what do we get?... Nigerian youths already feeling heartaches and body pains and carrying placards saying "Nigerian businessmen shouldnt be allowed to BUY niger delta oil,"?... We should rather keep selling the oil to foreigners and folks like you Nnachukz will be more pleased that way?... And you do not think there's anything inherently wrong with your bare faced bad belle /obi-onugbu mentality? Tufiakwa...

You know the reason i worry about your mentality?... Its cos there are very many people sharing the same views as you and 95% of them are Igbos. What exactly has Buhari done to the mindset of most Igbo youths?

emmasege:
Supported. Niger Deltans would be the most foolish on Earth if they allowed oil from their region to be siphoned up north.

What's wrong with this Buhari sef?

What exactly is this mentality about thinking oil is being siphoned up north?... Are we even sure our education still means anything in Nigeria?... 99% of Nigeria's oil is being 'siphoned' to foreign nations everyday since the past over 60 years in the form of oil sales and not a single complain from any of these folks. Now, a private individual chooses to build a refinery in Katsina and the typical black man mentality says oil from Niger delta should never be sold to the private guy in katsina, we should rather keep selling it to foreigners only. Same nasty reasoning has been expressed repeatedly for Dangote refinery in Lagos, "we can never allow ND oil to be sold to Dangote refinery". Like seriously, what drives this sort of disgusting mentality amongst Africans?

nnachukz:
Buhari will use his urine as crude oil for the refinery.
No crude from South South will flow up North for the Daura refinery.

nnachukz:
Story.
The wisest thing the daura man can do is to abandon the three already existing refineries for this one?

Like seriously, what is the problem with Nigerians with reading?

@Nnachukz, a honest answer please, have you bothered to read any of the reports about that Katsina refinery before proceeding with these comments or are you just commenting based on the titles of reports you see?... or could it be you have read and are aware of the details of the refinery but just speak out of hatred for Buhari?

Are you aware the refinery is 100% privately owned?... Due to the absence of pipelines to 'BUY' crude from the niger delta area, the private owners of the refinery are looking to source their crude from nearby oil fields in Niger as opposed to building pipelines from southern Nigeria which would eventually be vandalised as usual.

What exactly does this have to do with Buhari and why exactly should this be a problem or source of heartache or worry to anyone?

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Ofodirinwa:
Connect 6 unproductive economically dead cities via trillium n Nair's rail project. Continue.

StudentsNG:
Don’t mind brain dead idi.ots.

@Ofodirinwa,
A railway connecting 2 steel cities is what you call dead?... Delta steel and ajaokuta steel both need this rail to return to life, and if both steel plants return to life , you really think Ajaokuta will be a dead city?... By the way I'd take it that your reference to Warri as a dead city was a 'slip of hand'.

Meanwhile, no words for the fellow below who just termed people brain dead for this; his words already speaks volumes of the status of his own brain.

richiepolymer:
That rail line has always been there. Nothing is wrong with that rail line. I don't understand what they really mean. Are they trying to maintain the rail line for use again? Or what? That line passing through agenebode has been there for years now....not been used.
So don't be deceived, they are not building a new rail line.

The rail line was built to over 90% completion almost 20 years ago and then abandoned to rot away with several parts vandalised over the years. It was intended to carry raw materials between 2 steel cities. But now it has been completed; the vandalised sections rebuilt and stations built along the way (so I hear) to make it also cater for passenger traffic.

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Kingsuo:
If I hear mention warri as unproductive thunder go fire your left TOTO, nor let boys vex

Bros take am easy

soflygerian:
Good to know that a man with a vision laid all this foundation. Good to see that the transformation agenda is still working. God bless GEJ.

This very project was built by OBJ up to 90% before it was abandoned to vandals and rot since around 1993. So what exactlt is this your post about?

erico2k2:
I never disputed that, my point is, whats new as this post is potraying?
fact is this is where he met it, nothing has been added,Tell you waht would had made a real difference, build a line from Wari via sapele,Oghara to Benin.The that would be this FG making a statement, even if they ne ver finished it at least start it. Im seriously waiting to see one infastructure this Rotimi guy will start. I began to fear this Rotimi when he said he never knew railway existed in PH when the railway line is less than 400 feet from his offis when he was governor.

Just bumped into this your post and I'm confused. Maybe I dont know the history of your discussion but what exactly do you mean by "infrastructure Rotimi will start"?

Why on earth do we still harbour this sort of mentality?... Rotimi so far seems to be the best performing minister in the cabinet delivering projects here and there but you have a problem with him not starting something?... What about 'finishing something'?

The Abuja kaduna line was built up to 90% completion by GEJ. Rotimi came it, picked it up and quickly got it completed, commisioned and operational. But you think that is nothing because he didnt start it?.... While we all agree it was GEJ's project, a fact is that the total counterpart fund paid by Nigeria for that project was about N60bn, and Amaechi's ministry provided up to about N16bn to complete the project before it wss commisioned. (Whilst I dont know if the 16bn was a part of the 60bn or if it was an additional amount, the fact is that that amount isnt insignificant and if it wasnt paid, the project wpuld have been another abandoned project.

Then we have the Warri-Ajaokuta line; it was built by OBj up to 80-90% up to 2 decades ago and abandoned. Of course since then, most of the tracks had been vandalised and no stations were built. Now again, Amsechi has stepped in, hustled for funds, completed the 2 decade old abandoned project, built stations, repaired the vandalised portions and is about to commision the line for passenger and freight use. But ince again, you think this is nonsense cos Amaechi didnt start the project?... I guess you would have been happy if Amaechi abandoned these multi billion naira project and started his own from scratch, that's the sort of thing that pleases Nigerians and surely the reason why Nigeria is the abandoned project capital of the world.

Meanwhile, lest I forget, Amaechi is currently hustling with the Chinese to get the Lagos-ibadan line completef this year. Please who started that line?

felines:
I used to work in Itakpe iron ore mining company. My dear man, this standard gauge line has been in existence for decades. It was built to convey iron ore from Itakpe near Okene to Aladja steel rolling mill. Shagarii built that line. BUHARI has nothing to do with it. It was never meant for mass transit. Since the steel industry is being neglected, they are now converting the USAGE to mass transit. Don't get it twisted.

OBJ actually built it from nothing to up to 90% completion sometime between 1999 and 2003 before it was abandoned. Since then, most of it was vandalised and damaged.

Sharpshooota:
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Which one is auto reverse .
That no refinery in the niger delta is working at optimum level but we hear of a new kastina state refinery next to the one in kaduna ...
How evil can an administration get

The katsina refinery is 100% privately owned. If not for bigotry and hate, you should have known that cos it was explained in every single report where the refinery was mentioned.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/7473269_screenshot201807270524582_jpegc59f885075e3b4ed9d26c7809f07003f
Is something wrong with my eyes?... Or is anyone else seeing a midget?

Lol.. Dino sef!