₦airaland Forum

Charleys:
Will a Muslim sponsor a Christian to Jerusalem?
Why not?

Charleys:
At the bolded, why would the "bishop" do that?

Heartbender:
So dining with sinners is tantamount to supporting their religious beliefs which may include, but not limited to, sponsoring their idolatrous journeys overseas? Who do you this thing?

DamZik:
Are you saying it is all who confess Jesus as their Saviour that will make Heaven?

Does that means whatever they do or don't do after they give their lives to Jesus doesn't matter? I also want to learn from you sir.

On the issue of calling altar call frequently, it is not only necessary but also important. It is only unnecessary if someone comes out twice or more and that will amount to ignorance (lack of knowledge). This is common to new converts. My friend use to do that when he was newly converted until I schooled him. Then, he could come out twice in a single service but he has outgrown that stage now. In my church, we have special studies for new converts.

I think the one that should be a source of concern is commercialising the grace and gift of God. That's evil and AntiChrist principle. However, there has never been and will never be a perfect system anywhere on earth until Jesus comes to take us home. A fact.

On the issue of Pastors, it seems like you had been decieved by a fake Pastor before. If you close your eyes so that 99 bad people could pass, you won't know when the one good person will also pass. Remember not the former things and move forward with God. God bless you.

DamZik:
Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

In the above scriptures, the people Jesus was talking about here are not unbelievers but believers, not even new converts but those who have grew spiritually to the level of performing miracles, signs and wonders in the name of Jesus but their gifts of prophecy, deliverance and all will not qualify them for Heaven because they are workers of iniquity. They have initial salvation because they Accept Jesus, Believe Jesus and Confess Jesus (ABC) but they don't have final salvation because they won't make it to heaven.

That is condemnation at a point of no repentance. That will not be my portion and your portion in Jesus name. What is the biblical meaning of iniquities? According to Webster's dictionary, the word iniquity means gross injustice, wickedness or sin. ... The Bible says that through one man, Adam, sin entered the world. The definition of an iniquity is a sin or wrong doing. An example of an iniquity is someone running into another person with their car on purpose. Denial of the sovereignty of God. Lack of righteousness or justice; wickedness.

DamZik:
You were on social media at 9:32a.m on Sunday. Hope you didn't go to church late. "Do not forsake the assembly of God's people." And "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy."

DamZik:
Do you know the concept of initial salvation and final salvation?

I like the fact that you do not want to accept everything thrown at you hook, line and sinker. I was like you too and that's what push me into acquiring knowledge in Bible School. My advice is that because you are inquisitive and independent in thinking, please seek for more knowledge. Knowledge is power.

DamZik:
Thanks for your understanding. The reason why Pastors keep calling alter calls is because of:
i. The church might have first timers who are not yet saved. This is common in big churches where Pastors don't know everybody.
ii. Some people are already in the church but are not yet saved. They are in Church but not in Christ. Even those who were born in mission houses may not know salvation due to over familiarity.
iii. It's possible for those who were already saved to deviate away from salvation because of worldly distractions so they will use the opportunity to reconnect and rededicate their lives back to God.

DamZik:
God's kingdom on Earth is for you to accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour so that you can escape eternal damnation. So that you can inherit eternal life with God.

DamZik:
I am sorry for the negative headline. It is because I know many people will not bother to open this thread if it was a POSITIVE headline. This message is for the generation of social media who have turned themselves Reactants and Reactors at the expense of their destiny.

It seems Nigerian youths has lost it. I can't imagine that people could go to Canaan Land, Ota or stay glue to listen to or watch Bishop Oyedepo just because they want to pick his words, twist it, then come to social media and make a mockery of this great and gentle man of God. These "lazy yoots" (according to Mr President), known as zombies and wailers derive joy in ridiculing great men of God but they fight to finish to defend world's most corrupt politicians.

We need to know in this country that Christianity in Nigeria is not our problem but our solution. Pastors are not our problem in Nigeria. The fantastically corrupt politicians who continue to plunder the wealth of our nation in guise of fighting oporruption are our real problem and unless we understand this, we will never know the solution. Enough is enough!

In conclusion, I want to enjoy Nigerian youths to shun folly and embrace wisdom. Instead of choosing to criticising pastors (who are many times greater than your generation) as your hobby, why not learn their secrets and enjoy Heaven on Earth like them? You don't need to be a preacher to enjoy what they are enjoying from God as everybody cannot become a preacher at once. A word is enough for the wise!

silento:
Am a Christian but some times some verses from the Bible when u read with brain contradict some other verse

The story of creation in Genesis made us understand that God created heaven and earth and every thing in it under 6 days

But this verse 2 Peter 3:8
Said that a thousand years is like a day to God and a day is like a thousand years

With this verse and normal working brain and a calculator does it mean that it took God 6000years to create heaven and earth ?

Nellyfrancis157:
The President of the Living Faith Church Worldwide, Bishop David Oyedepo, has said he stopped receiving salary from the Church many years ago, warning that the people saying men of god are stealing from the Church were at risk of God’s wrath.

Bishop Oyedepo, who preached at the “Encounter Night” at ongoing Shiloh 2020, said: “The blessings of the Lord maketh rich and add no sorrow with. There is a difference between the blessings of the Lord and the blessings of the effort of man.

“Those saying these people are stealing will just rain curse of the Lord on themselves. Prosperity is not on what you are given, but in what you give.”

Oyedepo preached on ‘Unveiling the Turnaround Wonders of the Altar of Sacrifice’, stating that his home is like a hotel.

“I have always had people living with me even when I was living in one room apartment.

“The last time I counted I had about 22 people working for me. I didn’t bring a dime into ministry. God is too big to be helped.

“Men are not the builders of Churches, God said he will build his church and the gates of hell will not prevail.

“I still sleep like a baby. I never asked God to enrich me, I only suçceeded in passing the test of sacrifice. Every child of God that works genuinely in the convenant have a great future.

“Many years ago, I told God if you ever bless me, I will build churches,” Oyedepo added.
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/12/those-saying-pastors-are-stealing-risk-gods-wrath-oyedepo/

Kobojunkiee:
Go back two comments ago to see where in Jesus Christ's own words, John, the author of the Gospel of John, tells you that.

Kobojunkiee:
As John the apostle tries to explain even there in Chapter 1 for you to understand, everyone who believes has the power to become sons of God, but the same John goes on to explain in later chapters that not everyone who believes will eventually become a son of God. This is the message explained in Chapter after Chapter of the Gospel of John to you and all those who will listen and hear the truth of Jesus Christ.

Each of the Gospels is meant to be read in its entirety, not in pieces with conclusions drawn from partial readings, so one can have a better grasp of the message intended by the writer.

Kobojunkiee:
However, not all of those who believe(are saved/have Salvation and are gifted with eternal life) will enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

LLMG:
Matthew 7 vs 21 - 23

LLMG:
Learn to comprehend first before reacting or responding. There are people who attend church regularly, the fact that they attend church regularly those not make them Christians if their way of life falls short of Jesus Christ standard.

MISSCONGENIALITY:
What ki d of fish is that? Do I Lok like Chinese you

LLMG:
The difference is that those who are not born again are not Christians but church goer's.

Faroqaoma:
Of course they're not. Being born into a christian family doesn't make you a a christian.

Being baptized as an infant into the 'christian Faith' too doesn't make you born again or christian either

MISSCONGENIALITY:
One asked when I gave my life to Christ. And I asked if I had to give my life to Christ when he's had it since is was conceived.
They believe that there are different levels of Christianity.
Christian
Born again Christian
True born again Christians.
For me you are either a Christian or not. If you like sleep in church and persform all sorts of miracles, if you are a Christian, you don't need to become born again.
Christ said it that on the last day so many will ay the healed and preached in his name. He will tell them depart from me you workers of iniquity.

ENGINEERG:
After life has been a misery. And no one has died and has come back to life to give us any true account of it.
In various religion, different beliefs about After-life.
Even in Christianity, believe of After life, from catholic, Jehovah witness, protestants, Adventist, Methodist are different.
But in all these various religious beliefs, only one or none will be correct, so is there anyone who knows , where the dead will be and what they are doing, until judgment day

Fash20:
A devoted muslim is one who believe in the Allah and follows the teaching of the Prophet (SAW) accordingly.

It is very easy to differentiate a devoted muslim from a muslim who is not devoted although, a sound knowledge of islam is need to understand this.

My point is, your analogy that the more a muslim becomes devoted, the more the tendency to become a terrorist is nothing but a fallacy of generalization.

Thank you