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Blyss: You Nigerians better be hoping and praying real hard right about now that they don't kill those kids, else your backward azz nation is gonna get flucked up real good. Well, at least the Northern part, that is. They're (French, England, US)are gonna bomb the shiat out of that place.

You are a 4ctard. Are we supposed to be scared by the mere ranting of some stray eeediot in foreign land, anuofia!
You think Nigerians like the fact that a sect from the country is causing havoc and making life hard for Nigeria and Nigerians? What a slowpoke!
In case you don't know, they kill their fellow country men in large numbers, be you hausa, Igbo, Yoruba, Kanuri anybody unfortunate enough to be their victims. These guyz are animals that have allegiance to nobody but their deluded beliefs. Infact, muslims have been victimized in their numbers by them.
Bokoharam is not just a Nigerian problem, its root causes lie in religion and awful mind programing techniques.
We should all hope and pray that these demons do not hurt any member of this innocent family whose only crime was being their victim.
Imagine little childrien having to go through this kind of ordeal, evil millitant demons pointing AK at them and threatening to murder them all. All we can do is hope for the best and wait for the appropriate security experts to rescue them. But if anything goes wrong, nothing will happen, yes, I say nothing will happen.

[quote author=kj_hova]It does seem to me that god(s) is/are restricted to current technologies. i.e. Moses trecked, Elijah & David rode in Chariots, Paul was ferried in ocean going ships while Oyedepo hip hops the planet in GS500 or GS650 PJs!

As humans do not have the capacity to imagine what eyes have never seen, the writers of the ancient books were trapped in the limitation of their senses.

What someone referred to as "Anthropomorphism" in earlier posts simply mean ascribing your limitations to an unlimited being. Perhaps, there are no unlimited entities in the spectrum. The more we understand natures laws, the less regard we would have for the gods.[/quote]What many people don't understand is that even God has a killer, and guess who the killer is: Mr knowledge. Once one realizes that the whole God thing is a sham, man's creation to control en mass, God will die a natural death in the light of such revelation. That is why religion is so afraid of any knowledge that will seek to ask rational questions about him or his claim to such irrational qualities that humans ascribe to him. God thrives in illiteracy, mysteries, secrecy, fear, threat and endless promises. In this case, the satan is science as it is the basis of every knowledge.

[quote author=kj_hova]There was this funny incident I remember:

My little nephew read about Elijah & the charriot of fire trip to heaven. The 14 years old asked me why god didn't pick Elijah with an aeroplane or a spaceship like in Ben 10?!?!? What do I tell this dude?[/quote]hahahahahahah. . . .tell him because God does not have a spaceship or a Private Gulf stream but his servants do. . .lol. . . Aint that a bitch

if this news is to be taken seriously, then the APC hawks have a lot to worry about as the group contains far more poltical heavy-weights that have both the reach and funds to win any election unlike the APC that is banking largely on ACN governors' influence and Tinubu's political manoeuvre.
PDP will always win as usual.

blaqoracle: SINCE I DISCOVERED THAT JESUS CHRIST IMPREGNATED MARY MAGDALENE, I STARTED HAVING A SECOND THOUGHT ABOUT CHRISTIANITY.

lol. . . Where did you hear that! Jesus Christ must be a bad a$$ coded guy, hiting on mary in the name of God. . .lol

ogugua88: [size=13pt]Iyanya should donate some muscle to Vector.[/size]

lol. . .hahahaha. . Seriously over muscle dey worry d guy. .at a point e com be like say the thin wan dwarf in arms....lol

dumb militant christians that feads on brain tumour. . . Just as psychopatic as yaweh and allah

dumb militant christians that feads on brain tumour

londoner: Well....If I am mistaken, then please accept my sincere apology for the mistake.

Its not easy to find someone who you want to spend the rest of your life with. You see, its not every woman that just wants to be married, just for the sake of joining the "wives club".

Love is by no means enough either.....

this is the realest thing I have seen a woman write. Love is by no means enough. So apt and very precise.
I understand your point jare, no offence taken.
I wish other ladies can be this real about what they want in their relationships.

Ortarico: You don't have any point and stop confusing yourself in the name of atheism. What do you understand by the English proverb that "Life is not a bed of roses"? So, you think man should wax in enjoyment for the rest of his life? Haba!. . . Go and read the book of Genesis on God's initial plan(s) for man were it not for his bad free choices.

Your question on stopping evil means that if God is to stop evil, then we must stop evil. This means that the murderer must be stopped along with the thief. Apply some sense pls!

Are you trying to be clever for your god or what? Abeg go discuss with your fellow below average i.q, you have obviously run out of reasonable argument and intelligence. Your assumptions and personal anecdote don't impress me, they seem like some redundant petty arguments from a child trying to look smarter than he realy is. Being uneccessarily verbose does not mean you are smart dear. Anyway, thanks for wasting my time.

Ortarico: I don't think you understand the concept of "Anthropomorphism". When you do, we shall proceed!

hahahahah. . .you obviously lack the intellectual depth and stamina to make your point. At this point, I will let you be, knowing how difficult it is for you to conjure up any smart argument without blabbing away about nonentities. It is so hard to defend Jesus, especially when you are debating with sob smarter than you.

Ortarico: As I said; "YES" man is partly responsible to account for suffering & evil in the world.

1. When I said @freewill means that God has given us freedom of choice. Having freedom means that we can rebel against God & make choices that are contrary to his desires. Since we can say that evil is anything contrary to God's perfect & holly will. Evil & suffering are the result of making bad free choices like in the case of Adam (Rom 5:12).
2. God uses suffering to discipline & instruction. The Bible tells us that God disciplines those whom he loves (Heb 12:6) & that no true child of God is without discipline & instruction: It's obvious that the results for our rebel against God bring suffering & it's also true that we can learn through our suffering that such rebellion is bad.
3. For warning: Evil & suffering in the world can serve as a warning against breaking God's law & then people can see the necessity of following God's truth. God's ways are right & good & following them leads to security & safety.
4. For the greater plan: Undoubtedly, God has a plan since God knows all things. He's not surprised by the presence of evil & sin in the world that brings about suffering. But if God knows all things from all eternity, then he's perfectly capable of using suffering as a greater plan. The best & simplest example of this is the suffering of Christ @ the hands of evil men. It is by Christ's suffering & death on the cross that we're able to be redeemed (Acts 4:27-28).

Have you now been enlightened?

So in essence, regardless whether you are born again or nothing, God's plan for you includes suffering, wickedness towards you just to keep you in check until you get to heaven where you will ultimately face another level of eternal suffering and enslavement being his music juke box. The more you blab about this your God, the more you give the picture of a psychopat that derives pleasure from hurting people who do not agree with his way. And you wonder why many people are turning atheists?

Ortarico: If I were God, I would certainly regret having made mankind. I mean look what idiots we are!

God regretting making man as it's termed as "Anthropomorphism"........for it's just like seeing a tender father injured & affronted by his son's folly, stubborness & rebellion angers him & makes him wish he had been childless!

It's actually true in Gen 6:6 that God "regrets." The passage caught my attention in the same way many years ago as it has yours now. I would say that your "guess" is quite correct.
Therefore, there is no reason to think that "regret" is an actual representation of God's view of things. If we understand it as a conscious anthroponomorphism (ascribing creaturely & human traits to God), we can realize that the Holy Spirit is allowing the human author a certain liberty to express divine realities in human terms & let it go @that. Understood? What other question(s)?

Like some body said, this is dumb! Can you please raise the bar of the discussion, you are getting lame with the useless explanations that do nothing to answer the main questions. Can you please stop with the diversionary explanations of what you think about God's regret, I am not asking for you to help me explain something that is very clear and direct as to what the bible says about God. My point is how do you reconcile a perfect being feeling regrets for his own actions, it is like me slamming my laptop on the floor knowing fully well that it would spoil only for me to start feeling regrets, does that not show some insanity or lack of control in me?
If you can't intelligently answer the question I will understand instead of insulting common sense with your verbose, pointless explanations that only serves to cause diversion from the issues raised. Who cares about what yoi will do if you were a God, wait until you become one, meanwhile, face the issue and stop the pointless blabbing.

Ortarico: I'll only reply your comment on item 1 cause time won't permit me for verbosity/much elaboration.

It seems you don't have any knowledge on the Biblical creation. You see, when God created, he created everything perfect & saw that "it was good."

God is all powerful & loving. Suffering can fall into three simple categories:
i. Emotional
ii. Mental &
iii. Physical suffering.
There are different explanation for why God allows suffering but none of them can satisfy everyone. Therefore, I will simply list various reasons offered to account for suffering & evil in the world.
A. Man's free will
B. For discipline
C. Prevention of further evil
D. For greater plan
E. For instruction
F. It is the result of sin
G. To serve as a warning.
Which of the above need I deliberate on to you?

Ultimately, you are trying to attribute every evil concievable to man even the ones that has nothing to do with man.
So you are saying natural disasters like the hurricane katrina, tsunami, earthquakes, volcanic erruptions, diseases are all caused by Man, realy?
Can you please explain how God uses destructive elements and evils as a means for instruction, discipline, greater plan and warning and yet he is a loving God with exceptional design powers.
You even unwittingly showed how the bible contradict its claims of a perfect world creation, because a skillful designer will envisage certain flaws that mind render his supposed perfect design imperfect and in effect make him look unskillful. If God was convinced of the perfectness of his creation, why then does he continue to destroy and rebuild the world. Thesame God continued to show regret and ambivalence about his creation yet he is perfect and all knowing.
In Genesis 6:6, it claims God basically regretted making man and that it grieved his heart. Don't you see the absurdity in an omniscienHe knew the future, therefore knew the outcome of "sin", and he is perfect, so assuming that he can be sad...why would he regret having make mankind in the first place? And who did he tell this story to? Ridiculous.

kutchs: Except something special has happened bw Jan 6th when I left home and now, I dont need to go back home.
Incase you dont understand what I mean above, am onye Imo nwa afo Mbaise.

Guy stop arguing like a kid. You are not the only one from Imo state. No matter how much you hate Rochas you can't claim he is not doing anything in Imo state. He is way better than Ohakim or Udenwa packed together. Forget all this childish emotions over APc AND oBI.

Joey82: its rather surprising that states with so much oil wealth and jumbo federal allocations are the ones borrowing most.
what is Bayelsa doing with all these monies with a small land mass, just eight local govts and a comparably smaller population.
looks to me like the northern states are less greedy.

as small Bayelsa is, the federal allocation to it is 12billion naira yet they are at the top of the borrower's list. What exactly is the government of Bayelsa doing with the state's fund.

litgirl22: Nigerian men are pi*sed that naija girls are happy for the couple, rather than b*tching and moaning about why Nigerian men are supposedly leaving them (which they aren't by a long shot).

Compare this to how Nigerian men whine over Nigerian girls with foreign men.

Insecure bunch. lol.

that is not true and you know it

londoner: @Rhymz...if I'm not mistaken, you have mentioned my relationship with a Ghanaian man a few times.





How long have you been married by the way?

You are mistaken my dear. I have never said anything about that until this thread, trust me.
Besides, I am yet to find that special woman. The ones wey dey want so much but have nothing serious to justify their demands.

Ortarico: Smh...now my conclusion is "Athiests are the most miserable people on Earth!"
Wouldn't you love for someone to simply show you the evidence for God's existence? No arm-twisting. No statements of, "You just have to believe." Well, here is a brief attempt to candidly offer some of the reasons which suggest that God exists. But first consider this. When it comes to the possibility of God's existence, the Bible says that there are people who have seen sufficient evidence, but they have suppressed the truth about God. On the other hand, for those who want to know God if he's there, he says, "You will seek me & find me, when you seek me with all your heart, I'll be found by you."

Does God exist? Here are six straight-forward reasons to believe that God is really there; Before you look @ the facts surrounding God's existence, ask yourself, if God does exist, would I want to know him? Consider.....
1. The complexity of our planet point to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today.
2. The universe had a start-what caused it?
3. The universe operates by uniform laws of nature, why does it?
4. The DNA code informs, programs a cell's behaviour!
5. We know God exists because he pursues us. He is constantly initiating & seeking for us to come to him.
6. Unlike any other revelation of God, Jesus Christ is the clearest, most specific picture of God revealing himself to us. Why Jesus?
Look throughout the major religions & you'll find out that Buddha, Muhammed, Confucius & Moses all identified themselves as teachers or prophets. None of them claimed to be equal to God!

Uhm. . . I will appreciate it if our argument goes beyond the "atheist vs Christian" cat fight, I would rather we use critical thought process and the evidence of history and archeaology to argue our stance.

Let me give my response to some of your arguments:
1. One of the reasons you claim alludes to the existence of a God is design.
There is a problem with such an argument because it ignores the existence of a flaw , evil in such a design. If truly this deity designer is all perfect, all knowing, all seeing and ultimately all powerful, how could he have designed a cosmos or Universe so flawed with evil, natural disasters, diseases, suffering and so on?
Does it mean he is not perfect, all-knowing or powerful to create a perfect design model devoid of all these evils?

2. You talked about the Universe having a start and the cause.
I would appreciate it if you clearly state what it is you are reffering to as "the Universe having a start". It does not present anything to debate about.

3. The Universe of course operates by "natural" Laws, laws that have come to be better understood by the empirical efforts of science and not mere beliefs.
Besides, the fact that science has understood these natural laws so well to the point it can function against it and get results shows the superiority of science over the creator of such laws and principles. This again points to the fact that the designer might not afterall be a perfect, all-knowing deity whose works can't be flawed or tampered with.

4. The DNA code only points to thesame argument I am making, the designer is not perfect as advances in genetics have shown these things can be altered to give an incredibly awsome result better and superior to the natural ones.

5. I don't know what you mean by "God pursues us", that is a very delusional assertion and does nothing to help your argument. Keep such a childish talk for sunday school pupils.

6. I find your claims here about Jesus very interesting even though such passionate claims can't be proven to be true, it will take a faithful christian to believe such a hogwash. But since I don't realy believe in the non-evident claims of faith, I say let us briefly examine your claims this time with the aids of critical thinking and common sense. The claims of Jesus being a God is very alien to the Jewish people from whom christians stole heavily to set up christianity. According to the God-spells, Jesus was crucified by the Romans yet there is no record of such having taken place in the whole of the Roman history books besides the one from the early church and the canonical gospels.
Thesame canonical accounts that continued to giving stunning contradiction of Jesus's life take for instance Jesus's last words:
JESUS' LAST WORDS ON THE CROSS
MAT 27:46-50
"And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."
LUK 23:46
"And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."
JOHN 19:30:
"When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."
He existed yet it is so difficult to accurately give account of his life.
More worrying is the fact that no historian of the time made mention of the man and his disciples despite the fact that he was recorded in the Bible as highly political figure whose notoriety for pissing off the priests caused him his life. Don't you find it worrying that it is so hard to picture who Jesus realy was outside of the God-spel fairy tales. Nobody even knows what he looks like, was he white, black, arab or a green extraterrestial from planet heaven, we don't even know that.

I don't even care if Diya was begging for his life, the fact is, he continued to lie about it. Who knows the other things he lied about. How did a kitten like that become a General?

Ortarico: I'm not surprised! You're full of enthusiasm for picking shreds from antagonistic books. It won't help you!

it is not about whether it is antagonistic or not, it is the substance of the evidence that is provided that matters.

[quote author=Rhino.5dm]Yeah, typical low low looking for a scapegoat as usual. Am I the starter of the thread? why can't you just channel your anger to your brothers displaying extreme stupidity?

For the last tine, STFU.[/quote]No you did not start the thread, a petty minded Yoruba tribalist like yourself started it, just so he can watch some ignorant self-hating petty-minded Igbo tribalists like you and him go at each other while self-righteous Yoruba pretenders like you gloats about how perfect Yoruba people are and all that crap. Thank God I know Yoruba people very well, with parochial internet tribal warriors like you and Eko ile, one would have thought that every Yoruba person is petty and tribalistic.

all4naija: No only that the Apocryphals are still not included in the Bible for reason they speak of the fairy tales as they are.

Exactly! Some group of church men assigned by the Emperor constantine were given the task to determine from a collection of many books floating around with different theological leanings and insane passed down stories about Jesus Christ, according to historians, some of the books even described Jesus's stories that were obviously a rude verbatim copy of known mythological god-men like zeus, osiris and co. Some did not even seehim as divine god son.
It is in the midst of all these fairytale the church fathers canonized some as divinely inspired even when their authors are not known and some as Apochryphal since their stories were in stark contrast of what they were looking for.

[quote author=kj_hova]Well the historicity of the gospel & epistular characters have not been convincingly verified, yes. However, the notoriety of the books & the christian faith convince me that a historical Jesus, Paul, Luke etc did live in Judea at 1 point. Even neutral archeologists attest to this fact.
My conviction is that whatever bogus faith based stories that was eventually associated with these characters differ by miles to the reality of their lives.
I believe that if I ever met the real Jesus or even Buddah or Confusius, my respect & estimation of them will be better than how their religionists have attempted to sell them.
These blokes were probably nothing more than great social reformers who, unfortunately, came way before their time. I wager that if Gandhi had come to India around 1000BC, we'd have had a religion named Gandhism today with Babuji Mahatma as the god therein.[/quote]You obviously have not taken time to study the biblical history and how it came about to be popular.
While the masses are led to believe that the Christian religion was founded by a historical wonderworker and his devoted eyewitnesses who accurately wrote down the events of his life and ministry in marvelous books that became “God’s Word,” the reality is that none of the gospels was written by its purported author. Also, the New Testament text did not exist in any writing prior to the beginning of the second century of the Common Era (“CE”), long after the purported events. Should it not be a cause
for concern that the books that contain the purpoted life of christ surfaced almost a century after his death and were mostly written by anonymous authors that were not bold enough to use their names until the church fathers fictitiously decided ascribe the names of the so-called disciples of christ who were mostly illiterate peasants and farmers that could barely string words together decently.
I suppose you are smart enough to know that it would take literate scribes to write these books in greek in the way they appear and are arranged. Such writing skills could not have been from mere illiterate farmers, tax collectoctors, fishermen and such low-lifes that allegedly flocked around him as disciples.
It is only in these books that we find
the story of christ, how anyone will take such claims seriously and on the spot dismiss any suggestion or evidence that points to its invalidity as a reliable source material to prove Christ's historicity is beyond me.

[quote author=Rhino.5dm]What da fucck is this fuccking goat yapping? Because I showed you how your leader was ready to sell off his people to lick the arsss of the northerners, a crime you ediots will want to associate with others does not warrant your senseless post.

By the way, what's my fuccking business with Ibadan? Oh, I guess you did expect me to descend low and start exhibiting superiority abnormality like the pack of retardedd goats arguing shamelessly on why Imo is better than Anambra bullshiit, or who is more ibo than other, right?

Sorry to disappoint you, we in the southwest sees ourselves as equal humans and we don't have any history of practising your outcast rubbish. so, while you are at it, you can as well tell us who is the original ibo and who is fake. Anything other than the arrogant display of supremacy complex is least expected of you.[/quote]I don't care what monkeys like you in the SW do, I also live there and have Yoruba friends and live with many of them, save yourself all that sorry as$ boastful nonsense about southwest people for somebody that is interested in your childish rant.
If every Yoruba person was as petty and eediotic like your ilks I for know wetin I go tell you this eeediota.
My point is stay away from inflaming the thread with your petty tribal banters and antics. . .

londoner: Aww Rhymz, how sweet....lol

Concerned about the ring finger of a complete stranger............WOW,what a big heart you have.....and all this time I thought you were just "touched", because I am choosing a non Nigerian man. Oh how wrong was I hey?

So all the many times (such as on this thread) that you just had to mention my relationship with a Ghanaian man, was out of concern for my ring.....aww how nice......lol

Anyhoo...back to topic.

hahahahaha. . .women, una can queshun the most innocent motives if una mind don dey made up. . .lol. . . Why do you think my concern is not genuine. . Lol . .nna eh. . .now I know why they say men are from Earth and women are from Jupita. . Lol. . I still would ve asked thesame queshun even if his name is Emeka, Bala or Akin. . Just looking out for my sisters, thats all. . .lol

daylae: Christianity has no business in proving anything about God, conforming to the premise of logic,because logic itself is handicap in such capacity. The concept of "seeing is believing" is out of place. That's why atheists have failed woefully in disproving the existence of God,all you are left with is the philosophy of doubt. The reason you earnestly find answers, and unrelenting.


You have no choice but to conclude the bible is a difficult book,and that's because of your ingenuity in reading it.


Your own understanding.

You sure know what you think you know. But it is not about your familiarity with its contents,but understanding it. And knowing the bible doesn't make one a christian. Even theologians wouldn't make such claim.

This is exactly where I always have problem with religion, christians and muslims alike.
It tend to view critical thinking and the empirical evidence of science and history as the characteristics of a bad christian or muslim. If anything, it helps you understand better your purpose in Life. Telling an intelligent person with an impulsive critical thought process to limit himself just so they can accommodate the unprovable teneths of a faith is pure brainwashing and mind-program. Adherent have to think in a pre-defined set of ethos to ascertain what constitute a universal truth. The moment any adherent refuses to be subjected to any predefined system of belief to ascertain the truth, he is seen as a heretic that has given in to satan.

Like seriously, what has such ways of limiting people's intellectual journey to the truth gained for the church? Revolts, people feeling used, regrets, shock and eternal suspicion of the church or religions motives for the restrictions in the first place.
Do you know how disappointed I felt the first time I came to the realization that afterall, I might not be a believing christian again with all these lies, outright fabrications, concealed truth, outright denial, pius forgeries and holy denial all in an effort to continue to control people and rival other religious sect.
It is even more appaling when you now realize that many of the clergy have come to the realization of this liebut are too kneel deep, making a living out of this lie, that it will seem self-destructive if they went out with all honesty and confess that, all they are doing is continue a life-long lie that has been made a truth at the expence of human lives and properties.
Learning the truth does not stop you from believing in anything if you are convinced but it gives you a peace of mind that you know the truth not as set out for you to see by religious fraudstar but by the proof of tangible and concrete facts that can not be easily refuted or dismissed.

[quote author=Rhino.5dm]Does stupidity comes to you naturally? or you are just ashame that Biafran leader was caught licking the arsss of Hausa/Fulani their masters, even when his so-called south south brother(GEJ) is contesting? Read below and cure your ignorance.



http://www.thenigerianvoice.com/nvnews/21981/1/ojukwu-pledges-support-of-igbos-for-ibb.html[/quote]Even if you like gloat all you want, it does not change the fact Ibadan can not boast of the investments in Onitsha. Onitsha with the huge volume of business and commerce is still neater, cleaner, finer, boast of sophisticated residential high rising buildings that Ibadan can only dream of. The last time I was in Ibadan, I could not believe my eyes, Adedibu and Tinubu are stealing your folks dry. Too ,any poor, delapidated buildings and people there. Besides Bodija estate, Ibadan is an excuse for a city. Just because nobody brings such issues to discuss does not mean we don't know.
Leave Igbo man make him fight as im want, them go settle, mind you 4cking business.

[quote author=Mr_Anony]Are you saying that God Himself brought sin into the world or that sin came as a result of man's actions?[/quote]Unless you are saying God is confused, and is not all knowing as is claimed, he should have known that the creation he is about to create and give free -will can not always do his bidding, so why the fuss and threat about throwing people into hell and making them suffer eternal damnation. Is he that bored and savege at thesame time.
From the argument, it appears the all powerful god can't even make the human spirit or soul(according to the christian afterlife concept) seize to exist unless of course he makes the suffer eternally in hell and turn the ones in heaven into some human music box and slaves. His power only shows where toture and enslavement reigns not where it matters. No wonder people are begining to see through his God farcade.

Ortarico: I don't blame you as it is said salvation is personal in respect to the event of the shewing of our LORD JESUS CHRIST to Saul (Paul) in the BIBLE. His followers were also privileged to experience the illumination yet chosed to reject.
You say we're brainwashed, thank you. For it's better to be like an infant than to engage in pseudo- science of this wicked & obstinate generation of the world than to curse the Almighty and omniscience GOD!

Unless you are a believer of Lukan fairy tale, the account given of Mr Paul's conversion is laughable and defiles common sense. Paul was in the company of other soldiers when he was struck by this light, right? He alone heard a loud quaking voice and he alone had the uncommon priviledge of seeing the Christ whose followers he was going to prosecute, right? Very laughable. On whose authority was Paul going to haunt Christians in Damascus that was never under the jurisdiction of Rome and the high priest? If anything, Damascus was like a safe heaven for christians facing serious persecution in Rome. So whose authority was driving the fanatical nutjob to Damascus?

Ortarico: I agree it was a hallucinatory experience, he heard his voice directly and in clarity (Act 9:4 &5) and submitted himself. Formerly he thought he was helping GOD as a religious fanatics and got converted. If you were him, you would have wanted him to show himself in person. Stiff hearted generation, you're just like your ancestors (Acts 7:51)!

who is giving this account in Act? Mr Paul himself or Luke the admirer of Paul.

ooman: Paul's vision was an hallucinatory experience, no spiritual implications

Like seriously, you of all people believes that there actually existed a Paul that was a Jesus fellow Hunter until he him self was converted by Jesus. You believe that crap? Like seriously you do believe such a confused person realy existed?
Unless you have not taken time to study the so-called Pauline epistles to realize those actually are works of some unknown religious writer with very evident hellenistic influence. If you observe, the epistles are in total contrast with the so-called Canonical Gospels, they discuss mostly pagan concepts and philosophies. Whence come the concept of a dying God whose death and ressurection brings atonement of sin to followers. These concepts exist way before christianity started. That is mostly what the so-called epistles discussed. It obvious the writer did not intend for such theology and concept be used for some christ Jesus as it is apparent the writer did not know who the christian Jesus is or was. It is highly probable that the epistles were originally books of some other religious order or the writer deliberately produced those epistles to rival the jewish religious order through stealing their concepts and infusing their own prevailing religious concept at the time. Paul is just a pabrication like the Jesus character, all unproveable mythological hogwash.