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jennykadry:
She cant even define marriage, what is she doing on this section then?

ayetty go to the forum games section

I replied wanting to say she's got a long way to go and reach destination "getting over yourself" but I want to give her the benefit of doubt and say that she knows what being selfless is all about, and this has nothing to do with gender issues or roles within a marrital set up, just an individual thing and for those who knows what being self content is all about.

Other than that I give up on her since she refuses to give us the answer to your question or she still going to read it up somewhere.

Ferminism CRAP! this statement is bodering on insult, but hey what's to be expected.

ayettymama:
what are u on abt?? loreal?? ok now im kunuffled  

im not a man--
i can tell u what pleases me in relationships- i cant tell u what pleases men- u shuld tell me
inno where your going, u think all men want a cook, a cleaner and someone to foot half the bills and pop u sum babies
to some men relationships delve a bit deeper than that-- i honestly cant spk for nl dudes
but a partner is meant to complement you and not serve u(not in that way anyways)
throw arnd all the english u like and hate of westernized virtues, sometimes im even glad, one needs to step out of the backwards circle to regain sanity sometimes!

SA lady

me and jenny go waay back ok b4 u start talkin u might wanna think abt that!

according to u im a power ranger- power rangers and neanderthals dont mix

we'll neva see eye to eye on this matter- hold your views, ill maintain mine!

Unfortunaltely you mention this on a site/blog that is open to all for comment on any post and response they wish to. They have facebook and others for the friendships and connections if that's what you seek on this post. Anyway all water off a ducks back, and can we start engaging like adults. You can start by answering the question which was asked "what kind of benefit a man would gain  by being married to you". You mention that marriage is not a transactional set up. I'll take that to a certain degree obviously with a pinch of salt. However, One day you will learn that every relationship is about give and take and that it is when you give more and expect less that you will receive more.

The sad reality about it is that you have to give first in order to receive. I suppose the question needs to be refrased and maybe just maybe we might get an answer out of you "What kind of a woman/wife do you plan to be when you get married or maybe you are married please educate us on what is suppose/can work instead of being militant about ferminism.

ayettymama:
jenny speaks and all i see is blah blah--- cos i dont share your backwards views im a child?? hold that thot

saga- i dont look at it that way im sorry

i wont be able to write a list in what ayettymama has to offer

i dont run a russian bride providing or escort service

call it westernized whatever u like- if posters fiance wanted a typical ogbona cooking african woman he should have married one!

Ofcourse you are a child its written all over your responses, its in the retorhic words you chose. Please say something worthwhile with substance galore then people will engage with you better. @Jennykadri asked you a question hoping to engage with you better and perhaps understand you better even, but to no avail. You've even managed to turn this topic to be about you when the original poster intended otherwise. @SEUN or MODERATOR is there a teen section on this blog somebody needs to move over immediately

Sagamite:
^^^^You still haven't given me an indication of what kind of benefit a man would have by being with you.

I am also curious I cant wait to read the reply to this question

ayettymama:
power ranger mentality?? interesting, something to teach the neanderthals!


if i roll my eyes once more theyll probably roll out of my forehead!!

repectful and tolerant??

whats that supposed to mean??

she should quit her job travel down to the innermost villages of nigeria and spend 2 yrs to learn how to cook all nigerian delicacies??

so when her husbands sista is getting married shell cater the wedding and when inlaws come she can prepare a buffet??

and when she don learn to cook finish- the husbands family will definitely find something else wrong, and shell take a break once again from cooking to travel down to the mountains of nigeria and learn to do that too?? pls

men and women alike get soo hypocritical on this site its annoying

abeg the madam kitchens wiv thier 5 children and wot nots, how much of a career can they really have?? when u sit at home all day and wait for master to come home drop breifcase so u can help him undo his tie- why wont u advise her to quit her job and serve her husbands family?

I swear this story must be coming out of the pages/scenes of one of the nigerian movies. I read a lot of drama in you post far removed from the poster's story it happens when an imagination runs wild. My advice is why dont you write/produce films you could be wasting your talent and time on this thread. Please read posters initial post it will help to get you back on track.

havent you got something positive to bring to this discussion especially to the poster which I believe is the reason why she started the thread? Again please refrain from quoting words that are out of context keep it constructive not streetswise.

ayettymama:
well you ladies are the ones married to backwards nigerian men

so you should no if the fact u cant cook for his family will end your marriage! kmt lolz

@post

if your husband is not backwards like the rest of these women

you wont have a problem!!
he wont be marryin u otherwise
like i said

u dont need to bend obva backwards to impress anybody

life is more than food and the body more than clothing!

Power Ranger mentality will make you fight with people that are even on your side you know, be careful. Somethings will always remain and I am refering to roles in a marital and setup.

@ Poster forget the power ranger mentality and concentrate on being a team with your man. Meet him halfway as I am sure that you will want him to do the same for you at some point or another. Yes you probably have the good qualities hence he's decided you are the woman to marry, howeverl in my opinion its the little things that matter, especially to men. Have you aver asked yourself why men are capable of leaving their prettiest and most talented wives to end up in bed with their maids/housekeepers? My dear that's not because they are stupid.

You still need to learn the quality of a home cooked meal and what it does for families. Food brings families together, husbands like to boast about that special dish their wives can hook up. When he comes home after a long day at work he wants to come home to your cooking, your laughter and not to mention you for desert, all of this is what says to  a man you are loved. That actually somebody takes their time to  fix them a special meal made of special ingredients, and guess what this meal is not for the masses, this meal is made just for him.

Try to add a bit of signature every little thing you do, please get personal with your shit its only graceful, these are the things that will remind him as to what sets you apart from the rest. You may make it as a couple you mignt not make it but getting personal is what will always stand out.

@Poster, what's with the attitude when you can just cook for your man whatever he wants, and start learning that which you cant cook, for goodness sake

promise

Analytical:
Ok. Let me add to what I have above.

What kind of jobs do you two have? It seems you don't get to see each other often since he runs a shift and your time contradicts? You have to create the time and make the times you have together really count. Give attention to yourselves.

What do you do when you are not together? Send text messages to him. Proclaim your love to him. Flirt with him and seduce him with your messages. Be creative. You mentioned 10 women sending messages to him. Outdo them with your own messages. He is your husband. Give him no room remaining in his inbox for other women!!

Text him about how much you miss him, what you are planning to do with him when you get home, how he will beg you for more etc. Where has love gone! My wife and kids travelled on holidays a while ago. You should see the kind of smses I sent! We were waiting to practically devour each other when we see. There is power in anticipation! Use it. Set it up. Prepare for him when he comes home.

What is he seeing in other women that he is not seeing in you? Update yourself. Set your strategy and win the war. Do what it takes. Go out of your way. If you have to slim down do it. If you have to change your schedule a bit, do it. Plan weekend time-offs together. It doesn't have to be whole day. Just get out of the routine once in a while.

Having said all these, let's focus on your husband for a while too. Is he happy with the job he has? Is he getting what his skills deserve? Is he making progress career-wise? All these can affect a man and make him react by releasing his frustrations on you. Not that it is right. Talk with him about his aspirations. He may need a change of job. Let him see you care about his progress after all.

Never use his family background to 'fight' him. Encourage him to get books for him that you know can build his confidence. Or buy them as gifts. His past shouldn't mortgage his future. Let him improve himself. Speak to his self-esteem. Let him know you accept him as he is.

Does he know you are treating STD? Let him know if he doesn't. Let him know the possible consequences of his extramarital affair- HIV, AIDS etc. He will see reasons when faced with grim consequences, hopefully.

What more can I say?

^^^You are the MAN.

zyl_kenny:
quote from SAlady
(I am not sure as to how is his
agonizing over the issues
suppose to help him. He needs
to learn to separate himself
from things that have nothing
to do with him. All the wife
didi here was to be open and
frank with her husband, and
all the husband was suppose
to do was to find ways to
work around the pastor
situation e.g. never to invite
pastor at his house, move
church etc.)

so y was it so difficult 4her 2tell him during d years'f courtship 4God's sake Many men r educated enough 2knw dat d past IS d past,bt i will not like it when i'm told AFTER marriage. Now hw're we sure der isnt a reason 4d said confession? If she couldnt tell him b4 marriage,y tell him now? I smell a rat, maybe d news was about 2get 2him and she quickly "confessed" 2him 1st. What about other secrets dat hold no threat 4nw, Will she "confess" them also?

@Zyl-Kenny lets get it straight here I am not out to defend the woman neither am I saying she is wrong. Many educated women and men know that they wouldnt want to spent their time of courtship listerning to their partners stories of past relationships and how wonderful the escapades were. NO please dont tell me that as your partner 'cos I really really dont care.

I dont care about them because I have a big challenge ahead of me and that's to build a succesful marriage, and in fact they can just go ahead and suck my big toe for all I care. What I also care about is the man you are when it comes to our relationship. Whats important is what goes on between the two of us.

Unless if I've been that girl bragging about this trophy husband I got for myself, and if that's the case and unfortunalety I end up with a husband that's been taking his pants down for everything that moves then I guess I deserve what I got in the end, sour grapes. I could go on and on, but then I understand your position that the wife should not have said anything since she never siad anything about it in the beginning.

What Mr poster needs to do here is to get a divorce and go find himself a virgin that will complete him, since he is so perfect and sees a perfect woman as an extension of himself.

Oh by the way you know all these peolpeyou are so worried about and what they'll think of your wife they probably have their own lifes to think about yours is not so important to them,

chaircover:
Why is man so hypocritical and very good at removing other people’s specks.

All these people saying the man should kick his wife out, How many people honestly disclose 100% about their pasts?

It just so happened that the posters wife had an affair with a pastor who should have known better, but what difference is it from girls who have affairs with their fathers age mates, government officials, their lecturers and so on before they get married? I still think the girls parents should be informed so they look at him in a different light, especially if they have other daughters.

Now to the men, how many of you slept with your girlfriends knowing fully well that you had no intention of marrying her? I’m sure it must occur to you that some man like you is going to end up marrying these girls that you used and abused in your heyday just like you will marry one of them too.

My advise to the poster is to cut his losses, forgive his wife, ban the pastor from his home and his wife from his church and try and live in peace with his wife.

@Chaircover I coldnt have said it best, you are so spot on.

I would also advice the poster to shut this post and move on with his life as a sign of somebody that is willing to forgive and forget. I am not sure why he really wants to dwell on this issue. Does it make him feel better? I dont think so.

zyl_kenny:
Y are u ppl sounding lyk dis?? Y should d lady keep such info 4rm him?? He sounds lyk he has told her all abt himself hence d bitterness, As 4me,it aint easy 4any man(even tho u claim 2let d past be as some men are insinuating here) 2learn some secrets about your life partner AFTER marriage, I dont care d kinda man u claim 2b but it does leave a lump on a man's throat. I might 4give her(not 4d act,but 4not telling me) but it'd sure take some time.

I am not sure as to how is his agonizing over the issues suppose to help him. He needs to learn to separate himself from things that have nothing to do with him. All the wife didi here was to be open and frank with her husband, and all the husband was suppose to do was to find ways to work around the pastor situation e.g. never to invite pastor at his house, move church etc.

Let me be the devils advocate here, what if the wife has slept with one of the church members they intend to move to, then what? Are they going to move country?

haaaaahaaa! that's funny but true though, very true. I think I have developed thick skin myself ever since I joined the site. Its a good thing though.

I read this post yesterday and decided to move on to other posts maybe because I didnt know what to say. Moving along to other posts, I found one about a women whom her husband is sleeping with almost ten other women and has infected her with an STD, again the man is resentful of her success blah-blah-blah.

To be honest I still dont know what to say about these posts. All I know is that I was really affected by the pain that these women are going through. I started to wonder if I am a weak woman and a coward as I was thinking back about my past relationships and the decisions I took, those that I left when I realised that things were not in place or just not a relationship I should be in.

Or maybe, it was the love in me for the next person that said, if its true that I love this person and that I am honest and true to them, then I should love them enough to let you go and give them th eopportunity to be be with the person they are suppose to be with, because right now she is waiting for you and you are busy waisting your precious time and love on me when you could be giving it to somebody that will appreciate everything about you. Somebody who will treat you the way they want you to treat them in return.

These posts talked to me a lot and now am left with one question to answer am I really that weak. Poster I admire and respect your strength.

generalj1:
@MrPresident

you don't understand.

if i've known b4 hand, i won't mind.

but considering the fact that all our 5 yrs of courtship, i've lived to believe my wife has never been with a man after the abuse that happened when she was much younger (which could be true)

that due to her constant church church stuff, you considered her a good choice for spiritual partnership,

you have series of times you've seen her in the church with pastor and felt comfortable that your fiance is in good place/hand,


i can marry a love-peddler, if i've known b4 hand and am convinced that she has changed ,

Ok @Poster you must then divorce her maybe that will solve your problem, is that what you want to hear?

Hi Naira's I went throuhg a couple of posts yesterday that took me to all sorts of thoughts and emotions about the world I live in. When I went to bed I realised what a struggle it is to really make it through life. Some topics and posts that I felt were silly and some that I found so rediculous I've had to keep my opinion to myself, and ofcourse some really really educational and inspirational.

Isnt it amazing how we all could be living in the same world breath the same air and be ruled by one God and yet our lives be affected in so many different ways. Having joined this forum has allowed me to take good stock of my life, as to what happened in it and what didnt happen and what I would still like to do with my life.

It is through this forum that I've had to learn that my life is by far not anywhere close to where I want it to be. Since I joined the forum I have managed to plug the courage to fix every wrong thing that could be happening in my life from friendships, relationships and parental issues. I have decided to work very hard at my state of grace which seems to have diminished each day due to the people that we invite in our lives and the negative words that we take in, not to mention the worries that I have.

My biggest lesson was to love more only this time to learn to love with my head and not with my heart. My heart is my source of life and I need to protect it with everything in me. I've learned to let go of things that bring pain and suffering in my life and that my joy and peace is with God.

I've learned that people are inherently good and that there's a lot of them here on Nairaland. Nairalander's keep the positive vibes going there's a lot of good that some of us pick up here. You dont always have the right answeres to a lot of questions but you certainly make an impact with your responses, and my life becouse of your responses is under operation rebirth.

Please dont get me wrong I am not claiming perfection, I sometimes like the weak side of me it keeps me in check with my reality and ofcourse sometimes we need to go a little crazy just to survive just as long as we do not harm others in the process.

I give up

This is the third post today where a woman is agrieved by somebody who calls himself a man, the one who is suppose to love her, protect her and care for her. Today this woman writes to others her soul is troubled, she doesnt trust him, she is sick with STD and thereofore her life is compromised. God what kind of prayer are we suppose to pray both men and women in order to get this thing right. Just from reading all this it pains me and it makes me feel so vulnerable as a woman. What is it with this caveman behaviour even in this modern day of knowledge, information and awareness.

I dont know why men still insist on this behaviour as it has never worked for any one of them, it has never brought anything home and inactual fact it all ends up with regrets and men never advice each other about these things. I have once learned a great lesson "Rather suffer the pain of discipline than to suffer the pain of regret"

Maybe I shouldn't blame the human race and learn to acknowledge that maybe, just maybe the devil is here with us everyday and will not stop at nothing to make us miserable, hopeless and unfulfilled.

Lady please pray with all your might that the good Lord saves you and your marriage from the wrath of the devil

adeogunn:
Most Nigerian women do not know how to treat a good guy when they see one. When God blesses you with a good guy, you walk all over him, undermine, compare and downgrade him like he is trash even though he may treat you like a queen.

When you now meet a person that treats you like "poo" you become weak and submissive and choose to stay with that person, whereas the person that treats you like a queen you dump. I have seen this many times and it has frankly become hard for me to feel sincere sympathy for most nigerian women when they find themselves in circumstances where a guy treats them badly.

The question that comes to mind for me is "How did you treat the last person who treated you with love, dignity and respect". God is just and fair, and will not let a maltreatment that you have done to another person go unpunished.

My suggestion for all you ladies is to appreciate the good that God blesses you with, because you don't know when the next "KNUCKLEHEAD" will come and scoop you up dressed as your "knight in shining armor"

Poster please can you save the ladies your anger issues. Rather tell us your story, than to throw toys like this, then perhaps people will engage with you constructively

noetic16:
first u need to grow up and chart out a vision for your life. . . . . .be mentally independent and understand life is not virtually all about u having a car, making 100k and then manufacturing children. there is more to life that

^^^Agreed. @DanG please dont do it. You are still far from it. If you think it only takes a fat pay check and babies to build a successful marriage then you are wrong. Again it would seem you think getting married early is the only way to avoid infidelity you are, please think again. It seems to me you havent given thought to the kind of husband/Partner you want to become, the kind of father you want to be, who you are as an individual before you are somebody elses man/husband, How you want to share your spiritual being with those close to you and what you want to receive from others (helping each other to grow in spirit).

The world is a tough yet pleasant place to be and it doenst only take a career, paycheck, wife/husband or children to make it through. It takes resilience, viture and a sound spirit to sirvive.

Oh! GOD Men of earth. What do we do now with men like these? Do we still cling to the believe that marriage is still the answer no matter what. I am single and my life is complete and yes I can do with a husband for companionship. If I find a partner and he treats me like this then I am going to have to compare my life before marriage and after marrige and there is no way I will come up with answer that all is well in a marriage like this, especially when I know what being alone means.

"Things will get better someday". People have got to realise that tomorrow is not guaranteed. The only gurantee you have is this instant moment, you cant afford to waste it. Today is the best day I know and the best day I've got I shall therefore savour it. I will not be married to you today and wait to be loved by you ten years later. Time waits for no man. My happiness is today, here and now.

Your masculine resentments, anger, hostility please save it for another day maybe when I am dead because in my lifetime there's no room for it. I dont need it.

benincitys:
negative side is when their start looking for their biological parent

^^^ which always happens apparently. However, I believe that when that time comes you should help the child to find their biological parents, its their right to know and decide how they want to take things forward. Children do not belong to us they are of GOd and that's where they end up.

A colleague of mine once told me about her aunt who was a high flyer and delayed childbearing until it was too late. The aunt and husband ended up adopting children. When she died the husband could only ask one question "Oh! what am I going to do with all her children now?" which meant he never considered the children his since they were not biological. How sad, I guess that's the other downside, that the hubby could be resentful deep inside and yet not mention it to his wife.

Another downside close to me is of a friend of mine adopted by a white family. Her biological family is after her now that she is grown up and ofcourse living with a white family she must have money or have access to it. They are up to a lot of drama with this situation. When I say drama I mean literal drama, they even went to report a missing child on television programmes saying that their child has been kidnapped by a white woman, meanwhile there is no such. Her mother who literaly abondened her when she was two days old phoned her sometime and asked her to give her money so she can look after her other children.

Now in this situation as an adopting parent its hard because who have to deal with the drama of psychopathic behaviour and conduct of the biological parents, causing a spectacle in your peaceful life. The adopted child doesnt want anything to do with her biological mother and its her right too.

Ask me if I would adopt a child? YES!

CyberG:
AgathaMAD. . .or whatever accursed or pathetic name you bear. . .YOU MUST be specially adept at FOO.LISHNESS seeing the uselessness and insensitivity of your post! To start with, it is not what you say alone that matters, HOW you say it is VERY important! Now, before you or anyone think you are being DOWN-TO-EARTH, truth is you ARE really SILLY, UNCOUTH, LACKING IN HOME TRAINING and having NO SENSE or GOOD JUDGMENT! I don't care how old you are BUT can you even give any advice to YOUR OWN BLOOD this way (your kids, younger ones) and they won't tell you to go fuc.k yourself? In fact, you must be about 10 or less for your brain is so empty and my 5 year old niece is way smarter than you will ever be, even at 50!

Advice if you will but don't come here thumping your useless chest and smelly nose at everyone who don't give a smelling rat's backside about what you think! Obviously, you think people are here to hear your "god" opinion while you have no idea you will NEVER get any man to live in the same house with you for even 1 month until you grow old and DIE with this opprobrious attitude! Get a life big mouth and use your sense! If there was a way to naughty woman-slap your backside over the internet, you will be in the mortuary now gathering mould and dust! What an arrogant, hypocritical low-life scumbag!

God this is the world I live in? Men go out and cheat and all they get is a smack on the backhand, the understanding, sympathy and all the pretty words us women still have for them. Women, go out and cheat and see what happens, you will be showered with all the nustiest words that any dictionary care to define.
In my world there's no excuse for a cheating man, no nice words and no understanding especially where my life and health are compromised, not to mention my pride and dignity. Hell you might as well kill me with your two hands, than to do me like that its plain coward behaviour.

Agathamari I am with you on this one (girl you got carried away, easy now). There's is no excuse for a cheating man or women unless ofcourse if you are married to a monkey and you think its okay to sleep around on it.

Anybody who dares treat me like a monkey I'll get Agathamari to sort you out, straight up.

Please dont get me wrong, I am not saying you should leave your home. All I am saying is that you should find ways to fend for yourself and take care of the bare necessities, e.g personal hygine, clothes, entertainment, niceties for baby. I'll tell you what, they say the best way to get back at adversity is to kill it with kindness.
This would be your chance to treat your husband in a way that he has never treated you before, like buy him nice things when you start making that money it will eat at his conscience.

Try to make your home as pleasant as possible, when he's away invite family and friends for dinner/lunch and cook up a storm. Make sure that everytime hubby sees you you are always smiling and laughing a LOT. This will make him start asking himself why is he being such a mean person. If nothing changes then I rest my case.

woye77:
ladies and gents let's discuss

I am interested in knowing why you shouldnt in the first place

@Kimbaby, there's always two sides to a story. I say let the baby grow up until the baby is at the right stage to be left at a day care centre, then get yourself a job this will help you become financially independant, and free from a life of a beggar. Dont forget to pray nothing beats that,

snowdrops:
ABSOLUTELY YES. You are not that travelled then. People dont exactly mind origin of names provided it sounds well and has a nice meaning.
You are still trapped in the shackles of the colonial slave trade. [b]Free yourself. Not every thing is "colonial mentality" or a conspiracy.
Its only a name.

Spoken like a man/women who has no idea where they are coming from and clearly no idea where they are going. I say free yourself from the shackles of petronization. Why allow yourself to be petronized with such catchy statemets that lack depth. You owe nobody any apologies about what your history and identity is all about you must carry it and own it with pride no matter where you find yourself and whoever is in your company.

White afrikaaners here in SA are proud of their history (as dark as it is), their heritage and as for their language they will not trade it for anything. They make no excuses for it and nobody dares to questioning it. This has taught me that it is only when you attach meaning to who you are the things you do that you will not hide nor be swayed to be that which you are not. I admire their pride and patriotism.

@M Sijuade will admit, that she is proud of the identity that her father left her. Which I'd like to believe is what makes her want to know more of her origins and this is the identity that no one can ever separate her from. M Sijuade, may the love of God walk with you through out this journey and we hope you find your father well.

I am so proud of my name that everywhere I go I insist on people to say my name correct with the right pronounciation and never to chop it in order to suit their backgroud and accents.
Everytime I misspell an english word, or get the pronounciation wrong there's always a white person or even black person (which makes me laugh all the time) quick to correct me or make fun of me, meanwhile nobody cares about how the white person is going to butch my language and name and the rest of us black people we just sit back smile like silly Bonobo's, and say its ok we understand its not your language. 

Well in my books to hell with that you better say my name correct, it means that much to me as it does yours and your language. The person who gave it to me wasnt playing games. Stop messing and fooling with my african name, stop wishing it was easy to pronounce, stop wishing it was pleaseant to your ear. The person who gave it to me obviously didnt care much about you and your opinion when s/he named me.

"I am an African" and these words always sounds like a melody everitme I stop to mention them.

If it feels right go for it when the fun stops pray for answers time will tell all,

snowdrops:
Now that is so wrong. It is simply a matter of choice. There are some beautiful English names, if you dig out the meanings.

In addition, they are not all English. You have Italian, Latin, Greek, French, Japanese names etc etc[b][/b].

Again you omitted Naitive names in your listing above

I still think its a colonial mind to give children english/christian names. We all know that these names were given to our slave ancestors by whites who landed in africa and couldnt pronounce our naitive names. What are we still doing with those names anyway.

Then came the eradication of our languages. Hence you find black people speaking english among themselves and not to mention black children brought by black parents and cant speak their mother tongue can only speak english. Ever asked yourself why that is?

MRbrownJAY:
come on. . . . . . . . . . . .
married men cheat with single women and married women cheat with single men so why should it make a difference if they do it with married people since we already know they are cheating!
most of the people looking for sugar daddies/sugar mummies are doing so for the financial gain [b][/b]so let the sugar mummies/daddies remove the middle men/women and just go straight for the "jackpot"! (there will be no need for "financial aid" if they are dealing with married people like them)

emboldment: whats with this shameless prostitution? I hope someday women will wake up and realise that men actually need us more than they make us believe, and get to understand that there's no need for subjecting yourself to such,

Pampers:
Men might be in control of everything, but women have d power to control and manipulate men if they want to

Men can be just as controlling and manipulative

MrPrsdent:
women are cunningly more powerful.

Men can be just as cunning

Men and women we are just the same and I guess that is why we deserve each other,

Its time for recipe books and cooking classes. They can make a great hobby. See anything can be fixed

tpia.:
duh

Duh! indeed,