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Unzerious:Disclaimer: I am not a supporter of Obi or any of these people for that matter. But I am a realistic political analyst. I've made it clear to Obi's supporters that as far as this dispensation is concerned, Its impossible for Obi to become the president And I've made it known long before now that the only realistic chance Tinubu has of getting the presidency is if he goes for Muslim/Muslim And that Atiku ordinarily would have been the favourite but he is not a political strategist and this is where someone like Tinubu can hurt him This particular thread is for Peter Obi's supporters to see that (because many of them don't actually know this) apart from having simple majority, he also need to score above 25% in 24 states. Which 24 states will give him that is the question now. We learn everyday |
Sammy07:Yes, numbers determine but apart from him having majority of votes, the constitution states he must get above 25% in at least 24 states if not the election is inconclusive and must go to rerun. So the question is which 24 states can he truthfully get 25% from? We learn everyday |
Enyimbafc:Adamawa is totally impossible with Atiku's people still angry with him. Ekiti with Fayose joining forces is Tinubu is impossible Ondo, probable but not feasible with Akeredolu carrying Tinubu for head like anythng. We learn everyday |
Ruggedniggaone:You didn't read my write up? I didn't talk about him winning the presidency, I talked about the states that is possible for him to get up to 25% We learn everyday |
According to the constitution of FRN, the President of Nigeria will be elected using a modified two round system, to be elected in the first round, a candidate must receive a majority of the vote and over 25% of the vote in at least 24 of the 36 states. By simple analysis, which 24 states can Obi realistically score 25% from. I am sure of the following SW- Lagos and Oyo - 2 SS- All SS states - 6 SE- All SE states - 5 NS- All NS except Kwara and Niger - 5 NW- Maybe only Kaduna - 1 NE- Maybe only Taraba -1 TOTAL -20 Based on my personal analysis as it stands, PO would still need 4 more states. Where do you think I made mistake and if this is correct, which 4 more states can he push to get at least the 25% required by law aside the simple majority of votes cast. We learn everyday |
Subsidywise20:You will get your analysis wrong by muddling up the whole North. You need to break it down regions if you are not breaking it down into states. Which states in NE and NW will Atiku win? Tinubu has SW on lockdown whether by crook or by fair. You might be right about run off, I envisage that as well that we may have that for the first time in Nigeria's history but if there is anybody that would win this election without run it will be Tinubu, as I said might be ugly or even bloody but they will have their way |
seunmsg:You might be right, Appeal court would likely say status quo should remain pending the judgement. This may drag till election time which PDP would likely win. Appeal court or supreme court may uphold the High court judgement that he stays disqualified. Then APC candidate who would likely come second in the general election is declared winner based on the provisions of the law. We learn everyday |
IamWonderful:It's not a calabash that shows where to put rope on its neck, its actually a gourd. The Yoruba word for both sound alike hence many people mistake one for the other. English Yoruba Calabash Igba Gourd Agba "Igba" doesn't have neck while a "Agba' naturally has neck which brings about that proverb that its a gourd that will show you where on it to put rope. We learn everyday |
MartinsD12:1. as lost a touch with 2. Fairy We learn everyday |
MartinsD12:I like to engage only educated people who can engage in intellectual argument. We learn everyday |
PHOTSEE:many of the insurance companies in Nigeria are owned by Nigerians and many more would come up once the industry is now profitable. Majority of the banks in Nigeria are Nigerians' There are about 3 automobile industries presently owned by Nigerians and many more would join once patronage increases. |
PHOTSEE:Then we should be contented with the life we are living presently and stop envying and running to USA, Canada etc in search of a "better" life because that so called better life is what you call a 'mortgaged' life We learn everyday |
Golan007:Some people that talk here apart from the fact that they just want to support their candidates at all cost and want to see what the other candidates say as rubbish, many of them don't actually understand simple economics, i.e multiplier effect. They don't know the first industry that will experience an upward surge if credit and mortgage facilities are in place is the insurance industry that has so far gone comatose in Nigeria. Followed by sharp increase in SMEs, banking sector, Automobiles, housing, in fact everything. The America they are all running today is a credit society. More than 80% of Americans who own homes have them on mortgage and even many of them cannot finish paying the mortgage in their life time but that would not stop them from living a good life. Civil servants, business owners, even students. The best thing is to leave such people to keep wallowing in their ignorance. The question they should have asked is how is Tinubu going to achieve or implement this with the distraction of insecurity still out there. |
MartinsD12:Yeah, go and borrow and live a good life don't steal. That's the message. The America most Nigerians are running to today is basically on mortgage. Every middle class citizen you see there is on one mortgage or the other. The houses you see people living in is on mortgage and many people would not even finish paying it in their life time, but they would have ended up living a good life that most of you are envious of, and running down there to. We learn everyday |
aribisala0:Excellent submission. You would make a good lawyer sir. |
Ojuntana:I'm following you guys' conversation. You are both right in some areas and wrong in some areas. For clarification purpose on Lekki Free trade zone read this: The Lekki Free Zone Development Company (LFZDC) was established in May 2006 as a Joint Venture Partnership pursuant to the Nigeria Export Processing Zones Act ……. The Joint Venture comprises of a consortium of Chinese Companies by the name China-Africa Lekki Investment Ltd [CALIL] (formerly known as referred to as CCECC-Beyond International Investment & Development Co. Ltd) as the majority shareholder, the Lagos State Government [LASG] and Lekki Worldwide Investments Limited [LWIL]. LFZDC is authorised by both the Federal Government of Nigeria through the Nigeria Export Processing Zones Authority (NEPZA) and the Lagos State Government as the sole entity to develop, operate, administer and manage the South/West Quadrant of the Lekki Free Zone project Shareholders ratio of LFZDC CALI 60% LWIL 40% On Lekki Deep Seaport read this: Lekki Port LFTZ Enterprise Limited (LPLEL) is a joint venture enterprise owned by a group of investors led by the Lekki Port Investment Holdings Inc (comprising China Harbour Engineering Company Ltd. and Tolaram Group), the Lagos State Government and the Federal Government of Nigeria through the Nigerian Ports Authority (NPA) You are right about the NPA having the sole right to administer ports, but it can allow individuals to build and maintain while they oversea and control the activities which is what is being done here. You are wrong about FG being the owner of Lekki free trade zone. The federal government authorized the owners to build and administer that axis of the free trade zone (south west). Any other region can approach the FG for approval to do same in their regions and government will most likely grant the approval if the terms and conditions is okay by them (FG) We learn everyday |
treesun:And no Amoda on it too why? |
pleasureosondu:Let me try to respond based on the numbering: 1. That was supposed to be the normal thing for the two major political parties, President to come from South West (so as to placate the Yorubas because of June 12), VP automatically cannot come from the South again, so North. And Automatically Number 3 man should be from the East. 2. About Olu Falae, he had fine records as a technocrat and brilliant as well. For him to beat someone like Bola Ige to the AD presidential ticket will tell you how he was highly regarded. Though not a professional politician like the others. Obasanjo did not actually do any marketing, he was rather imposed on us by the Military who did not want any of the full time politicians to become president so as to protect themselves because they knew they are likely going to go on revenge mission for how they have brutalized the politicians, sent many of them to prison and others on exile. Nobody in Igboland knew anything good about Obasanjo other than he was president of Nigeria briefly before handing over to Sheu Shagari. He was just the choice of the power that be and the Igbos who were like 80% in PDP had no option but to toe the line. As per Tinubu right now I don't envy him, he is caught up between the devil and the deep blue sea. The only shot he has right now on winning this election is go get a very strong Northerner that can pull votes for him from Atiku and Kwankwaso and there is no Christian northerner presently that can pull such weight. As I said earlier he has South West locked down whether he brings a Christian or a Muslim. The "awa lokan" inside most Yorubas will make them vote for him (forget all the online noise you are hearing presently). If he brings the Pope himself to come and be his VP he can NEVER win South East, so there is no point trying to please them by bringing a christian. If he wins the election he can now try to bring them on board (right now his only goal is to win the election at all cost). For the muslim dominated north, there is nothing that will sell more for him than "Vote Alhaji Tinubu and Alhaji so so and so" Anything outside muslim/muslim for him means he already lost the race even before starting. 3. Believe me, I never see Yorubas and Igbos as enemies, you need to see them in day to day life. But the truth is that when it comes to Political matters they don't see eye to eye as a result of different factors, Could be the Yoruba way of life of rallying round "one of their own" as against Igbo's "every man for himself, all for God". Another major reason could be the "political enmity" that have been planted by the Ziks and Awos of then and being passed down to different generations. This is a fact except we are just trying to deceive ourselves. |
pleasureosondu:I could put the same to you that can you provide valid evidence/reason why Obasanjo was the choice of the Igbos? Because you made it look like they voted for a Yoruba who is a Yoruba candidate but I'm making you to realize you didn't vote for him because he's Yoruba but you voted for him because he was PDP candidate and he was NOT the choice of Yoruba. But to answer your question in case you don't know, Olu Falae was the champion of SAP and as far back as then he was the one pushing for economic restructuring of diversification from crude oil export. He is a technocrat, staunch economist by training that could be likened to Ngozi Okonjo of nowadays. He rose to become finance minister and left office without blemish. Now compare that kind of technocrat that understands the economy to Obasanjo that Igbos chose despite the fact that likely knew this man is better. But you chose a military dictator over that and you will later come and say you voted a Yoruba man, No sir, you didn't do Yoruba any favour rather, you knowingly chose the worse of the two Yorubas that were on offer just because you didn't want to support a candidate of the Yorubas. And point of correction, Igbos voted PDP not Obasanjo, Even if it was Oyenusi (the most notorious thief in Yoruba land then) PDP had presented, they would have voted massively for him. |
pleasureosondu:The point I am also making is that Igbos would vote against whoever is the choice of the Yorubas. On what basis did they vote for Obasanjo and not Falae? No basis at all apart from the fact that he is the one PDP presented to them and he is NOT the choice of the Yorubas. It is a case of The enemy of my enemy is my friend. If it was the other way round and Olu Falae was presented by PDP in that election, the Igbos would have voted overwhelmingly for him against any other person in any other party who is the choice of the Yorubas. Igbos not voting Ojukwu was not because they preferred Obasanjo to him. It was the normal personal power tussle in Igboland that made other states vote against him, he still won with a landslide in his native Anambra. It was Obasanjo that was actually the politician with a questionable character in that elections and yet the Igbos voted for him massively against Olu Falae that could be seen as a kind of 'saint' among the politicians. |
pleasureosondu:I was following this conversation but I have to come in because you are changing the narrative. What you criticized this person for is why would they make this video that looks like an ethnic video and he corrected you that some Igbo musicians endorsed Obi and they were praised so why see Yoruba actors that endorsed Tinubu as demons? Don't change the narrative to you hating Tinubu Talking about Igbos voting for Obasanjo. Let it be on record that the Igbos voted for PDP and not Obasanjo. Olu Falae was the choice of Yorubas in that election. It is not a secret that Igbos always vote against any Yoruba choice and same for Yorubas voting against any Igbo's choice since the supposed alliance between Zik and Awolowo broke down and Zik partnering with a Northern party to Clinch the Presidency. So no need hiding behind a finger, whoever the Yorubas support would never be supported by majority Igbos and same the other way round. The hatred for Tinubu is just because he is presently the focal point of Yoruba politics presently and he's the only Yoruba that stands a chance of winning the presidency at this point. He is also a tribal bigot that doesn't hide his dislike for Igbo's not always supporting him or even his godfathers right from the days of MKO. On the Muslim/muslim ticket that is not even in the equation at all. Moreso, he has not even picked his VP just like Obi has not done his. Yoruba people are kind of unique when it comes to religious tolerance. Majority of Yoruba muslims (aside a few mad people like MURIC) don't care who lead them, same with christians. There is no family in Yoruba land that doesn't have a mixture of Muslim and Christian. Many families in Nigeria have husband or wife christian while the spouse is Muslim and the children decide whichever religion they want to follow and the family live peacefully (Tinubu himself is an example, He is an Alhaji while is wife is an ordained Pastor in RCCG). If any you say Christians hate him for his muslim/muslim ticket it's definitely not from Yoruba side. And even if he brings the Pope himself as his running mate the Igbos can never vote for him, So who is he trying to please? is the aim not to win election? Then he must do what's best for him to win |
Just a brief submission on the certificate saga of Bola Ahmed Tinubu. Let us first look at the fact in this matter. Bola Ahmed Tinubu attended and graduated from the Chicago State University FACT This can be confirmed by a quick mail to the school which would be replied promptly, and if you wish to check further, go find yourself a copy of the graduating list for his year of graduation you will find his name there including the year book as well. Also, it is only an uninformed person that would think a corporations like AA, Deloitte, Mobil etc can employ you and you rise to management position without confirming the university certificate you submitted is Genuine. You may get away with it and scale through the employment process but believe me you would be found out before your confirmation (if you have never worked in this kind of organization before this might be hard for you to understand) Now to the unknown and secrecy Tinubu left the space for primary and secondary school blank in his INEC form, why? According to him, he could not finish his secondary school in Nigeria and went to Richard Dale for Remedial courses which he used to gain admission into the university. Another question is why not include that and provide to whom from the school to back you up if your certificate is missing as you claimed. No, he didn't do that. Also the space for primary school is missing and there is zero explanation for that. Electoral law Fortunately for Tinubu, the electoral law provides a space for someone in his situation to hide. Just like Tax evasion and tax avoidance. Like Peter Obi did what is called Tax avoidance, this is not an offence under the law and corporations and individuals worldwide do it. But the truth of the matter is that it is still cheating, they are cheating the state but the law protects them, it is only the populace that can see them as cheats but in the eyes of the law they have done no wrong. Back to Tinubu matter, the amended electoral law did not say you must have passed through primary or secondary school, but that the minimum qualification of secondary school certificate. So to use the law against itself I can produce a university certificate which is recognized to be higher than secondary school certificate. How I obtained it is none of INEC problem, their problem is to confirm the certificate is genuine or not. We the populace can only groan and shout that how can somebody give university certificate without secondary school? your grievances should be directed towards the university that awarded the certificate to know how the candidate was admitted in the first instance. So, just like Peter Obi's tax brouhaha, Tinubu has not committed any electoral offence and hence those waiting for his disqualification are obviously waiting at the riverside to see the crab blink. What is Tinubu now hiding In my own opinion what I think Tinubu is hiding why he's not disclosing his primary and secondary schools with years attended is just because of his age, revealing his primary school will expose the obvious age discrepancy which can now become an offence based on the fact that he has declared certain age for INEC and anything outside that will lead to disqualification. We learn everyday. |
pharmaking:He is from Iseyin in Oyo State We learn everyday. |
omoharry:You hit the nail on the head. Its not about the schools (he obviously attended), it's about the age that could not be reconciled. |
BennyDGreat:Same here bro. This space is now dominated by kids, illiterates and louts unlike way back then. You can hardly find people with your kind of meaningful and intelligent submissions here anymore. We learn everyday |
Prosper123:Okay. We learn everyday |
Brookdcook:Yeah, thanks. Many Nigerians feel when you correct them on something that you are insulting them. We learn everyday. |
Brookdcook:Tout is incorrect The correct word is Lout. A tout means something different from what you are trying to describe Many so called educated Nigerians don't actually know this. We learn everyday |
BennyDGreat:Believe me it would fly. 1. Obasanjo and GEJ were not ordained 'Pastors" of one of the most popular churches in the world 2. Obasanjo was unanimously supported by all the powers that be then just to placate the Yorubas because of MKO saga. Similar thing with GEJ (power of incumbency, support from then powerful Obasanjo, and the masses fully behind him because it was looking like he was being cheated as a result of his humility). I have stayed on both divides of the Niger river before so I have first hand inclination how the two broad regions behave. Yeah, the Muslim/muslim ticket could backfire actually but the truth is that as it stands that is their only chance of having a shot at the presidency. Talk of being caught between the devil and the deep blue sea. |
BennyDGreat:What I mean by Pastor tag is that they will make the majority muslim North see him as coming to "christianize" Nigeria. And we all know the Northern muslims are not as religion tolerant as we are down South. This will make them do a 'gang up' vote against him, even from his same APC party. Yeah, you are right, as it stands Atiku's block vote is only coming from NE maybe Taraba sef might be out of his reach. He should forget SW this time, it's on lockdown for Tinubu and Obi has decimated his figures in SE while the scorned Wike is ready to make him regret picking Okowa in SS |
BennyDGreat:Hmmm, Osinbajo best for Nigeria but definitely worst for APC. Amaechi would be a better candidate for APC than him. Fielding Osinbajo in the general elections would be a walk over for Atiku without much efforts. All the northern muslim just need to do is to hang the "pastor" tag to his name and do their underground campaign that his agenda is to build church on every street in Nigeria, and Atiku would have won the election even as early as 11am on election day. |
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