₦airaland Forum

wman:
You must also realise that some of these donations are eye-service [/b]that is key to getting contracts and favors from the government. Also, [b]it is a PR move. In the next few years, they will tell investors and the general public how they helped Nigerians during the Covid-19 crisis. Everything is well-calculated and factored out.

There will be a global recession, and it makes no sense to have a bloated workforce. In the end, I blame China for all these.

As a matter of fact, donations made towards covid-19 by corporate bodies and individuals are tax deductible, meaning that when it comes to paying their corporate taxes these donors can (and trust me, they will) deduct the donations made from the tax payable. Hence, most of these donations are actually prepaid taxes in the real sense of it and not "donations".

Reference: Lockdown to me is like you lifting your bed edge so that your wife can sweep under it. It is hard work. If you strain to lift and your wife is busy on the phone or cannot find the broom or sweeps with lethargy you are bound to react.

Very apt analogy.

Globad:
You are now making inferences.

If you didn't know the law then you shouldn't have been so confident to the extent of saying government is responsible. You should have asked questions rather than passing a judgement because judgement ought to be from knowledge.

To start with, in which part of the world have you seen the names of the patients or dead people made public?

Unless the people on their own waive the right or it's a case which has other factors.

I don't even know why you need the names of people dying from a disease before believing that the disease exists.

Instead of the back and forth, just politely ask him to give you the names of the people that Lassa fever has killed.

Clinton207:
Can I ask a question pls, for those who think the lockdown should be called off, can suggest brilliant ideas to implement to contain further spread if everyone goes about their normal daily routines?

There are no 2 ways to it. If the lockdown should continue, government should sincerely and aggressively, make palliatives available to the citizens so that they do not die of hunger.

If government cannot make the palliatives available, they should enforce the use of nose masks and handwashing in corporate organizations and markets.

W.H.O have said that the virus is going to be around for a long time, so the question is "how long can you lockdown the people and the economy".

Mind you, I supported the lockdown in the short term but it is a no no for longer than a month without catering for the people.

seunlayi:
If man can survive war with little food, why can't we just do the same now and battle the chain of Covid-19? I hope people won't learn in a harder way.

What advantage(s) have we taken of the current lockdown?

While lockdown maybe beneficial, it has to be a part of an overall strategy. The necessary twin step of lockdown is rapid testing. But how many people have we tested since lockdown?!

At this testing rate, Lagos and Abuja may need to be on lockdown for 8 months, God forbid.

You cannot keep people at home for more than a month without palliatives. Even countries with better per capita income understand this basic principle.

Besides, what sense does it make when you force people to stay at home and government officials paid with tax payers money didn't think twice before attending a burial ceremony that is capable of escalating infections and there are no sanctions as we speak.

Foolishness in high places is what is on display!

DanseMacabre:
Tragic.

To be candid though, I'd rather put the blame on the failed government than on the medical personnel. The behaviour of the medical personnel towards the man's wife is a fallout of the government's refusal to provide them with equipment for fighting this virus.

Why did it take the hospital hours to wear their PPE and attend to the patient?

This is one death too many. In this particular case, we cannot pin the death on government.

At least the man mentioned that it took the medical staff like forever to wear their ppe. So they eventually wore the ppe after the woman died.

This is unprofessional.

May the Good Lord grant her soul eternal rest and for the husband and children, I pray for them to have the fortitude to bear the loss.

Venzal:
The scenario that we dreaded is now staring us in the face. We are now in full-blown community spread mood. And, God help us, the numbers will now continue to climb daily.

If only we didn't have a docile, clueless, and irresponsible government!

Our only HOPE is in God, regardless of what atheists want to have you believing.

Blame the government as much as you want but blame the citizens more.

After government through NCDC advised us to keep social distance, some people chose to go and exercise in their numbers on the highways.

Some were throwing parties with reckless abandon.

And some of us chose to believe it was "audio".

Some churches were holding services and some mosques were holding jumaat services with full attendance.

Any sane mind could predict the direction we were headed given our lack of discipline!

Discretion, they say, is the greatest part of valor!

composure:
The Nigeria govt is bad but it's citizens are worse.

Undiluted fact!

One of the few things I have learnt from Kyari's death is that he paraded a rich C.V.

incomevision3k:
what did this Kyari do that makes people to hate him like this? or is it herd mentality
what were his factual sins?

Herd mentality is the phrase.

infohenry:
Please help me outline those his misdeeds. That man was just the president staff, you can not claim to have any personal encounter with him for you to hate him this badly. So if you can educate me on his misdeeds, may be i will understand to root of all this hatred for this man even in death. Thank you and remain bless.

Your post in emphasis refers.

I asked myself the same question this morning. What can I hold against this guy except for the fact that he was loyal to his principal - the President.

I couldn't point to one single thing except maybe some hearsays from the opposition politicians.

If I should hold anybody responsible for the bad state the country finds itself it should be the elected officers and not an appointed person.

The misdemeanors of an agent are the misdemeanors of his/ her principal, in the course of an agency.

ednut1:
Chinese and Indians are also scamming. So lets stop picking on Nigeria only

But we have to continue picking on Nigerian scammers because we are Nigerians and that's what affect our image as Nigerians.

Chinese and Indians can continue scamming people and earning bad names for themselves, that shouldn't be our focus.

Nigerians cannot be claiming bad leadership as being responsible for their poor statuses only for them to go out to countries with good leaders and working systems only to resort to scams and other vices instead of making use of the new opportunities in those environments to make money legitimately.

jaxxy:
Can't N2 billion build a 2000 capacity isololation centre? Temporary not even permanent ones.

Thats a small fraction of the monies u were given to handle the coronavirus situation by just private donors alone.

That amount you mentioned should build a tidy 2000 capacity isolation centre.

However, how soon would such a facility be ready for use?

I guess, that is why the foreign minister said they would have to bring in the returnees in batches.

BABANGBALI:
5 young boys raped the lady and since then things were never the same between them, so she decided to pack out and moved on with her lfe

This is very pathethic and condemnable. I can imagine the psychological trauma she went through. What about their children or were they newly married when the event occurred?

BABANGBALI:
you must be a retired armed robber or a kingpin. Forgive kee you there.


Those guys raped my neighbour's wife and scattered their marriage

Are you for real? I almost thought that they were just hungry boys with bad parenting.

If they go about raping people's wives and daughters, it shows that they are more sinister than some people think. In which case, they deserve whatever comes to them.

May God restore the broken marriage of your neighbour, if it hasn't gone beyond redemption.

sammirano:
Maybe you should read the post again, the young woman developed an infection (separate) after delivery, already the mortality of infection after childbirth is high. The testing positive for the virus does not in any way validate it as the cause of death.

Thanks for your mature response.

Sadly, puerperal infections can be caused by both bacterias (E. Coli, Staphylococcus, Streptococcus) and viruses (HPV, Corona Virus, Influenza).

Again, puerperal infections, either bacterial or viral can cause sepsis.

The sadder fact is that, while bacterial infections have treatments viral infections do not have treatments and have to run their cause, hence puerperal infections of viral nature are more probable to be fatal.

Hence, if the clinicians who handled her case have determined that Corona virus was responsible for the sepsis that led to her death you cannot fault them in attributing her death to Corona Virus.

For references see:
https://www.sepsis.org/sepsisand/viral-infections/

https://www.ecowatch.com/amp/what-is-sepsis-2645498473

Copy: jarus, Daverichie008

peacettw:
Exactly my thoughts. What is the relationship between sepsis and covid 19?

The relationship between sepsis and covid-19 or Corona virus is that Corona virus (a viral family of flu) can cause sepsis.

See the following link for more information:

https://www.sepsis.org/sepsisand/viral-infections/

sammirano:
Every death is covid.

If every death is being attributed to COVID-19, they would be attributing about 6,356 deaths per day to covid because an estimated 6,356 Nigerians die per day
(using 365 days in a year and assuming a total population of 200 million people)

This is based on the annual national death rate of 11.6 per 1000 per annum as of 2019 when there was no global pandemic.

The total number of deaths attributed to Corona virus as of today (since 2 to 3 weeks ago) in Nigeria is about 7 to 8 or thereabouts.

So I find it laughable when Nigerians say that the authorities are attributing all deaths in Nigeria to Corona virus.

Copy: Daverichie008

osilamah77:
The returning 127 tested positive now how many cases in ivory coast herself... Naija i hail o

The report never said that the returning 127 tested positive, I don't know where you got that from.

The report said that the returning 127 were tested.

110 tested negative and were released to go and join their families.

17 tested positive and government took them in for management

Of the 17, 1 was released previously and another 10 released; having tested negative twice to the test.

It is your right to have doubts and I'm only putting the records straight based on the reports that you reacted to.

dirtydiva:
Did you know what ds effect hv caused in my community Ewupe, Ogun state? Thief don yapa for street and we no longer sleep as we form vigilante group making bonfire night just to scare them off but what if dey go around with live arm? It can't continue like ds and I can't be a scape goat while the leaders are there in capital city enjoying life the way dey want

I admit that the lockdown isn't easy for a lot of Nigerians. However, I disagree that it is the lockdown that is causing theft and robberies in your community. It is people who wanted to steal that are capitalizing on the lockdown.

To get my perspective, I know from your narrative that you have just been recently employed and you are yet to collect your salary, so understandably things are tough for you. But I believe that you would never resort to theft or robbery even if things get tougher.

The people that the robbers are coming to attack in your community, are things not tough for them or are they immuned to the economic effects of this lockdown? So why have they not started robbing others?

Thieves would always be thieves!

sammyscholar:
Yet, thousands of people keep dying under the watch of their foreign counterparts!

If you feel they are not doing some things excellently well, honourably inform them and propose possible ways for them. Don't just come here to condemn.

Don't appear as clueless as the people you're trying to berate!

Some people just talk for the sake of talking. Like you pointed out, thousands have lost and are losing their lives under the "foreign counterparts" he referred to.

Btruth:
still pondering on this too. Could it be our weather?

It is really hard to tell.

bjgurl:
Good move
Meanwhile I just finished jogging in my area not Lagos though

Even if it was Lagos, I believe you shouldn't have problems as long as you didn't jog in groups.

This people here, jogged and exercised in groups of people more than 20 therefore flouting the rule as spelt out by Lagos State government.

idealogical:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw9KdkM4LmQ


This is a good samaritan and a great Nigerian feeding Nigerians with her own money, but the ungrateful lots turned around to abuse insult her efforts, saying she did not give them enough meat.

The ignorant and ungrateful people thought she's representing the government so they abused and insulted the government for giving them rice with not enough meat.

This is how ungrateful, mean and callous some people are, it doesn't matter what you do, they'll still complain and abuse you because they are born complainers, born abusers and born ungrateful people.

The actions of those guys complaining about the food is condemnable. She didn't beg them to come for the food, if they could afford better they didn't need to take it.

Like leaders, like followers.

Xisnin:
I suppose you have access to their health history?
People never learn from Spain to Italy to the US and hope not Nigeria.

Politicized to what end?
Most countries are actually reducing the actual numbers according to experts.

If a hypertensive man got knocked down by a bus will you say he died of hypertension because
he could have died "any time"?

Awesome logic!

Ishilove:
Who has been releasing her? There's something wrong somewhere!

I suspect that the court had granted her bail previously and the police released her, on court order, having fulfilled the bail conditions.

According to him, 33 children have been reunited with their parents while the suspect is undergoing trial in a court.

My deduction is hinged on the clause in emphasis.

BeerParlour:
Federal government shares money in the North while police and military are extorting and killing the Southerners.

I have read about this claim somewhere and I saw an attached picture. However, there was nothing to show whether it was the FG or State government that was sharing money. Do you have better sources that can confirm that FG was responsible. Thanks in advance.

gensteejay:
Do you have sources for this, please?

Sorry, it was President Bill Clinton, in 1997, that apologized for the misadventure.

And I am referring to the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment. This experiment was conducted on negroes in America. Even when penicillin was discovered to cure syphilis, they were denied treatments and they were never told that they had syphilis.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment

You can use Google for more research on the subject matter using the search phrase "Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment".

gypsey:
well.. Africans are the ones who put themselves in this position, they are the ones risking their lives travelling through libya and the mediteranian sea to get to Europe.



So if the french wanted to test their vaccines on Africans it wouldn't be difficult to find 3000 Africans to test it on, all they french had to do is go the an Immigration camps in calais. they will also find lots of African prostitutes in France.

This is so true. Several years ago blacks were used as experimental specimens in a syphilis trial in the U.S.A leading to loss of several lives.

It was Obama (President of the United States - as he then was) who apologized for that misadventure much more later.

LivingSage:
Imagine. We're animals to their stinking skull
The way we conduct ourselves seems so.


Africa will be Great

I'm black and proud

Nothing says black is beautiful more than this poem!

lagdmark:
Bro, Coronavirus took every country on this earth by surprise. No nation was prepared for this level of calamity.
I only blamed our present and previous Presidents, head of states, governors, all MPs, local government authorities since 1967 after the war for not investing in National Health care. All the leaders have their clinics abroad while they abandoned Nigeria for the poor masses.
Most governors were busy building flyovers, planting flowers on roundabouts leading to just a few areas with pictures unloaded on social media.
Our wahala didn't start from today!.

Very well said.

Seun:
I don’t mean to sound mean, but some of the active cases may still end in death, so we can’t count them yet. It would be misleading. We can only count the cases that have been concluded.

(Total deaths) / (total discharged + total still being treated who may or may not die) is a meaningless statistic even if that’s what the media has been calculating for other countries. We have to compare like to like.

Seun, your calculation makes a whole of sense. It is statistically more descriptive than the other one which compares apples and oranges.