In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
That meeting in the beginning was a meeting of the highest order of heaven. It involved the Three in one Person.
The Father, the Word (which later became flesh in Jesus) and the Spirit.
The Word and Spirit belongs to the Father and They were both instrumental in the Work He did in the beginning. The Word came out of His Mouth, and the Spirit performed the Word.
So when God said let Us make man in our Own image, the "Us" referred to Word and the Spirit which He used to make the things He made in the beginning.
He also used "let Us" in the Instance of the tower of babel, where the one language of the world was divided. It involved the same Word and the Spirit which He used to make things in the beginning, hence after the same Word was made flesh, and was multiplied after His death, and the Spirit of God performed the Word that had multiplied, they were able to speak in the one language that was divided because of the tower of Babel when God used the term, "let Us" as He did in the beginning.
God doesn't consult with the angels concerning any plans He has, He just makes decisions and gives them instructions to carry out. The angels weren't involved in the making of things in the beginning so God couldn't have been talking to them but those involved which was His Word and His Spirit.
God bless.
Where did a third personality fly in in that John you quoted. God created language and he is not an author of confusion. A good Bible translation or better the original language of the Bible will show you that that John was referring to two distinct people; the God and a god. Jesus is a lesser god to Jehovah God. In the Bible god means people that have Devine nature/of spirit substance or as it related to the Pharisees (because they were like with even moses referred to as a God too, it can mean people with spiritual influence). Angels were called god's, Satan was called god, Jesus was called a mighty god however there is only one ALMIGHTY GOD, Jehovah the father and creator of Jesus Christ
Genesis 1:26 KJV And God said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
It is clear from the above scripture that someone was with God when He was about to create Adam and the instruction was simple LET US CREATE .
Whoever that person was , can not be anything but a CREATOR like God the speaker .
Jesus was able to create a new hand , eyes and give life to the dead. Who could give life other than God ?
If it were the angels that God was speaking to , the they would have been referred to as our Gods . It would then not be a sin to worship them , since they are our Creators . Fortunately they are not. That is why it is a sin to worship angels .
Who builds a house? The laborers or the contractor directing them. The Bible is clear in the new testament, I think Corinthians that God created all things but through Jesus. God created Jesus directed, however he used him to create all other things. Proverbs 8 made us understand better that Jesus was a chief worker besides God. God it's obvious is the grand creator. Jesus made it clear every where that he is less than God, hence not a part of an triune God. That's what the Bible expressly thought
LegendAnselm: if u can come over to nnewi i ll take u down to my house as a very good friend...i love u bro
I love u to. But ur story sounds so hollow. It doesn't add up. Name the town and community. You might not even give your very address. I am an igboman and I know igbo community it tightly kneated. Things like this can't go under the radar. It will be a shame and lack of fear of God if you made all this up without giving a good thought to the profound effects it will have on the society and how peoples mind get shaped up.
LegendAnselm: yes she came with wedding picture even the first child is a carbon copy to our brother
I Do dna test. And please if u can help with more proof we will appreciate. Because there isn't no story that can't be formed online this days just for likes. This kind of story must be proven real, because it stays with people and help firm their worldview forever
MsDoris: Unidentified Woman forgets her few months old baby inside a commercial bus heading to Owerri, Imo State, Nigeria.
According to the driver of the bus where the baby was found, he heard a child's voice coming from the back seat and asked someone to find out where it was coming from, Lo and behold, they found a baby boy.
He decided to take the baby to the above radio station so they could reach out to his mum and any other person who could recognize the child.
But Na wa o, what was she thinking abi did she intentionally abandon this cute boy?
He is a liar. He is patronizing Buhari because he knows Buhari is gullible. He is afraid he might loose is job due to pressure on the president, so he is using tact to remind the president why he should be allowed to continue. In the eyes of Buhari, the most important role is to guide against coup
CaptainZubi: For about 5 years now I've been battling extreme tiredness . Asides that I sleep alot most especially at afternoons. At night,nonce I sleep around 11pm and not going to work the next day, I can wake up by 10am or 11 am.
During afternoon and night sleeps, the sleep is usually very deep (REM phase or whatever you medics call it, please correct me) and usually characterized by heavy dreams.
Even during work, I'll always take the risk to create some time to have a little sleep. I've been battling this for about 5 years now. What could be wrong.
Go online my friend. I have come across your condition somewhere only that I can't recall now. Go to JW site to and search up your problem. They do usually have educative medical and health articles. You will find help by God's grace
Ayoemrys: what mature response do you want when you already confessed you sleep around like a dog
You are one of the problem of the world. You shouldn't normally have access to phone, as it is a dangerous thing with you has you have demonstrated here by attempting to add to someone's depression. Somebody needed help,but couldn't help. Instead of keeping quite you are trying to add shame to the problem. I pray u get help
It's just for us to admit that this man is blessed.
He is that one man that steps into anywhere in Nigeria without scruples; he is the same man that can have bullion vans directed to his Bourdillon residence in the morning of a presidential election without the fear of probe; that man that assigns the governorship post of the most economically important state to whomsoever he desires.
He is truly the jagaban of Nigeria,if not Africa.
Anyone who hates you should go and become the Landlord of Lagos State and see how easy it comes.
How have you benefitted from those things you praise him for - being able to visit anywhere, being able to move money in bullion vans anytime and being the landlord of Lagos? If these things doesn't benefit you, is your praise for him, which other 60+ people have liked and some few people even shared, reasonable? Does it show you understand life and what is really important in Nigeria?
But thank God that the people of Borno have woken up to the reality.
The Government only protected their cities and then allow Bokoharam to have a free field in their villages just for politics.
Bokoharam is now a siphon pump to some powerful politicians and top military officers.
They don't want this Bokoharam to completely end... They are cashing out billions of dollars from insurgency both from the intentional community and the billions of naira they allocate to the fight against insurgency.
Borno state Governor has decided to stand with his people and defend their lives by fully empowering Civilian JTF... Yan Gora.
I strongly believe in them cos I personally know their capacity!!
God bless Borno youths for defending their villages!!
We are solidly behind yan Gora!!!
But the blue camo isn't appropriate. There is little in that environment that have blue color naturally. Our government and people most time fail in the basics many at times. This people will be easily detected afar
iamvictorbassey: Oga, I go leave earth without knowing Jesus the Israeli White Boy and nothing will happen.
Worry about yourself. Stop making Nairaland uninteresting for us with your thrash preachings about the "cumming" of one motherfuçker.
Modified: Who even told you that if I believed in your folk stories about heaven and hell I'd pick heaven?
As far as I'm concerned heaven will be one boring fucking place going by how it's been described. It'll be a place filled with robots doing the bidding of their imaginary daddy. With all of them in white robes singing hymns from morning till evening. Who dafuq wants to do that?
I'd rather be in hell, chilling with all the big assed ladies I couldn't finish fuçking while on earth. Enjoying shows and live performances from the likes of M.J, Tupac, Biggie, and a host of others. Live sports from Kobe Bryant and the rest.
Y'all gonna buy tickets with plea to enter hell and enjoy.
Aren't you ashamed of yourself? You always come to Nairaland to type rubbish on a forum made possible by an atheist, with a mobile phone designed and created in countries where they don't serve God and your Israeli White Boy. Yet your "Hoe"ly spirit could not give you the divine wisdom to create this kinda platform? Or something creative.
Oga take time o. And stop spamming this place for us. The way I dey see you sef, na your type dey type all these rubbish from on top of different vaginàs and beer parlor. Rubbish.
I will not accept Gay Jesus, come and beat me. Dan iska kawai. Wawa!
The sorry thing is that his (Righteousness) likes have made the word of God look distant and like a fairytale. The kingdom of God that the Bible urges us to press towards isn't boring like u describe, in fact there is going to be different work for everybody to do and different skills and hobby to pursue. We will also continue to study and marvel at the universe in that kindom. You sound intelligent, so I will not try and dismiss your view as a kind of ranting. You must have arrived at it after some studies and moments of pondering over the years. Still I will want you to know that the universe is too complex not to have been created, so having been created by a creator (who we call God), it's natural to expect that he has a purpose for everything on it. And we as the custodian of the universe or earth being the must intelligent bein, there are ways God will want us to go about taking care of the earth. He as left us with manuals. He has been speaking to us in diverse ways since the beginning of time. You are intelligent. Ponder on this things.
IamHeWrites: [font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]The Nigeria Police Force has shared a video on social media to debunk allegation that a photo of suspects uploaded on Tuesday was falsified, Igbere TV reports.
The police had shared pictures one of which bore a woman Talatu Ibrahim a suspected arm bearer from Zamfara State and Duleji Abubakar who allegedly patronises her. Some social media users alleged the pictures were fake because they were doctored.
But the police uploaded a video on Wednesday to prove the suspects were arrested.
PHOTOS OF SUSPECTS SHARED ON NPF OFFICIAL HANDLES NOT FALSIFIED
The attention of @PoliceNG has been drawn to comments in the social media erroneously suggesting that the photos of the suspects shared on the Police handles on 1st December, 2020 were falsified. pic.twitter.com/MBGdkSqSHH
I didn't doubt they arrested criminals. The worry was that the particular pictured they shared was photoshopped. That table with the gun and the two people at that moment doesn't correspond.
TMSMedia: Boy Accidentally Kills Himself in Lagos While Trying To Confirm If Death By Hanging Is Possible (Photos)
A business woman has been arrested in Lagos after her young nephew allegedly killed himself by hanging himself from a ceiling fan on Monday, November 31, IgbereTV reports.
According to Vera, the woman's neighbour, who is based in Lagos, the incident happened on Monday, November 30, when the boy's aunt went to the market to buy goods.
She claimed that boy identified as Kelvin, hung himself from the ceiling while reportedly trying to confirm if is possible for one to die by hanging.
He must have been a brilliant kid. He was curious and daring. My story would have been like his. I tried something like this around his age or younger at the front of my grandmas house in full day light. The house is arguably the most centrally placed in the community, facing the main road. I hunged from the tree in front of the house. But luckily for me, after close to around ten seconds struggle, the rope broke. I could have hunged for about 5minutes without anybody noticing. I can only imagine what would have been peoples reaction. They would have said things like I was under diabolic "remote control", many would have said it's a further proof that my grandma is a witch (as she had experienced quite a number of high profile misfortunes), she wouldn't have been able to live with it-no further reasonable defense from her, but the more reasonable ones would have known I fell a victim of my risky plays, high curiosity and hyperactivity. I didn't use to watch much films, but I try to replicate things from movies; I tried building 'noahs ark', I built several bow and arrows, swam river Nigerian river at Jebba several times during Deeper life retreats and scaled discrepit high rise buildings with ropes.
Righteousness89: The World Today is Highly Polluted both Spirtually and Physically.
Many things we see that we think does not Matter are the things used by the evil Spirtual Forces to capture the Gullible and those Spirtually blind.
This young innocent boy is very likely a Victim of what he saw or watch on the tv or internet. Many of the stuffs ( Cartoons and all that ) put out in the name of kids shows and all that filled with Highly Demonic stuffs. There are cartoons today that put out Lgbt stuffs, and other demonic stuffs.
The little kids get to fill their brain with these things, in their dreams they visit them and the end result is things like these..
We Live in very Dangerous times. You have to be Watchful and Prayerful over you're and your Household..
A Word they say is Enough for the wise!
Remember you claim everyone that commits suicides is doomed to hell regardless of the circumstances? You hold that summation too for an accidental suicide like this? My guess is that you won't respond. But please spirituality is of utmost importance. Don't go about it just for likes or fame. Research your answers. Only say what you are sure of. You aren't just dealing with people's life but you are dealing with their happiness and eternity.
Jones4190: No because the scripture says you should not appear in God present empty handed
It's old testament injunction. The Christian era emphasise cheerful giving. But the love of God naturally compels u to want to support his work. I have had the conviction long now, that the practice of sharing envelope or arranging for people to dance to the front to give offering is wrong, as it's a way of subtly compelling or shaming people to give. In the synagogues that Jesus met and used, the offering box was put at a corner somewhere around the door/gate where anybody can at any moment drop whatever in. There was not a special time for collecting offering.
Brandonx: How can a sensible lady agree to meet a client in his house? Except she's going to do runs. Someone you don't know from Adam you didn't set a meeting in a public place.
People like u dey surprise me Everytime. Where u read sey she agreed to meet at the guys house?
In the sake of peace and good faith, the girl's father should drop this case.
Unless he is devoid of a conscience; he will be forever eaten up with guilt if he is the cause of someone's suicide, I don't want to even talk about the loss of job and untold disgrace it will bring to the policeman's family.
Besides he can't act as 'guardian at litem' because she is not a minor. But I see lots of holes in her claims.
First, who goes downstairs to get better cellular network? You went to his house and he asked you to come back later as he just woke up but you still stayed. It was 1:42pm yet you decided to stay and wait for someone who was to be back at 3pm...and to think you live in this same compoun byd.
Okay, he dragged you and began the deed and you still could not shout. I don't know if it is because one side of my head is paining me but it does not add up to me.
The policeman is somewhat lucky that the girl was already 18years and 2days on the day of this "alleged offence" so this rules out statutory rape.
With a good lawyer or an amicus curiae like myself; the girl's confession to asking him to go get a condom can be interpreted as oral consent and then it automatically changes this case to that of contract of adhesion because he opted for skin-to-skin for his utmost pleasure.
My dear the society has lost it's value, that's why u can think that it's logical for him to drop the case so the man won't commit suicide. Read again how the man is begging because of his children. What happens to the girl? Is she not somebody's child too? You think her experience also cannot lead her the dark path to murder. Justice should be served not necessary to right whatever wrong, but to deter others that possibly might be thinking 'na beg we go just beg. Finish'. People that want to use emotional blackmail. It's scary many people liked ur comments. It helps to guage that there are many that have your kind of logic
Righteousness89: GOD Bless Me President Trump! My PRECIOUS DADDY Bless me President Trump!
Great Grace! Great Courage! Great President!
We Love you Trump! You the Greatest President of the United States of America.. Ignore the noise makers Home and Abroad.. We that Love You WorldWide are Much more than the noise Makers..
GOD IS IN TOTAL CONTROL
See I love you but I love God more. Watch what your type is doing to Christianity unknowingly. What reason do you have that this man with is obvious fragility is a chosen of God? It's absurd how many of you think America or even Israel (that's not even formally a Christian country) are approved by God? Does God ever fail?
Gift52: Graphic: Three missing children found dead inside car at retired police officer's home in Enugu
The bodies of three children were found in a car parked at the home of a retired police officer at Ugwu Ogede in Itchi, Igbo-Eze South Local Government Area of Enugu State on Monday, November 23.
The victims identified as Chibugo Eze, Chinenye Eze, and Ebuka Ene, were reported missing after they went to fetch water at a commercial borehole owned and located at the home of the former police officer.
It was gathered that two other children named Kingsley Eze, and Mmasichukwu were equally rescued from the same car and upon resuscitation, they claimed that three hooded men abducted them into the car and left.
The parents of the children had raised a search team when their children who had gone to the borehole at about 8 am on Sunday, November 22, did not return home as usual.
The traditional ruler of the community, HRH, Igwe Ike Oke, who confirmed the incident said that he also mobilised personnel of vigilante and Forest Guard groups who joined in the search of the missing children.
"We were almost frustrated in our search when a community member who went to fetch water heard the voice of a little child calling her name. She traced the voice to a car that had been parked for over six months in the compound where she discovered the children and raised the alarm,"said the monarch.
“We found three of the children already dead by the time we opened the car. I think they suffocated to death because the car doors were stiffed when we tried to open it at first but we engaged an artisan who forced it open. One of the two children rescued said they went to fetch water but didn’t meet anyone at the borehole because the owner and the entire members of the family had gone to church service,"
“He informed us that they were about going home when three hooded men came from a hill beside the scene of the incident and abducted them into the car and left. He said they were all dressed in red cloths. He also said that the hoodlums returned at the middle of the night to take them away but they couldn’t open the car doors because they were stiffed. We are still investigating.
The way Nigerian police and emergency worker and transport dead victims show no dignity at all. It's little surprise though as living people are not even respected to start with
BadBreathBoy: This guy called bad breath have haunted me all the way from primary school down to secondary and even to my university level.
I am still a young 19 years old guy at the peak of youthfulness but this guy is just ruining everything for me. My self-esteem, public speaking skills, social life, confidence, in fact, everything has been smashed with a sledgehammer right in my face. I have turned into an introvert because of this bad sickness but will cover it up with "Money on my mind" shït.
I have tried everything possible guys. Below are kinds of stuff that I have tried and it is not working.
1. Visiting a dentist. 6 months ago, I took all the money I had to go over to the dentist in search of a solution. Had to wait for hours before getting attended to. When the doctor came in, she first started with some words of encouragement.
Telling me I might not have bad breath and all, people might be thinking they have it but don't blah blah blah. (So me that have bad breath I don't know what I am saying right?) After much talk, she recommended flossing and cleaning. That exercise where water passing through a tiny hole at high speeds is used to remove plaque from in between your teeth. I had to shell out a whopping 4k for that plus the extra card of 500. All the money I saved was gone just like that. It didn't work!!! Bad breath still held me down.
2. Brushing twice a day. I did this for 1 week straight up without any improvement relative to the hard work put in. So I became less consistent with this. Toothpaste I have tried includes, Oral B, MyMy, Maclean, Close up, name it. Didn't work.
3. Garlic and ginger. Some persons here on Nairaland recommend that ginger and garlic can be used to drive off bad breath. The prescription was to swallow it whole before going to bed at night then brush in the morning to remove the after-effects. I tried this for one week. Didn't work.
4. Mouthwash: I have wasted more than 4k in buying mouthwash but these things are just 2 hours wonder from the moment of application. I get fresh breath for the time being but after like 3 to 4 hours, the bad breath keeps on coming back. Still didn't work.
5. Hydrogen peroxide: Someone also recommended I use this to chase bad breath. It also works for sometime after which bad breath comes back. I even tried to dilute less than normal for maximum effects but the only thing I got was an irritating burn on my tongue. I am so not using this guy again!
6. Walnut: Some said walnut could be my Savior so I had to buy them in large quantity to chew but it didn't have long-term effects. So I ditched it. I don't have money to waste as I am still a student.
7. Chewing a combination of bitter leaf, scent leaf, and guava leaves: Out of intuition, I decided to try this combination. My common sense inferred that since it was bitter, it should probably have some effects on the bacteria in my mouth. But alas! Bad breath wasn't even impressed one bit. I even had to stuff them in my pocket and chew on them while going to class. This was a big flop. Didn't work at all.
8. Agnes Nwamma Herbal powder: I don't know what to say about this one, because it was even better that I just didn't brush for that day. Very useless in fighting off bad breath.
The funny thing that leaves my jaw-dropping is that my dad doesn't even brush, he uses a chewing stick but still has a very fresh breath than I that used mouthwash, baking powder, toothpaste and still chew the chewing stick to top that.
9. Chewing gum like Clorets, Methos: I have to be frank about these gums, they kind of aggravates the bad breath. They are simply applying salt to injury so I just stopped using them altogether.
Pls Nairalanders, help me out here. There have been lots of people who found a solution to their problem on here, so I doubt mine will be different. Pls, I need something else to try that will not dig a hole in my pocket as I am still trying to stand on my feet. I need a permanent solution not 3 hours wonder.
Lala pls push to the front page so I can get a large set of solutions to fight this off.
I don't want to resume school like this. I am tired, I am weak, disheveled, exhausted, dejected, depressed, anguished, melancholic, in fact, I have tayad like this.
My confidence and esteem have been crushed by bad breath. Shyness, inability to have streamlined chat with people, playing deaf and dumb, using hand signals whilst communicating, smiling like a peacock when my opinion is required, staying away from girls, snubbing people, rejecting positions that have me talk to a crowd has taken over!!
Pls, abeg, mbok, biko, I need a solution. A permanent one at that.
There are many organism in the mouth and guys that causes this thing. Some organism in the mouth are similar to those you find in the hope of your foot after a day of wearing socks. My advice that has a high percentage of working is for you to be taking citrys fruits like oranges and lime regularly. Components of citrus fights many of this organism
Temitopemo6e6: Despicable Dred of the society. I have heard about you and your gayness back home in Nigeria. you think christianity is all about being like the Pharisees and Sadducees ? THE Almighty sees only the hearts of all men and not the number of times you preached in churches and on the streets or the the number of times you falsely called and claimed HIS Name nor paraded your best outfits to Church while your heart is filled with vile. President Trump is one of the most kindhearted US presidents ever apart from President George Bush Jnr and Clinton in modern history. your anger is that he despises your likes who are closet dim Gays who are desperate for him to leave and you will bounce out in the public space unabashedly again like you did during the time of the most fake president ever Barrack Hussein Obama, who speaks and talks and exhorts all falsely and does something else behind closed doors. Who calls Black men Jackasses when they have little issues like he called Kanye West, who did not put in place jobs that the black community will access with quickly, who refused to send Aid to Africa when Ebola ravaged Africa because Africa refused to accept Gays like you because Africans do not believe able bodied men should take joysticks in the Anal like you have so shamelessly accepted to. go hide in shame you ugly scum of the earth.
It's a lie from the kingdom of Satan that God only watches the heart. The Bible says that faith without work is dead. You must be a Christian not only in your Earth but also in your actions and words. Americas have had presidents that tries to do good for their people, but many of the policies they pursue either Democrats or Republican like Trump is anything but Christian. Trump's support owning guns, he shows favouritism to some members of the society and encourage hate. Did Trump too support Africa during this coronavirus? Why are you people so sentimental and vain. These presidents fight wars and murder thousands yet you think Republicans represents Christian values? Shame on you people trying to shame the God of the Bible. In truth Satan has covered a lot of you with veil so you won't see the light of the truth. God doesn't have business with these leaders.
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Righteousness89: It's Good and awesome to rejoice and Celebrate when you feel you have victory in your course of Pursuit! But when its not yet over! You need to know that anything can Happen!
It took just 6 days for the Today Isreal to regain their land in 1948...
It took just 7days for the Isrealites to bring down the Wall of Jericho
We Live in very strange times and Seasons..
70 days is a Whole lot time for things to Happen..
It is not Over until it's Over!
In the Christendom, we don't Give up ! No Matter how Difficult it seems! We do not Give in to the Crowd! We Stand out of the Crowd in our Belief! We Stand our Ground and Trust our GOD until it's Over! Then we know know His will is in Place!!
I Better Firmly Trust and Believe GOD in what I desire and see it Fail than to be a Beliver with a Dead Faith that gives in easily to what I Shouldn't
I am not a Christian who goes with the Crowd! Far be it From me! I am not a Christian with a Feeble mind! Even if the Whole World goes for a thing! As long as it's not what I Believe the Word of GOD says, I do not go with it!
You are not who determines a man of God, God himself through the Bible does. Now let's listen to what the Bible says; - the Bible told us that we know if a prophet is of God if what he says comes through. TB Joshua has said things that came through and some other things that didn't. Now, that inconsistency is never God. God is all powerful and wise enough to make ALL his words come through. - A man can do a lot of good deeds and even performs miracle to the point that people like you get so impressed but still, when he meet with Jesus, he will be told 'i know you not, you worker of iniquity.'
Trump, while not a model Christian, is willing to stick out his neck to protect Christian rights. They don't like that.
Anyone who has followed dems in recent times, knows they want to build a godless society. A society where anything about God (most especially, the Christian God) is completely eroded.
One message for Christians though is that regardless of the outcome of this elections, Christianity is going back to the catacombs in the near future. Serious persecution.
Christian right is right to carry guns abi. U people are in a serious pitiful spiritual conditions. U have to go back and study the Bible well
Alexgman1: 10 THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THE GARDEN OF EDEN
1. Eden was good, but not yet fully glorious. Eden was bright and beautiful, and we tend to think of it in terms of perfection. But rather than thinking of Eden in terms of perfection, we should think of it in terms of potential. Certainly, Eden was pure and pristine, ordered and filled, but the Eden we read about in Genesis 1 and 2 wasn’t yet everything God intended for his creation. It was unsullied but incomplete.
From the very beginning, Eden was not meant to be static; it was headed somewhere. We could say there was an eschatology of Eden. God’s intentions for his creation have always been headed toward consummation, toward glory.
2. Eden was abundant, but it wasn’t yet expansive. Genesis 2:8 tells us that on the earth God created, “the LORD God planted a garden in Eden, in the east.” He instructed Adam and Eve to, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth” (Gen 1:28). Clearly there was an expansion project in the works. As Adam and Eve worked and kept the garden, and as they were fruitful and multiplied, Eden would grow beyond its current boundaries, and the glory of Adam and Eve’s royal rule would increase.
God’s intention to dwell with a holy people in a holy land could not be thwarted by human sin.
3. Eden was completely good, but it wasn’t completely secure. As good as the original Eden was, it was vulnerable to evil, deception, and even death. This becomes obvious when we consider that Satan inhabited the body of an ordinary serpent and brought death into the pristine garden. In Revelation 21, John takes care to assure us that this will not happen in the greater garden to come. It will be utterly secure. “Nothing unclean will ever enter it, nor anyone who does what is detestable or false, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s book of life,” (Rev. 21:27).
4. Eden had a rhythm of work and then rest, but not yet unending rest. God did his work of creation, and then he rested. In his rest, God was setting before Adam something to look forward to when he accomplished his work of subduing the earth, exercising dominion over it, and filling it with image bearers. Had Adam faithfully finished the work, he and Eve and their offspring would have entered into a permanent Sabbath rest.
5. Adam and Eve were made in the image of God, but not yet as glorious as God intended. David wrote about the first man, “You have made him a little lower than the heavenly beings and crowned him with glory and honor” (Ps. 8:5). Clearly Adam and Eve, having been made in God’s image had a measure of his glory. Had they obeyed, they would have been transformed from one degree of glory to another. “Transformed from one degree of glory to another” has always been and still remains God’s plan for those made in his image. Even now, as the Holy Spirit works in us, we are being changed from one degree of glory to another. But it is the fullest resurrection glory we anticipate the most. “We await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body” (Phil 3:20–21).
6. Adam and Eve were naked, not yet robed in royal splendor. When we read in Genesis 2 that Adam and Eve were naked in Eden, it may initially seem to us to be a good or neutral thing. But Moses’ original readers would have recognized that something was lacking. These were royal representatives of the great king. And royal representatives in Scripture are always dressed in royal robes (think of Joseph’s coat of many colors, Jonathan’s robe given to David, the robe and ring given to the prodigal son). The report of their unclothedness indicated a need for royal clothing which would have been given to them had they faithfully exercised dominion. But instead of being further clothed, Adam and Eve lost the original glory that covered them. This is what made their unclothedness before God so unbearable that they sought to cover themselves up with fig leaves.
7. Adam and Eve enjoyed one-flesh intimacy, but their bond was vulnerable to brokenness. The love story in Eden began with Adam and Eve enjoying bone-of-my-bones, flesh-of-my-flesh intimacy. But the same two people who were naked and unashamed are, only a few verses later, trying to cover up their shame. The same husband who held out his hand to his wife to welcome her, exclaiming, “At last!” only a few verses later points the finger of blame in her direction, saying, “The woman whom you gave to be with me, she gave me fruit of the tree, and I ate” (Gen. 3:12). This partnership that was intended to bless the world brought a curse upon the world.
Ever since this first marriage went so terribly wrong, God has been working out his plan to present a perfected bride to the perfect groom. The day will come when the shadow of temporary human marriage will give way to the substance—the eternal, unbreakable, most intimate marriage between Christ and his bride. This will be the happiest marriage of all time.
8. Adam and Eve enjoyed God’s presence, but they were vulnerable to his presence in judgment. Adam and Eve experienced the joy of God’s presence with them in the garden before they sinned. But one aspect of his presence with them was the warning he gave them regarding the forbidden tree, “In the day that you eat of it you shall surely die’” (Gen. 2:17). When we read in Genesis 3:8 that Adam and Eve “heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day,” it was not as though God was taking his regular leisurely afternoon stroll in the garden. This was judgment day, which for Adam and Eve meant that it was also eviction day. No longer could they live in the holy sanctuary of Eden in the presence of a holy God, because they had become unholy people.
But God’s intention to dwell with a holy people in a holy land could not be thwarted by human sin. Instead, God began working out his plan to make it possible for sinners to be made clean and holy in order to live in his presence. The day is coming when, “He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God” (Rev. 21:3).
9. Adam and Eve could have gained the knowledge of good and evil without eating from the forbidden tree. When we read about the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (Gen. 2:9), we might think that there must have been something essentially evil, even foreboding, about this tree. But it wasn’t forbidden because it was evil. Rather, it was evil because it was forbidden. God had put this tree in the garden to give Adam and Eve the opportunity to live out genuine faith and obedience. Adam and Eve could have used the wisdom God gave them through his word to judge the Serpent’s lies and rebellion against God as evil, while clinging to God’s goodness. Adam should have crushed the head of the evil serpent then and there. He should have squashed this rebellion rather than taking part in it. Had he done so, Adam and Eve would have been able to eat their fill of the tree of life, and enter into a heavenly life, without ever having to experience death.
10. Eden had the tree of life, but Adam and Eve were prohibited from eating from it. We’re not told specifically that Adam and Eve could not or did not eat of the tree of Life that was in the midst of the garden. But it would seem that the fruit of this tree was a feast for Adam and Eve would enjoy once they passed the test of obedience represented in the forbidden tree. Revelation 2:7 speaks of eating of the tree of life being granted to those who “overcome” or “conquer.” Clearly, Adam and Eve did not overcome temptation. They were meant to rule over creation but they couldn’t rule over their own appetites. Because of their disobedience they were barred from eating of the tree.
Revelation 22 reveals that the opportunity for God’s people to eat of the tree of life is not gone forever. Instead, the tree of life is gloriously planted in the center of the greater garden to come. In Eden, the trees bore fruit in their season, which means once a year. But in the new and better Eden, the tree of life yields a new crop of fruit every month. In Eden, the tree of life grew in the midst of the garden. But in the new Eden, the tree of life grows on either side of the river. It seems to have multiplied and expanded, implying that everyone will have access to it; all will be welcome to eat their fill. And it’s not just the fruit that will feed us; the leaves of this tree will heal us. In fact, they will heal everything.
Sometimes we hear the story of the Bible told as Creation-Fall-Redemption-Restoration. But as good as Eden was, we’re not merely headed back to Eden as it once was. The story of the Bible is Creation-Fall-Redemption-Consummation. We’re looking forward to a home that will be even better than Eden.
Wos u are twisting things my friend, applying theology and wisdom of men. Eden was what God wanted all along for men. The Bible said God confirmed that everything was good. The Bible also said of God that perfect is his way. That edenuc condition is what we lost and it's what we, by Christ death will gain back. God likes us to know our place. We were made lower than the angels and this is not something we should loath. The angels live with God in the heavens. They have freewill too but are way more stronger and superior. We are made here on the Earth to manage it for God. Every being have their place and role in God's arrangements and we should be thankful that he even gave us life and not to hope to be like or even greater than angels. As for evil entering the first Eden, this is not entirely strange as even devil was also allowed into heaven for sometime. Angels in heaven too sinned. But God has promised not to allow sin again in a new heaven and a new Earth (Eden) that he is bringing about.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by thinkmoney(m): 10:10am On Dec 06, 2020
