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Ladyhippolyta88:
Pence does not deserve any credit, he came 13 months late after finding it difficult to stand up to the former guy, it took Dan Quayle to remind Pence that the VP had no such power to overturn an election. Pence is no saint if it were within his powers he would have done it.
I don't know why he took him this long to slightly rebuke his old boss who sent a mob to hang him.

I am wondering what if the insurrectionist had their way and hung Mike Pence as they were chanting on January 6th would Donald Trump still be a free man today holding rallies, would the republiQan party still be sucking up to the former guy and worshipping him while rebuking Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney,would they have the guts to call it a "legitimate political discourse" in a nutshell would they have had shame to rebuke Trump, Gaetz, Taylor Greene, Boebarts,the Cawthorn's and other crazy radicals in their party? I want to know because the current republiQan party is a disgrace

The insurrection planners were aware that Pence could not be hanged. With the number of secret service officers guarding Pence, there would have been a blood bath before pence was harmed. They just wanted to disrupt the proceedings.

sanpipita:
No no don't do this, this is exact narrative they are spreading to rebrand Pence, he has no powers to overturn elections if he decided to move mad it wouldn't stand, he will infact end up etching his name in infamy for life, Trump probably thought Pence was stupid enough to act like he wanted.

He was not asked to overturn the elections. He was only required to acknowledge the fake alternate electors and refer the matter back to the states, with the excuse that the states presented 2 sets of electors. All Trump wanted was for Pence not to ratify the elections on January 6th. If pence did not ratify the election that day, then the US would have been in a constitutional crisis. Trump just wanted to create chaos to prevent Biden from being ratified.

gambojimeta:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr7r9JNOWiI

I don't think people are giving enough credit to Pence for saving US democracy.
Trump and his fellow coup plotters were banking on Pence to refuse to certify the elections, and the mob taking over the Capitol building causing chaos and probably killing a few lawmakers particularly Pelosi. Then in the ensuing Chaos, Biden could not be sworn on January 20th. And with Pelosi out of the way Trump continuation as president would have been a fait accompli.

AntonVince:
Did he sponsor Sanwoolu or the CSO in school?
Appointing cronies into positions and and using them to fleece hapless tax-payers of their hard-earned money is what all Godfathers do.
The Sarakis and Iboris of this world have also produced governors, ministers, senators, etc, all pandering to them as they loot public coffers.
There's nothing glorious about it, ogbeni. It's evil.

Abi o. I get annoyed when Tinubu supporters claim Tinubu is a builder of leaders or is it men. Abeg how many men or leader has Tinubu build? How many people has Tinubu impacted knowledge or philosophy? In fact what is Tinubu's philosophy - whether moral, political, economic or social?

Using wealth, influence and thuggery to install acolytes into political offices is not building men. If so Iboris then would be considered a men builder as much as Tinubu, the only difference was Ibori was unlucky Yaradua died at the height of his political power, and Jonathan went after him. You cannot get any political office in Delta State without the support of Ibori.

DeepSight:
Bear in mind though, that the military of today is not the same highly political military of those days.

You think the junior and Middle rank officers of the military today are happy with the current state of affairs in the country?
Believe the Military of today are as pissed of at the politicians today as they were in 1966 and 1983.

saintrow1:
Keep crying oooo, you will have more to write up when he becomes the president, oloshi

He can never become president and he knows it. The military will reject him like they rejected MKO Abiola if he rigged himself into power (MKO won fair and square though). Tinubu is too power hungry and greedy.

trutharena:
Caption this!

That security man at the back Tayo Ayinde who was the CSO to Tinubu when he was governor.

That same man is now the current Chief Of Staff to Sanwoolu.

Give it Asiwaju, he keep turning men into leaders!

Is Tinubu a monitoring spirit? Can't Governor SanwoOlu appoint his own chief of staff?

So who will Tayo Ayinde be receiving instructions from - Tinubu or Sanwoolu?

GreatAxeMan:
Jesus has an uncreated existence that is not of this earth, so that rule does not apply to Him!

Jesus DID NOT begin to exist 2000 years ago in Bethlehem. He merely went from the heavenly realm to an earthly, physical life as a human being in order to fulfill the scripture which prophesied about his advent.

So you mean Jesus did not know what he was talking about when he made that emphatic statement.

GreatAxeMan:
Bros I'm getting disappointed with you. This is not rocket science!

Why is the Messiah referred to as Mighty God and Eternal Father even in your own New World Translation of Isaiah 9: 6?

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Why did Jesus himself say in Matthew 23:9
"And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven"?

ifiokjohn:
Lol. One of the reason I don't believe in Muhammad is because he believes Christ is nothing but a prophet when everything in the Bible points to the contrary on way Christ is more than a prophet. He can say Christ is not GOD I'll believe but to say he is a prophet only is clear dillusion.
From many of the Bible verses that talks about Christ it is shown this man beginning has been from before time eternity. And you want me to believe a person like that is only but an ordinary prophet. I laugh

It's an issue of seeing what you want to see. The Christians see Jesus Christ in every verse of the Bible. The Jews does not even acknowledged Jesus in any verse of the Bible,while the Muslims see Jesus as a prophet in the Bible.

raumdeuter:
I don't agree. As long as its consensual and you are not directly reporting to the other person. There is no need to resign.
Just disclose so that you wont be in a position to appraise the other person and cause a conflict of interest
I see no reason why a person in Sales cannot have a consensual relation with someone in Engineering
People spend a significant part of their lives at work and thats where they make connections

To me it's wrong having a sexual relationship with a staff in the same office. If it's the same company but different offices, it's still acceptable. But in the same office space or even building is unethical. Sexual relationships brings along with it lots of emotional baggage and complications. There is no way it will not affect performance and the way other staff relate to the two lovers.

Reasons employers demand disclosure is so that one partner can be moved into another department or office to avoid distractions.

light099:
A large part of the world already looking upon events same time, for example football, through internet and other means.

Large part is a relative term.
Close to 1 billion of the world is without electricity from not to talk of phone or TV.


Even if everyone has phone and TV, still half of the world would be asleep at any particular time. Then it's virtually impossible for everyone to tune into the same event or program given difference in language, interests and time.
The whole most watched live event in history was princess Diana's burial watched by 2 billion people world wide. At that time, that's still less than 30% of the world population.

Ddokie:
Nice.

The Bible (about 2k years old) predicted that a day will come when the whole world can look upon a spot at the same time.

And for three and a half days, all peoples, tribes, languages, and nations will stare at their bodies (Rev 11:9).

Science is powerful, God is supreme.

The whole world can never look upon the at the same time.
Because the world is a sphere.

Ekealterego:
Blame Yoruba movies. From time immemorial, the English Nollywood movies never for once glorified the ritualist nor have they ever ever portrayed them in a negative light. NEVER! Rather they glorify the pastor or church and the ritualist ends up in a bad way with devastating consequences.
Where are you people getting all these your jargons from.
Hollywood humanize witches, vampires etc, which should even be give a worse outcome.

It is the Yoruba movies that glorify juju and ritual killing. People should start dealing with things specifically and stop blaming the wrong people.

Again, these ritual killings have been a part of you people for a long time.

Hollywood doesn't glamorise witches and vampires. They don't present them as means of obtaining riches. Most of the time they are used in the setting of an ancient or fantasy world, which you cannot relate with in today's world. It is usually a reminder of when Europe or America was in the dark ages where superstition ruled people's minds.

Nollywood presents witches as being still relevant and beneficial in today's world.

holuwajobar:
well I support your points.... But I feel ritual has always been happening even before Nollywood..... Nollywood is just trying to curb the situation by always having a bad ending for any ritualist in the movie....

But still, I agree with you

Bad endings dont discourage people as long as the glamour and enjoyments are shown to be attainable. Showing the horrors of aids victims don't discourage pornography watchers from having unprotected sex.

omoalaafin:
It is wrong for them to do that. You dare not try that with my kid. Some kids may already be vaccinated and would not need their vaccination. My 2 year daughter for instance has her a photocopy of her vaccination card in her schoolu. Schools need to be careful so these people don't put them in trouble. They should not bow to any intimidation. Parents must always be informed.

So you see, this is more a failure of governance rather than put the blame on the school or health workers. The vaccinations should be better managed by the federal or state government.

holuwajobar:
So Nollywood is going to take the blame

A huge portion of the blame.

Plays, books and movies dictate the aspirations and directions of a society.
Ancient Roman plays are always about conquest and war, hence Rome ended up a huge empire always at war.

Sci fi US movies (Hollywood), TV series and books of the 60s and seventies were about incredible scientific feats - space travel, wireless communication, powerful computers, artificial intelligence, human like robots, etc. Today all these aspirations has been met.

Nigerian movies and stories from the 80s and 90s were about making money rituals, yahoo yahoo ( I go chop your money), run girls (prostitution) and poor girl marrying rich man. All these are the aspirations of an average Nigerian youth today.

dominique:
I hardly watch movies, has any Nollywood movie portrayed how a ritual killer lived happily ever after? Do they end well at the end of such movies? As far as I know, Nollywood movies tries to discourage people from going into ritual killings, maybe people choose not to watch till the end. Musical videos on the other hand pushes these youths to indulge in despicable things to make money. When youths vibe to music like; if you no get money hide your face or if you no get money wetin you gain etc, they're indirectly pressured into making this money by all means. Music industry has caused more damage to the youths mentality than Nollywood ever did it ever will.

Does showing destructive effects of drugs discourage people from seeking the benefits?

holuwajobar:
The same Nollywood also shows that people who commit such heinous acts almost always end up dead or mad, or some truly tragic thing occurs to them. Do those people not watch till the end of the movie?


Did you intentionally ignore this part in the person comment or you just want to sound brilliant??

As long as Nollywood shows and proved that money rituals/human sacrifice works and the wealth can be enjoyed for sometimes, many people are ready to take their chances with the negative side effects. Every is told that all money rituals has series negative consequences, that doesn't discourage people from still attempting it.

deepwater:
You people would leave the crux of the matter that has rampage the land to drag on Nollywood!

Ritual is not getting worse, it is getting filmed!!!

are u saying you all belioeved that Google sh.i.t story those boys were telling about learning how to behead someone for rituals online from google?

if u all are serious at all, demand to know the priest who instructed that gore event to happen and as well the BIG MAN who may have ordered a sacrifice be made for his/her selfish ambitions.

i still do not beleive those 4 fellas acted in isolation !

False. Ritual killings , particularly for wealth is getting worse. Even pastors have gotten in on the fad to increase church membership.

Ritual murders then was for traditional/ cultural purposes for certain ceremonies. Nowadays ritual murders are done for money or to obtain political power.

Those days it is rare to hear of missing/kidnapped children for money ritual purposes. Nowadays we hear children kidnapped for rituals on a regular basis.

I agree with the OP that Nollywood (and Pentecostalism) plays a huge role in making people desperate to make quick money at all cost.

KillamanJoe:
Bro, don't allow any child to be vaccinated in your school o. Some kids react badly to vaccine and might develop fever or other side effects. What you can do is tell the parents to ensure they vaccinate their child either at home or at the hospital. I remember those days. The workers go house to house, discuss with the parents then vaccinate their children. Not one random women that decides to tear off her data page to prevent any communication whatsoever. Be careful ND remember you are liable if anything happens to those kids. Regardless of whether or not your intentions were good.

Not some kids, most vaccines causes fever and other sides effects. You are advice to give children that react badly pain relievers and analgesics to ease ease the pain or fevers, which often last for a couple of days.

This is more reason parents to must be informed before giving their children vaccines.

Even though the sides effects are often mild, it is nothing compared to the sufferings of the actual disease.

yomi007k:
Please let us be logical in this situation.


The health worker is trying to prevent an outbreak of polio which if it happens will cause so much problems than we already have in this country.

I think the school should be closed down.

I wonder why some people want to put the rest of humanity at risk for stupid reasons - religious or conspiracy theory. Vaccines had help humanity eliminate some deadly diseases like Small pox, chicken pox, yellow fever. If not for a very few backwards countries like Nigeria polio would have been eradicated from the surface of the earth.

Though the health workers were going over board with their attempt to vaccinate the school children, I can understand their frustrations. They are not doing it for selfish or diabolical reasons, but are angry at people who refuse to have their children vaccinated. They don't possess the power to force vaccines on children, it the government that can mandate that. But it's very important to give children all the required vaccinations.

As an example. One of my workers did not come to work yesterday because their 3 year baby has measles. It was so bad that the baby was hospitalized that's after trying all kinds of traditional remedies like 7 keys. When I inquired if the baby was fully vaccinated, he said no. I was really angry. I was angry that the negligent parents are putting not just the child at risk, but the whole society.

JaroMan:
My dear, there’s no plan to stop South East because if you want to stop them, you will stop yourself. That’s why Tinubu camp has remained silent on South East while Atiku camp is begging. Go and read The PDP report on 2023 presidential elections. The team chaired by gov of Bauchi said that only two zones should be assuaged: South East and North East.
In APC, the hierarchy have finally had their way on consensus candidate. Tinubu camp have kicked against it, but there’s nothing they can do. Because if the East doesn’t vote in 2023, which can easily be achieved through IPOB sit-at-home, it will be a serious problem.
The plan is to either give Amaechi the ticket or Ogbonnaya Onuh.
Igbos will never vote a northerner. It will never happen in 2023. The worst is, no election.
But just be assured that none of Tinubu or Osibanjo shall be on the ticket.

I think Amaechi will be a compromise to the South East and Igbos. He is the only igbo I know the north will support, given the favour he has done to the north as transport minister and his popularity among northern governors during the time of Jonathan. Remember he won the chairmanship of the Governors forum with mainly northern votes against Jonathan's northern candidate.

But then will the Igbos and south east support Amaechi. He is viewed as a traitor among core Igbos.

VULCAN:
Even you do not exist!

You are the figment of someone's imagination.

But you are discussing with him directly and he is responding without any intermediary.
He can even present himself physically or through photos if the need be.

yemmit90:
Who is promoting quick and instant acquisition of wealth? Aliens or citizens?

I will try to be as brief as possible. There are 3 major factors that shapes humans life in their social settings.

1. Family

2. Peer groups

3. Society.

* FAMILY- if every parent preach or inculcate contentment, hardwork, humility and patience into the life of their offspring from inception, they will likely take this mentality to their peers.

* PEER GROUP - Since these children has already being made to believes in aforementioned attitudes, there is likelihood they will channel their productive energy toward more productive vices that will aid their development and that of society at large.

* SOCIETY - let me use this simple analogy, a man was born, he first know his mother, father, his immediately siblings,and other relatives. This is a foundation upon which society is built. Whatever a child acquired (good or bad) from his/her family and peer groups that he/she will bring to a larger society. Society in turn can modify its inhabitants if the foundation of its entire setup is faulty. For instance, people tend to behave well and abide by the rule of law if the society is guarantee them of better future, but that doesn't cancel the fact that society and its ruling apparatus emanated or start from the family settings.

You are absolutely correct. But you failed to list those who shape the values of the parents. So number 1 should be religious spiritual or moral leaders. They determine and shape the values of the parents and thus the society.

Priests and spiritual leaders have been shaping the values of societies from time immemorial. From ancient Sumaria to Babylon, from Ancient Egypt to Rome. Remember Christian was promoted and forced on the Roman Empire by Constantine for political reasons.

When priests become greedy and preach crass materialism by encouraging parents to acquire wealth without minding the moral source, then the parents pass this same attitude to their children, who in turn pass this to their peers and society at large.

In the old Testament Bible you will find priests and prophets hammering on the importance of maintaining the moral fabric of the society, Sometimes against powerful and hostile kings.

DeepSight:
So even as an atheist, you believe in this?

There are several shades of atheists as there are theists. The one thing binding atheists is a lack of a personal God or Gods in human form, or any other form directing our affairs and that of the universe.

yemmit90:
The first and basic unit of every society is family, as long as this basic element is not properly guild and nurtured, society will continue to see a serious menace like this. The west we are trying copying their style of family units has lay down working social systems that improve or support human development.

The mind of every new born child is plain, null and void, it is what you write there that a child built upon to become an adult. This is where the role of good parenting is vital in development of a child.

All the social vices you see today, are the result of dysfunctional family system in Nigeria.

How can we have a functional family system when what is promoted is quick or instant acquisition of wealth and not strong family values like love, honesty and integrity.

DMerciful:
If you're not mischievous, you won't be focusing on GEJ when Bubu is at the twilight of his administration. The focus should be what has Bubu and APC achieved to warrant asking Nigerians to continue with APC at the center!

I was expecting this from the usual suspects - Diversion and distraction. That why I preempted you guys in my response. Read it again and respond appropriately.

Awoleesu:
Now I understand you.
Sorry, I do not intend to drag you into an English grammar class...

So, if I understand you clearly, people should face the repercussions (punishment) of their actions (crime, sin ...) strictly under the law right? No cover-ups under any religious umbrella! Abi?

Gbam! That's the way the universe works - action and reaction are always equal and opposite. We should all learn to face the consequences of our actions.
If Sammy Okposu had that mind set, he would not have commited adultery or gone in raw without protection.

Our conscience should be a valve that helps us filter good from evil. Certain religions destroys that filter and we unable to differentiate good from evil. That's why yahoo boys and ritualists go to do Thanksgiving for wealth acquired through causing others pains. Their conscience has been deadened.

Awoleesu:
Can you please recoin the boldened?

How do you interpret the use of synonymous words repeatedly in the same sentence without intending an oxymoron?

*reason
*rational(size)
*justify

This is not an English class, and I wanted the convey a specific message the best way I could.

What I meant was that some religions have specific reasons to justify their crimes. Like - Muslims can kill non believers (infidels) and obtain reward in heaven.

Christians can give their life to Christ and all previous sins like murder, rape, etc are wiped clean.

otipoju:
The seeds where sown back in the early days Pentecostal churches. Before then the emphasis was on righteousness and being a good neighbour.

It started when your Pastors started to worship Mammon. Saying cars and houses are the immediate rewards of serving God.

It started with Nollywood always casting wealthy men as poor guys who did rituals and suddenly became rich.

It started when some woke musicians started singing " ibile" , blood money and celebrating fraudulent riches in their music video without any real resistance from the government or clergy.

All these helped shaped the mindset of Nigerians and
social media has amplified everything. And evil became a acceptable in the society.

Now you cant eat or sleep over at your own brother's house with peace of mind. Even hotels ate not safe anymore.

Indeed righteousness exalts a nation and sin is a reproach to any nation.

Gbam! I need not add more.

Pentecostalism and Hollywood conspired to destroy the moral fabric of the society. Coincidentally, both started flourishing at the same time (early 80s).

EMIOMOADEOYE:
Even though it's not required for all sins, fornication ranks among the top sins that require a confession.

And even when making the confession it is not required to go public public.

There are leaders in the Church or congregation.

Those are the ones you are to meet.

Sammy Okposu here is just trying to pull a PR stunt

Imagine fornication ranks among the top sins according to you where rape, murder, stealing, etc dey?