₦airaland Forum

Pandev:
Emefiele had better run to Buhari, he's the one who can save him right now. Him recent policies dey choke politicians for neck

Na only politicians Emefiele's policies dey choke for neck? You mean his policies no dey choke you for neck also? E be like say, you get where you dey buy dollars at N450 and you get a full bundle of the new naira for house, or you dey abroad where him policies no reach you.

Take it from me, we will still be using the old naira notes by this time next year. Yesterday, my bank gave me crispy new old N1000 naira notes. The N1000 naira notes were dated 2022 and signed by Emefiele, meaning it was freshly minted.

The NGF said the discussion with Mr Emefiele on Thursday promises to foster participation and dialogue between various stakeholders including governments and civil society organisations.

Is this not putting the cart before the horse? Should Emefiele not have fostered participation and dialogue between various stakeholders including governments and civil society organisations before implementing the policy?

What participation and dialogue is the NGF expecting again after the Naira has been changed and a one month deadline was given for the withdrawal of the old notes and replacement by the new ones?

bayocanny:
Golden!

The Aburi Accord was an insult to the sensibility of Nigerians back then. The accord is federalistic feudalistic in character.

Corrected

bayocanny:
You're not being fair, your opinions about Aburi Accord is logically incorrect.

Tell them to show us they sign accord, they temporarily behave like they are dumb, blind and deaf. They will never show but just keep parotting " Gowon and the Regions signed an accord, and gowon reneged on the sign accord "

Fejoku:
So you still believe that Nigeria with any sort of structure will survive? As a matter of possibility, do you think you can get back regionalism under a parliamentary system?

Nigeria just have to survive, else it will spell disastrous consequences on all of us. Nigeria is like an arrangee marriage of strange bedfellows. The marriage had been very tumultuous and painful, sometimes abusive. But, it have produced many children and numerous grand children. The family fortune has been so interwoven and intertwined and it is very difficult determining who owns what and the contributions of each member of the family. Such a divorce though possible would be extremely difficult and tumultuous. It cannot be achieved by fiat, or by threats and violence. It can only be achieved through the civil and political process.

I think a new political structure akin to parliamentary system can be achieved. It will take sincerity on the part of the political class. Whether igbo, fulani, yoruba or igala. The political class is just too insincere and manipulative. They are the ones that don't want Nigeria to unite, else yet lose their relevance.

Fejoku:
Do you know the people present at that meeting? All the military administrators(governors) of the four regions were present at that meeting. You can't change history.

The Military Governors were appointees of the Head of State. How can they be given the authority to negotiate the sovereignty of Nigeria. The sovereignty of Nigeria should belong to its people and not a few select appointees of a Military head of state.

Fejoku:
In conclusion, Yakubu Gowon and Prince Akenzua had their way by bye passing previously signed agreement at Aburi. Today's Nigeria is the legacy of their own decision.

The problem with you guys is that you don't listen to others. You only listen to your own thoughts and believe every other person must agree to your own thoughts and needs.

It was not only Gowon that quarrelled with the un(signed) aburi accord, southern minorities including those of the Eastern Nigeria that you guys intended to incorporate into your biafra were vehemently against the accord. Furthermore some prominent military officers were also against the accord. It would have been unfair for only igbos and a few igbo related tribes through blackmail and threats of war on Nigeria, to rail road Nigeria unconstitutionally into a loose confederation. Gowon only initially succumbed to the blackmail but on getting back to Nigeria had to backpedal due to the strength of the opposition. I am grateful you guys have not started calling me names like fulani slave, traitor and other unsavory insults.

Two questions for you. Do you still agree to the structure suggested by Prince Akenzua as at the time even without the benefit of foresight?
Do you think that there's a need for restructure or outright dissolution of Nigeria? Give your reasons.

I don't think Akenzua suggested any structure. All he pointed out was that a loose confederation is the same thing as succession. And the minorities in Eastern Nigeria along with other Regions were not prepared for secession at that time.

I think we should go back to the regional and parliamentary system bequeathed to us by the Britisht that was truncated by the Nzeogwu led coup. It allowed each region to spend its own resources to develop its region. That was the period of the fastest development in Nigeria.

gidgiddy:
All 4 military Governors of the time were in Aburi, and all 4 signed the agreement. Gowon also signed. A portion of the agreement stipulated that the Aburi accord was binding "only for the period of military rule"

After signing an agreement in front if the then President of Ghana, Gowon came back and started rejecting the agreement. What Gowon should have done is negotiate another agreement if he wasnt happy with what he signed

To make matters worse, Gowon enacted Decree 14 and Decree 15, in flagrant violation of the agreement he signed

Decree 14 abolished all 4 Regions and created 12 new states to replace them. Decree 15 removed resource control and fiscal responsibility and placed it in the hands of the Federal government

Ojukwu had no other choice but to declare Biafra

When a signed agreement is violated, there is always trouble, and the person who broke the agreement bears responsibility for that

You are just behaving like a pre-recorded audio that's meant to play a certain sound bite no matter the fact. You mind is already made up on your narrative without even bothering to present any evidence.

I asked for a signed copy of the agreement you don't even bother discussing it.

I told you that the Aburi meeting was a power sharing agreement purely military officers to prevent the impending war, you pretend you did not see it.

I presented the fact that civilians from the other Regions rejected the accord, you become oblivious.

Not only did civilians reject the aburi accord, some senior military officers who were bypassed in the power sharing appointments like T.Y. Danjuma and Murtala Muhammed rejected the accord.

See more of what really transpired below. I hope your mind can grasp new information.

gidgiddy:
Well you better read about the Aburi agreement because the military Governors of all 4 Regions signed the agreement on behalf of their respective Regions

Parliament did not agree to Gowon abolishing the 4 Regions and creating states, but Gowon did anyway. Today we have 36 states, all created by Nigerian military rulers

All four regions did not sign anything. What really happened at Aburi was that the military hierarchy came together in Ghana to work out a power sharing agreement in order to avoid an impending war. Forget that the military had just appointed some of its members as military Governors as part of the power sharing agreement as a fall out from the January 1966 coup. It had no civilian or constitutional backing.

I have searched the Internet for the actual signed agreement and the signatures on the agreement, I am yet to find one. All I am able to see is the communique of the meeting. Obviously, you can't expect the country to be governed by a communique. A true copy of such agreement should have been kept for posterity.

Now, when the military agreed communique termed accord got back to Nigeria, most politicians particularly in the South rejected it. Ken saro wiwa was strongly opposed to it, because lumps them politically them in with the igbos, and he fears domination by the igbos.

Prince Akenzua wrote a memo to Gowon stating their opposition to the accord. There was so much opposition to the accord from Mid Western and Eastern Nigeria (minorities) that Gowon called for a meeting in Benin to discuss the accord. The accord was overwhelming rejected by all other Regions except the Eastern region that failed to attend the meeting.

How can you then say the accord was signed by all 4 Regions?

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gidgiddy:
A signed agreement is a signed agreement and valid in law. Whatever party that breaks a binding agreement is the cause of whatever trouble that emanates

The Aburi accord had no legal standing? The other regions did not agree to it, the parliament did not agree to it. Ojukwu and Gowon could not just sign Nigeria's sovereignty away.

Kobonaire2023:
The first republic was very corrupt, but that did not justify the coup

I disagree. Yes there were a few corrupt politicians like my tribesman Okotie-eboh, Akintola and maybe maybe Fani Kayode. But most of the politicians were honest, a did a lot of good things, developments in their regions. I could not think of one Northerner Eastern leader accused of corruption. Most politicians of that era died in poverty, no huge bank accounts, no properties scattered all over the place and no extravagant lifestyles.

gidgiddy:
His coup is not what started the war, his coup happened 18 months before the war started

What caused the war was Gowon's refusal to honour the Aburi agreement he signed

The Aburi accord was not enforceable. It would only have delayed the war by a few months, a year at most, and by then the igbos would have been more prepared and difficult to defeat.

Gowon hurriedly signed the accord in order to avoid war without understanding the implications, until it was pointed out by Akenzua (the future Oba of Benin).

gidgiddy:
Thats the nature of military coups, they sometimes claim lives of the existing political leaders

What was the justification for the military coup? The coupists were unable to prove the corruption they alleged.

gidgiddy:
Okpanam is an Igbo town on the outskirts of Asaba, capital of Delta State. Years ago, the indigenes erected a statue in memory of Chukwuma Nzeogwu, their famous son who led Nigeria's first coup

People of Okpanam still believe that Nzeogwu led more than a coup, they believe he led a revolution

So they are Eulogizing someone who killed the paramount traditional ruler of another tribe without any valid reason? A problem of the Saudana account revealed he had only £60 in his bank account at the time of his death. Is that how to lead a revolution?

As you know, those that live by the sword, die by the sword.

helicoptarr:

Location of Heaven:
Look up into the sky with your eyes, telescope, Hubbe Space Telescope, James Webb Telescope or any more powerful lenses, what do you see?

If eventually, man is able to see the end of the universe, that very end is our side of the fence between our dimension and Heaven. Take a moment to sink that in.

Why is God is always running from human knowledge.

In prehistoric times God or rather the Gods was residing high in the mountains
After mountain climbers were able to conquer the mountains, God ran above the clouds. When man started building planes and balloons that went beyond the clouds, God ran away to outer space. When man built rockets and conquered outer space, God ran away to the edge of the universe. Man now built Hubble space telescope and James Webb Telescope to look at the edge of the universe. God has now ran beyond the edge of the universe.

What happens if man is somehow able to look beyond the edge of the universe? Will he finally find God there or God will run away again to beyond all universes?

Rashdimuh:
What is your basis for this any stats

World Bank, IMF, UN and all other global financial institutions.

Nigerian pastor can die because of tithes and offerings. In fact Nigerian churches were set up primarily because of tithes and offerings. I just pray they grow some conscience and repent like Benny Hinn. Who has renounced the prosperity gospel.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-NttDrx596c&feature=shares

orisa37:
TO SAVE A TENTH OF YOUR REWARDS, RESULTS, EARNINGS AND REVENUES FOR GOD'S BLESSINGS, INCREASES AND MIRACLES.

So which increases (well apart from fraudulent ones) are you and Nigerians getting inspite of all the tithes Christians are paying since the mid 80's? In fact the reverse is the case and we are getting poorer and poorer over the years.

Jossymekoos10:
I will appreciate if you explain more sir
Thanks

Read jomo Kenyatta's quote below, then replace the land with our minds.

galadima77:
A place for the righteous

Let me shake some table this morning.

If heaven is a place for the righteous, why then did Satan and his numerous followers become unrighteous? Why was then a war in heaven? What guarantee is there than another rebellion will not rise up again given that God is an absolute dictator.

Dtruthspeaker:
It's crazy that the people complaining about tithe, it is not their money that is used for tithe o, yet see hala and wailing!

People are complaining because the new age tithe doctrine contributes to the moral and social decadence we find ourselves in today. People engage in all types of criminal activities to pay tithes and pastors encourage them more. Most Nigerians pay tithes first for restitution for their crimes and then to bless their criminal activities to be able to successfully carry out more crimes. Yahoo boys pay tithes, thieving and murderous politicians pay tithes, kidnappers pay tithes, fake drug sellers killing people silently pay tithes and even ashawo or runs girls pay tithes. Pastors (supported by their sheepish followers) don't care how the tithe money is obtained, all they want is the money to be able to live extravagant lives.

Rashdimuh:
Without giving it will be difficult to receive, Tithe is not a tool for salvation but it's surely the one for blessing simply the principle of life

Nigeria is obviously the highest paying tithes countries of the world (at least southern Nigeria), why then are the citizens among the poorest?

maasoap:
APC said that they don't want anything to do with Arise TV, that Arise TV should continue with their bias

If APC truly doesn't want anything to do with Arise TV, they should deregister as a political party and register as a social party. As long as APC wants to govern Nigerians, they have to tolerate Nigerian press, bias or partial.

adeola1097:
Imagine saying It was meant to be recorded and posted later, So their photoshop experts can edit all the gaffes out.
The electorates are wiser now and 2023 would prove a lot of doubters wrong.

How this statement makes sense to a sane human being is beyond me.

Bayo Onanuga: For clarity, the Tinubu-Shettima campaign is not against Arise TV covering its events. The Lagos NESG dialogue was not meant for TV live coverage. It was to be recorded and shown later. Other TV houses did not breach the rule, except Arise News. And it was done by stealth. Why?

habsydiamond:
These banks are not reliable anymore. Someone withdrew 4M in an account that 200k is the maximum transaction limit and u are telling her that 800k is all she can get from her 4M.. who does that.. all I see here is inside job oo.. I think its time to resort back to piggy boxes oo.. with kolo ur money will be safe.. no sms, atm charges and others

That's why I still blame Emefiele and CBN. They are pushing a cashless policy with no protection whatsoever for Nigerians. How can he expect Nigerians to trust digital transfers when N4 million can be withdrawn from your account without the bank being made to take responsibility. Abroad where digital transactions policy is promoted. Any unauthorised transactions is refunded by the banks.

Tareq1105:
Okay, when next people gather for a program, carry your camera and microphone and go join them. If they ask for your invite, quote the same section you quoted above for them and when next we see you share your experience with me. I'm done with you and your foolishness.

You guys are so dishonest, it's scary. We are discussing about an electioneering campaign of a presidential candidate who wants to govern all Nigerian and all of Nigeria and you are talking off-point about a programme. When Tinubu was not a presidential candidate did you see Arise go to any of Tinubus programmes?

If Tinubu and his supporters can be so intolerant to opposition before even winning the elections, I wonder how you guys will if Tinubu becomes president. Even Abacha and Buhari as Military dictator was not that intolerant.

Gandrova:
There are standard and procedures for coverage of events. Must Arise TV be permitted? Na by force!

Yes. Arise must cover the political campaign of all presidential and even governorship candidates. That's their constitutional duty.

The press is the only profession that its freedom is spelt out in the Nigerian constitution.

Section 22 of the Constitution states:
“The press, radio, television and other agencies of mass media shall at all times be free to uphold the fundamental objectives contained in this chapter (i.e. Chapter 2 of the Constitution) and uphold the responsibility and accountability of the government to the people.”

Echoban:
Ure only assuming bro. Journalist are trained to b neutral same way national TV's. It's unprofessional to b biased in ur call of public duty. Individual has the right, hence the voting democratic bias, not in journalism so as to avoid stories of ban like this. Don't u think it LL back fire if BAT or whoever ure against finally wins the election, u stand a risk of been Politically silenced.

No human is completely neutral when it comes to politics and definitely no journalist. All media houses around the world is known for their political bias, except in dictatorships like Russia, China and North Korea.

BAT winning the elections does not mean he should be hostile towards opponents and non supporters. That's petty and means he is not temperamental enough to govern a diverse country like Nigeria.

Okoroawusa:
I see so much ignorance on this thread. If you want a media company to cover your event you invite and pay them. Depending on the type of event a media company can charge you as much as millions of naira to cover your event. That's where they make their money. Even interviews are paid for.
On this particular incident, Arisetv wasn't invited nor authorized as one of the media companies to cover the event. Why steal in like a thief in the night?

This was not an owanbe party or wedding party where invitation is necessary for attendance. This was political event, a campaign event that any interested Nigerian should be able to attend. This is a registered media organization that's intetested in covering Tinubu's political campaign.

Tinubu is showing signs of an intolerant dictator who will make an enemy of the free press and of non supporters.

Echoban:
TVC, NTA, Channels have been covering his campaign live. Arise only air falsehood, propaganda borne out of their bias motive but will never air good abt BAT, always the 1st for bad news. Same thing await them once BAT becomes president. They better pray BAT doesn't win Sha because that will be their end. A national TV should b apolitical but arise choose to b intentionally otherwise. I love how they chased them out.

I don't know about NTA because few people watch the channel, but I do watch TVC sometimes because that's my mums favourite channel. I have no seen many live coverage of live Tinubu's campaign events. Please provide links to this particular event that AriseTV was barred from covering.

Echoban:
So it is a constitutional right to b bias. See what ure justifying..

Yes it is a fundamental constitutional right to be bias. Read the part of the constitution that says freedom of speech, thought and association.