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Satan should swallow his pride, ask for forgiveness and save us this stress.

wisdomiskey:
Madam, no need to lie here.
You can still express yourself proudly with your "f" identity showing - pretending to be a man never adds credibility to a post

Ok. I think I'm done with the chat. It's fast degenerating into the normal Nairaland childish rants.

Enjoy your week.

What's the setting?

wisdomiskey:
So why did you ask a gender bashing question yourself?

When I disagree with women's perspective, it's logical. When I disagree with men's perceptive, it's gender bashing. Dude, I'm a man and I'm wasn't asking gender bashing questions. I was only disagreeing with the idea of men looking for submissive women instead of someone loving/caring. Like I said, I'd also disagree with the idea of women looking for rich men instead of someone caring and loving, and I'd have pointed that out in the same manner if this thread was about that.

wisdomiskey:
Why are women always looking for rich and masculine men?

Why do you guys believe anyone who points out something wrong with a gender's perspective is automatically supporting the other gender? Everything is not gender war, and there'll be no progress if all you care about is pointing out the wrongs of the opposite gender while making light of yours. Women looking for rich men to marry are not exempted from my criticism. When I see any thread supporting, I'll be sure to voice out. This thread has a subject and I only commented based on that subject. I'm not one of the ML men who spend so much energy making women look like the devil or pieces of trash while the men are always right. I try to say it as I see it bearing in mind I could be wrong sometimes.

angelfallz:
Another person that does not know the meaning of submission.
In the context of the lawyer, he is talking about an illiterate, so therefore there would be some things he may have to teach her.

Dude, "submission" is a master/slave word. The right word is "respectful". Only control freaks or power drunk men go around looking for fellow humans to submit to to them. You see I didn't argue about the word "teachable" cause like you said, he is looking for an illiterate (this leads to another broad discussion but I'll leave that so as not to appear incorrigible).

Lol... anything Nigeria does, everyone will start cursing the country

Glad governments are being proactive now.

Jashub:
This is wisdom. But fools will despise this and starting littering this thread with new forms of stupidity

Nobody has commented otherwise, you're already fighting and calling names. Why is it so impossible to argue onhere without the fang baring? People who have different opinions aren't always enemies.

@OP: why are men always looking for "submissive teachable women"? Are you marrying a baby or a fellow adult? What exactly makes men assume the default role of the teacher? Or are they just looking for someone who they can teach to ignore their excesses, someone dumb and docile? Wouldn't you feel 'alone' in the marriage if you had such a wife? To me the expression "submissive teachable" should be used at the place of work between employers and employees. Using it between couples suggests a lot. I believe the word 'respectful' is sufficient. And yeah, I'd also want a respectful wife who will worth my respect as well.

Lol

As expected.

Omihanifa:
So nah this small Cat fish way fit into a plastic bowl wan capsize a whole canoe

Hahaha... I was wondering the same.

HarunaWest:
I need to sign a contract as well ooo..You sabi Devil Workshop here?

No branch in Nigeria, bro. Nigeria's economy is not good enough to attract foreign investors, you know.

Hhmm... All these contracts, where do they see this devil?

**Edited**
I just read them all, mostly speculations. They all existed at a time when many scientific explorations were considered "devilish" or "anti religion". So most of these guys were either scientists or artists who smartly played on people's intelligence to get their much needed fame. Attention seeking is an integral part of the entertainment industry and understandably so. The story of the guy that bought a house that once belonged to another controversial figure and then turned into a writer of how the house is haunted is a classic example of riding on the waves of an existing fame. Smart one.

The sad ones are those tortured into saying they had a pact with the devil during the witch hunting era.

Many reasons actually.

First, men tend to present whatever they like or do as "acceptable" or, at least, "not that bad" while they police other 'genders'. Their dressing is unquestionable. When they flirt, it's a man's thing. When a boy misbehaves, boys will always be boys. When they cheat, it's not a big deal. Etc. Don't get me wrong, this is not a gender fight, I'm only trying to torchlight the 'natural' source of men's attitude towards effeminate men. And the point I'm trying to make is that the thought of two ladies doing it is somewhat pleasant to most men. So lesbianism somehow seems to be "more manageable". On the other hand, the idea of two men holding hands is already repulsive to a typical homophobic Nigerian man. Therefore, gay guys would probably have a special location in hell where the temperature is highest. I really don't know the disposition of ladies towards gay guys in Nigeria. But does it really matter? Like I said, it's a man's world.

Second, it could also be as a result of insecurity. Like we know, sexuality is a spectrum and people are not always gay or straight. We all fall somewhere on the spectrum. For some men who are not on the far end of heterosexuality, the fact that they sometimes slightly admire a cute guy (even without any amorous feelings) constitute a source of worry as they fear that might hurt their masculine ego. They fear their own sexuality might be questioned if they don't attack these gay guys for all to see. So they go all the way to criticize/hate on gay or effeminate guys just to convince themselves (and maybe the world) they don't roll that way. It's more about them and their fragile masculinity than the person they're baring fangs at.

Third, it could be as a result of "bandwagonism". Everyone wants to be called alpha and if the so called alpha men hate effeminate guys, well... why not? For this category of men, it's not about personal convictions. Rather, it's about anything that would make them feel more like a member of the category of men they admire. You see them here asking questions like "guys, should I kiss her?", "should I go to her house or make her come to my house?", etc. They need manuals on how to exist and if the manual says they should hate effeminate guys, so be it. Anything to feel like a man.

Finally, you have the concept of nurture (probably the deep rooted one on the list). Boys grow up learning from the older ones it's not just unacceptable to do things like a lady but also unacceptable to tolerate or associate with people who do. We see such men saying "it's just disgusting" and nothing more. Well, anything we learn growing up is more like a religion, we don't always have the best logic to defend it but we'd stand by it nevertheless. Our parents trained us based on their understanding and that's OK. But we mustn't pass everything on cause we now have a better understanding. And it's not breaking away from home training, it's rather refining home training based on education. Even our parents did that. Their parents told them that when you lose a baby multiple times, it's probably "ogbanje". But they didn't teach us that part cause they learned about sickle cell. Likewise, we must not teach our kids to hate effeminate people cause we now know about hormones. Discriminating against such people is like discriminating against left handed people. We now know better.

The has been shared here a couple of times. Still inspiring nevertheless.

Holy masquerade!

Prolificgiant:
A 9 year old for that matter and many of his age mate in Nigeria dont even know what they call mouse. Check my signature If a need a land in Ogun State, shimawa to be precise

This has nothing to do with the guy's knowledge of computers. He probably doesn't know how to use a mouse too. This is clearly his parents' handiwork. The baby is only there to play with and give feedback on the toys. So instead of mounting pressure on your 9 year olds in Nigeria, concentrate on yourselves, the parents.

Officialgarri:
I've always shared my opinion that the mark of the beast as stated in the bible could possibly not be literally 666.

It could be a device with codes embedded in it and those codes might amount to 666 or whatever one could imagine.

But I don't think the mark 666 will be made obvious

If the mark is not made obvious such that those that accept it know exactly what they are accepting, then it's not allegiance anymore. And any supreme being that punishes you for unknowingly accepting a mark you didn't know it's meaning is not God. Y'all should stop this unnecessary use of fear to lure people. The world is scrambling for the vaccine and this is what Africans are discussing.

seunny4lif:
Yes, almost same system like the UK
Not much different expect Ireland is more cleaner than UK

Voilà ... thanks!

mamajaz:
Haaaaa...my own dey more expensive because it is more of where the rich guys retire to. Oh God!! You don't want me to cry right now. Notwithstanding, I love the serenity, my family is young too, it is a great place to raise kids. Like I still see some of the Brits around bending their knees slightly to great the older ones.

Crime rate is equally lower than the bigger areas.

I just dey use my money buy peace of mind oh.

Oh... I never thought it would be so. Well, you've got your priorities and I'm sure you thought about that carefully. Bon courage !

_{NB: Sorry, I don't know how to say 'bon courage' in English. It's an expression we use to wish someone more courage.}

Nairalanders. Everyone is suddenly trustworthy. Hehe...

dubbiskelly:
Ireland is not UK

I know, bro. I said people queue for bus in the UK. I was wondering if it's the same in Ireland.

CakesToolsOvens:
I like you already

Haha... I like you too!

mamajaz:
Both.

Like, I have a prepaid card that I just put credit on, tap the card and go. It can go according to the plans I want. I do the quarter yearly one.

Then, if the credit expires, I can pay in the bus with my credit or debit card and the driver will gimme a ticket.

Yes, I agree that location can be the influence on the queue in some places like London, I've seen long queues here and there especially while waiting for buses that go long distances.


I am on the countryside, no hustling and bustling of London. I don't like wahala.

Ok... that's cool. Countryside is probably much cheaper too.

mamajaz:
UK Queue isn't about number of people oh. It's just about orderliness. People that will put a bus that can occupy 70 passengers or more and you will only see 5 people scattered everywhere in the bus. I just go dey look them like...chaii these people dey waste fuel oh. Sometimes self, nah out of service go dey on the bus and dem no go pick any passenger.

I see. But I've also heard complains of cramped up buses during morning rush in England. Perhaps, it's a matter of location.

Yeah, the empty bus thing happens here in North America too. But then, isn't that why we pay so much tax? Lol.

Are you in England? Do you guys also pay with your cards on entering the bus or you have prepaid plans like we do?

MyGeneration:
You tell the driver where u are going, he types it and u pay with your card.

Some buses have already designated destinations so even without d driver pressing anything once u put ur card it gives receipt

Ok. Great. That's entirely different from what we have in North America.

papalsayer:
Presentation mater. That thing looks like a sacrifice. I wouldn't want to taste it.

Of course you wouldn't. I'm only saying we should just move on if we're not genuinely interested in what they have presented. We don't need to trash them. If you've lived outside your country, you shouldn't understand why it's necessary not to trash talk other people's cultures.

Atlas9:
The good natured yabbing is to be expected. It is not negative, the only issue with appreciating the cuisine of others via pictures is that there is no experience.... I had to live in Ibadan to appreciate ewa agoyin and amala / ewedu.

Lol... bro, we always deceive ourselves into calling these things "good natured yabbing". And then they hit Twitter and become an online war and before you know it, the flux is felt offline. If you've been to these African countries where Nigerians aren't liked that much, you'd surely see people whose only source of knowledge about Nigeria is the internet also hating cause of what you thought was "good natured yabbing" and you start wondering where the line should be drawn.

People take their places of origin, religions, etc. seriously and would jump at any opportunity to talk about these in a positive light. Your so-called "good natured yabbing" denies them that opportunity and puts them in a defensive position and sometimes, they have to attack to get even. This escalates quickly, and at that point, it could be hard telling exactly how good the nature of the yabbing is. Even if there's no remarkable aggression, bad blood is often the outcome. That's why it's as if African countries are just waiting for the other to have a problem so they can celebrate.

Food is part of culture and it often makes for a very interesting line of discussion where I live. Questions like: what is it made of? What is it eaten with? Is it expensive to prepare? What's the best time to eat it? Isn't this similar to...? Etc. are often used to show genuine interest in other people's way of life. If you're not genuinely interested, you can just move on. But trashing it is extremely dumb cause your food is also 'strange' to others. I personally believe it's like of true diversity in African countries that make Africans less tolerant. Just a thought.

Nuttella:
How? We should be eating their food?

Is that what you understood? Lol.

No, you don't know to eat their food. You just don't need to trash them. Food is part of culture and it often makes for a very interesting line of discussion where I live. Questions like: what is it made of? What is it eaten with? Is it expensive to prepare? What's the best time to eat it? Isn't this similar to...? Etc. are often used to show genuine interest in other people's way of life. If you're not genuinely interested, you can just move on. But trashing it is extremely dumb cause your food is also 'strange' to others.

I personally believe it's like of diversity in African countries that make Africans less tolerant. Just a thought.