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OP, welcome to 2020

chillychill:
@WoundedLamb I hope ure seeing dis

Yes. Terrible.

Sorry, remind me why I'm being mentioned.

n3xt:
Provide a solution.

SARS is not an independent body. They respond to authorities who in turn answer to the government. Killing their innocent family members will only make you a criminal (or even a terrorist) and when you're caught and killed, that would be justified. In fact, the suggestion is antediluvian to say the least. This is not 450BC. Instead of attacking the weak and defenceless women and kids in retaliation, launch an attack on your government. Hold the government responsible.

Arijude:
woundedlamb, your brain is really wounded.

What do y'all want me to say again? He said the way forward to start killing people who are related to SARS officers.

Watch and see how people will start celebrating this.

Lol... everybody asking if he's not an old man as if they don't know calling someone "old man" is disrespectful. I don't know about Wizkid and his tweets but let's support him if we want to without pretending we don't see the lady's logic.

PlayForFun:
With this your comment, you really think you are safe from the hands of the terrorists (SARS)?

Sorry, go and start killing... lol.

thesicilian:
Be calming down bro

But it's annoying when bloggers twist everything. Why don't we see it as corruption? Fake news (generally speaking) only makes people run around like headless fowls. Just see the guy below already reacting to the headline.

sammuell:
This girl na fool
She think say when she dey make her own
Laycon go dey sleep

She didn't say she has more money than Laycon. That would be out of place cause she does not know how much Laycon also got from fans and supporters. She only said she has made more than the 85m given to the winner.

PlayForFun:
Killing their families is the best option.... let us start making them cry too and feel pains. Unfortunately, Nigerian youths believe in BBNaija than fighting for their freedom. We all need to come together as one.

With this your comment, you really think you're better than those that watch BBN?

Hhm.. Nigeria is in trouble

But that wasn't a boastful statement. She didn't say she has made more money than Laycon. She said she got more money that the 85m the show gave to the winner and so it wasn't about the money anymore cause she actually wanted to win. Those are two different statements. And she took responsibility for her actions when she said no one cheated her since she was evicted for what she did. I don't know what's going on in BBN or what she did but misleading people is not blogging but corruption.

Reminds me of the other guy that used to say "my palé, my malé", the last season's winner. He released a song after the show, right? What's up with him?

Lol... hope he's all this to her as well.

Ausrichie:
The way he approached her was wrong, that is the problem, he could have just said it jokingly simple as ABC.

My thoughts as well. He made it look like she's got no opinion anymore seeing how he has helped her in the past. And that's a scary position nobody would like to be in. The name calling came too fast. Such a man can nag more than women.

Ausrichie:
The guy is so immature, chai. Just simply saying "you for do discount for my mama na" would have made her understand, unfortunately in life no matter how much you do for someone you are not entitled to everything from that person, he should have said it politely not charging her like she did something dubious to him.

Exactly! I'm not defending the lady but the guy was extremely immature in handling the situation. His approach only made the lady defensive

Korllami007:
K

Better.

passion007:
The American ladies were visiting Switzerland and this Uber driver straight up jumped into denigrating America and Trump. If you listen carefully, the lady is defending America, not so much Trump.
Because we are disillusioned with our country Nigeria, we can not claim to know how we would react if in this lady's shoes.

Again, this is the lady's account. We do not know the guy's story and that's why, if you read my first post again, I put in brackets "assuming the guy only criticized trump". I live in North America and they also take sides in other people's elections. And to me, it's just a matter of opinion since they can't vote. They also talk trash about other people's countries... even countries more civilized that the US. This is not to justify the guy if he really trash talked his client's country (it's pretty much unlike Uber drivers) but the girl doing a video, screaming and putting it online is very ridiculous to me cause if I did that each time an American trash talks Nigeria, I'd have been a social media celebrity by now.

Korllami007:
You win.
You can keep painting trash behavior with gold, that's your business.

Na the idiot guy wey spend money ontop girlfriend wey he supposed spend on his mother I blame.
The faster he knows that women don't reciprocate sacrifice or been nice, the better for him. Otherwise, women will keep showing him pepper.

I knew this was the direction this chat was going.. the women bashing team. Misogyny has so much clouded your thinking that you can no longer treate cases in isolation. It's about supporting one gender and not about logic. He got all those for her so he could call her names at will? The girl was totally put together throughout the chat but was only telling him to stop calling her names. That's the kind of girl who is willing to talk about things and move on. Whether she was right or not, the guy has zero skill on how to address issues. Zero.

passion007:
But the guy is a Nigerian living in Switzerland and educating Americans about their president. I hope you see why the lady is mad.

Did the video take place in Switzerland? If so, I have to first admit I didn't know that. Did he express his opinion on Trump? If so, everyone has an opinion on Trump given the American world power status. I think what matters here would be the mannerisms. The lady was a client and should be treated with utmost respect. But then again, she said he kept on apologising afterwards. Do you still think the video was necessary? Would you do the video if you were the lady?

Korllami007:
I laugh in different perspectives. The guy sold a phone of 60k for 48k to her brother and the guy has no communication issues or different perspectives when hr did it. But it's her turn to reciprocate just 1% of what the guy has done in her life, communcation issue and different perspectives spring up, that's why she couldn't do it. Orisirisi.

That's a trait of an ingrate. There is no two ways to it, stop painting it.

Oga, why are you bringing unrelated things together? The lady didn't even know the phone was sold cheaper than the actual price. To her, it was the normal price and she didn't bother talking about it then cause she wasn't expecting her boyfriend to do more than he'd be willing to do. There was no communication around that. The communication I'm talking about is the one we both read which obviously took place after she took money from the guy's mum. The guy came for a fight and not for a discussion. If that's how to address things your girlfriend does that you don't like, that's fine. I pray he finds someone who will never do what he doesn't like. As for the money, so many people would have collected it not because they are hungry or ingrates but because it doesn't make any difference to them. This is something that shouldn't be a deal breaker. Tell her you weren't expecting that and she will not do it next time. Go confrontational and she will be forced to defend herself.

SenecaTheYonger:
Just because you pay tax doesn't mean it's your country lmao. You don't have a choice than to obey the law of that country because you fear being deported back to your country. If e sure for you, don't pay tax naa.

Same pepole that pay tax in US will never consisder it in Nigeria. You can't run from a country like Nigerian, a whole NIGERIA and then be insulting (not criticizing) another man's land.

He never said it was his country. If America wants to forbid anyone from outside the US from criticizing Trump, let's bring that to the table. But saying some people should not criticize him cause they are from certain countries is bias. That guy is more affected by Trump's leadership than he is affected by Buhari's. If Trump bans Uber tomorrow, he is out of job. It does not concern him if Buhari bans Uber. Being an American is all about the passport and not when you came or where you're from and this guy is not less affected than those Nigerians in the US that have passports. This same guy could get his passport in future and be as 100% as American as the lady. Tell me, when that happens, would you still think be should told to shut up cause he's orginally from Nigeria?

That girl is a Trump supporter who was ready to abuse any opponent with any thing she could hold on to. Even if the guy was American, she'd still tell him to go and live in Saudi Arabia if he doesn't like Trump (that's how Trump supporters speak here). She just held on to his country of origin cause that's the nearest weapon but it doesn't mean foreigners shouldn't have a say in what affects them.

myBraine:
I disagree.

Development doesn't just happen, there are procedures to follow. Every great thing takes time and change is constant. Nigeria is still better than many African countries whether you agree with me or not. How many Nigerian can survive a day in NK with the level of freedom we're used to. All we need is patience.

Present empires will crumble as newer ones will rise. It is in this same world that we once had the great Britain, the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, and the imperial Japan. Many of these empires have crumbled today with only Japan striving for relevance due to their unequaled knowledge of how technology works. Today, city like Tokyo is the most advanced cities in the world. Seoul in South Korea is another smart city worth mentioning. These two cities and their respective countries were able to attain such a great feet because they have citizens that so much care about their country. Samsung alone contributes about 17% to South Korea GDP and likewise Toyata to Japan. Now imagine if we have companies like Samsung and Toyota in Nigeria? Yet, we have one of them but because Nigerians are too naive to sight opportunities when they see one.

America empire and western hegemony will soon crumble. China and the rest of Asia will take over dominance. Immediately they reach the peak of development, they'll crumble as well and Africa will finally colonize the world.

Bro, I learned a few things here but I sincerely don't see how your comment excuses bad leadership in Nigeria. Toyota and Samsung had the enabling environment. Empires crumble and others grow, so how does that justify the Nigerian misery? Or should the government sit back and wait for African turn to lead the world before they start working?

SenecaTheYonger:
Maybe you don’t know the meaning of respectful opinion then? You can y’all about other people’s politics without insulting them and their president.


Funny thing is, I’ve never heard foreigners insult Buhari before. You rarely see it even though he not doing well as a president.

The dude just jumped on the bandwagon he sees everywhere.

Do you have have as much foreigners in Nigeria as we have in North America? Are they legal immigrants? Do they pay their taxes just like everyone else? If your answer to all these is yes, then they have every right to criticize bad leadership regardless of where they come from. Every right.

The video didn't show the dude's part for us to know what exactly he said and that's why I decorated my comments with multiple disclaimers about that.

Korllami007:
Don't shift blame to communication. Leave communication alone make e de enjoy hin life.
The guy clothed her, bought phone for her, paid half of the girl shop rent and that is same salon the guy's mom went to make her hair, phone of 60k he sold it for her brother 48k and that's 12k loss. After all this, the only thing this guy could benefit from her is just to make his mother hair for free which the cost might not be up to 2k.


To you, communication should take the blame.

Yes, there was a little problem. It was a very very little problem that shouldn't have led to "you're foolish", "you're wicked", etc. And like I said, it was not about the money but a difference in understanding. As you can see on this thread, there's a divide already cause people see things differently. 2k might not have made all the difference to the girl so I'm pretty sure not asking the woman to keep her money was an oversight or a different perspective. The guy does not like it, which is valid too. But if the guy leaves her cause of this exact problem, bro, he's not ready for marriage. If we're being honest with ourselves, we'd all agree that this is the kind of day-to-day little problems that naturally lace our relationships regardless of how perfect we think we are. In fact, if this is the only major problem they've ever had, then they've got a more perfect relationship than a lot of people here on NL who would quickly type "dump her!".

jude79:
Arrant nonsense, a person whose house is on fire, leaves his house to go and pour water on a small heap of refuse, his neighbor is burning. And here you are, in all your sophisticated wisdom supporting him. Country of residence my foot. He should come back and give his advice where it's needed, if he is tired of their policies.

If you live outside Nigeria and you feel you shouldn't have an opinion on the politics of where you live because you're Nigerian regardless of the fact that government policies affect as you as much as they affect everyone else, that's fine. I don't know how you guys view foreigners in Nigeria but North America is full of foreigners and allowing those from some countries to contribute to political discussions while those from other countries are hushed is outrightly biased. Y'all can go around with your Nigerian tag and feeling less than everyone else but that doesn't justify the biase. This guy pays his tax as much as everyone else and you really think he shouldn't have any say on government decisions? Or were you thinking they'd take less tax from him cause his country is poor? Do they consider your country or origin when assimilating your talents? So if, for instance, Trump bans Uber and the guy loses his job, he shouldn't have an opinion about that cause he's Nigerian? I honestly don't know how people see things in Africa.

AreaFada2:
Generally, it's good to respect others first. He could have asked about the women's opinion of Trump presidency first.

Being able to holiday in Switzerland means they are probably better off than many black Americans.

You can see that the women's low opinion of non-Americans, non-UK Europeans (especially France), despising Obama & Africans, praising Brexit and other innuendos show they are Republican/conservative leaning people.

You can see the typical ignorance some Americans (not all by any means) & many Westerners spew. But there are many Americans who travel enough, learn foreign languages, curious about other people, tone down their pride, very engaging and thoroughly well informed. Whether they are democrats or Republicans.

Regarding taxes, they are higher in France than in Switzerland. Average income is higher in Switzerland too. But prices are prohibitive in Switzerland.

Certainly an American tourist would pay higher prices in Switzerland than in France for similar quality of goods and services. Many Swiss people living around the borders with Germany & France go to these country to shop because it's cheaper there.

While Switzerland is neutral in many international matters, France is virtually the only Western country that regularly takes a different view to America. With the last Iraq War when France & Russia wanted UN weapons inspection completed first. Of course we now now that the evidence Gen Collin Powell showed the world was fake. Powell feels humiliated till today and France was right.

So France is not popular with Republicans.

I totally agree with you. Especially as regards the perception of Africa here. I live in North America and I've literally gotten tired of educating people about Africa. I know Nigeria has a long way to go but I've been to Lagos downtown (can't remember if it was Ikoyi or VI) and I can tell you that on the surface, it's not too far from a typical city here. But these guys really think of mud houses when they think of Africa and sometimes, they even look at you pitifully when you say your parents are originally Africans. Smh

This is clearly a case of different perspectives (the debate that will come up on this thread will further reflect this) and I see it as something they could have easily discussed and agreed on how they'd rather have things be. As a dating couple, they learn more of each other everyday and they reform to better suit their expectations. This kind of issues are bound to come up and should be taken as an opportunity to further know what the expectations are. If I were the lady, I probably wouldn't collect money from my fiance's mother. That's me though (I wouldn't expect that from others cause friends and family could ruin business). Again, if were the mother, I'd insist she should collect her money especially if I plan to be coming there often cause I wouldn't want to appear as a burden. And finally, if I were the guy, I wouldn't send my mum to the shop with so much certainty that my girlfriend wouldn't take her money. If I wanted to ensure that, I'd tell her upfront. From the chat, I don't think that would have been a problem.

But the issue here is not the money but the poor communication between them. The girl might have collected the money not because she was bent on getting her pay but just that the thought of asking the woman to keep her money didn't cross her mind at that time. Again, if the guy's mum is rich, she might have even felt it was respectful taking the money from her and saying "thank ma" while slightly kneeling just to show she acknowledges and appreciates her support for her business. On the other hand, the guy's discontent is very valid as well. Not only because he's done so much for the girl but because he would have even felt embarrassed when his mum told him that she paid. It's sad that the girl didn't think it through or even saw it that way but we all must agree that they need to learn some communication skills. The guy typed with so much emotions and the name calling came faster than Tonto Dike's ex husband. If this is how he would react each time they have an issue as a couple, then there's a big problem. The lady seemed more put together in my opinion but she should have known when to de-escalate the issue seeing how emotionally charged the discussion was but she kept stretching it.

Communication is indeed everything.

Righteousness89:
Launch yourself Fully into God ...
Stand in Gap for your Home and Husband In Prayers.
At midnight call call on the GOD of Heaven
Prayers Changes things..
When He sees a New you, that Could Just be the Tonic..

I don't get, what is the practical advice here? As beautiful as prayer is, I think she needs something practical to complete the faith and work equation. And the idea that she's got to renew herself when the issue here isn't her but the husband is really unsettling. When shall we stop reconfiguring women to solve men's issues? A man cheats, the woman is asked to cook well. A man rapes, the woman is asked to dress well. Now, a man is an alky and the woman is being asked renew herself. We need to start taking responsibility for our actions, pastor. Just saying.

JIMMY1393:
Is it today you are noticing....so many lazy bloggers and news carriers that will post rubbish all in the name of making news...I tire

Lol... I thought maybe they don't improve because they don't get feedbacks. That's why I took out time to comment on that. Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed.

JIMMY1393:
Did you not watch the video at all? Although I agree anyone is free to have an opinion about trump even if their own country is worse what triggered them is that there was nothing to bring up the discussion of trump....why didn't the guy attack buhari instead? Why Trump? Is buhari not even a more suitable candidate to be hated upon? He could have said oh this buhari sef or whatever but nope he decided to attack Trump....the way I see it I'm sure he was trying to bring up a topic of discussion and his hatred for Trump was his play card..little did he know that they would not agree with him...the guy's situation even doesn't make his matter better cos he is not even in his own country and probably fled cos of how bad his president/leaders are, yet he's looking at the president of another country to bash, which again is ok(everyone has opinions) but to them as Americans who took offense in it I don't see anything wrong in them getting angry/disagreeing

I did watch the video and I only got the lady's side of the story. And that's why I started my comment by stating that I didn't really know for sure what led to the outburst. My point is that every legal immigrant has the right to criticize Trump. Someone living is in the US with his family is more directly impacted by Trump's leadership than Buhari's so criticizing Trump is not in any way out place. It's just an opinion and everyone has the right to have one. It has nothing to do with whichever country one is from because policies affect everyone. Allowing immigrants from country A to discuss politics fearlessly while hushing those from country B because their home country isn't as developed is an illogical bias because at the end, everyone is affected by government decisions. What matters here, in my opinion, is the details of what the actually said or what led to his statement (which we both don't have). Criticizing Trump is one thing, trash-talking the US is another. This is why I added multiple disclaimers to my first post.

JIMMY1393:
You are trying to shame men as if it's only us that's this country's problem and yet you can't even spell male correctly....go back to school and learn English properly and then maybe I can take you seriously

Lol... surprised you didn't get the message. The person you quoted is only flipping the table on Nairaland guys. Believe it or not, if it were a Nigerian lady involved in this, you would have been reading comments about how Nigerian women have taken their lack of manners to the US or how women cannot not control tongue or any of the numerous formulaic women bashing statements Nairaland is known for. Now a guy is involved and no one remembers his gender.