₦airaland Forum

ZooOga:
when our democracy fully matures it won't make a difference which region an highly qualified presidential aspirant hails from.
tribalistic analysis and tribalism can't end soon enough in the Giant of Africa.
the chief should focus on delivering total safety and exceptional progress to the masses in 2019, 2020, 2021, and 2022 before worrying about 2023.

Hope you can wait another 100 to 150 years because that's how long it took most of these so called advanced countries to refine their democracy into something manageable.

Advocate500:
all dis gibberish u wrote, is that how the countries will to use as example run their own nation? By centering everything on tribe and ethnicity?if u know me u won't tell me about region, I see everyone as same.

Sorry to say but you're sleeping. The Northerners don't see everyone the same, the Biafrians son't see everyone the same, the Igbos don't see everyone the same and certainly the Yorubas don't see everyone the same. Other countries' political tactics won't work in Nigeria for we are a place with an entirely different spirit. Religion, tribes, political godfatherism and so on, the person wey fit save 9ja dem never BORN AM!

No be only 9ja jaga jaga, all African countries are mostly sh*th*les. How can someone be a proven killer and still end up in a powerful political position? We go come dey act surprised when they start acting like tyrants....lol.

JonDon12:
No you are misreading the statistics. It says they lack the food to lead a healthy life, NOT they are Hungry. But I dont want to argue about Hunger in America. America has enough analysts, social workers and government staffers to do that.

I misread nothing, 1 in 5 kids don't know where their next meal will come from. 1 in 5 are living in extreme poverty. Your argument is that no kids goes hungry in America because we have social services, handouts and they can steal, your argument is based on your little town or geographical location and not based on any proper statistical research. As someone that works with numbers and stats all day, I find it comical but you're right no need to argue anymore

DarkJeddi:
And the only reason they are recognized as Nigerians is because they made a special effort to let everyone know that they are Nigerians..

Left to the Media,nobody will ever know where they are from..

Special effort? LMAO....They were successful, that's all the effort they need. There are two ways to be popular, do something really good or do something really bad......That's all the special effort you need

JonDon12:
Bullshit. I have lived and worked in America for longer than you. In America, no one starves. My pastor ran a food pantry for years and I know for a fact that Publix Employees, Krispy Kreme as well as Dunking Donuts Employees have standing orders to feed anybody coming in Hungry. In America, people get food stamps and during times of Emrgencies their cards are automatically funded. Also every major food retailer e.g Walmart and Aldis have to have a disposal plan for excess food. The smaller guys like Star bucks and 7 ELeven can throw away their excess food. Walmart or Publix can't. In my city, they have to donate it. In America the basic rule is the poorer u are, most likely the fatter you are. Also and I am not encouraging theft but Walmart door scanners do not beep for most food items in my city, the SKUs are removed from the Database.

The stats u are using are incidences. So 1 in 5 children may have incidences of hunger at least one day a year. It does not mean they starve 365 days of the year.

I don't have to argue with you, the statistics says that you're wrong!

[url]https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ACYBGNSMZlPqMrMlQR3CNue5LQk_k1UT9Q%3A1573767995470&source=hp&ei=O8vNXeLyGcGQ_Qbn35ywAw&q=1+in+5+american+kids&oq=1+in+5+&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.35i39j0l9.2900.4421..6710...0.0..0.73.449.7......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i67.iEfqKw8DRC4[/url]

[quote author=Mrpsly247 post=84032840][/quote]LMAO....I've lived and worked in the USA for a decade now, you guys must think social service is some kind of magical wand or fairy that takes away poverty and hunger....LOL. At least do your research on Google, 1 in 5 American children are starving. 1 in 7 adults go to bed hungry everyday. 1 in 4 black households cannot guarantee 2 square meals a day. We have more kids who ran away from the foster system per year than we can count, social services can only help those that they can find and even at that backlogged cases can take years to resolve!

DarkJeddi:
Am sure if he just won a Gold Medal in the Olympics,nobody will remember he has a dual Citizenship..

Hakeem Olajuwon(NBA champion), Bennet Omalu(CTE & brain injuries), Uzo Aduba(Orange is the new black), Wale(Rapper). All these are great achievers recognized as Nigerian and American.....Plenty more to come!

buddenlove:
No sir it is not what they r saying. dont bring ur emotion in court caz
They say the case is out of time, according to Nigeria law to be investigated.
If Fatoyinbo is innocent or guilty or if Busola is lying or telling the truth, they said they cant answer the question.
The judgment is very clear on the topic.

English is very simple but your comprehension is whack! The evidence of this case is tainted and cannot be used hence the court has no choice than to declare him absolved of all charges. A person that cannot be convicted based on available evidence is what? INNOCENT/ACQUITTED!

LET'S NOT SENSATIONALIZE THINGS! In the USA we have kids sleeping under bridges, kids living with rats, kids hooked on drugs. Same in London, same in France. The problem is not only a local one but global as well. The poor are poor based on bad decisions from parents, governments and nation as a whole. The rich are rich based on good decisions. The poor believes others are to blame for their failures and that other people will take care of them, the rich believes they are responsible for their own success and/or failures, they believe they have to look out for themselves because they can't rely on others. In the end, NO ONE GIVES A BLEEP WHETHER YOU LIVE OR DIE! If you are blessed try to help the poor, if you don't want to no maga can force you! If you're poor don't expect the rich to save you, either ESCAPE your mental and physical slavery or PERISH!

Omoluabi16:
loool. These people are scammers oh. You are only 'dual' when you're just an average Joe. All the success stories nobody remembers there Nigerian roots.
Indeed it's a blessing and a curse. But this mad rapist, we hereby reject him

LMAO

buddenlove:
Sir, Read the judgement carefully. They didnt say Fatoyinbo is clean nor Busola is lying.
What they r saying is the case is too far to be investigated.
It's out the legal period of 6 years.
Comprendo?

In other words, he is innocent in the eyes of the law. No case can be brought against him......English no too hard....lol.

Omoluabi16:
Foolish blogger. He is from Douglas county, yet you term him Nigerian.

Even Nigerians born abroad are still called Nigerians.... That's the power of dual citizenship, a blessing and a curse

millionboi2:
is not just idea

Idea, inventions, plans etc? So many great ideas/inventions or plans have died with their creator because no one knew about them.

Whatever is yours is yours! If you like tell 1 Billion people about an idea that you have, if it is truly yours they won't find the means nor the time to be able to steal it. A lot of ideas/inventions in Nigeria died with their creators because no one knew. It is simple, most Nigerians have great ideas but lack the funding or the avenue to bring them to reality. DO YOU THINK KEEPING IT INSIDE WOULD REALLY HELP THESE PEOPLE? Ideas without action/investors is basically worthless!

shogsman:
I've actually been a victim once and I know how it feels but let us not forget the horrible system we have in place that do not support anybody, you should notice I laid emphasis on the word ''FEW'',I just want us to apportion the blame equally.

We don't need to make excuses for any of them, I would have been more sympathetic if they went after Nigerian politicians and corrupt businessmen instead of innocent whites and black foreigners. Most of these vagabonds are the reasons why kids age 9 to 15 don't believe in hardwork anymore, everyone wants to shine like diamond but nobody wants to dig it out of the cave mines.

shogsman:
As much as I hate this free loafers soiling our name home and abroad we can’t overlook the fact that there are few of them that actually feels bad for what they do and would quit if they had a legitimate way of making money,being that as it may.
YOU’RE AN UNFORTUNATE FELLOW,this is a forum stop cursing.

Do you feel the same way about armed robbers or kidnappers? I'm sure they are some of them that would choose another path if they had real options....lol. Nigerians we like to eat our cake and have it, let me know how you would feel when some unknown person wipes out all your life's savings

MrBrownJay1:
i just read of a story about a 16yr old who raped a 10yr old innocent child....
back in the days there was the story in England of these two kids (about 10/11) who kidnapped a kid in a shopping enter, took him to some abandoned place and killed him for no reason whatsoever (what was their names again?!)

here enjoy, these little demon are on this list:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoLVqA1YW1s

Sure they exist but to say these events happens just as much as adults? That's funny!

MrBrownJay1:
i dont know how old that person is, and kids under 18 today do just as much evil as adults (thus deserve the same punishment).
i am not arguing on whats right or wrong...but what i would understand. so as i said: although it aint right, i would certainly understand why many do it (if/when for the reason i stated above)

An adult pouring acid on a kid is understandable, aunties and unclies deforming their nieces and nephews.....Welcome to the 21st century .

This is what I don't get, most of these politicians travel abroad, they have delegates or representatives that arre well educated. They have the finances, the tools to do the job properly, why deploy suchan archaic solution? Is Abia really that poor? Like someone said earlier, WHO DO US?

MrBrownJay1:
again... i dont know why someone threw acid on her face, but i would certainly understand why someone would lose their mind and do it (for the above reason i stated).

same like i would understand why a man/woman would kill their spouse if/when they caught them cheating. i know it aint right, but since the culprit was crazy enough to marry a mad person AND tempt that same insane person (by cheating on them), then they should also accept whatever punishment that mad person decide they deserve.

I'm not arguing on what's right or wrong just applicability. The context here is a child, presumably well below 18. Do you think a child will actually be an active participant in money ritual of a family member? All the reasons you mentioned are of criminal nature, so why is the child roaming about free? We can ramble about on hypothesis but the more likely scenario is a wicked aunt who lost her temper. Let's stop this culture of seeing evil and yet giving justification for such evil.

MrBrownJay1:
as much as this is a very sad story, i would like to know why she did it... as I (MBJ) could find a few reason why someone could lose their minds and do that.

- rape/violate a person children
- murder of a close relatives
- money ritual
- kidnapping

remember: i am NOT saying that throwing acid on people's face is right, i am just saying that i would understand someone who did (for the above reason)

Lol....So does those scenarios apply in this situation, keep in mind it's just a kid, money ritual? Really

If the job is guaranteed, take it. You'll earn valuable income and savings needed to propel your business idea into existence. Trust me without capital, you're on a long thing. Do not borrow money to start a business, do not tell your parents or anyone to raise you. Work for it, you'll appreciate the value in the long run! You are still young hence working for a few years will not detract you from your entrepreneurial dreams.

QuintessentialW:
Yes, I was told plenty. But fortunately, I heard from both sides. I heard my mum's side... I heard my father's. I always try to be objective and rational in whatever I do. My father had no justification. It didn't all make sense when I was a child... but things became clearer as I grew older.

Funny thing is, my mum never turned us against father. She was always accomodating. She sorely wished he had stayed even if he wouldn't foot the bills. When I first said I wanted to know my village and go find my dad, my mum was alive. She didn't stop me. Mum was everything ideal and sweet. She simply had sore luck with the man she married. But God knows best.

Yes God knows best which is why you must not be judge and executioner. Don't take revenge for soemthing you had no control of, don't keep a grudge for something beyond your undertsanding. Even if the man was not in anyway a good father, don't you think the fact that he had something to do with you coimg to this world deserves acknowledgment? In the past week can you count how many sins you committed knowingly or unknowingly? Why hasn't God struck you down? If he can forgive surely you can find a space in your heart for this man that has clearly erred, surely you can show him that love trumps hate or neglect? I've seen so much of this world to know that it is much more beyond what we see, I wish you best of luck!

Parents be careful how you train your children, be weary of what bad things you tell you r sons or daughters about your partner. A true psychologists can discern a bit of fib from her story:

Myself and my siblings were raised (from when I was about 8 years old) single handedly by my mum. Even all the 7 years that my father lived with us, my mum chiefly ran the home... she was the one who paid rent and school fees and ensured quality feeding.

So you mean an 8 year old child knew who was paying rent, school fees? An 8 year old child knew who put money down for the well being of the family or was this what she was told after the man left?

What OP fails to understand is that whether he did his duties or not, he's still your biological father and that is a God given role. Africa being a place where physical meets spiritual, I wouldn't be surprised if the man was suffering from serious depression mixed with gigantic spiritual battles. All in all, unless you truly forgive this man, you might not know peace. End the cycle now, do not let the sins of the father create the sins of the child.

jayfolarin:
Like someone Said, only worthless poor people speak like you.

People that have enough money that will buy you and your generations know how bad racism is and speak against constantly but your lowly self think it's justified as long as you are making millions.

I don't blame you, poverty is an absolute bastard

You're both right, some have enough money to care about issues like this while some are just getting started and would rather keep making money than to speak up on issues that they can't control. Racism is everywhere even within our own Nigeria but people pass people. Money is a serious motivator especially when you've suffered years of extreme poverty.

merahki:
Well you don’t slap a person and tell them how to react to it
That’s not stupidity, that’s realness to me
He was hurting at the abuse and he showed it
Simple
They should contest that decision and easily win
And get the terrible referee fined or suspended while at it
I would sign the petition

Funny....You think referees care about emotions, rules are rules and the referee did nothing wrong. Raising his middle finger and kicking the ball was all the justification the referee needed.

symbianDON:
I don't trust these Asians. Who knows if it was not further maths

Of course it's further maths, regular maths is for under 6 years old in Asia

wirinet:
That's the problem with Muslims in general and Nigerians as a whole, you want to impose your religion (apart from other views like political and moral views) on others; that's fundamentalism. And it often leads to lots of conflicts, both within the family and nationally ).
This difficult not use to be so during my secondary school days. I went to Catholic school and there were lots of Muslims, there was no single conflict, we were all friends (and still friends today). I did Hsc in sokoto, we easily mixed with Hausa fulaniu muslims with no conflict at all. They attend their prayers, we attended ours, no conflicts whatsoever.

I knew lots of families with Muslim father's and Christian mothers, we felt the love and respect within the family, no conflicts at all.

You should learn that religion is a personal journey, you cannot take any other person with you. It is a personal relationship between you and your god. It should not be between you, another person(s) and God. I for one am not religious, my wife is a pentecostal Christian, we all respect each others views and space. Occasionally I follow her and the children to church to show moral support. That's it. No conflict whatsoever.

As the proverb goes, you can force a horse to the river, but you cannot force the horse to drink. If she had never been a strong muslim praying 5 times a day when he met and married her, what makes him think she would start praying 5 times a day after 5 years of marriage? What's the use if he see her praying 5 times a day, but knows she does not really believe or like praying 5 times a day? It's all to reinforce his believe that he has absolute control over his wife.

Do you know the word 'context'? Did the OP mentioned that she was a Christian? As far as I'm concerned she practices Islam, she's just not practicing it the way it is meant to be practiced. Now to answer some of your ridiculous assertions, you claim he saw that she was not a devoted Muslim when he married her so he should just let it be, the same can be said of the wife. She saw that he came from a strong Muslim background and that he prays 5 times daily, what was she expecting? The fact remains simple, religion is not by force neither is marriage. In a union especially an Islamic one, you have to obey your spouse's wishes. If you cannot then it is best to leave. Komot relifgion for this matter, if a woman feels she cannot conform to the wishes of the man she married, what options do you suggest?

wirinet:
My sister, you have received enlightenment. You have been free from the hypnotism and mind control of religion and want to asset your dignity and freedom as a human being. Religion is a mind control tool to keep you perpetually a slave to others.

The redded quote gets me very angry. He eats your food and have sex with you but still keeps malice with you. That's sadistic. All with the excuse of you don't pray enough. Is he God?

What happens if you refuse him sex, will he rape you or throw you out of the house?

Anyway, you have to realised, you are highly disadvantaged here, because you have kids. He will abandon the children if you dare leave him, and the children will suffer, except of course you make enough money to house, feed and educate them.

That's why I always frown at ladies who feels, their whole existence must depend on a man, and once married, they will not work again for the rest of your life. That's is very precarious position to be.

You cannot assert any degree of freedom or independence without some degree of financial independence, so you have to either get a job or start a business. He can decide to throw you put any minute or take a second wife.

You also need to inform your family what's going on. You family can ask him of his grouse with you. If it's only prayers, then that's easy to accommodate. You can do eye service and form Sister Mary (or sister Mariam) whenever he is around. Most Christians and Muslims pretend anyway. They say in one thing in public and do another when no one is looking. But, if there are other issues, then you have to start preparing for an eventual separation.

If the OP follows your advice she's bound to end up going from frying pan to fire. Muslims pray 5 times daily because it is commanded by the Almighty not their husband or wife. The fact that the man eats her food and still lays with her shows that he's not after marrying another wife rather he wants her to change. The OP already said he comes from a strong muslim household, this goes to show you where his orientation comes from, a woman with kids will surely influence her kids. The man is thinking about the bigger picture but most women being the emotional creatures that they are can only see the present. Think about it, why would a woman come on Nairaland asking for advice just because her man told her to start acting like a real Muslim? Why would you watch your man keep malice for a whole YEAR and still refuse to adjust? Is she trying to prove stubborness or that she can't obey him? Religion or no religion, one's character cannot be hidden for too long!

chigoizie7:
Lol


If person tell that guy that the lawlessness and the stupidity of the NPF and naija govt will come to him, him no go believe am.

But when musa was arrested and shot because he has tattoos also, when Nigeria women are being arrested and detained in the streets of Abuja and molested by the police, some were even raped ,he kept quiet, he didn’t speak against it, after all , what’s his business? Now it is his turn, Tomorrow, it will be our turn, in a way that we will never imagine.

All the good points you made drowned by your generalization, you don't know the guy yet you already classified him......Are you not one of 9ja's problem? Sir Criticizer of Nairaland first of his name

Victorex001:
You still don’t get it Man!!! With a Nigerian degree you can easily apply for masters abroad, easy and fastest way you port...with a masters abroad you can get better job abroad.
There’s an age limit to study undergraduate degree abroad.

Nigeria degree is trash no doubt but not totally useless!

I get it but not all Nigerian degrees are created equal. Most degrees don't match up to their equivalency abroad, sure you can do masters but can you defend it? A computer science graduate from Nigeria gets to the USA, gets a masters in systems development or information technology, yet when they get to interviews they can't articulate the difference between x64 and x86 architecture. A nursing graduate from Nigeria yet he or she can't pass the Nursing board exam on first try. You get my point, it is one thing to have the degree, it is another to back it up.....Unfortunately most of what students are learning in Nigerian universities are 5 to 10 years outdated.