₦airaland Forum

In short, Tinubu is older than MKO Abiola?

How does that make sense?

Tinubu - 1935

Abiola - 1937

Everlastingson:
It's now beyond party. When it comes to Peter Obi it won't be beyond tribe. You' ll remember he is an Igbo. Hypocrite.

But your Tinubu has promised to continue with Buhari's "good works". You now want to dissociate Tinubu from APC failure when he is called the National Leader of APC. Are you not ashamed? When Buhari began to go wrong from the outset of his administration what did Tinubu and APC do? What did Tinubu in particular do, if he has the interest of Nigeria at heart? Oh, I forgot Tinubu does not believe in one Nigeria. If APC and all their members( including you) are not evil why didn't they change Buhari with a better candidate in 2019? Oh! I forgot it's turn by turn. It's now Tinubu's turn abi. Again, if APC is not pure evil why didn't they choose Osinbajo instead? A drug king/ Boko Haram combination is their best gift to Nigeria. Stop trying to deceive yourself, APC must die in 2023.

it is this APC is an evil party narrative you folks stuck through since 2014 and irrelevant in the party to control things. Ideally APC would have produced a SE candidate if the SE was well invested. The PDP you invested in we saw how well it treated you folks. Politicians simply move from one party to the other. Only a few has any ideology. You want to Tinubu to say i will depart from buharis style, a sitting president with millions of followers in the North. You must be kidding me. Politics is strategic and the SE must learn it. Hate is an emotion and it negates strategy. The same Obi is currently manipulated to steal PDP votes and make it easy for APC. Why did PDP not present Obi after the SE massive investment in PDP? Obi to save Nigeria is a hyperbole, he did not rescue Anambra as an 8yrs governor.

Everlastingson:
If you're not evil you wouldn't want APC to continue destroying Nigeria. Cry all you would APC and their evil candidates have been rejected. Enemies of common good!

it is beyond party, i know that understanding is flying over your head.

@op, The bulk of the woke youth can not understand you. I likened them to young teenagers who think they are the smartest and know everything beyond their parents knowledge.

what attracts those youths are things like "he looks so presidential" candidates talking about Nigeria problems with no clear cut solutions provided and providing bogus statistics" Even a madman can talk about Nigerias problem.

The Tinubu i know is an intellectual, the youths must not be deceived by hate or looks.

gaby:
I've been done responding to your senior colleagues at stupidity.

You came late to the party.

Now, run along.

Dingy

i pity your old man, his son is subjecting him to ridicule. I bet he trained you, but you missed out on the training. I recommend DNA test.

gaby:
Hahaha

Dear BATolo.....meeeewwww,

It isn't a crime to be old. It, however, becomes a sin when you begin to ignore and deny your true age and respect for your present state of being and mind as a result of different natural circumstances that might have been out of your control.

You are also being very ungrateful to your maker and that also comes with some consequences.

I don't know if this is by "clear eye" or Karma is just adamant in ridiculing and making a mockery of you for whatever reasons knowing that whatever we sow in this world is waiting for us someday to reap.

You could be 40 and still be dealing with these same health challenges though, this is a given.

Here's my Dad at 77 years old. Compare and contrast...

If Bola keeps insisting that he is 70, I'll go get my Dad a new declaration of age and peg his age at 50.

BAT BAT....

I hail you sir...

no two individuals at old age will look the same. It is common sense, while you choose not to use it surprises me.

Even siblings with 2 years age difference from the same genetics line. The younger one may look older than the elder at certain point especially at old age.

Does every of your dad classmate at his age look physically like him? I bet some look way older.

jikins:
So only Bible provide knowledge and understanding

So without the Bible you will never know that the language your neighbors are speaking is different your own. Omo the way you guys think is marvelous. Aba made critical thinker

so tell other book of knowledge known to provide the knowledge and understanding of the babel of tower?

I wont waste my time with you anymore. Much ado about nothing. Youths forming woke but not smart.

jikins:
So our diversity, in this case tongues and tribes came from the Bible? See person way dey talk critical thinking, e nor even sabi think.

So all the tribes in Nigeria came into existence after the Missionaries brought the Bible ba. So we all sat down read the Bible and one part of the country suddenly decided to be Yoruba and automatically acquired the understanding of the language .

i know someone will bark.

1. Bible provides knowledge and understanding.

2. We inherit the knowledge and understanding of diverse tongues from the bible.

If you can understand 1, you may be able to understand 2. Most likely, you cant understand any. Critical thinking is a lack for many Nigerian youths though.

He is speaking about diversity. Not necessarily out of place. "Tongues and tribes may differ" was in the former national anthem. He made reference to that in the complete speech. Lazy youths with no critical thinking forming woke. I listened to Peter Obis interview with Adeola Fayehun. I could not but sigh.

Esseite:
Its obvious the rallys are hitting the right spot... there camps are disorganized right now, the APC camp was most hit though... .. expect one massive propaganda during the week against Peter Obi to ginger their comrades, the propaganda would come late due to the David hundeyin investigation on the fake news site this morning which shook Keyamo..the morale is so low right now..

Nevertheless, we are fighting for the good of all including them, a better Nigeria guarantees that...

How can this hit APC the most? Rivers state preseidential election in 2015 & 2019 can easily tell who is most affected. PDP is the one losing its core supporters.

It is an open secret that Obi candidacy is victory assured for Tinubu. The more votes are lost by PDP in the SE and SS the easier it is for APC. As it stands APC onlu need simple majority and more than 25% in 24 states+FCT. if i were APC, I will fund labour party in SE and some SS states. In fact some PDP votes will be lost in the North also.

Tinubu will benefit from Obi's candidacy though, so the ibo bloc votes in Lagos , SE and many parts of SS that goes typically to PDP will be lost as long as Obi gets stronger . Tinubu will be needing 50% of Northern votes (NW+NC+NE) and 33% of southern votes (SW+SS+SE) to clinch the presidency. He is oncourse to win the election at the first ballot. He needs to win on the first ballot. If it gets to the second ballot, the struggle will be enourmous for him. Tinubu is the best of the top 3 candidates, it may be a hard pill to swallow.

Ttalk:
Nelson Mandella of blessed memory wasn't termed as Saviour of Africa by SA people, it is Obi of all people that would be the mirror of Africa. A pandora candidate and money laundering with 250m

people suffering from delusion of grandeur. Obi is like people(ibos in majority) molding a statue and deciding to worship it as their god.

Joe Igbokwe sometimes behaves like his siblings, sharing fake news with fake pictures. Even if the news is true which i doubt, the picture is fake.

Tinubu does not need fake pictures or news to win in 2023. He will win comfortably in 2023.

No. He needs at least 25% of votes in 24 states. The optimistic chance is at least 25% of votes in 11 states.

You cant be "properly parked" in a bus stop. Private vehicles or any type of vehichle are not to park in a bus stop

You have to first realise what you have done wrong, it does not appear you understand what you have done wrong.

The way some people understand this arrangement is that Tinubu will win Rivers. Presidential election is quite strategic and winning a state is not compulsory, producing a dent to your opponent in his stronghold is more of a victory. Wike,Amaechi, Magnus Abe e.t.c and many other forces will bring about 30% of Rivers vote . Tinubu does not have to win Rivers state.

Atiku is the biggest loser so far, if he is not realising this by now, i wonder if his strategists are sleeping. Obi is actually getting stronger in the SS and SE as i predicted to make Tinubu take a closer step to Aso rock.

If Obi steps down, Tinubu is the biggest loser.

I really shudder how there wont be violence at the end of the 2023 elections. The level of toxicity exhibited by the Obi supporters is alarming. Obi is not winning 2023 elections.When campaign starts next month, the reality will set in, although most will choose state of denial when it starts getting clear that they are actively present in just about 11 states. It will hit them strongly. In those 11 states, they will be met with the forces of the two big parties APC and PDP.

TWoods:
But you know that will never be the case. Once he establishes this precedent, his family will be asking for $50k every year. The problem here isn't victor, it is a family that feels entitled to the sweat of his brow. Why cant he buy cars with HIS money? Go work for yours.

he will have enough justification to tell them to go to hell now. Anyone who got 20 million and still reporting (s)he is poor will be blackmailed.

While Victor appears greedy from the vidéo, there is a form of entitlement by the family. It is crazy that family will make it social media affair.

However, it is a shame that victor will let his family suffer. There are some money that will almost make you hands off family wahala. Out of the over 500kusd, If he shared at least 50kusd i.e about 20million naira as of 2020 to each of the immediate siblings, assuming he has 6 siblings, amount spent is 300kusd+ they should be set for life and any one who comes back to cry that Victor did not do anything can go and die. I am very sure many will still come back though, because there is so much greed and entitlement in an average Nigerian.

The money is a commission afterall .


The in law who got the payment should get more payout. We are all different, it should still not have made it to social media, they could have cajoled and begged him, the man may struggle to explain to a court he made voluntary transfer to him and still not get it back.

dyera:
60 to 70 is the transition from middle age to old age, just as 30 to 40 is the transition from youth to middle age. Old age proper, starts from 70.

you obviously constructed this definition. It has more to do with perception though.

dyera:
Am I the only one that is having a feeling of deja Vu, like it's 2015 all over again.

A middle age southern Christian politician is contesting against an old politician that is giving us mouth watering promises, although this time there are two old politicians.

I would like to believe that Nigerians are wiser than they were in 2015.

61 years old is a middle age?

Some sets of people are creating a fantasy and a golden calf to worship.

press9jatv:
What Lasun Yusuf said is very true, another defeat awaits APC Governor in Lagos and Ogun State too. Oju gbogbo wa ti la ni gbogbo ipinle Osun.

There is nothing special about the Adeleke, time will tell. In my opinion Osun state is moving backwards. I will take a politician in the mold of Makinde from PDP anyday.

You can not give what you dont have. Time will tell i repeat.

I dislike politician with my way or lets destroy it mentality. They are not sustainable politicians. Moreover he is grossly overrating himself. Talking about votes for House of rep contested on the platform of the same party you want to see destroyed is shameful. You got that much votes because of the platform not the other way around.

That was wrong. This is the reason why i am not impressed with most critics, they do worse than those they criticise. America does not encourage impunity and shoving Camera in to his face because you are in America is just the same attitude that is common with an average Nigerian to oppress and harass others once they believe they have more powers.


By the way, i have serious beef with this Aregbesola. He masterminded the weakness of APC with his backlog of unpaid salaries and terrible financial status . He then decided to sabotage a sitting governor because he couldnt continue controlling the decisions of the governor.

Keep getting carried away with social media.

The North does little social media with politics. Atiku social media campaigners were mostly southerners who are either supporting Obi or Tinubu at this time, but make no mistake, the offline election will prove he is still PDP candidate and no push over. The pres. Election is between APC and PDP. Atiku will lose more southern votes and gain Northern votes compared to 2019. Overall he will lose in 2023. In 8 months this will be unravelled.

Pdp is simply losing many of the 2019 votes. I have always believed that labour party has to get stronger in the SE to harvest PDP votes. APC dont always get the much needed result it needs in SE at presidential election. Those votes must not go to PDP. Pictures like this gladdens me projecting APC to win. It implies the victory will be easier.

September 28, campaign starts. Boyz will be separated from Men.

Obi is doing do the job. He is harvesting some PDP votes in the south. Tinubu needs Obi to be on the ballot.

Infrastructure is arguably the key factor that drives the economy. I must state that the optimal infrastructures like refineries, seaport, railways, power plants, efficient electricity transmission lines, good rural roads,.

SMEs fail most times because of the failure of these aforelisted infrastructures. Production will struggle and can not be catalysed in the face of inadequate infrastructure. Small and medium scale enterprises fail and cant create the required jobs because of the lack of infrastructure.

Building most of the infrastructures takes time and it takes strong commitment and aggressive focus to achieve sustainable growth.

I am not surprise Obi said infrastructure does not drive economy, little wonder he was saving money that should be used to build infrastructure. You dont have bad roads everywhere, no cargo airport and begin to save money. Nigerias problem today can also be traced to little investment on the infrastructure by the military in about 30 years they were at the helm of affairs, they had an easy chance with the value of Naira, less population to aggressively improve our infrastructure but they barely made a change.

It borders on delusion or maybe crass ignorance to think southern base in about 11 states can make someone a president. Nigerian youths have to be strategic, they can actually form a base in Labour party and start joining massively now. It is too late in a country of 200 million with half of voting age for any party outside APC or PDP to win 2023 presidential election.

In fact, Buhari with a mob followership in Core North exceeding in a greater proportion whatever the Obi movement can generate in the south could not win in 2003, 2007 and 2011. He won in 2015 because of the Southern leg from SW that gave 60% of the votes.

The president needs a simple majority, but also needs at least 25% of votes in 24 states.

Sokoto is governed by PDP, nothing out of the ordinary.