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The point is why did she even want to wear it in the first place. The bottom part is even worse than the top - how will she sit down and she will be pulling it down all the time...

Unless you are into the entertainment industry or something else, common decency, please!

The WHO goes on to recommend that mothers should try to breast feed for up to 2 years... WTH! Who has time for that? Maybe the WHO is thinking that most women do not work and the world should fully be acceptance of mother's breastfeeding anytime, anywhere including at work.

6 months is fine but it is up to the woman - their body their choice. In fact, I do not agree that all babies benefit from breast feeding - some mothers do not do it properly and what is actually coming out of some mothers is probably not that good for the babies. garbage in garbage out.

Health benefits is well established but mothers should not be shamed or told what to do as regards breast feeding or not. 3 months is plenty and then they can move on - get back in shape and start working or whatever - and return to the other room (away from the nursery otherwise the man is forming outside...)

The witching hours - some people are so gullible. Challenge Lucifer at night? What the hell? Nothing will happen if you do that! Just like all those prayers to ward off Satan at night is a waste of time - evil is all around us and it comes via ordinary people; not orchestrated by any spirit.

That man used a lot of words but he said nothing... Ha ha ha

* I get so annoyed with the Night Vigils - why just at night? Those poor people wasting their time and my dear old mother of about 80 being told not to sit down and to pray and shout constantly from midnight to whatever ungodly hour they finish. The poor dear has poor health dn the Pastors are not helping - they want to send her to an early grave with the punishment they give them with their night vigil and praying to ward off Lucifer.

How dare the Pastor come to another man's house to beg for the wife to continue to attend a church that is causing problems between husband and wife. Going to church and religious association is not by force, it is not even compulsory to still be a good christian - so why come and beg and also promise that the wife will change.

This is really bad on many levels. It is either there is come cultist behaviour going on in that church or the pastor is doing something terrible or at least complicit in that terrible thing. And what about the invitee (the friend) that took your wife away - with promises of what; redemption and/or salvation or promise of conception

I have a feeling that your wife might have been trying to conceive unbeknown to yourself... I will not say that it is a betrayal of trust in itself but it is not what a loving and understanding relationship should be about. Moreover, I have seen one or two videos online where a married woman can be seen copulating with a Pastor's assistant while the Pastor was praying and making a video clip of the whole thing... As she was being pounded, she kept moaning 'Enter, holy spirit, enter o - and on and so. It was funny and sad at the same time - WTF?

ricki:
u want visa or not??

I understand what you are saying... However, there is really no need to print 100 pages of communications from social media. I think the most important thing is to genuinely portray your relationship as a realistic one in a natural way; not contrived for the sake of Immigration purposes, and to satisfy the financial requirements, accommodation and TB and English test and to submit all the stated documents on the government pages.

I like the way people are now using plastic wallets with headings to separate the different categories of documents required; so if someone wants to print 100 pages or more then it should not anger the ECO having to trawl through many pages of dross all put together.


Joke! Maybe I should send them nudes together and video clips and marital tiffs... Lol

I would not also want to share all my communications with my spouse with strangers... It is against fundamental rights and decency. One should just try to be natural and not to try to engineer communications for the benefit of the ECOs. They should be savvy enough to know what is going on; most of the time...

I think refusal based on a mistrust of a relationship will not likely be on just communication logs - my opinion. People should not fret too much unless, of course, there is no that much travelling and not married or with no children and possibly a quick application months into a relationship...

I think it is getting ridiculous having to log 18 months of social media communications. There has to be better ways of proving that the relationship is genuine. I cannot see how i can log 18 months communication when I touch base everyday. Flight records, photos and important calls over a period of time should be sufficient. If one is sending money every month (for 18 months), that evidence should be more than enough.

However, each to their own but i think there is a lot of paper being wasted printing 67 pages of communications. I am sure the Home Office and ECOs will not say that people should cut down.

I think for people that rarely travel and met their spouses in funny circumstances, the burden of proof is heavy but you met, you communicated, you got married and have children (maybe) and continue to relate - what more can anyone ask for?

One child and they have agreed not to have another for now. This sounds like a somewhat middleclass relationship; most nja relationship will have had at least 2 kids by now. We shall take your word for it that there is no problem with that aspect of the relationship.

Why go to church everyday? The same question I ask my mother who is almost 80 - why go more than 3 times a week and why are you spending so much money when you are a pensioner with no pension (kids pension scheme). I dont get it!

Your is under a spell (edi from church); it does happen. Or there is something not quite right going on. What is the point of changing churches - you go there to worship, be observant and do more worshiping and praying on your own. Do your Bible reading too! Someone invite another person to a particular church (I bet it is not a catholic or anglican church - it will be one of those fake pentecostal churches)

I will divorce her and move on! Only one child and she is already good for nothing.

*BTW, I do not go to churches - do not worship at all. I don't see the point! I will not tolerate my spouse spending more than 1 or 2 Sundays in a month in church - otherwise, I am gone!

Does a married first time passport applicant have to do an official change of name to get an International Passport; or will the marriage certificate suffice?

And how does one go about doing a change to a married name? Is it an affidavit in court or something else or a combination of affidavit and something else

Lexusgs430:
They are doing the man a big favour...... If you know the % of men, unknowingly bringing up anothers man's child... You would be shocked....

Also not forgetting the dubious amongst us, that would try to sneak another man's child in.........

You are wickedly funny!

* The man has a western name (oyinbo name) but I imagine he must be Kenyan otherwise they will not deny him so many times. It is funny the way he refused to go and do the DNA and said he will rather use the money for feeding the kids and their school fees. People can be weird! Kenya is not exactly a terrible place to live... Good luck to him!

How can this be? Married 6 years and having to prove parentage through DNA... na wa o! And refused multiple times; there must be more to this than meets the eye. Hostile Environment!

* I also saw a video clip from a prominent immigration lawyer/radio personality where she postulated after come case evidence that the British government might be moving to asking for DNA tests. Lord have mercy!

** It is mind blowing to be asked to prove that one is the father or mother of a child but this is the world we live in... Just how do you really prove 100% such a thing if they express a little doubt.

* I shall be applying regardless because £88 is cheaper than the cost of DNA test (or the £2000 for a VISA for a child) even if the application is unsuccessful; it will not be the end of the world.

Velourcity31:
Success!!!

Turns out I actually did get an email yesterday but my Gmail didn't send me a notification.

Here's my timeline:
Application submitted online: 27th May
Biometrics Appointment: 30th May
Documents sent to husband in UK via DHL: 1st June
Documents received at Sheffield (RoyalMail special delivery signed for): 7th June
'Application is being prepared for consideration by an ECO' email from UKVI: 13th June
Email enquiry made to Home Office: 30th July
Received email response: 30th July
Passport ready for collection email: 31st July
Picked up passport with visa inside: 1st August

44 working days from biometrics to passport collection at visa centre

Well done! That was quicker than most - less than 3 month; progress hey? Enjoy and best of luck

Minnienellie24:
The DNA is requested in exceptional cases like mine where my parents are not legally married (UK does not completely recon with polygamy). That was why the DNA was requested.

Thank you! You have been even more illuminating! The links provided straight up are going to be printed off straight away.... Cheers.

Getting all the supporting documents will not be easy for moi; as missus does not even have a voter's card, ID, passport and many other things... It is a total blank page - everything has to be done from scratch... All IDs to be obtained, English test and so on and so forth and then huge concern about a step child whose father has absconded. Wish me luck! LOL (Shot gun relationship and all that - he he he}r

Ibkbosson:
Well they didn't need DNA test because my son is mixed race but they don't always ask for DNA test. You can't even do a DNA test except they request for it. And the DNA test will be done in the British embassy

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We are cool!

I have now gone through the supporting documents and I cannot see the requirement for a DNA test. I am not doubting you or your success... The links provided latterly by another contributor is also very helpful as one has to apply as if one is in Nigeria and for a child otherwise the 3 links for application form, supporting documents and guidance note will not come up. It cannot be done Online for Nigerians.

*It is also good to note that your child is mixed race - kinda help in not doubting the parentage, does it not! Ha ha ha

Ibkbosson:
Yes I am sure because I just got my child's British passport in May. It took 7 weeks to get it. Home office know how they verify documents it's nothing for you to worry about. My son got his citizenship automatically from his father so no need to register him as a British citizen. I got passport for £76 then plus courier but now it's like £88. As for countersigning. My British friend countersigned for me. My husband mailed the form and one of my son's passport to her in London she countersigned then sent it back. I explained how to go about it in my previous answer to Deji

Sorry ibkbosson!

I missed the post above... Yes, you did explain how to go about obtaining the passport. With the 'hostile environment' that has been in place in UK as regards Immigration, I was just skeptical that they will just accept documents without DNA proof but we shall see - all applicants and situations are different. You were successful - that is great! Thanks for the information given and your patience....

Ibkbosson:
You proof the child is yours by your name being on the birth certificate. You also have to submit pictures of you with the child and your wife since the child's birth

Thanks for clarifying the situation because some of the answers are simply not relevant to the situation.

However, I have a strong suspicion that your idea that you simply submit the Nigerian birth certificate with pictures with you and the child will not suffice; unless you can tell me straight that you have done so recently in 2017 or 2018.

I am not an entry clearance officer but even being at the birth of a child does not mean the child is yours; including going to antenatal and naming ceremonies and birth certificates, pictures etc. I was there when the birth certificate was done and it was so casual that I could have been anybody but the father of the child.

The UK does not trust most things that come out of Nigeria and they have their reasons... So the only way to prove you are the father (or parent) of a child born in Nigeria is through a reputable DNA test and certificate. And the UK does not just take any DNA test, it has to be from a reputable if not recommended organisation and this appears to be what they are moving towards for Nigerians (we know some people traffic and so on...). This is also becoming the case in the UK for people trying to get status for their children - they make you go for the most expensive DNA test not just the bog standards.

What we need is someone that has actually done this very recently.

Ibkbosson:
They don't do passport in the British embassy in Nigeria anymore. It way more complicated than that now. Now it's like spousal visa. You send your forms and supporting documents to Durham and it will processed there. They sent the passport and supporting documents back through DHL separately

Are you absolutely sure about this? If so, then it is just too complicating because you cannot do online application for someone living in Nigeria. As for the supporting documents, it will also be hard for all the documents to be verified because the child and mother are in Nigeria; so how can one even prove that the child is your own by simply sending documents. What about the countersigning?

This is very confusing!

How much is it to Register a child as British in Nigeria and how does one go about it?

ricki:
i am applying for my son currently so what is the biggy??

or am i applying from anoda planet? all they ask for is birth cert(local and national) and later any evidence to back up ur application. Its way easy to do from naija because u show them ur papers and they scan it right there and return.

So if u have plenty money go ahead with your plan.........

Just going through your reply... It seems that you have gone through the process of applying for the passport. Why dont you enlighten us properly - try and give more details; that will be most helpful. Thanks.

BTW, you have just confirmed what I thought... You go there and get the documents scanned and then wait. However, like I said, the two parents will have to be in Nja for that to happen; unless you are going to go there with the Passport of your spouse who is in the UK... I read somewhere that they frown on that.

Note: I think you might have got me wrong asking me for money because I actually agree with you and others that it is cheaper to do the passport for a child in the Nigeria than to pay for a child's VISA with the spouse's application.

** I have other special issues relating to a step child - and I cannot get my head around that potential problem; not at the moment...

ricki:
can i send you my account for u to lend me some money biko.......

ha ha ha. what is that about?

[quote author=ronkybabe2003 post=69869170]Hi... if you became British citizen on or before the birth of ur child automatically the child is British... U just need to pick the form at the post office fill it with necessary document ad stated in the form.... go for passport check at the post office and wait for ur child British passport within 4 to 8 weeks.... if the Home Ofgice have and question in regard yo the application they will contact you either by email or phone ..... trust me on this


But the child is in Nigeria! What do you mean by just to the Post Office? There is more to it than that....

I shall also like to know how to go about it but it will have to do with both parents going to Nja and the British High Commission to get the Passport. That is what I intend to do but the other snag is that the countersigner of the child's passport photos should hold a British Passport and will have known the mother (or father as the case may be) for 2 years.

However, I intend to pick up at least 2 blank application forms from the UK and fill everything and include as much supporting documents as possible and head to Victoria Island (I presume that is where the BHC is?)

* Note: The Passport Office in Nigeria do not want the British Passport to be sent by courier to the mother (or father); so a presence will be required for them to photocopy the passport or evidence it in whatever way they do.

** I am sorry I have not helped much but it seems that it is a question of paying £2000 for a British child VISA upfront and then doing the Passport in the UK or traveliing to Nja for less to get the child's passport and this will be even more beneficial to the Spousal Visa application... My tuppence worth! LOL

You do not need to buy gifts to be romantic! You are still getting things wrong... The only part I agree with is that she should also buy gifts - but why the hassle?

I do not care much about gifts but good gestures, thoughtfulness and even a surprise meal or outing is enough. You get Nja women are wrongly wired

dustydee:
Why do a lot of Nigerian men think that it is their responsibility to provide for their partners' need when they are not married. A guy can buy his girl friend gifts from time to time but must not necessarily perform the duties of her father or her duties. If she needs to buy powder, let her get a job or wait for her birthday when you can buy it for her.

It is not the men that want to take on the responsibility but the ladies and society.

Village lady on less than 20k struggling to make ends meet will not just be happy if a guy comes along and double the salary and buys gifts, she will still ask for more and will start behaving like a slayer if one is not careful.

Even a girl claiming to be pregnant for money or saying she is going to private hospital when all she did was buy malaria tablets

Sabrina18:
That's being a gold digger. I don't extort money from my boo.

Thanks fine lady. It does not engender trust if a woman is I flaring the cost of things.

I have the same problems right now... Sweet girl that refused a recharge card now has the audacity to ask for perfume when I have just bought her an expensive watch and neck chain. A day later, she wants me to sponsor her studies.

What is wrong with some people?

I think you should have serious words with her and stop buying things asap. I cannot abandon mine - it is too late but she better change because I resent being extorted. It might be better just to flash the cash and sleep around.

Bad education in Nja

koning:
You are wrong. This woman came into Nigeria on a Visitor's visa. That is standard 30days leave to remain. If you like obtain 10 years visitors visa at the Embassy in Europe or anywhere else, once you land MMA the immigration would stamp 30 days on your passport. You will be advised to go for an extension at the expiry of the 30 days.

This woman does not understand the process. However, the fine for overstaying is NOT $3,000. That is where the corruption comes in.
But as for overstaying, this woman Overstayed.

The same happened to me but the system is wrong. Oyinbos do not do that to us, so why the nonsense. Why would people from abroad want to be illegal in this country? We should be grateful people want to come - ye ye!

How do you go and renew or ask for extension? Do they make that clear anywhere. Zoo!

Whether she is Oyinbo, Albino or Nja, nobody should be scammed by officials. No one!

The quick change of the fee makes it obvious that they are trying to exploit the woman.

This is no payback affair - the same thing happened to me as a dual national. I got a 6 months VISA oy for the idiots to stamp it as 1 month on my entry - I did not even check... Why, when I have already spent close £250 to come to my country because of passport shortages and poor service in London.

What mockery? And such ignorance and arrogance to boot.

Brexit has nothing to do with Nigerians. And most of the Nigerians working in the UK are also under a Resume or Resign clause. Even our footballers that go home after a break and come back late; they get ultimatums; malaria is not even a good excuse.

Lastly, he said Nja needs the money when they sell their properties and other gibberish... What about the billions remitted to the country to help out and what of politicians like him with kids, investments and properties abroad.

Only in Nigeria or Africa can be tolerate such a failure for a leader. So what was wrong with him? And the protest will have embarrassed him a little if not for the media silence from MSM and the UK; and also his rentasupport counter protesters.

ronvlaar:
Found it!!!

Further to above...

Where can one take the test in Lagos or Ibadan?

teejay231:
No adoption or consent required. Financial requirements go up to around £22,400 or so. Same application as mother but separate. Also, I think you can't pay the NHS fee until they are reviewing your application and contact you to do so.

Thanks. That will mean two lots of payments for two separate applications - na wa o! Sigh...

babyfaceafrica:
This OP is biased and naive... Do you know hownmany countries outsource visa applications?..smh

I am not sure this is about bias... It is the way the system runs that is disturbing and wrong.

I paid close to £250 for a visa to go to Nigeria; in fact those in the US have reduced rate on multiple visas and cost less than UK.

$160 plus $20+ fees, plus £20 postal order and £70 to Nja immigration, £72 to OIS (or Innovative...) and then postal fees etc

It was just too expensive but I got it quickly than applying for a Nja passport. That took me more than 3 months in Nja to get it...

Worst still - I found out that the bastard immigration only stamped 1 month on my passport; whereas I paid for 6 months VISA.

Outsourcing is not the issue here but a failed country.

teejay231:
Yes. IELTS A1. IELTS B1 for FLR after the first 2.5 years.

Thanks again.

One more thing... What is involved with bringing a step child?
Does the child have to be legally adopted or will a consent from the biological father be enough? (It will be a shame to tear a mother from her child...)

Lexusgs430:
YES

Thanks my good man. I had to go back into many threads to find out that even some degree holders also require English language proficiency test. Nja is not one of the countries that they accept as English speaking...

So, how can one go about doing this test: recognisable certificate, TEFL, TOEFL, ielts or which other ones is acceptable for UK immigration? And where can one do this in Ogun, Lagos or Oyo states?
Thanks in advance

Hi folks,

Does a partner/spouse need an English Language proficiency test just to go and join a partner/spouse in the UK.

The Nigerian partner does not have higher education certificate.

Thanks