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Christianity EtcRe: How Am I To Pay My Tithe? by JJYOU: 9:32pm On May 30, 2009
i am beginning to wonder how same person can justify and be tolerant of PDP thieves as politicians and order some phensic/ paracetamol for religious people
Christianity EtcRe: Nigerian Raised From The Dead by JJYOU: 9:27pm On May 30, 2009
wbb
PoliticsRe: Jonathan Can’t Take Over •north Will Not Allow Vice President Replace Yar'adua by JJYOU(op): 9:03pm On May 30, 2009
that is planning ahead. you wait till they cause more trouble?
Nairaland GeneralRe: My Noticed On nairaland Since Becoming A Member by JJYOU: 9:01pm On May 30, 2009
funny NL.
PoliticsRe: What Happened To Punch Newspaper's Website by JJYOU: 8:56pm On May 30, 2009
moneygurl:
I think it is suppose to be for their Punch Mobile (which you have to pay for) and maybe their website made a mistake or something. Who pays for newspaper mobile anyway?
can you use the phone abroad?
PoliticsRe: What Happened To Punch Newspaper's Website by JJYOU: 8:55pm On May 30, 2009
moneygurl:
Okay what happened to their website. It seems you have to log in put in your phone number so that they can charge you before you can view their website? Right?
is that not funny?
they even want your credit card.  people who cant stop their site being hijacked want your details online.  SAD
MrCrackles:
Jokes, i aint subscribing to the bullshit! angry
ME TOO. site is not secured. let them sort out their security first
RomanceRe: The Changing Face Of Prostitution In Niaja, No More Shame. by JJYOU: 8:50pm On May 30, 2009
why do some girls think it is safe to wear 2nd hand tongs and bikinis?
PoliticsJonathan Can’t Take Over •north Will Not Allow Vice President Replace Yar'adua by JJYOU(op): 8:34pm On May 30, 2009
Jonathan can’t take over
• The North will not allow vice president to replace Yar’Adua, constitution or no constitution — Daboh
From LUCKY NWANKWERE, Abuja
Saturday, May 30, 2009

Godwin Daboh
Photo: Sun News Publishing
More Stories on This Section

Although the 1999 constitution says that in the event of the president’s death or he resigns or removed from office the vice president takes over government, there are indications that the North would not allow this to happen if President Umar Musa Yar’Adua, at any time within his tenure, cannot continue in office.

Revealing this to editors and members of the management of The Sun, eminent politician and chieftain of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), Dr. Godwin Daboh Adzuana, said the North would never allow Vice President Goodluck Jonathan to replace Yar’Adua if the latter has to quit office halfway in his government.

He said that if Yar’Adua cannot continue in office, there would be an interim government pending when a northerner is selected as president.

He said; “The North cannot allow Jonathan to complete the term of Yar’Adua. The position here is that there will be an interim government within which somebody from the North will be elected to complete Yar’Adua’s term. We are not giving one day of this administration to the South.”
Dr. Daboh spoke on this and other things.

A large number of Nigerians are still angry about Ekiti. What really happened in Ekiti?
What happened in Ekiti, I will say, is the same thing that happened in 1982. Umaru Shinkafi, who was the Director General of the State Security Services (SSS), told me the reason the National Party of Nigeria (NPN) was going to win the election. In an emerging democracy, the party that wins an election is the party in control of the mechanics of control.

It is not whether you are liked by the electorate or not. The political party that is in control of the mechanics of control always wins an election in an emerging democracy like Nigeria.

The Ekiti event was unfortunate because I have seen some of the figures. Like in a particular ward, where there were about 1,900 voters, 4, 000 voted. I believe very clearly that there is no way we can sustain democracy if we do not follow honesty in the discharge of our respective responsibilities. It is very sad. Even if the PDP had lost Ekiti State, it is still in control of the country. You will be talking of PDP not controlling about eight states. The rest are controlled by PDP. I wish the tactics adopted by both parties were different to what they had adopted to handle the election.

Unfortunately, it happened the way it is. I am scared and getting very scared because I have heard some people talk. I have heard them make observations. If we do not stop some of the things we are doing democracy is threatened. We do not want, after these 10 years of struggling, to lay a strong political foundation, to go back to square one.

I want to say that what happened in Ekiti must never be allowed to repeat itself. I’m a foundation member of PDP and I wanted PDP to win elections, but sometimes when you see that the indexes are clear that you may not win an election, you have to accept it. You can’t win against all odds. That is wrong. For me, I am saying that the PDP is in absolute control, even if it loses 10 states in the next election. As you know very well, the opposition has collapsed in most states.

In Benue State, there is no opposition. Every body has joined the government and is supporting the government. You have epileptic occurrences of the opposition in two local governments, Kwande and Oturpo. The opposition has collapsed in Benue and so it is in most states.

My appeal to my colleagues is that we must endeavour not to attract any disruption of the democratic process. What happened in Ekiti must never happen again. I’m happy that the opposition is going to court to seek redress. I have somehow found confidence in the judiciary. I have seen, over the last nine months, positive judicial pronouncements in courts, which have brought confidence back in the judiciary. I’m urging the judiciary to continue to discharge its duties in the form and formats it has been going on. Let’s see what they decide on Ekiti. I am sure justice will be done in the end.

Nigeria will be celebrating 10 years of democracy. Is the assessment of Ekiti not the assessment of our performance in the last 10 years?
My own assessment is that we have made great efforts. Remember, we were subjected to military rule for so many decades and then we are back in a democracy. In a country where you have stable democracy, things are done properly. Look at what happened in England last week. The speaker of the House of Commons had to resign because of £2, 000, but are you not surprised that in Nigeria you have people who are facing charges and are ministers?

We must bring respectability to governance. We must not allow personal interest to becloud our sense of justice. I am warning that corruption is getting higher and higher in Nigeria more than ever before. It is extremely disturbing. A youth corps member was given a contract of N50million. How you do that? She had no company. She looked for a company and brought somebody from Kano, who was given that job. This girl made much money. We must begin to do things that are right and fair and things that posterity can look at and say yes, this generation tried. But I’m very worried over what is happening now and our tomorrow.

Your generation is still in power and control.
Honestly, my generation has failed. I have, for instance, been involved in one way or the other with government since 1966, when we staged the counter-coup, but I have not seen many changes. The people who come from very poor background become billionaires immediately they come into government and the society looks at them and accept as well as admire them.

It shouldn’t be. If a whole speaker of the House of Commons could resign because he collected £2,000, what is happening here? Everyday you take the newspapers and you read about a governor getting 100-count charge of fraud involving billions of naira. When you go to function you see this same person, who is assumed to have corruptly enriched himself sitting on the stand. What doe it mean? If you are accused of an offence it presumed that you have an explanation to make until you are clarified. You may be exonerated at the end. We must entrench probity. If we want the democracy today to survive, we must change our methodology of doing things. The political class must change.

I must have to shamefully admit that in 10 years of democracy we have failed. However, we have succeeded in some cases. I am a foundation member of PDP. The PDP will be in power for the next 20 years because we are in control of the mechanics of control. The opposition is not in a position to put its act together. If the opposition is able to put its act together and forget its differences and unite, they could snatch power from PDP. It has happened in many countries of the world.

However, as I said earlier the person who wins an election in Nigeria is the political party in control of the machines of control and that is what will continue to happen until we Nigerians decide that enough is enough.

My generation must apologise for entrenching rigging in the Nigerian polity. We made that mistake. We should allow the will of the people to prevail. Unfortunately, this generation that is trying to take over from us is more vicious, more corrupt than ourselves. I can see the indexes. They are a desperate generation, but we have no choice but to hand over power to them.

Is that why your generation has failed to effect the electoral reform you promised us?
The electoral reforms are would to be effected. The president has sent the Uwais report to the National Assembly. You see the reaction of the National Assembly on the day the report was brought. There is definitely going to be a change. Nobody can stop electoral reforms. There much be a change. It is when you are effecting a change that you have equity and fairness. What we need to carry Nigeria forward is equity and fairness, not might. We the founding fathers of PDP have been pushed aside. The people in control of PDP today are not the founding fathers of PDP.

In 1998, when we met and resolved to form PDP, we intended it to become the political party that will be comparable to the Democratic Party in America or the conservative party in England. That was the vision we had. The original founding fathers have all been kicked aside. Joiners are the people in control of the PDP at all strata. I believe that something is going to happen. One thing I know is that Nigeria must change, whether we like it or not.

What happened to President Umar Yar’Adua? When he came up, some of us thought he was going to make a significant change.
I know President Yar’Adua to be a very cautious human being. Particularly, when you are dealing with an environment, like Nigeria, you have to adopt caution as a weapon to protect yourself. Quiet honestly, some of the things the government has done, I wish they were done differently. I know that he has been putting so many things in place, which he will start implementing from his third year in office. A lot of committees were set up by the Federal Government silently, in almost all aspects of our national lives.

From June, the government is going to introduce a lot of dynamic changes that are really going to positively affect Nigerians. President Yar’Adua has not been very healthy and this has affected his performance. As you realize that most of the times he ought to be at a function, he is represented by somebody. I can assure you that President Yar’Adua is going to surprise Nigerians, starting from his third year. He will not disappoint Nigerians.

Does it mean he was not prepared if he was just setting up committees for the past two years, expecting to start performing in the third year? Does it mean he will be there for eight years?
The position here is that Yar’Adua inherited a disjointed administration that didn’t have focus and direction. He has to fix these things. It is taking time to, first of all, remove the rot. You can see that a lot of ways things are happening differently. Something when you rent a house, when you move in you discover there no water, toilet and many things are missing. That is the kind of environment that Yar’Adua found himself. Fundamental things are going to happen in the next one year and that will have a profound positive effect on the whole country. I agree with you that he has been slow.

Would you then endorse Yar’Adua for the second term because you said earlier he is not healthy?
In 1999, we agreed that there would be a rotation of North-South. The South took eight years and the North is going to take eight years. That is not negotiable. I want to say that very soon the president is going to tell Nigerians whether he has the capacity to go on or not. If Yar’Adua decides to go on, the North will allow him to continue, but if, on the other hand, he knows that his health would not allow him to go on, the North will decide and give Nigerians an acceptable candidate.

The only person, who can be sold by the North, both internationally and nationwide, is Ibrahim Babangida. He will step in if Yar’Adua is not going. Atiku’s time has expired because he can’t return to the PDP. Only the PDP can win the presidency. No other political party can win because we are on the ground and in control of the mechanic of control.

Do you honestly believe IBB will win election in this country?
We have carried out survey in the last two weeks. We have results coming in from the six political zones. The results show that over 70 per cent of Nigerians are ready to have IBB back in Aso Rock.

What exactly is happening in Benue State as there seems to be a realignment of political forces?
We have a political leader of Benue State, in the person of Rt. Hon. Gabriel Suswan. We had a former leader, George Akume. Obviously, you know when there is a transfer of power from one group to another group, there is bound to be a form of reaction and that is what has happened. In Benue State now, we have absolute political harmony and peace. The whole of Benue State has decided that the present government must have a second tenure in 2011.

We met and reexamined his activities in the last two years and discovered that he has affected the lives of everybody. You go to Makurdi today, all the streets are tarred; the same with Oturkpo that has never had any tarred road. You go to Gboko, the headquarters of Tiv people; the streets are tarred. There is rural electrification. They are communities that had never been linked before, but they are now being linked. There is peace and harmony among the elders. There is generational change. The people in Suswan administration are performing wonderfully. We met two weeks ago and all the elders said that the young man should have a second tenure. Gabriel Suswan is going to have a second term. This is not negotiable. Nobody is coming to challenge him in the PDP.

Michael Aondoakaa will not contest for the governorship. No PDP person from zone A, where the governorship is from will come out to contest. The Idomas are waiting for Apa State. Apa State, hopefully, will be created very soon. The Tiv people are not prepared to concede the governorship to the Idomas at this stage, simply because we are 70 per cent of the population and in a democracy the majority always carry the vote. The Idomas have got the president of the Senate; they have got the SSG. We the Tiv people will remain in control of the government house until 2015. Thereafter, we give it to zone C, which is Idoma speaking area, if Apa State has not been created.

Do you think it is possible to create state under this environment, even as the South East has a genuine case?
We have enough states for the country. I don’t think we need more states. Why the South East does not have more states is because of disunity. The Igbo people are the strongest people in Nigeria. I travelled to Cameroon border. In one village, there were 58 settlements. Out of these, 41 were Igbo families. If the Igbo were united, they would be carrying the torch for Nigeria. Unfortunately, it is not so. Who is the Igbo leader today? Every of them wants to be a leader instead of them to choose one person and say this is our leader. In Benue State, we have got a leader in that young man. He has brought vision and development to the state and we don’t want a change until 2015.

The Igbo, under Ohanaeze, should meet and present a leader, somebody who can speak for them. We in Tiv land have found out that we have not been able to make progress because of disunity and we are trying to put our act together, forgive one another and select a leader, because since the death of J.S. Tarka, we have never had any leader in Tiv land. You need somebody who will be a beacon for each of these major ethnic groups. That’s why the minorities are in a better position than us.

Also, the Hausa Fulani, who is their leader today? Likewise the Yoruba. This is a national problem.
However, in Orji Kalu we have seen the glimpses of a leader because he has positively touched the majority of the people. That is what leadership is all about. He didn’t inherit anything, like some of us. But today, by dint of handwork, he has achieved so much.

For Benue, we have a leader that has proved he is a leader. We have somebody who we are working with; we have a young man who is respecting elders and a young man who is sure of second term. Benue is one of the few states that the governor is sure of second term. The Senate president and the governor are working harmoniously.

Agreed that the North will have eight years under normal circumstances. However, if for any reason, God forbid, that Yar’Adua becomes indisposed, will the North allow Jonathan to continue?
The North cannot allow Jonathan to complete the term of Yar’Adua. The position here is that there will be an interim government within which somebody from the North will be elected to complete Yar’Adua’s term. We are not giving one day of this administration to the South. We will only allow Jonathan to be there till a replacement is found. It is not a constitutional matter; it is fairness.

Is it not inviting anarchy if for any reason Yar’Adua announces today that in stepping down because of ill-health, and the vice president does not step in, in line with the constitution?
Jonathan will be there for a short time. The North will only allow Jonathan pending when a replacement for Yar’Adua is found. I am not talking of probability, because such a thing can never happen and I don’t want to even think of it. Yar’Adua has recovered completely. He was sick, quite all right. Don’t you all get sick?

Are you in support of military option as Niger Delta?
I believe that this government has made a lot of efforts to prevent what is happening now. For the first time a Ministry of Niger Delta was created to address the injustice that the people of Niger Delta had suffered. But there are these young men who don’t want dialogue but confrontation. The people in Niger Delta are less than five million and they are confronting 140 million people. Government had to react, but I wish it was not this way because I have seen pictures and it is horrible. I’m appealing that the government and the military to find a peaceful way out of this. It is unfortunate.

I cannot condemn it because Nigerians were briefed before the action were taken. The military said it cannot wait to see its people being kidnapped, tortured and killed. I’m appealing to the people of the Niger Delta. They should know that the Niger Delta Ministry is a platform for them to resolve all their grievances. Let us stop the arms conflict, go into dialogue and find justice in Niger Delta. There is going to be peace. You can only have peace where there is equity, justice and fairness for everybody.
http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2009/may/30/national-30-05-2009-01.htm
Christianity EtcRe: View Christian Free-to-air Channels by JJYOU: 8:29pm On May 30, 2009
obinna5000:
You can view free-to-air satellite channels like LoveWorld, Chosen TV, Emmanuel TV, Omega, e.t.c. using a 90cm dish with KU-band and a satellite receiver or decoder like Strong 4653X or higher. Input this setting to the decoder:

Position - Intelsat 10 68.5 degrees East
Frequency - 12682 or 12722
Symbol rate - 26657
Polarization - Horizontal
FEC - 1/2

God bless. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Is Acceptance of Evolution A Threat To Belief In God - Theism? by JJYOU: 8:25pm On May 30, 2009
~Lady~:
The problem comes in when people use evolution or the big bang to prove that God doesn't exist, or use it as their excuse not to believe in God. Problem also comes in when people read Genesis literally and attack evolution.

[size=18pt]Hux wats up with the new name?[/size]
it is called evolution.
RomanceRe: Omitting Information Vs Lying In A Relationship - Which Is Worse? by JJYOU: 8:22pm On May 30, 2009
$osisi:
It's a small world.He'll eventually find out and dump her like a used tampon.
Go and mark that somewhere.
A twice divorced woman,what is she looking for in the institution of marriage again
hasn't she done enough "try your luck"
she now wants to ruin an innocent man's life by deceiving him into marriage.
what a shameless,heartless and coldblooded woman.
She is no marriage material and has no business being married to anyone except a 4 times divorced male.
Too highrisk even for a handshake.
you are always a GEM.
always good to know people like you are in the family.

this girl is a disgrace. how does she expect to keeep this a secret in this day and age?.
unfortunately she is not doing try your luck for Omo or elephant blue detergent.
this is another man's heart she is playing with here.
i agree with you she has no business being married again.

@op, how old is she that the man is finding it difficult to believe she has been there 2ce?
PoliticsRe: Download The Uwais Report Here -exclusive To Nairaland by JJYOU: 6:36pm On May 30, 2009
mikeansy:
There is no point giving example of stable countries to buttress your argument .  . . . .the political landscape in these countries is totally different from Nigeria.

The head of the electoral body in Ghana has been their since the days of Gerry Rawlings and has no time limits in office . . . . and what that means is that the man has perfected the system and knows that so long as he does the right thing his stay in office is just fine and he is not at risk of being sacked by a President who wants him to dance to his tune.

In US  . . . . they have credible institutions, credible processes that most Americans dont even know those who make up the Electoral college. So there is no need comparing their electoral process to ours.

In Nigeria we have a unique political landscape. . . . . .the INEC boss has time limits  . . .and the way it is designed every President can practically come into office and appoint an INEC boss he favours and who will dance to his tune. Our institutions are not mature enough and can only depend on men of strong will to grow.

So for now because we dont have institutions that can stand the rigours . . . . .who the INEC boss is, how he emerged is very important to whether we will even get close to having credible elections in Nigeria.
you meant corrupt political landscape what is unique in there?
FoodRe: How Pure Is Pure Water? by JJYOU: 6:06pm On May 30, 2009
that pure impure water should be banned in nigeria
FashionRe: Is Oluchi Onweagba The Most Beautiful Girl In Nigeria? by JJYOU: 6:01pm On May 30, 2009
most definately not
RomanceRe: Should I Let My Feelings Known To Him? Pls Help! by JJYOU: 12:21pm On May 29, 2009
ask him what he thinks of you. you dont loose your head for that do u?
PoliticsRe: Gov. Daniels Cook Caught With 400 Million Naira by JJYOU: 11:01am On May 29, 2009
wbb
CrimeRe: Father Who Picked Prostitute To Take Teen Son's Virginity As A Gift Spared Jail by JJYOU(op): 10:34am On May 29, 2009
tayoccu:
for crying out loud, the boy's only 14!!!

the old man outta be locked away for a while.
agreed
FamilyRe: Why Do Husbands Get Bored Of Their Wives Soon After Wedding? by JJYOU: 10:20am On May 29, 2009
mrsb:
Hi All. I've been married for 7 years and it’s not always easy. Marriage is a wonderful blessing, particularly when the kids came too but it is HARD WORK. Especially for a woman! We have to try and find a compromise between being a respectful, submissive and Christian wife who can take care of the home, kids and also hold down a job/career - and yes, we also have to still try and look hot (weight, hair, nails etc) and be sexy when we've been up all night with babies, spent the weekend running around after in-laws and slogged away in the office. It is very easy to slip into the comfort zone and either be asleep or looking like shit in trackies by the time husband comes home after a long day. Its not what he wants to come home to! I try my best to have a clean and calm home for him to come home to - and a clean and cute looking wifey too!!  tongue
18pt]Its super important to marry someone you genuinely cannot live without and someone who you really get on with [/size]- we are really good friends and I'm lucky enough that he talks to me about business issues and asks my advice on things to do with his office - HOWEVER we must be careful not to slip into the "best friend" role where the love becomes like brother/sister - and as most of the guys in this forum joyously pointed out - it IS about the sex, if that slips, all else fails, and interest wanes, and we all know how many chicks are waiting to service your man in Naija if you let them,

Of course, some guys are assholes and will get bored anyway, no matter what their wife does!  lipsrsealed
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silkybaby [/b:
link=topic=275732.msg3922322#msg3922322 date=1243281925]
Usually after wedding you tend to discover each other like you are unwrapping your wedding gifts, then you discover things you did not know about the other person.

A lot of men like excitement so they cheat if they can't get it from their wives. It is usually the woman who works harder to make the marriage work.

Nevertheless, you are there to complement each other, if you are the bubbling type & he is the boring type then you have to come up with new ideas to keep the fire burning, you have to find out what makes him tick. Women work harder to make things work.

[b]Communication is very important, but don't nag, talk to him about how you feel, cause he might be ignorant - some men don't know any better.


Always give him something to look forward to. You have to be his wife, his girlfriend, his best pal etc. Be approachable !!! be adventurous!!!

Always look good even when you are in doors. Don't look like an old woman while breast feeding.
topsy25  10:57 AM
IF YOU MARRY UR FRIEND, SHE WONT GET U BORED [/b]Cool

I dated my wife for 9 years, 11mths and 17days before we got married. I dont see her just as a sex object, but as a lover, friend, mother, sister and my better half. I've never been bored with her and I can say same for her Grin Wink

Please dont get me wrong; we do have our problems and misunderstandings, but we'll always come together to talk about it cos we know shouting and nagging at each other will never solve our problems but rather add to it. [b]Most importantly we pray together
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blessed are you guys for knowing what you know.  sadly this microwave generation of get it here and now cant wait for anything let alone the right person they cant live without. marriage is hard work like every good thing what you put in is what you likely get out of it. i do know there are jerks out there too who dont care whatever you do. better be a looser in love than a miserable looser in life
CareerRe: Lean Management & Principles by JJYOU: 9:57am On May 29, 2009
people wey no go school dey abuse una wey go school dey temperamental like mama sule the akara seller for mushin. nawao
Christianity EtcRe: The Seven Atrocities Of Pastor E.A .Adeboye. by JJYOU: 9:53am On May 29, 2009
luvinhubby:
If he`s a criminal, why has`nt he been arrested, and none of his members has ever said he took money from them forcefuly, so what makes him a criminal. You are just jealous and misguided
will you accept seconded as my corrected answer?
PoliticsRe: Father And Son Appointed As Chairman And Managing Director Of Fed. Govt. Agency by JJYOU: 9:48am On May 29, 2009
sleekymag:
@JJYOU
Though i know it's wrong to have a situation as this (father & son) in the same FG parastatal as Chairman & MD especially when its not in tandem with theFederal Character Commision policies.

But comparing OBJ and his daughter thing as a PDP affair, i beg to differ, isn't only a nigerian affair. I'd say its a thing common to the rich and powerful (some, not all) in every society. Asides from the fact that the nature of their public offices is/was by general election. Abi how would you describe the Bush family, who produced Father & Son as US Presidents, and another son as Florida governor when George W. Bush himself was Texas governor b4 becoming president. Abi how would you also describe Bill Clinton who was president and his wife was 1st Lady, and then became a Senator when her husband left office, and even contested to become US President, and still managed to get appointed as US Seceretary of State. Examples like this abound all over the world in public office and business.
would you mind having electricity 24/7 since you want to go the US way. must you copy anything wrong. what made iyabo more qualified than any one else from which ever village she got into the senate?
Christianity EtcRe: Disbelief In God. by JJYOU: 9:43am On May 29, 2009
wbb
CrimeRe: Helen Ukpabio. A Heartless Evil Woman by JJYOU: 9:18am On May 29, 2009
Ekabass:
The issue of witchcraft whether of child or adult is real and not novel. why is evang helen the one suddenly to be held responsible?I live in calabar and until i stumbled into thisthere is no one reported case against her or her church members. the exaggeration and lies are calculated to tarnish her image and the gospel of christ. Did u guys verify these stories and what does it take to interview the residece of calabar as to the veracity or otherwise. Its unfare and i persive the lady deserves an apology . it will be wise if you do smthg to repair the wrong to evangelist helen. [size=18pt] Obviously some akwaibomites are tring to makemoney from the resent hit in nigerin fastest biz returns: NGO[/size]. Its sheer wickedness on a woman when witch doctors abound in the open in nigeria perpetraiting evil and going scot free. why not arrest her if you have any justification. Its shameful that an international press could come this low onfacts finding .
you are right. behind this ugly tarnishing of nigeria's and helen ukpabio's image is Debbie Ariyo of afruca. as you rightly mentioned the word NGO she is an NGO personified at least by the returns she sends to charity commission. what she fails to tell people is her membership of the grail message which she is now hiding. http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/registeredcharities/ScannedAccounts/Ends27%5C0001093027_ac_20080331_e_c.pdf please read page 22 and tell me how she shares the £137K P/A with her alleged 3 other part timers

here is a typical interview " Why First Ladies cannot solve child trafficking problems in Nigeria – AFRUCA boss[b][/b] "
Modupe Debbie Ariyo

In the late 1990s, there were many cases of African children being brought to the United Kingdom who were ending up as victims of serious abuse (or what the government here calls ”significant harm”) and even death. Many names come to mind including that of Jude Akapa, Damilola Taylor and Victoria Climbie. At this time, I was working in the British Civil Service as a Senior Policy Advisor on Entrepreneurship. I was concerned that Africans were not speaking out about the issues around child cruelty and abuse and that there wasn‘t a platform with which to advocate for changes in policy and practice to help protect African children. I initially started AFRUCA in 2001 as an awareness raising campaign. But it very quickly metamorphosed into a full-fledged charity. It also became very apparent that because of the linkages between Africans in the UK and in Africa, our work cannot be limited to the UK alone. There are more child abuse going on in Africa and we need to have a continuum between our UK works and works in Africa to enable us address it.

If the bulk of the problems you set out to tackle is located in Africa, why does your headquarters have to be in London here?

This is a question that many people have asked us. However, the truth of the matter is that we have gained so much experience, expertise, knowledge and skills not forgetting money as a Europe-based charity working with African children. We are now in a very unique position as Africans working in the UK and in Africa to address issues affecting African children based on the qualities we bring on board. We have access to networks, contacts and resources which I strongly believe will not be available to us if we were based in Africa. We are in a much stronger position to attract funding to support work in Africa, build strong partnerships with fellow African organisations on the ground and jointly work with them to effect changes. It is a very strategic positioning which I believe has worked out well for us as an organisation and which I believe will really impact positively on our work in Africa.

You came to Nigeria sometime in 2003 wanting to set up a Nigerian office, what has come of that plan?

The idea to set up in Nigeria was to enable us address the linkages between our UK work and work in Africa especially in the area of child trafficking. The truth of the matter is that majority of the children and families we are working with in the UK are of Nigerian origin. In terms of figures, Nigerians are the majority Africans in the UK. Unfortunately, we were not able to actualise our aims of establishing an office. It is a source of deep sadness for me because I think we could have achieved a lot for the children here if we had been established in Nigeria.

What challenges did you face in trying to set up the office in Nigeria?

Sincerely speaking, the Nigerian environment is very inimical to genuine business development and it stifles ideas, innovation and efforts. But what was most difficult to deal with was the level of corruption and seemingly lack of appreciation of what we were trying to do by some government agencies. For example, it was a shock to my system to be told by a government official in one of the states that we had to inflate our budget before receiving support from the state to do some work. Of course, the inflated portion of the funds would then go to him and others for their ”help”. In short, we had to bribe officials before we could get funds to help children in need. That was a very difficult experience for me because it was something I had never encountered before. It was difficult to see that government officials tasked with developing programmes to alleviate children‘s sufferings were more interested in their own personal enrichment, rather than supporting us to make changes happen. [color=Black]The fact that many politicians‘ wives had their own NGOs was also problematic for us as some local funders would rather fund them because of their connections, than fund us. Without funding, there wasn‘t so much we could do. So, in the end, we had to postpone the setting up of the office in Nigeria.[/color] [size=14pt]it becomes clearer and clearer that afruca and debbie's only aim is getting more money from the govt. why is the money collected abroad not enough to run what she is claiming to do in africa? is that not why the money were collected in the first place?[/size]

So, for AFRUCA, what had been the discoveries on child trafficking and human trafficking generally?

It is very interesting that many NGOs and government agencies in Nigeria focus exclusively on trafficking for sexual exploitation to Europe. Of course, this is a major problem, but our experience at AFRUCA is very different. Most of the young people we have worked with were trafficked for domestic servitude. These are young people tricked with promises of a better life - good education, better prospects being brought here to the UK to work as slaves, in people‘s homes. We have come across many horrific stories of young lives destroyed by this because when the families are tired of having them, they are thrown out on the streets with no identification, no money and no prospects. In addition, there are growing cases of old women also brought here to work as slaves and who suffer exactly the same way. I have never heard any Nigerian agency highlight this fact or what the plans are to tackle it.

Your organisation has been doing a lot of work in other parts of Africa, why not in Nigeria?

Well that is another question many Nigerians have asked me, sometimes with some justified anger! But the truth of the matter is this: We are a bonafide African charity run by African people, not just Nigerians. We have been established to cater for all African children, not just Nigerian children. Having said that, as I mentioned earlier, Nigeria is the only country that we have attempted to actually establish a presence in 2003 but this failed due to the reasons I highlighted. In other countries, we work in partnership with already established NGOs on the ground. It is important to say that we have not faced the same level of corruption in other countries as we have experienced here in Nigeria. Truthfully, it is much easier to work in other countries like Ghana, where we have a project on street children, for example. It would be a great source of joy for me to be able to have an AFRUCA operation in Nigeria where we can address many of the issues confronting our children. However, there are so many constraints and I do hope that this time around, we would be able to deal with them. The work in Nigeria will definitely continue. It was postponed, not cancelled.

As a Nigerian, don‘t you think the problem of child trafficking deserves your group‘s attention in Nigeria?

It does for many reasons. Nigeria has the highest number of trafficked victims to Europe; more than any other African country. We were so concerned about this fact that in 2003, we organised a conference in Lagos termed: Trafficking of Nigerian Children to the UK: Denouncing the Better Life Syndrome”. Our plan was to establish a child trafficking project to follow up on the conference, as part of our work in Nigeria. Unfortunately, it proved quite difficult to get the necessary support, not least because of course there is WOTCLEF, run by the wife of the former Vice-President. Most of the funders we approached for support refused to support us because they were already supporting WOTCLEF. [size=14pt]MONEY , MONEY AND MORE MONEY![/size] When we added that to the other constraints, it was not realistic at that point to do any meaningful work on child trafficking in Nigeria because of a lack of financial support.

How would you relate the problem of child trafficking with some of the immigration problems in the UK where you are based?

Victims of child trafficking here in the UK are some of the most vulnerable people in the country. When a child is trafficked to the UK at the age of 9, 10 or 11, her identity is changed so she is given someone else‘s names and date of birth. When such a young person is now thrown out of the house because they are no longer useful, the crucial thing at that point is their identity. There is no way of proving who they are, their age or date of birth or their immigration status. This is a double whammy for the victims because without any papers, they are condemned to a life of penury, suffering and exploitation. Many of the young people, when they are caught, are deported by the immigration service. They are returned to a country they left 10, 12 years ago, with no memory of whom or where their parents are. They become vulnerable on the streets of Lagos and other cities. Some of the girls become prostitutes in order to survive. It is a very distressing problem and we do have a project in London providing support to such young people when they approach us for help so they can get their lives back on track.

Many First Ladies have attempted to make campaigns on child trafficking their pet projects in Nigeria; do you think these have had impact or they have just been political jamborees?

I have a lot of respect for the work of WOTCLEF and Idia Renaissance. I do think that in the time they were first ladies, the wife of the former Vice-President, Mrs. Atiku Abubakar and also former Edo State first lady, Mrs. Eki Igbinedion, did effect some positive changes. But these are exceptions, not the rule. They are also very time-limited activities. Once their husbands left power, the projects stopped or became seriously constrained. That is why I do not support such projects because they are not long lasting. It is impossible to have a vision or long term objectives because your husband is in power for such a short space of time. Meanwhile, the issues we are dealing with required long-term solutions. You cannot solve child trafficking in 8 years. Charities with longer term visions and with little political affiliations are in a much better position to effect changes because they are more focused and can plan longer-term.

What specific areas of our culture do you consider as promoting cases of child abuse?

The increase in the number of our children branded as witches is very disconcerting. I know that people are very concerned about what is happening in Akwa Ibom State regarding child branding, but it is not an Akwa Ibom problem alone. I grew up in Yorubaland and it is equally a problem there. Clearly, we need to look at the role of some faith organisations in promoting this very wicked practice. The growing problem of using children in rituals is one that is equally very sad to see. The practice of using children as domestic servants while depriving them of access to education and a decent life is a very terrible cultural phenomenon that has been exported to Europe and elsewhere. Our strong belief in discipline means that many children are growing up having more contact with the cane than with their parents. We need to stop treating our children like donkeys and goats and show more love and affection, talk more to our children rather than attempt to solve all problems with punishment. The practice of child marriage in my view is society-sanctioned paedophilia and it is incomprehensible to me that a child of 12 can be seen as someone‘s wife. Many girls‘ lives have been destroyed through the lack of access to education, the sexual and emotional abuse and early child birth experienced leading to serious conditions like Fistula. Child marriage is really an evil practice that must be stopped.

How soon can AFRUCA intervene in the Nigerian situation as far as child trafficking and abuse are concerned?

I think we are in a much better position now to have a full fledged operation in Nigeria than we were in 2003. We have grown significantly in the UK, especially in the last one year with our headquarters in London and a soon to be established office in Manchester in the North of England. We are consolidating our growth in the country but at the same time looking to address the causes of the issues we are addressing. These causes lie in Africa. So, it is inevitable that we will have an office in Africa. Of course Nigeria is a strong attraction for us not only because of my origin but also because of the sheer number of children and the issues they face. We have started to work to sort out the necessary documentation. Once all these are dealt with, then we will be ready to go to work with the same seriousness, steadfastness and dedication that we are known for here in the UK. We do not just want to have little projects in Nigeria, we want to be very pro-active in addressing some of the issues I highlighted above. These are urgent issues but we need to ensure we are properly established so we can deal with them as seriously as possible.
http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art200903037235654

http://www.communitycare.co.uk/Articles/2007/12/12/106771/child-trafficking-and-slavery-in-the-uk-debbie-ariyo-reports.html

this is afruca's figures yet she is still busy asking for nigerian states to give her more money to stop kids being " trafficed " source http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/ShowCharity/RegisterOfCharities/CharityWithoutPartB.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=1093027&SubsidiaryNumber=0

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31 Mar 2008 £218,348 £213,176 29 Sep 2008 12 Nov 2008 Accounts
31 Mar 2007 £146,954 £160,097 06 Dec 2007 23 Nov 2007 Accounts
31 Mar 2006 £100,997 £53,504 16 Jan 2007 16 Jan 2007 Accounts
31 Mar 2005 £40,466 £41,987 15 Feb 2006 (15 days late) 15 Feb 2006 (15 days late) Accounts
31 Mar 2004 £45,609 £44,981 31 Jan 2005 31 Jan 2005 Accounts
PoliticsRe: Father And Son Appointed As Chairman And Managing Director Of Fed. Govt. Agency by JJYOU: 2:24pm On May 28, 2009
PDP never dissapoint. keeping it in the family as OBJ and his daughter
CrimeFather Who Picked Prostitute To Take Teen Son's Virginity As A Gift Spared Jail by JJYOU(op): 2:20pm On May 28, 2009
Father who picked prostitute to take teen son's virginity as a gift spared jail

By Mirror.co.uk 15/05/2009

A man who sought out a prostitute to take his 14-year-old son’s virginity as a gift has been spared jail today.

The Polish national, who cannot be named for legal reasons, took the boy out in his car and allowed him to pick out a prostitute in Nottingham’s red-light district, a court heard.

But the 42-year-old father was arrested after the teenager chose an undercover police officer.

The full-time carer, from Bulwell, Nottingham, admitted a charge of trying to solicit a woman to have sex with a child and was given a 10-month prison sentence, suspended for a year.

The court heard that the father was arrested in the Mapperley area of Nottingham during an undercover operation by the city's vice squad.

Adrian Harris, prosecuting, said: "It was about 11.30pm on July 26 last year. An undercover police officer whose code name was Sarah said a car drove up to her. It was driven by the defendant who beckoned her over.

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"He was not alone in the car and in the passenger seat was a boy. The defendant said: 'Hello baby, how much?'

"She said: 'It depends what you want.' He replied: 'Come on baby, what is it that you do? How much for a proper shag for him?' And then he pointed to his son."

Mr Harris said the undercover officer replied the cost would be £25 but this was negotiated down to £20.

"The defendant said he would pull over and at this point he was arrested by plainclothes police officers and both he and the boy were interviewed separately."

Mr Harris added: "The boy said that they had driven past the girl and his dad pointed to her and said 'will she do?'

"He said 'yes' and they had turned round. He said his dad did this because he was still a virgin and he was taking care of that for him."
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/05/15/father-who-picked-prostitute-to-take-teen-son-s-virginity-as-a-gift-spared-jail-115875-21362182/ this is injustice
Christianity EtcRe: How Am I To Pay My Tithe? by JJYOU: 2:16pm On May 28, 2009
Pastor AIO:
God's spirit does not inspire hate and lies.  I am yet to see any hatred or lies on this thread.
thanks. i didnt say on the thread. just wanted to know. 
the late derek prince said he always erred on the side of love and caution when being used to correct or rebuke a brethren because love never fails.

the hatred in most other threads callig pastors fraudulent , crminals etc borders on hatred dont you think?
Christianity EtcRe: Is Christian Tithing A Salvational Issue? by JJYOU: 2:08pm On May 28, 2009
pilgrim.1:
By the way, what caught your interest on the subject?
mmmmmmm what can i say

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