₦airaland Forum

Why do Nigerians love deceiving themselves? Is it to make them feel good or what?

Sometimes i feel that a lot of stories we read on this platform are fake.

How can this be real? I don't believe that someone can be this stupid and weak. It defies all understanding.

Bevista:
I agree completely that all preventable deaths should be prevented. But why are you lot so desperate to prevent only Covid-19 deaths?

The government allows Boko Haram and Herdsmen to slaughter 1000s of citizens every year. More than 100k maternal mortalities every year, more than 50k road accident deaths every year, I can go on and on. Malnutrition and poor access to proper medical care kills millions every year. Does these other lives not matter?

The globalists, through their media propaganda machines, have succeeded in brainwashing you lot to think that covid-19 is the worst thing to befall humanity. A virus with a 98% recovery rate and less than 0.2% case fatality rate.

I repeat, if this is about public health and saving lives, the government has more important issues to worry about.

Mtshewwwwwww

Bevista:
You probably missed my point. I was in no way trying to trivialize the Covid-19 deaths.

My point is - why are you so interested in stopping those 1000 Covid-19 deaths but show absolutely no concern whatsoever for the 60k road accident deaths? The reality is - the only reason you rank Covid-19 deaths higher is because the media wants you to...not because it is truly more important. They even tell you to wear a face mask just to create a mass consciousness. You happily wear that nonsense despite the obvious health implications of breathing recycled Co2. Go read about Respiratory Acidosis.

It is not about the media, it is common sense. Road accidents are not contagious and i don't believe authorities are not concerned about road accidents.
In the country where i live, nobody drives a car without passing a road test. You will carry an inspector and drive round inner roads and highway and demonstrate that you understand all road rules and can apply them before you are giving a licence to drive. There are penalties applied when you are caught violating road rules. Yet accidents still kill thousands of people yearly. So what else do you want them to do in that regard? Should they now do nothing about covid because they have not been able to solve the problem of road accidents?

I highlighted why the issue of covid is not just about deaths alone In case you missed it, see below

"Let us also not forget why covid 19 is a problem. It is a problem because it is capable of making large number of people sick at the same time thereby overwhelming current hospital capacities and health care workers. What is means is that even people with other health conditions, pregnant women needing emergencies etc may not be able to see a bed space when needed in the peak of the crisis so they also are in danger plus the fact that they can also contract the disease if they hospital is filled with covid patients. If covid could only sicken say 30 people in a month, nobody would have seen it as a problem as health care systems will handle it."

Media or no media, every life that dies is regrettable. So if there is something that can be done to prevent deaths from covid, i don't think it should be a problem irrespective of the fact that other things are killing people too. If someone escape death by accident, should covid now kill the person?

Besides nobody wears masks 24/7. It is only required in public places. I don't wear mask all the time even though i go out because i'm not always in a public place. If masks was that dangerous, what of people who wear them everyday as part of their PPE in normal times?

sweetmelanin:
First of all coronavirus is not a death sentence. Those who have lost their lives had severe underlying issues, are elderly or immunocompromised.

Secondly, if you are wearing a mask and you truly believe it gives you ultimate "protection", how does the next man's refusal to wear one affect you in anyway? Afterall you've got your mask on!

Some people think because they are not elderly or immunocompromised therefore they are 100% healthy but that reasoning is fatally flawed. Someone could have underlying health conditions without even knowing. Besides, why should the elderly or immunocompromised allowed to die if it can be preventable? Would you be happy if your elderly grandma dies as a result of covid? Or if a diabetic person you know die due to covid complications? If they have to die, let them die at their appointed time not because of covid.

Bevista:
According to official figures on the WHO website, road accident kills over 60k per year in Nigeria. Last time I checked, total number of deaths from Covid-19 is less than 1k.

If it's about public health and saving lives, should the government not be more concerned about road accidents? Also, as some of those accidents are a result of irresponsible behaviors (like over speeding), should the government not enforce a 15km/hr speed limit on all highways, so that irresponsible drivers like you (who like to do over 100km/hr) will not cost the lives of other innocent road users? Go figure!

If there was no corona virus or if there was a way to stop it, that less than that 1k Nigerians as you said would probably have been alive today. These are people's mother, father, sisters, brothers, children, breadwinners. They are not just mere statistics. It could be you tomorrow but i pray it shall never get to you. Probably you do not know anyone who has died due to covid, i know someone who could have been alive today if not for covid. He was bouncing and okay as at July 1st but he is no more today. How do you think his family he left behind is feeling?

Let us also not forget why covid 19 is a problem. It is not just because it is killing people but it is also a problem because it is capable of making large number of people sick at the same time thereby overwhelming current hospital capacities and health care workers. What is means is that even people with other health conditions, pregnant women needing emergencies etc may not be able to see a bed space when needed in the peak of the crisis so they also are in danger for lack of care plus the fact that they can also contract the disease if they hospital is filled with covid patients. If covid could only sicken say 30 people in a month, nobody would have seen it as a problem as health care systems will handle it.

So what is being fought is not just the covid but to ensure that health care system is not overrun and put others who do not have covid but will need health care system in danger.

Or maybe you want people to keep dying of corona virus after all malaria and accident also kill more people? Why would we allow more avenues of death rather than reducing the avenues people could die. Are we then making the world a more dangerous place or trying to make it better? Just think about it for a second

sweetmelanin:
And if they make the vaccination compulsory?

Nobody is going to make vaccination compulsory at least not in western societies. You can see how it is even hard to make mask compulsory in the west not to talk of compulsory vaccination. Not everyone take flu shots every year that kills thousands of people yearly and it was not made mandatory. The only places where vaccinations can be made compulsory are places like China, North Korea, middle east where leaders have absolute powers. People will go to court if they make vaccinations compulsory in the west.

In fact, there are more chances of vaccines made mandatory in Nigeria than in the west. If Buhari really wants to make vaccination compulsory today, who will stop him? The courts? he can decide not to obey court order citing national security and there is nothing you can do about it. If you protest, police will use you as a target practice.

When the vaccine comes out, it would have passed through all trial stages and confirmed to be okay for people. The stages of these trials are not secret, you can read about them. This is how all the vaccines today were created. The polio, tb etc vaccines children take today were created as a result of a pandemic decades ago

When it comes out, those who do not have problem taking flu vaccines every year will still take it and they are the majority. Once majority take it, it won't be a problem anymore as hospitals will not be overwhelmed which is the most important thing in a pandemic. The target will be for majority to take it as it happens during flu shots. Conspiracy theorists are just killing themselves for nothing, nobody send them sef but they don't even know

The conspiracy theorist who don't take it will go to the hospital normally when they fall ill like they would go if they have flu and also survive or die.

To me, i don't understand conspiracy theorists. If you or your children have taken any form of vaccine before, then i don't understand the big deal about vaccines. But if they have any other way of making the society return to normal, they are free to do it yet they won't provide any solution but are always looking at who wants to kill them.

This geographical space called Nigeria stinks

Nigerians in Nigeria dey shame me.

Too bad

Useless meeting.

Burutai: Sai baba, we are winning the war. In fact, we killed 3,000 bandits yesterday
Buhari: Ok, that is good
Burutai: Anyone telling you otherwise is an enemy
Buhari: Ok, carry go, i dey your back
Burutai: Sai baba till 2050
Buhari: Burutai till 2050

Laugh and hugs
meeting ends

Buhari to Nigerians through Garba Shehu: I have received briefing and i have ordered the army to flush out bandits and bring perpetrators to book

Hailers/Zombies: Buhari is doing well, there is no insecurity. Sai baba
Wailers: Stupid man, idiot, boko haram sponsor
Neutrals: Stupid man, who will save Nigeria?

Godlovesyou28:
Wow! I just woke up from my "pill-induced" sleep to see this. Out pouring of concern
What can I say?

For all your sincere love and concern am so grateful and overwhelmingly encouraged

for those who find it hard to believe me, it doesn't matter if you believe me or not.

For the those who have suggested that I go back to my original source, trust me when I say that "I have squeezed out every drop of juice from that orange". I can't push further and will never use undue force when I should show gratitude, but your pragmatic approach only shows how willing you are to help solve my problem.

For those who want me to approach it spiritually (I have been told many things, especially that my real mum is alive but will not dare contact me), I have been praying though sometimes my faith challenges me but I am growing by Gods Grace. Thanks

I am also weighing my legal options but not yet exhausted my other options.

And No, my older siblings will not help.

Yes lease I forget I cannot say too much anymore for fear that I am being monitored but I will like you to know that I feel surrounded by a family and will carry you along in a manageable fashion. Thank you for your kind words, tears and loving embrace. God bless you all.

I felt your pain as i read through your post. However, i will advise you to let sleeping dogs lie. The reason is that what you want to know will break you and make you more miserable. Are you sure you can handle the info? Apart from that, it will break your father's family, in fact, the whole family will be shaken. This is the reason why no one wants to talk about it. It is not palatable to the ears.

The woman who gave you this info has an agenda. It is either she wants to break your whole family or she has a genuine burden in her heart to let you know your true sef, the secret is heavy on her. I can sense she is mixing the right info with some half truths in order to confuse you. The reason is that she does not want to be the one to tell you exactly, who knows if there was an oath taken involved. However, she is given you some clues with the hope that you can find the missing link yourself.

I have an idea on what could likely have happened by connecting the dots in your post but saying it as it is may make you feel very terrible. That is why i am advising you to move on with your life. Some things are better left unknown.

Why can't Nigeria develop 2 or 3 existing universities into World class or even Continental class and attract foreigners. Even if we can't attract Americans, Europeans and Asians, at least we can attract students from Africa and make some money for the country instead of wasting money on creating additional substandard schools.

Omihanifa:
What bothers me In all of these is the president's aloofness

Too many corruption scandal under his watch and yet he's not even talking or sanctioning anyone

The NDDC scandal is even enough for any right thinking president to react.
How can the NDDC board squander 40billion in 3 months and yet the president hasn't said anything

Maybe the president is even under a spell or his brains have been hypothesized

The president is a dullard. A dullard or olodo can never be in charge of people smarter than him. His is just there to sign papers and read prepared speeches to Nigerians.

2015 - will generate
2016 - will generate
2017- will generate
2018 - will generate
2019- will generate
2020 - will generate

2021- 2100 - will generate

Tetehjewels:
You are not a very intelligent fellow.

Don't you know he retained him there for easier probing because if he was removed or attempted to be removed he would have made serious efforts to cover his tracks?

Have you never heard of subterfuge in strategy in your life before?

spin doctors, continue. You are doing well

efighter:
No, he is not going the way of his predecessors. His predecessors were never prosecuted despite looting the funds they recover. Past governments do not prosecute their appointees, they just cover the loot and let the looter enjoy his/her loot. But, Magu's case is different. Buhari is prosecuting Magu and Magu will go to jail.

Obasanjo, Yar'Adua and Goatluck never prosecuted their appointees, they just cover and protect them. Even when Sanusi Lamido was screaming that Deizani Madueke was looting, Goatluck Jonaddaft covered Diezani Madueke and instead sacked Sanusi Lamido while the puffpuff cheeked world bank fraudster Ngozi Iwealla just looked on when she should be the most concerned as the Minister of Finance.

Spin doctors, una well done

GboyegaD:
Hmmm......there is no smoke without fire. It's all a case of two thieves fighting.

Let say you are an electrical engineer supervising over electricians. If those technicians discover that you don't know anything, they will have a free ride. You will see them doing stupid jobs and you the electrical engineer will agree with them and thank them and they will be laughing at you from behind. Trust me, the first thing subordinates do when they meet a new boss is to use style to seize his knowledge capacity. If they see you are sound, they will give you respect and do their job properly otherwise they will do anything they like.

What i explained above is what is happening in buharis administration. People who work under buhari knows he is a dummy, useless like the 'P' in Psychology. That is why you see them doing anyhow knowing fully well that their boss is just there only to read a prepared speech to Nigerians. Malami is furthering his own personal interest, Magu is championing his own interest, Burutai is doing how he pleases etc just because no one is in control. The only man who was in control is now dead and all the power brokers in the cabal are now seizing the moment to advance their interest

I hope politicians will not go and hoard the imported ones for their own tests while they use the Made in Naija own for the common man

Nigerians are specialists in fighting other people's fight. You fought for Oshomole against Ize Iyamu in 2016, abusing people, fighting and killing people on his behalf and today, he is now with the same Ize Iyamu. What would you tell supporters of Ize Iyamu in 2016 who you abused, fought and killed today? There are many examples like the above.

Atiku, Saraki, Meleye have all being in APC, PDP and have been an ally of buhari at some point and there is a possibility that all of them could become an ally of buhari again in future
When will Nigerian youths understand that the politicians are all the same irrespective of party and they are just using them for playing games? Is it that they are daft or what? I don't just understand.

techmo:




Buhari is busy sacking and frustrating Magu, the only hardworking Service Chief/ head of Agency, while shielding the extremely docile and ineffective Security heads

IGP gave a powerful presentation on police reform, he listed every thing needed by the force, from bullet proof and combat gears, to Atleast 3 Armoured Personnel Carriers , drones , CCTV and recruitment of Atleast 20,000 more officers, he gave a budget of 1bn USD or there about and assured perfect internal security with this, Buhari and the senate barely threw the suggestion away while scamming us with 2bn USD annual military budget which they buy fairly used weapons with


.

Buhari is not the one sacking Magu, it is Malami. Buhari is just there to sign papers and read prepared speech.

Wasky101:
I don't know but should this be like a plus for Buharis anti corruption campaign?
Nobody is beyond investigation.
For me I think it is d right way to go except there are skeletons in the cupboard that we don't know off even now that the cupboard is wide open

You don't get it.
If Buhari was in charge, Magu should have been sacked like 4 years ago. The allegations against him is not new, it didn't just happen yesterday. The issue is that the real president Abba Kyari defending him and protecting him is gone. Now, Malami has seized the opportunity to get a pound of flesh on him due to his own personal issues with him. If Kyari was alive, nothing would have happened to him. Buhari is just dancing to the tune of the power blocks in his cabal. Buhari has no mind of his own.

Nigerian politicians can fool you if you are not smart enough to see through their plots. Spin doctors are now spinning it in favour of buhari when he himself is the culprit in all these nonsense because he is not in charge of anything in his government.

NaijadrivaCars:
Enjoying the theatrics.

las las, they are all the same. I pity the masses.

When Nigerians condemn corruption, they are not doing it because they genuinely hate corruption but because their enemy is the one involved. When their favorite person is involved in the same corruption, they defend them instead of condemn them.

Even a thief still get mouth for Naija

If as Nigerians, we exhibit this alarming hate among each other, why then should we expect a white man to love a black man. There seems to be no post on this forum that does not display chronic hatred among Nigerians. I won't be surprised if these people will be the first to judge a white man for racism. Too bad

I eat Nigerian food 99% of the time. Apart from pizza, i don't think i have eaten any other oyibo food. My wife cooks all kinds of soup. I can't eat oyibo foods, it is tasteless to me

Nigeria and sycophancy. So disgusting.

This is one of the reason an average oyibo person don't have any savings. Too much flexing mehn.

Una dey owe China money ooo.

No let China vex for una

Pension Chief or Pension Thief?

@OP stay back in Nigeria.

If you must travel, then travel to countries where you can make a home yourself and children and get a valuable second passport. Unfortunately, there are just few countries in this category.
Don't just travel for the sake of making money or for the sake of travelling.

Sanusiaderoju12:
My friend told me he has one boss working in one big company in
Nigeria earning over #250,000 monthly. Despite this huge salary,
this man still decided to resign & left Nigeria with his family (wife
& 2 kids)to Canada. He asked his boss why he took such step
despite the fact that he's doing fine in Nigeria, he was amazed with
the response of his boss, the man said "I DID IT FOR MY KIDS".
Does that mean he sees no future for his kids here?
Does that mean there's nothing to hope on here?
Does that mean the man is not being patriotic?
Too many questions running through my mind on that.

Anyway, i won't say there is no future because i don't want to be a carrier of bad news.

However, it is a simple analysis.
I don't know how old you are but....... If you can

Look back at Nigeria 20 years ago,
Now, look at Nigeria today
How do you see Nigeria 20 years from now based on yesterday and today? There lies your answer