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michelin89:Sure. . .some fish and sea animals live in separate environments. . .some fish are capable of surviving only in fresh water while others in salt water. . . a flood will mix both fresh water and salt water together there by killing all the fish ad other marine animals that survive only in fresh water. . .The writers of the story do not have such knowledge in fact it the story were not a myth plants too would have needed to be saved not just lad animals. . . . |
noetic15:I laugh in greek. . . This is a LIE when will you people stop lying to your selves. . .it has bee scientifically prove by which scientist. . pls go ahead ad present the scientific peer reviewed paper that shows that the noah's myth ever happened go ahead and present the scientific peer reviewed paper and name the geologist that were involved ad their findings. . . The problem is that even christians themselves disagree strongly with what you have said and some christian geologist have said that it was not a global flood because there is ABSOLUTE NO evidence to support a global flood. . . In an article at http://home.entouch.net/dmd/gflood.htm , Glenn Morton provides sufficient evidence that a global flood never occured. Morton is a geophysicist and he is a christian. His favorite evidence against the global flood is hydrodynamic sorting ad he went i great detail to explain it. Morton discusses hydrodynamic sorting at length in the article and explained why there is absolute no evidence for the mythical Noah's flood and how it was impossible for it to have left no evidece at all it if had happened on a global scale. According to Wikipedia, hydrodynamics is "the study of liquids in motion.". . . .He even explain that a global Flood violates the second law of thermodynamics, . .there is no scientific evidence for any global flood. . . |
Deep Sight:It seems you are more confused as I thought. . . . why are you NOT using the koran or any other religious text out there only the bible as evidence for your nameless god. . . the bıble is NOT the religious book of any nameless deist god. . . . I will begin to take you as a serious person when you tell us the name of this your nameless god. . . , |
These deluded evolutionist done come again again eh?. . dem no wan rest. . .lol. . which one be this again? ![]() |
Wirinet you just nailed it. . . . |
kolaxy:https://farm1.static.flickr.com/69/170289386_4fde792b17.jpg |
Deep Sight:Actually you do not know who wrote the book of job. . . The book of Job was NOT written by job. . .it is one of those books in the bible whose author remains unknown. . . .In antiquity you could not seperate religion from anything. . .religion was everything. . . . . it was politics, science, morality. . .everything. . . . And most importantly the Greek Civilization was far down the line after the Hebrew Texts had been written!Any evidence for this?. . . . . . Mazaje: Learn: A rejection of religion (which is my path) does not necessarily amount to a rejection of God, or Spirituality. The Deistic worldview focuses on the existence of a Supreme Being who created the world, but there are many many different types of, variations, and views within Deism.If you want to be a christian come out and declear that you are one. . .you can not say you reject the christian faith and present what is written in their bible as evidence for your nameless god. . . . |
[quote author=tpia. link=topic=327345.msg4647323#msg4647323 date=1254408294]dont you think you sound quite frustrated now? ![]() you need to ask yourself why these things bother you so much. If you consider other people's religion a lie, then as long as you say you've delivered yourself from "lies", then shouldnt you be happy? Yet you're not. In fact, you're miserable. why is that.[/quote]LYING to yourself and claiming things that are not true will never make them true. . .Atheist are not fustrated no matter how much you keep lying to yourself. . . .Any way you need to lie to yourself that atheist are frustrated so that your delusions will apper better to you. . .actually your myth lied to you that there is no real happiness unless if you subscribe to the myth so keep on believing. , at least you need it so that you can sleep comfortable at night. . . |
noetic15:I laugh in aramiac. . . .Neotic what is the problem?. . . ![]() |
[quote author=tpia. link=topic=327345.msg4644615#msg4644615 date=1254366741]most of you sound very frustrated so I wonder what you use to fill in the void. alcohol? drugs? women? ![]() nothing seems to be working for you people, going by your rants here. just an observation.[/quote]You claim others are frustrated only to show that you are the one that is really frustrated. . .Is this the lie you people tell yourselves so that you can sleep at night? . . . .When your guys go around peddling lies and myths you call it sharing the good news. . .when people tell you that your myths are nothing more than myths you find a lie to tell your self about them so that you can sleep at night. . . . . . .Funny people. . . |
Deep Sight:You claım to be a deist but you keep on hanging to the christian god. . .is the bible a book of the desit god?. . . . the bible is NOT the book of the deist god. . . If you want to be a christian go ahead and become one stop using their book. . . . .you are only deluding yourself. . . by the way the same bible talks about the earth having for corners. . .it talks about the sun rotating round the earth and it also says that the earth is imovable. . . .that is completely different from we now know about the earth. . . Despite contrary assertions, the fact of a spherical earth was clearly proclaimed in the Bible by the prophet Isaiah nearly twenty-eight centuries ago , "It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers [etc.]" Isaiah 40:22 (NKJ). When Isaiah wrote this verse he used the Hebrew word "khug" to describe the shape of the earth. Although this word is commonly translated into the English word "circle," the literal meaning of this word is "a sphere."It's clear that you have a very low opinion of the people that wrote the bible when you make statements like this you only embarass yourselves. . . the people that wrote the bible were humans no? were they monkeys? . . .How did the prophet know that the earth was a sphere? Science did not know this until about 20 centuries later?What is so speacial about the writers of the bible knowing that the earth is a circle? Others like them also knew that the earth was a sphere too. They were not the only ones that knew. . .The ancient Greeks used what we now call observation, reasoning and science. . . Anaximander was the first recorded person to suggest the Earth is a sphere. Erastothenes basically worked out the circumference. It was proven 1800 years later by Magellan's voyage. Greek mathematicians first proved the the square root of two is an irrational number. 400 B.C., Archytas of Tarentum asserts that sound was propogated by a medium (air or water) Anaxagoras thought that the sun was not just a small glowing circle of light. He thought of it as a large glowing rock, larger than the Peloponnese peninsula. For that belief he was exiled. Aristarchus (c. 310-230 B.C.): boldly attempted to find the relative sizes and distances of the moon, earth, and sun. (1) The earth-moon relative size was obtained from the curvature of the earth's shadow cast on the moon during lunar eclipses. (2) The earth-moon distance was found from trigonometry to be 25 earth diameters. (3) The sun's distance was obtained by trying to find when the moon was at exactly first quarter phase. At that point the earth-moon-sun angle must be 90 degrees exactly, and Aristarchus thought that this position differed from where the moon should be halfway beteen new and full by 3 degrees. If 3 degrees is accepted, the sun is 20 times further than the moon, and (4) also 20 times larger in diameter. Beyond these amazing attempts, Aristarchus also proposed in a serious way a Sun-centered (heliocentric) cosmology, motivated by the observation that the sun is much larger than the earth. A prediction of this model is that the stars are enormously distanct, since they cannot be seen to shift as the Earth swings in its wide arc around the sun. Aristarchus suggests that the heavenly bodies revolve around the sun and calculated (because of the lack of parallax) that the stars were extrememly far away. Aristotle classified the dolphins as mammals and not fish, as he noticed they bore their young alive with umbilical cords attached. Pytheas correctly asserts that tides are related to the phases of the moon. Hipparchus (c. 194-120 B.C.): The first great observational astronomer compiled a catalog of positions and brightnesses of 1080 stars as well as the sun, moon, and planets that remained unparalled until the late 1500s. He discovered the effect of precession by comparing to older star charts. With his data on planet positions, he realized that simple motion around a sphere was comletely inadequate to explain the loopy motion of the planets among the stars and invented the "epicycle", a smaller sphere centered on the main sphere, on which the planet moved so that it was periodically carried backwards with respect to its usual direction. Let's not forget to mention Plato, Pythgoras, Epicurus etc. http://astro.wsu.edu/worthey/astro/html/lec-greeks.html Some of the Greeks knew much more about cosmology and science than the hebrew writers of the bible. . . .They also made their own wrong theories like the writers of the bible but they were more elaborate and showed more knowledge even at that time. . .Have you read theirt own books or do you limit yourself only to the bible? I would be highly interested in seeing you attempt to explain these away: but i would advise you not to be too desperate to come up with an unlikely explanation.There is no need explaning things away. . . the ancient greeks had more scientific knowledge of the world compared to the ancient jews from the what they wrote down. . . . Would you like to take back your words about Job merely showing ignorance?Is it the same mythical job that was said to have survived inside a fish for 3 days?. . . . . Convince me that the story is not a myth. . . Because i am certain that if you atheists lived in those times, just like every body else, you would have believed the earth to be flat, and not known that it was hanging more or less, on nothing. - The prophets would clearly have been miles ahead of you. So please, give some respect.The first person to show that the earth was not flat was not even a jew and he did not have his inspirations from yahweh. . .how do you know that every body in antiquity thought the earth was flat?. . . did you interview all the people living in china, indai, americas. europe and they all told you that the belived the earth was flat? You might therefore want to see these words in a different light -OK lets look into the bible and see Then Jacob took fresh rods of poplar and almond and plane, and peeled white streaks in them, exposing the white of the rods. He set the rods that he had peeThen Jacob took fresh rods of poplar and almond and plane, and peeled white streaks in them, exposing the white of the rods. He set the rods that he had peeled in front of the flocks in the troughs, that is, the watering places, where the flocks came to drink. And since they bred when they came to drink, the flocks bred in front of the rods, and so the flocks produced young that were striped, speckled, and spotted (30:37-39)How has this ridiculous and mythical knowledge of biblical genetics helped humanity at all?. . . . |
Deep Sight:I am not mis defining atheism at all. . .All the gods I know of are gods of man made religions. . If you have any evidence to show that their is a god/gods apart from that of man made religions pls let me know. . . When I say evidence I mean evidence that points to a god outside that of man made religions. . . pointing to the universe as an evidence for a god will not do because the universe is just the evidence for the universe. . .If you claim that there are 1000000 flying trees out there in the clouds that are moving in a circular motions it is then up to you to provide evidence for them, pointing to the clouds as your evidence will not do. . . . |
Atheists:To say that religion does ONLY bad is to not know what you are talking about. . .Some people in some parts of Nigeria used to sacrifice their twin babies to their god until christians came and adviced them to stop it. . .the cases of witches and wizards in africa predates the coming of the white man. . .people till have evil forest in Nigeria till date. . . .innocent people are still being tagged as witches and wizards in african cultures and killed in accordance to the local religion and culture. . |
noetic15:And do you believe in this type of re incarnation?. . .You said that their have been reported cases of known reincarnation. . . |
noetic15:I will like you to shed more light on this claim. . .some people believe that if you are good in this present life you will re-incarnate as a better person in the next life. . some believe that if you are bad you might even come out as an animal in the next life. . . do you believe that the Dai Lama is a re-incanation of previous buddist deities or have you ever meet a dog or cat that told you he/she was a human in the previous life?. . . |
Let me state my own purpose in life since I am an atheist. . . Atheism is simply a disbelieve in all the gods of man made religion based on their lack of evidence for all their assertions. . . . The fact that I disbelieve in man made myths does not mean I have no purpose in life actually I have found more purpose in life after I dropped all the myths I used to believe in. . . .I do not feel the need for a savior in my life. I feel I need to take responsibility for my own wrong doings and be self-reliant to the best of my ability. However if I do need help I think asking family and friends would be much better than asking an imaginary friend who is powerless in the realm we live in. . . . Many theist chose to come to invoke their dieties when they are in need of something. . .they pray for protection, good health,wealth, happiness, comfort etc. . .But the problem is that there is NO evidence to show that theist are better protected, happier, richer, more moral than atheist and there is NO evidence to show that theist are better than atheist in any way. . . .Belief in god relies basically on emotional reasoning and fear and basically that is how all religions function. . . Most religions rely on these two things. . . . All religions offer people lies and false hope. . . They find a way of making you feel guilty and then claiming to have a solution to the imaginary guilt they have instilled in you, that is why all the man made god's do not rely on reasoning and rationality. . .They religions tell people absurd stories that have NO basis in reality stories that can never be replicated and stories people know are lies. . .the rely on man's fear of death and the unknown and claim only them know what will happen or have the knowledge of what will happen. . .they all claim to know something they can never know. . .They promise people peace comfort and happiness as long as your abide by their dogmatic and mythical teachings. . .but that too has been shown to be false. . . Now let me make my case for atheism and the purpose it gives me in life. . . Since I left religion behind me, stopped being a christian and stopped asking god to help me(actually its not as if any god has ever helped me before), my life has improved immeasurably, makes much more sense and I'm a much more centred, happier and focused person. . . I do not need an imaginary purpose, I do not need an imaginary direction all I need is to live my life, be happy as much as I can and try to make others around me happy. . .I try to be good to the best of my ability knowing that doing good is good enough not because I expect some imaginary sky daddy or master to reward me after wards. . .Doing good because you know it is right is better than doing good because you expect to be rewarded in an imiginary after life that has NO evidence at all. . .I live this life knowing that it is all that I know there is and try to make the best of it by contributing in what ever way I can to make the people around me happier than they are. . .I do not always succede in that but I mostly try. . . . . So my purpose in life as wirinet has said is to be born to live my life and make my contribution to the survival of the universe. . . |
noetic15: . . .I laugh in greek. . . .Mushin what has your delusion got to do with this thread? . . . .Which one be jesus son of maryam according to the koran again . . .I no fit shout. . . . |
noetic15:And theism is what?lol. . . , |
babaearly:Atheism is the lack of belief in all the gods of man made religion so how does that equate to lack of purpose in life? ![]() |
Abuzola:Are you crazy goons defending yourselves when you go around killing people because America invaded Afganistan in Nigeria? Are you people defending yourselves when you go around killing your fellow Nigerians because some journalist in Denmark drew a cartoon of your prophet?. . . . Are your own imam's in various mosques not lying scums like the pastors that we have around? . . . . . |
OLAADEGBU:Was there a bible that contained 66 books in circulation(since you believe only in the 66 books of the protestants) before the council of Nicea? If the catholics were not the ones that selected the books that were canonized who did? |
Abuzola:Will you shut up? what about your own imams that go around buying weapons and telling people to buy weapons. . . |
Abuzola:So is islam. . . |
No mind the guy. . . . . |
noetic14:The endless lies you guys keep telling yourself so that you can sleep at night while holding unto your myths and delusions. . . Pls go through my post and show me where I have EVER talked about hell or shown any concern about it. . . That should be very easy for you to do. . . |
davidylan:Apart from banom which other atheist have you ever seen here that says he wants to go to the mythical heaven? ![]() |
noetic14:This VERY false. . .Pls go through my post and show me where I have talked about the mythical hell. . . I only talk about hell when you people bring it up and the only question I always ask is if you have any evidence for that mythtical place. . . |
Here are more verses from the bible which state that you are a liar when you say that evil is the absence of the bible god. . .the bible says you do not know what you are talking about. . . .evil is part of the bible god's plans as the bible says. . The Evil Spirit Of The Lord "And it came to pass, when the evil spirit from God was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him." (I Samuel 16:23) "And the evil spirit from the LORD was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his javelin in his hand: and David played with his hand." (I Samuel 19:9) "And it came to pass on the morrow, that the evil spirit from Elohim came upon Saul, and he prophesied in the midst of the house:" (1 Sam 18:10) The bible god not only did evil and apologized for it as stated in the book of Jeremiah. . .but he also has evil sprits which he sends to torment people according to the bible. . . so neotic stop telling lies when making moot points. . . . |
noetic6:Read more of your twisted lies?. . . .What exactly do you mean when you say that man had dominion over all?. . .according to the myth he did not have dominion over the serpent because the serpent deceived the mythical adam and eve. . . .Was it also your god's plan to allow his worst enemy to come and deceive his children who did not even know the difference between right and wrong?. . . . |
noetic4:The only problem is that you are just giving your twisted and deluded opinion . . . while I am giving you what is written in your bible. . . .spoon feed me with knowledge ke. . . what do you know? ![]() |
noetic4:You lied when you said that "Just like evil is the absence of God, as darkness is the absence of Light, so is suffering, evil, indecency and other calamities the absence of God's world and inherent dominion. " And I gave you bible verses that show you do not know what you are talking about because these verses say that you are lying. . . I do not believe in the verses but you do not have to lie when making a moot point. . . . (Amos 3:6) - "Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?" (Isaiah 45:7,) - "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things These verses say that evil is part of your god's plan since he admits he created evil and he is responsible for all the evil that happens around. . . You said that evil is the absence of your god when your own god apologized to people in the bible for the evil he did them. . . "Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel, to whom you sent me to offer your prayer: If you remain quietly in this land I will build you up, and not tear you down; I will plant you, not uproot you; for I regret the evil I have done you."(Jeremiah 42:9-10) When will you stop lying for jesus?. . . . |
muhsin:What is this? . . .When will you guys learn to leave the jewish myths alone and hang unto you own arabic myths?. . . Noah does NOT know allah. . .Mohammed lied to you guys simple. . . . |
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