₦airaland Forum

rvp20182:
There are options of course - we have "clean buses" - but certainly nothing like dafnos - those are way too rickety and badly built. I guess Nigeria has no manufacturing or car assembly industry to talk about...so you end up with badly made shared taxis.

It's about choice - if you prefer clean quiet buses..there are thousands of that. The indusry is still largely informal - but kenya has made tremendous progress to formalize them - all must belong to SACCO (savings and credit) - and there are strict regulations they follow.
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254tobby:
The point is that we don't have those kind of old crap yellow danfos and Nigeria needs to improve her car assembly industry if that's the Kind of vehicles which looks like unroadworthy vehicles that they assembles.

fxjunkie:
A car means nothing here in the US, all this noise about a common car gift boils down to one thing: there's so much poverty in Nigeria.

aribisala0:
And that is where the asymmetry lies . We have no businesses , No business leaders on our side just opportunists lie that Alakija woman.

Here you have people leading companies over 100 years old .


That is what we need to fix Why can't NNPC match Shell or Mobil

Where is our TV company

our supermarket chain


our Film Studio company

Our Coca Cola

We need to learn what bsiness really is in a globalized world

Well we have Dangote sha and I hope his copany is still around in 100 years

Americans talk and talk we no see any investent

China is building roads and Mambilla and rail upandan

sufferNsmiling:
Please do not blame our government . That is what nigerians want and like we nigerians know who can build a country who can develop a country. But we will not vote for them all we nigerians like to vote for are criminals even nigerians in uk,america ,europe and abroad we will always vote for a criminal to lead nigerian community. So do not blame our government we are so illiterate that do not know right from left good from bad see a criminal we are happy to follow him we nigerians in europe we tell you dear white people did nothing for nigeria so is better we follow criminals. So that is a behaviour you cannot see in any country when nigerians will vote for somebody to develop them its only crime they want. The way you make your bed so you lie on it. We nigerians are known as criminal worshippers.

mtis:
Calm down ..ya might have an heart attack.What am saying with all the oil ya got why cant you have something like your fellow oil producers ..like Dubai

rvp20182:
I guess we can't blame you. Poor education mean you can't even do the basic mathematics.

Let try Total Nigeria budget = Total federal budget + Internal Generated Revenue (excl federal allocation) in 36 states ( or You can also try federal budget+state budget - federal allocation).

Total federal budget = $29B
Total state allocation (N9.5 trillion Naira - remove the federal allocation - otherwise you'll be double counting) - I think you get left with 8-9B dollars
Total =29+8=$37B

Kenya = Total budget for 2018/2019 (30B with 3B being county allocation +1-2B which counties will generate) =$32B

It either basic maths is the problem or the valueless Naira is deluding you. The thing is worth 4 Kshs.

Mr. Onyekpere criticised the entire budget outlay, arguing that although the total N8.612 trillion “appears high in Naira terms,” it actually amounted to a “paltry $28.24 billion.”

Nigeria economy is supposed to be the biggest in Africa. But, we are the lowest, both in per capita budget figures and in absolute terms. Nigeria is in the middle among South Africa, Algeria, Egypt and Angola.

“This year, South Africa is budgeting about $116 billion, against Nigeria’s $23 billion, despite being the highest appropriation ever. Angola is doing $124 billion; Algeria $53 billion and Egypt $40 billion.

The question to ask - is WHY IS ANGOLA spending 124B dollars - while Nigeria who are top 10 petrol oil sellers in the world are doing 28B - What is WRONG WITH YOU GUYS. You mean all that oil is just siphoned off? You let shell steal the whole of it? I mean you guys don't even know the offshore oil where it goes

WHAT IS WRONG WITH NIGERIA?

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/249059-2018-nigerias-biggest-budget-yet-meagre-compared-angola-south-africas.html

mtis:
We need all the foreign investment we can get. So guys its ok to invest in Kenya. But just remember Kenya is a grave yard for many African wanna be companies. I think Dangote was smart to jump ship …

jason14:
see guy believe whatever makes u feel better it doesn't change anything, we Nigerians know who we are and where we stand in Africa , we are not looking for relevance .
Africa will progress when Nigeria progresses. just like d way d world wasn't progressing until america started progressing , and China to Asia

its destiny my friend, some countries are destined for greatness , even if it takes Nigeria 1000yrs to progress it will surely come and wen it comes it wud be massive and thats wen people will start respecting Africa . but for now forget it
if Kenya like it shud turn to england, it won't still change anything in Africa , it wud just be a fine country nothing else , no impact , no influence nothing

just the truth



Jason has spoken

rvp20182:
IMF will not lend to Nigeria unless you agree to bring your GDP to right level - by devauling naira, raising interest rate, improving your revenue.

So cook you GDP and for political reason - IMF will pretend not to see- but you aint getting any lending - even if oil prices drop to 10 dollars.

IMF BIG BOYS in Africa - in terms of who they can trust their billion dollars with.

See Kenya has 1.5B (over-draft facility), Egypt(12B), Morocco, Tunisia (more than 1B each) and Ghana got 900M dollars. Nigeria nothing. Got to weather the recession buddy - you can't repay a loan with little taxes you have.

http://www.imf.org/external/np/exr/map/lending/index.htm

NairobiWalker:
Your music is crap.

rvp20182:
Here goes Dangote. Then GDP. We know the drill. Btw Dangote Cement - Nigeria biggest company - is valued at 14B - despite all investments in those countries - Kenya's SAFARICOM is now valued at 12B - and it not invested outside our borders.

NairobiWalker:
The website you gave doesn't state Lagos GDP is $136 billion like you claim.

NairobiWalker:
You need to see a doctor. In financial recessions, big cities are most affected while villages barely notice it. What this means is the GDP of Lagos definitely receded more than the average national GDP and that $62 billion is definitely the best it could be. Only a Nigerian would think their economic heartbeat increased in GDP by over 50% while the rest of the country reduced by 31%, lol.

rvp2018:
Plans. Where you total revenues are so tiny. How will they materiliaze. Nigeria is using 1,800-4,000MW (when they max out) - so I don't think adding more MWs is the solution.She need to resolve the basic issues...pre-paid meters can solve cashflow issues plauging your power sector...and the turbines can turn again 24-7 and you'll be able to enjoy constant power like many African countries..including somalia which is at war.

But it's about PLANS and GDP and Dangote.

NairobiWalker:
So you're using fake 2014 data to claim Lagos'GDP is bigger than Kenya's in 2018?

Even if I was to agree with your data - considering Nigeria's GDP has shrunk by 31% since 2014 hence if Lagos' GDP also shrinks by 31% that'll make it $62 billion which is still much smaller than Kenya's.

Lagos state output in 2017 was $136bn, according to official estimates, more than a third of Nigeria’s gross domestic product. The city is the centre of most of the country’s manufacturing and home to a pan-African banking industry as well as a thriving music, fashion and film scene that reverberates around the continent. More recently, it has become a tech hub to rival Nairobi’s so-called Silicon Savannah.

The Lagos economy is significantly bigger than that of the whole of Kenya, east Africa’s most dynamic country, with a nominal per capita income of more than $5,000, more than double the Nigerian average.

rvp2018:
I doubt the effectiveness of LRU - and then the plans - those are hilarous - Nigeria has 12,000mw of installed capacity - and it manages to only use 2,000MW - just tell me how adding more installed capacity will solve anything. Are you guys this dumb? The current installed capacity is enough to supply the entire nigeria with constant 24-7 electricity. At you level of poverty - your per capita power needs are low (mostly lighting a bulb & watching TV)- just like in Kenya - the average household - need maybe 0.5kwh per day - and 12,000mw can give you what 240,000,0000kwhs...more than enough to supply the entire nigeria.

The problem is not more generation...it's maintaining the existing ones..ensure they are running 24-7hrs - by making sure people are being smart-metered and they are paying for power...giving money to distributor to pay the producer...and slowly moving from 1,800MW per day to 12,000MW per day...otherwise the idle capacity you have is staggering.

But all of you are mostly idiots just shouting GDP, Dangote, and Big PLANS.

Kenya generates about 2,500Mw - and it uses 2,000MW with 500MW just idling there for any surges -- and it supplies 4-6M household with power - and you'll be suprised that only about 6,000 of it's customers - the big industries consume 80% of our power. Household consume nearly nothing....lighting 5 bulbs at night for 3-4 hours,charging their phones or laptops, at best a fridge and watching TV....the entire lagos can function with 1,000 MW.

Tuksgrad:
Lol , like I said I expected you to point me to where I lied and I bet you can't cus . Lol , yes I'm sure you know nothing about us and you will soon Google and learn and in no time you visa hunters of Africa will revive the thread about " how to get a visa to Botswana " that is all the "hardwork "you shyt heads know , researching about where to run to next not building comfort for yourselves in your own land......when they don't see onyibo nothing is right they would rather live in a slum in a country with onyibo than building a sewage pipe at home that's too difficult , Buhari must do it himself or we will run lol. Lmfao @ too classy . Yeah , too classy yet you hate the ones that have gone beyond you lol , you have a demonic need to drag them down to your pigsty . You dirty , stinking people are the most arrogant good for nothing africans ever. Who comes to that cesspit filled with ritualists , kidnappers , sick people, herdsmen who butcher people ( and others without brains take uncensored pics and posts them online ) , yahoo yahoo plus boys, tribalists , lazy cowards ? etc ...no one except those who want to manipulate the population, get rich and bounce lmfao . The " alpha males of Africa " can't even patch potholes lol, oh ....but they can really talk loud though I guess it's because they are used to competing with generators ....why is that? Too stupid and too busy beating chest to build a bloody power plant for the masses even with all that oil moola lol. These" smartest and classy africans", are shytting under trees in 2018 , I'm talking 70% of them lmfao, how embarrassing for " alpha males" . We the "weak people" down south have toilets , quality roads , running water , 24 hrs of electricity and we would never degrade ourselves, did I say never? I said never would we look for a way to get a visa to their doomed nation but they grovel and lick our asses for ours lol , now that's how a mentally enslaved loud mouth acts . It's a new year , look at all the threads in the travel section , they want to escape what their fathers built " a kraal for a nation " .

rvp2018:
Yeah - 3 round abouts is big deal - and footbriges. Bus stops. E-GIS. CCTV. You guys need to visit functioning city. Nairobi is one such smart city...as you droll about 13,000 cctv cameras...Nairobi already implemented all that. We spend [b]150M usd [/b]to install not only CCTV cameras but intelligent cameras including facial recognition, number plate recognition & police commands centers in Nairobi & Mombasa..that is why we have reduced terror attack to nearly zero....despite bordering Somalia.

https://www.sde.co.ke/sdemedia/sdeimages/saturday/sfck0grmfczkhu575bc1021ef31.jpg

Unlike Lagos - which is a thug paradise - you can't try any such in Nairobi or Mombasa - because chance are - there is an intelligent camera watching you - with intelligent face recognition and if you have car - your plate recognition- and we have functioning 991!

Watch Nairobi beat crime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=26&v=4H5IVEC-RDg
https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/files/2016/12/CCTV-COMMAND-CENTRE-1.jpg

Watch at our police command center - receiving 50,000 calls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_999UQ2ehM

With your little budget - you cannot to invest in modern CCTV or policing.

KingSango:
Greetings,


Because their empire is falling and Africa is rising. they want to recolonize using homosexuals because they are known to be violent and corruptible. The Russian society kills homosexuals because they will not tolerate child rapists, and they will not tolerate the U.S secret societies propagating homosexuality to increase its worldwide mob against innocent world citizens. America operates like Nazi Germany and uses homosexual societies to oppress the heterosexual family and keep dictator rule real in secret. Many African Americans elites are in the secret societies that propagate homosexuality here in the U.S, in the U.K and in South Africa, especially they are in Ghana too. I pray the Ghana President and the President of Kenya stand strong and firm like the Presidents of Nigeria and Uganda in the face of Western Freemasonry's homosexual agenda to extend its empire.

Kenyan President Stands Strong Against Homophile Assault on Afrika





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hW7sI1ShB4

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Ase

Love Sango

NairobiWalker:
Nigeria having a GDP if $573 billion alone is enough to tell you that your source is crap. (and what's wrong with you guys? One minute you say your GDP is $400B the next it jumps by $173B to $573B? lol)

NairobiWalker:
Btw why don't you bring a reliable source that places Lagos GDP at over $88 billion? Sometimes people tell themselves a lie so frequently they start believing it themselves.

Lagos State governor, Akinwunmi Ambode, has described the state as the fastest growing mega city in the world, just as he revealed that its Gross Domestic Product GDP has hit $136 billion.

He also said the state accounts for over 90 per cent of Nigeria’s foreign trade flow, which invariably contributes 30 per cent to the country’s GDP and also accounts for 65 per cent of its manufacturing activity.

sufferNsmiling:
rvp2018 .I get your point on agriculture. But whoever is saying we should diversify in agriculture is a lie and is lying to you.in cameroon today there are more than 280 nigeria commercial farmers and in ghana 153 nigeria commercial farmers in nigeria four states no commercial farm active or running. Most of the commercial farms have packed up and left the country. Whoever is telling you in nigeria to do agriculture is a lie all we have are peasant farmers.

68816419:
IMF World Economic Outlook April 2018 Update

Some interesting stats:

* Egypt predicted to overtake SA in GDP/capita in 2020 and Algeria in 2023, making it the richest large country in Africa both overall and per capita
* SA GDP/captita basically stagnant from 2010 - 2023
* Nigeria GDP/capita predicted to actually decrease from peak in 2014 ($5,754) to $5,172 in 2023, and Ghana will catch up to Nigeria
* Tanzania to catch up to Kenya in GDP/capita
* South Sudan, DRC, Central African Republic, and Burundi will all still have GDP/capita below $1000 in 2023.
* Many African countries are still growing slower than their population growth rate and have decreasing or stagnant GDP/capita

GDP (nominal)

1. Nigeria - $408 billion
2. South Africa - $371 billion
3. Egypt - N/A
4. Algeria - $198 billion
5. Morocco - $121 billion
6. Angola - $119 billion
7. Kenya - $88 billion
8. Ethiopia - $86 billion
9. Tanzania - $56 billion
10. Ghana - $51 billion
11. Cote d'Ivoire - $48 billion
12. Libya - $44 billion
13. DRC - $43 billion
14. Tunisia - $40 billion
15. Cameroon - $39 billion

GDP (PPP)

1. Egypt - $1.292 trillion
2. Nigeria - $1.168 trillion
3. South Africa - $794 billion
4. Algeria - $667 billion
5. Morocco - $315 billion
6. Ethiopia - $222 billion
7. Angola - $199 billion
8. Sudan - $198 billion
9. Tanzania - $176.4 billion
10. Kenya - $175.9 billion
11. Ghana - $145 billion
12. Tunisia - $141 billion
13. Cote d'Ivoire - $106 billion
14. Uganda - $95 billion
15. Cameroon - $94 billion

GDP/capita (PPP)

1. Equatorial Guinea - $29,261
2. Seychelles - $26,793
3. Mauritius - $20,404
4. Gabon - $17,770
5. Botswana - $16,782
6. Algeria - $14,034
7. South Africa - $12,327
8. Egypt - $11,872
9. Tunisia - $10,854
10. Libya - $10,486
11. Namibia - $10,343
12. Swaziland - $8,812
13. Morocco - $7,959
14. Cabo Verde - $6,516
15. Angola - $6,101

Even our GDP/capita (PPP) is far better than that of Kenyan owns, so, what da hell are Kenyans here saying ?
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/...ata/index.aspx
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rvp2017:
The past - before there was the talk of climate change - there was times including recently when it was 15 dollars a barrel - Renewable clean energy is the future.Many developed countries are planning to ban petrol or diesel cars by 2030! It will be total annihilation; the same with coal.Nigeria have wasted all their petro-dollars - including building a new slum city in Abuja...and they are seemingly unable to function without oil.Factories or power station that ran on diesel are being de-commissioned. In the short-term China is building a huge reserve of Oil so they won't be coming to the market a lot. Your gov revenues are all from oil. You guys need to really wake up before it's too late.
https://rawabetcenter.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%86%D9%81%D8%B7-%D8%B4%D8%B0%D9%89%D9%89%D9%89%D9%89%D9%89%D9%89.png