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In Islam, the punishment for homosexuality is very clear. KILL THE OFFENDERS! I may be wrong. But that is what I know!

What is the difference between toilet and bathroom, as far as dirt and impurity are concerned?

@topic,
I may be wrong, I think ed il maulud is bidha! And from what I know, the name is recent.

When I was young, we heard of moulud Nabiy in different light. But nowaday, it is strange to me. The last time I attended maulud nabiyy gathering was very, very long time ago.

Rather than working ourselves to frenzy, I suggests we use the day to re-awake the ummah. It is strange today, seeing everyone turn the day to merry day. While others turned it to business ventures!

May God forgive us all!

@poster,
It is ok!

I have been away from nl for long. This thread caught my attention on my first scan of the array of threads on this section.

You made a good point. And i kind of wonder why no one reply to it,

Anyway, all the 3 cases you pointed out are right. But failure in the past relationship, whether from the victim or other people is one factor that had led many to lose their Mr and Mrs right.

This failure tend to germinate in the victims, cynicism and distrust, which created waves of unpleasant behaviours that put the other person off.

I don't think it is wise to judge everyone in the same way. We have to understand that it is counterproductive.

Obj is the best among them and is still the best so far, his shortcomings notwithstanding!

@topic,
It is a good proposal that will at least help depopulate the country to manage-able figure!

Like it or not, the northerners, christain or muslin have weapons kept in their ceilings! That is a fact.

Whether killing will solve the problem is another thing entirely. Lest I forget, if CAN think Jos crisis is religious, then it is a delusional thinking! I lived there before, and know that religion was just an excuse. It is a purely political matter. It is about Land, not scriptures. The ealier we admit this, the better it is for the country!

Our constitution is faulty. And our nation states was built upon weak foundation.

Time Bomb? Think twice!

And where there have been a mixup in the ID, then it is regreted. When posting from mobile, you won't see the name of who said who. I honestly don't read names, I read what they post. Perhaps I have mixed up the names. The issues and opinion remain intact. Just change the name as applicable. I almost had an acident the last time I posted. Maybe when I get home, I will see how the names got mixed up.

@naijaking,
Reading your reply to my post that have absolutely nothing to do with your post made me wonder whether you are worth my time!

No where did I mentioned Religion or appeal to religion sentiment in my post. Until recently, I have stayed away from religion dialogues in public. I am therefore not qualified to be tagged with religion sentiment in my post.

But your post show much more about you. You reminded me of a law in psychology. In layman words: you always assume others have, or are what you are. And therefore, depending on the nature of that traits, you start treating others as appropriate. For instance, if you are a liar, you will always assume that others are lying as long as you have nothing to think otherwise. Same with when you are religion jingoist.

Try learn from what I said about kokojunkie. I said," I wouldn't say you are a tribalist," why do you think I worded it that way instead of calling her a tribalist? It was because I knew she had a wider views. It was also because I wanted her clarify, rather than me making irrational conclusion. I used words carefully when discusing sensitive issues. Maybe that is what you read as IGNORANT. God help you!

That said, Audicity of hope is not history book but a life, thoughts and visions of Barack Obama. He however dwel on history sometimes just as he wrote his autobiography. The pages I ref you was part of history and it will do you good to read them instead of making out of tune guesses. On it, Obama tracked some of the factors that drive American foreign policies to post world war2. He also expressed his candid opinion. I was trying to draw your attention to a fact that when America intervene in some nathons internal affairs, it is often for selfish reason and that Obama agreed with that.

On Saddam and Osama, it will be a tragedy if you don't know the circumstance that brought them power that they eventually used on their mentor! I wish you are good at being impartial and open-minded.

@naijaking,
you are the one referencing the wrong ID!

First I am posting from mobile and hence you have not posted before I post. Second, my first post was directed at the topic even before I read any opinion. The second was directed at kobo's last post. I read the thread first 5 replies and the last one and the picked up kobo's. I am not in habit of reading threads that aim at attacking other people.

That said, I replied you based on the last thread I read from you though you may be faster by virture of using PC.

My posts were obviously not made to discourage people from taking opportunities abroad but reasons advanced for it. Instead of picking my words and rewording it to suit your personal interest, I advise that you take time to read them and learn to understand my motive rather than trying to provoke silly debates.

When discussing contempory issues, one can't be right everytime. By listening and understanding the motive behind arguments, we can, if we are wise learn from one another. Your motive was to advance tribal sentiment, while mine was to advance general sentiment. I have no attachment to any of the tribes. I can't even speak my own language. I also don't look like one!

Rather than turning the thread to Hausa vs Igbo, isn't it wise to delibrate on the pros and cons of that enlistment? Isn't it wise to look at the inside issues that are hidden in such carrots? Isn't it wise to discuss how some people have made a success of it and how it has also failed?

If you think I am that ignorant as you mentioned above, then I am honoured to be one. No wonder, the country refuse to advance!

So my dear naijaking, direct your tribal cannon at another person. I want to discuss issue and not tribal sentiment.

Naijaking,
Are you telling me that the Wise Men who founded PDP are the one that annulled june 12? Did you know how PDP was founded and those involved? Did you know how and when it was hijacked? Did you know that some people "sold-out" their opportunity before it was hijacked? Did you bother to check on the background and root of those people? Did you know the people that was used to anulled june 12? Did you know that AD was a faction of PDP that left because of those elements in the PDP? Did you know why Igbos and NOT Ijaws were listed by US?

Hey, let me ask you a question: Between Igbo and Ijaw, who has the right to shout more about maginalisation?

I read the interview. And I must admit that it wasn't fair. But did you bother to know why it was so at the time? If you want to have a deep understanding of that policy which, I must confess WAS JUSTIFIED AFTER THE WAR, then go study the Isreal reasons for opposing Armed palestinian state. I had a little exposure to military by knowledge. I'd have ended in army too but for some anormally. The civilians can't understand certain things.

However, in the context of modern Nigeria, that rule had been eased. You can't just wake up to appoint a general in Army. And you don't just appoint a COAS just because of tribe. There will be mutiny! What we have is that the young Army has to work up the ladder while their senior are gradually retired. Obj retired alot of Northen Soldiers and elevated the Southen ones. All these were to allow for a balance proportion. Army don't appoint base on tribe. If Igbos choose to retire before they reach the rank of General, you can't blame anyone. What happened in police can't happen in Army, please.

@kobo,
I won't like to say that you are tribalistic, but sometimes I wonder where you get your facts. I hate to dabble into tribal discuss but somehow, when I do, I have got to be frank in my opinion.

The reason America was not involved was not what you stated! I also disagree with the level of Isreali involvement. Anyway, my idea is based of what I read. I wasn't born at the time so I can't turn myself into an authority. I am sure you also read those things. If you read them, I suggest that you learn to read with open mind. But if you were there, well, I can't argue with you.

Let me give you a modern example. If everyone were to narrate what actually happened on June 12, you will think it happened in 15 century were the witnesses were all dead! Even IBB have not been able to explain it! See?

Now let me summarized obama's thought for you as written in his own Audacity of Hope:
1. Obama considered Nigeria as one of the Rogue states that US must be careful of

AMERICAM WILL NEVER PURSUE THE SYSTEMATIC COLONIZATION PRACTICED BY EUROPEAN NATIONS, BUT IT SHED ALL INHIBITIONS ABOUT MEDDLING IN THE AFFAIRS OF COUNTRIES IT DEEMED STRATEGICALLY IMPORTANT. Page 282.

Also read page 280 to 281 and see how America foreign policy evolved.

And read page 315 paragraph 2. Paragraph 3 saw Obama admitted thd America was driven by self interest.

And on page 318, you read of how America gave the third world the policy they themselves will NEVER swallow!

Just read every thing!

American opted to have allies to serve their self interest. It is their own way of dignifying colonialism. Offer them incentives, aids, freedom and democracy and then subjugate them with their policies! Kobo, there is no doubt that Igbo will benefit from American military expedition. But the negative result will only manifest in the long run. If you doubt me, ask Saddam Husain, Osama Bin Laden where they get their power and your finding will aid your understanding!

Igbos in Nigeria has always been amasingly comic when it come to politics. Elsewhere, they are leaders in their fields. There is no one that can say in all certainty that Igbos were prevented from reaching the highest political office. Igbos have a reputation for speaking with many voices when it come to common interest. And they always expect other people to come and help them solve their internal problems. The refusal by other ethnics nationalities to heed that called what they call "maginalisation!"

History show that at many time, Igbos have chosen to play second fiddle in national politics rather than working toward the top. They also have the negative mentality that they "can never rule Nigeria" hence they never try. Except for Kalu who fought galantly, (without his people support) almost other Igbo leaders have a way of reaching compromise with other tribes and then drop their ambitions!

Obj was a product of Igbo's internal division. That 1999 election was the best time for Igbos to rule the country. But they went to back a man whose tribe has rejected against their own son Ekweme! And now they are complaining when that man dumped them and handed over power to the North. My guess is that had Alex Ekwueme been supported, and won the election, Yorubas would have been compensated with this Yar'adua govt as a result of MKO tragedy and the North will still be out of power! While the South South will have found a credible reason to agitate for the next presidency to complete the power rotation before it return to the North. Need I say that Igbo's disunity is costly to the whole country?

As for taking up American offer, it is a good opportunity to return to slavery! If you doubt me please read Audacity of Hope by Barack Obama. And see what he has to say about these kind of carrots that is being dangled before many weak nations.

Why not buy the paper or google it?

How do you know whether someone (jew or christain) "fear Him" and what are your definition of "worked righteousness"?

I hope I will be guided, dear david?

Otokx, I guess he is the lord of the Ring!

@st Funmi,
That implies that ph men are somewhat detached from their wives before the "Mannapping." That is a poor family values,

@Davidylan,
Monotheism means belief in a single God. It is not only Islam that believe in one God. Please check it out.

Also, I see nothing wrong in any nation acquiring peaceful technology. China, a communist state that support dictatorial state was not crucified for acquiring technology. Also, China is not a christain state and we have evidence of religion subjugation down there. Russia is also not a perfect democracy, so no one raise eyebrow when it advance technologically.

Let us put aside our religion bias and recognize the positive implication of the Iranian achievement. That nations need not wait for washington to develop. If Iran with all the international sactions can advance, technologically, the what excuse does parasitic nations like Nigeria have to remain backward in the light of outpouring of foreign goodwill? It is a fact of history that the nations that develop are those that look inward for solution to their national problems.

What kind of logic is this?

I am so, so glad Ribadu is in great shape. Shame on the enemies!

Do you want to know or you just want to mock?

Mybal,
while I like this idea of holding muslims gathering, I quite disagree with you about part of your comment regarding talking to non muslims online. There is nothing wrong with talking to non muslims whether online or offline. The reason muslims are grossly misunderstood has to do with the fact that the non muslims are basically uninformed. (except the diehard anti Islam elements)

I have always been a part of such gathering in the past, but stopped when I find out that some of them are becoming breeding ground for bidha and foundamentalism. I have since stop attending them altogether! Not that I won't like to attend, but if what I saw during those days are still rampant, then, I am going to remain where I am.

That does not mean I am discouraging anyone. In fact, I recommends it.

My point is that muslims should heed the sunnah when applying their faiths,

@pawn89,
so you have never experienced love before?

Pls check the current news on bbc. The policy have been reversed to the old one. You can also check the facebook blog.

Cheer.

Check my pix. Aren't I lovely?

@MT,
you said you are from the same constituency as dapolam. May I ask you questions? And you must answer them.

First I have never live in IB but I have been there before and my sister and uncle live there. The time I Was there, I was in UCH for medical examnation as an OP. So see my questions as one coming from someone who want to know and not from your antagonist.

1. Who is the current rep in your constituency? Is he performing so well that you want him to go for another term?
2. Have you any idea about all those willing to contest the post apart from dapolam, and who is your choice of candidate among them?
3. In the last election, did you vote? To whom? Why him? And did he won the poll?
4. If the above is NO, why do you think he lost and what are you doing to avert that again?
5. As for dapolam, what is it about him that you like (secretly) and what is it about him that you hate? Leave his father out of it. Let deal with him alone.

@kobo,
I am glad you have at least agreed to look at dapolam as his own man. But I hope those attacking him will stop. Let the thread be used as intellectual discuss and not for attack. We may not agree with one another, it certainly pay to understand one another.

@sparta,
it isn't about religion. I only pointed out what I read.

So boss is also on fb? Why not link up with me? You know how to do it, don't you?

@boss,
my comment was anchored upon the comment made by MT that I am dapolam sycophant. He was like "everyone that is lenient to dapolam is a sycophant or an image maker." You know that is ridiculous. Let call a spade a spade. He was just being provocative.

I have seen people with enough negative mentality on this forum and had to be careful in how I deal with them.

Ok. Dapolam is not suitable. Dapolam father didn't perform well when he was gov. Dapolam is going to end like others etc.

Does that solve any problem? Isn't this why Nigeria can't move foward?

You know someone was not fit and you are better at the job. But you are not ready to do it or offer to help those who can do it. Where will that lead the country?

If MT and others who believe they can do better can just throw themselves into the ring and serve the people instead of being an armchair critics, our country will move forward.

Obama believed he can do better. He has no money. He was not given a chance even in the primary. But he made himself heard. He threw himself into the contest and people saw what they wanted and voted him.

These guys should learn from him. If you know someone isn't the right man for the job do what Obama did and enter the ring. Or do what Collin powel did and endorse, not just by word, but by actively working for the right man.

That way, we would appreciate you more.

Hmmm

@mt,
you can hear yourself. Can't you? You said it was a bait. Yet, it ran more than two pages. Read your post again and tell a fool it was a bait let him believe you. You and others thought Dapolam was banned and you almost celebrated it. Until I drew your attention to it. Dapo was not banned. He was not even a regular poster until that post was made.

As for calling me his image maker, that was a sign of frustration from your path. You should check my status and see when last I posted on nairaland. You could have said I was banned too. We can't all agree on issues. We must learn to respect other people's opinions without insulting their sensibility and without making them look inferior to us in reasoning.

So to your question, I am not dapolam image maker. I met dapo on this thread and have had seen how he tried to assure us of his sincerity. I am not going to pretend about my impression of him and I am not going to condemn his past or castigate him for his father's sin. I can tell you however that no man can predict another man's destiny with absolute conviction. You can not judge them either.

Who will have predicted Obj to come back from his ota farm to rule this country for the second time in spite of his antecedent? He was against June 12 and he was also against his own kinsmen. Yet, he ruled for 8 years!

If dapolam is destined for the post, who are you or me to stop God from executing His plan? So many times, controversial people have won elections and are still winning. What can you than to take your chance when you have the opportunity to know what they stand for? Man, try and grow up. The men who made our civilisation possible were those who went wrong, did wrong, and made effort at making redress. People you consider a failure today can be your boss tomorrow.

@akinalabi,
That was a good point. But dapolam, from what I saw on this thread didn't start it. A guy picked on facebook and then stir the controversy.

You also on fb, try and find out.