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^^^^^^ exactly , there are unimaginable and uncontrolable forces at play here , and you are all phucking pawns |
After the events that sparked the upheaval in Tunisia, apparently there have been 2 cases of men setting themselves on fire in Egypt. The second man in Egypt did it earlier on today , (see link below). Will this emerging trend prove to be an effective tool to force meaningful change in Nigeria? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12214090 |
@ poster: You are a top man for venting this, let's hook up and collaborate as like minded Nigerians , you're not alone [size=18pt]Fela was right when he discerned the cowardly nature of Nigerian citizens when it comes to asserting our rights and civil liberties.[/size] Afterall, if your mother (not just any woman, an elderly stateswoman, an elderly woman which is against our culture) had been lobbed out of a second floor window without any real public reaction you'd be bitter. It is important to note how the Tunisian upheaval started and I know that could never happen in Nigeria, I really admire 'courage' I think it is the most pivotal virtue that a lot of Nigerians lack, Apparently a desperate act of a youung unemployed teenager that was prevented by the police from selling vegetables on the streets without permission set himself on fire on Dec 17 in protest and this later on snowballed (source link below) , so my question is, could this ever happen in Nigeria? Hell no. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12157599 Furthermore, if it wasn't for the advent of the internet and the digital generation with forums like this N'land, most Nigerians would be still shaking cowardly underneath their beds praying to the almighty for salvation , Bring on 2015 , The system cannot impoverish and starve 100+ million Africans indefinitely , it's bound to implode When the brown stuff hits the fan, start running helter skelter and duck for cover, |
The joke is that according to my research, the East and West regions never had any major disputes and had always got along until the events that led to the civil war , so it is easy to conclude here that this so called mistrust is due to ethnic egos , what a waste , this is why Europeans rule the species, it's always about logic , Peeps please do some research about "the rise and fall of Count Dracula" , you will find out how the Europeans colluded in order to stop Islamic encroachment in Europe , Put your big complacent egos aside and collude, this is a case for pure logic , it's time to adapt. |
Metalgoong:@ Metalgoong It serves no purpose to abuse and degrade the Yoruba because of what happened in the run-up to the war, it was never a them and us scenario, and you know it. Loads of Yoruba supported Biafra, but had to let logic prevail for self preservation reasons. I put it to you that even though Ndigbo had a legitimate bonafide grievance, it was the wrong time to try to separate. This issue was never about tribal ego's, it was about logic, it's time to put our differences aside in order to achieve the desired result. The enemy of my enemy is my enemy , or just prepare your kids for perpetual subjugation, |
Metalgoong:Well that's why its a referendum, its your opinion which you're entitled to assert even if I disagree with it, however I'd be willing to die for your right to assert it. So far as you are aware that the majority of the Ndigbo populace might disagree with you. |
Eziachi:@ bold, is right on the money! |
@ BecomeRich, 1. France was implicated in the genocide that happened in Rwanda. 2. The main implication of your dream of merging with Benin Republic would have the effect of the Odua speaking peoples being the majority speaking peoples in the Benin Republic and that could destabilize the country because the other groups might not want that. 3. The English speaking world will never let this happen, UK and USA will rater we turn into a micro Liberia as opposed to letting us cross lines to the French. Please don't be completely naive into believing that we are completely in control of shaping our destiny. There are external actors pulling strings and we are just puppets. 4. There are signs now that the US will help us split, and the UK will concede to it, only because they are against Islamic domination and not because they want us to join a French created State. For the reasons listed above, I believe you might blow our only chance of seceding from the North relatively peacefully. |
Becomrichn:[size=18pt]@ BecomeRich[/size] I seriously think you're wrong, misguided and naive even though I acknowledge that you are entitled to your opinion. If you know anything about the involvement of the European powers on our continent, you'd know that the French would never let this happen. The Yoruba in Nigeria are anglophonic and we have more in common and can accomplish more if we pool together with the our Eastern countrymen. Similarly, it has to be acknowledged that there are minorities in the east that will object to being encorporated into a newly formed Eastern State. My biggest concern is that by being too greedy and longing for the unattainable, we end up scuttling our only chance to secede from the North. Logic should rule the day and not greed for an ideal state tied to ethnic polities. [size=18pt] Please don't blow what might be our only chance or window of opportunity![/size] |
My prayer for Southern Nigeria [size=18pt]Bring on 2015[/size] If I believed this scenario had anything to do with God, I would say a prayer which would go something like this: Thank you lord for providing us (Southern Nigerian's) with an opportunity to end an era of Northern led, pro radical Islamist tyranny and domination that was setup by a British man called Lugard, hence I give Lugard a single finger salute. I acknowledge that in Southern Nigeria we have 'progressive Muslims' that generally have the peoples interest (general good) at heart, and some of them are family memebers, relatives, colleagues and friends, but they add value to our polity. We finally have an opportunity to build a progressive State and State apparatus devoted to providing Social Justice to all; to eradicate poverty and hunger; to form good, honest and transparent democratically elected governance; to devise systems (checks and balances) that will curtail capital flight, corruption and tax evasion; to create the pinnacle environment of opportunites for all; to acknowledge, seek penance and atone for the error of judgement of the ways of our ancestors regarding slavery and exploitation; to unleash the creative, innovative, entrepreneurial passions of all individuals; to create an environment where competition ensures the availability of cheap goods for all and not cost three times the price as they are in the West; to develop our Utopia, a black mans paradise that would be the envy of the world, and would be the hub of Africa, for with your grace, we are confident, we are educated for the purpose, we will succeed and we refuse to lose. Amen No system can starve and enslave 100 million+ Africans forever, the system will eventually implode , Hunger has an amazing effect on human behavior , Bring on 2015 |
[size=18pt]Bring on 2015[/size] If I believed this scenario had anything to do with God, I would say a prayer which would go something like this: Thank you lord for providing us (Southern Nigerian's) with an opportunity to end an era of Northern led, pro radical Islamist tyranny and domination that was setup by a British man called Lugard, hence I give Lugard a single finger salute. I acknowledge that in Southern Nigeria we have 'progressive Muslims' that generally have the peoples interest (general good) at heart, and some of them are family memebers, relatives, colleagues and friends, but they add value to our polity. We finally have an opportunity to build a progressive State and State apparatus devoted to providing Social Justice to all; to eradicate poverty and hunger; to form good, honest and transparent democratically elected governance; to devise systems (checks and balances) that will curtail capital flight, corruption and tax evasion; to create the pinnacle environment of opportunites for all; to acknowledge, seek penance and atone for the error of judgement of the ways of our ancestors regarding slavery and exploitation; to unleash the creative, innovative, entrepreneurial passions of all individuals; to create an environment where competition ensures the availability of cheap goods for all and not cost three times the price as they are in the West; to develop our Utopia, a black mans paradise that would be the envy of the world, and would be the hub of Africa, for with your grace, we are confident, we are educated for the purpose, we will succeed and we refuse to lose. Amen No system can starve and enslave 100 million+ Africans forever, the system will eventually implode , Hunger has an amazing effect on human behavior , Bring on 2015 |
[size=18pt]Yes please.[/size] Bearing in mind, if you vote against you are pro European superiority and confirm that they have the right to create our living space, a very simple argument. |
[size=18pt]Bring on 2015[/size] If I believed this scenario had anything to do with God, I would say a prayer which would go something like this: Thank you lord for providing us (Southern Nigerian's) with an opportunity to end an era of Northern led, pro radical Islamist tyranny and domination that was setup by a British man called Lugard, hence I give Lugard a single finger salute. I acknowledge that in Southern Nigeria we have 'progressive Muslims' that generally have the peoples interest (general good) at heart, and some of them are family memebers, relatives, colleagues and friends, but they add value to our polity. We finally have an opportunity to build a progressive State and State apparatus devoted to providing Social Justice to all; to eradicate poverty and hunger; to form good, honest and transparent democratically elected governance; to devise systems (checks and balances) that will curtail capital flight, corruption and tax evasion; to create the pinnacle environment of opportunites for all; to acknowledge, seek penance and atone for the error of judgement of the ways of our ancestors regarding slavery and exploitation; to unleash the creative, innovative, entrepreneurial passions of all individuals; to create an environment where competition ensures the availability of cheap goods for all and not cost three times the price as they are in the West; to develop our Utopia, a black mans paradise that would be the envy of the world, and would be the hub of Africa, for with your grace, we are confident, we are educated for the purpose, we will succeed and we refuse to lose. Amen No system can starve and enslave 100 million+ Africans forever, the system will eventually implode , Hunger has an amazing effect on human behavior , Bring on 2015 |
[size=18pt]Bring on 2015[/size] No system can starve and enslave 100 million+ Africans indefinitely, the system will eventually implode , Hunger has an amazing effect on human behavior , Bring on 2015 |
[size=18pt]One step forward , 10 steps backwards![/size] I find it hard to acknowlege that our generation, are soooo pitiful, devoid of ideas and pitifully are willing to revert to the same ole crap , So Buhari is going to modernize our economy, change it from the status quo , from an economy that was only to serve as supplying raw and unrefined products or materials to the mother country, Britain and subsequently, Western economies, dream on peeps, The "Independence generation" have simply failed to use their imagination as a tool to modernize our economy to a modern, receptive, digital age economy. What do our 60+ citizens know about the digital age, broad band, fibre optics, Ebay, FaceBook, Twitter, etc. Bring on 2015 - for crying out loud - and let us build our utopia (which will be the envy of the world) in what is left of Southern Nigeria, for we are confident and refuse to lose. Those responsible for starving the people will pay, those responsible for shedding innocent blood will pay, those propping up the dysfunctional State status for personal gain will pay. |
ROSSIKE:[size=18pt]@ ROSSIKE LOL , haha you’re hilarious, I take it you’re a skeptic.[/size] |
alj harem1: Seriously, Alj Harem, you’re wrong , it should not be about demographics or religion , it should be about solutions and results , the Nigerian Economy is underperforming for a reason , if a government could provide a scenario that is conducive to 90+% employment rate with no inflation and cheap goods, no Nigerian would give a toss where that the leader of that government is from. Similarly, if a Southerner is gifted enough to steer this Nation in the right direction and we witness positive results then he should be allowed to get on with the job. |
alj harem1:@ bold, I would argue that this is precisely the reason why we have to split. Whereas I do not hate our Northern countrymen (because they are Africans), however, I hate what they stand for. The raison d'etre of the unity of Northern Nigeria is to subjugate their Southern countrymen and irrespective of how bitter or unsavoury this sounds it is the truth and it means that we as a nation have serious problems that cannot be swept under the carpet. When Northerners talk about being united inorder to face (subjugate , really) a common enemy then it is time to acknowledge that we have problems. We inherited a country from the British Empire that dictated as part of the empires policy that we cannot export manufactured or refined products to the developed world, only raw materials or unrefined products. That was/is the status quo and when you have one portion of the population that will do anything to retain the status quo at any cost, then the main opportunity cost will be our national development. Imagine, they do not offer any intellectual leadership about how to steer our economy into a modern competitive economy, they just exist and unite behind the banner of not letting the southerners rule. Seriously, Southerners have to wake up and smell the coffee. Regarding the squabbling between people of Southern Nigeria, the Western, Midwestern, SS, and SE regions as ‘geographical expressions’ to be considered as independent states is that they will arbitrarily include minority groups that might not be willing to be part of the country. Moreover, Igbo people, realistically would not want to be confined to the borders of a country formed in the SE (and why should they), as this would be detrimental to their traits of involvement in economic activities, trade and commerce. The best bet would be for the South to get together and discuss how to co-exist inorder to build a new nation from a stakeholders perspective. |
BetaThings:[size=18pt]Jakande single handedly destroyed the established missionary Schooling system of Lagos State. In his attempt to extend free education to the masses, he embarked on illegal land grabbing activities, abolishing the boarding aspects amongst other preposterous policies of some very impressive schools that were setup to rival western schools such as Methodist Boys, Igbobi College, St gregory’s, Baptist Academy, St Finbars , up till the 80’s these schools had fantastically high standards, so I do not agree that Jakande was the best Governor Nigeria ever had. [/size] |
Musiwa,:Funny guy, lol, but very true |
[size=18pt]Photoshoped, case dismissed.[/size] |
There are loads of Nigerian market women in Hong Kong markets with market stalls speaking Chinese fluently. Its actually amazing to see, I think the Africans ability to adapt is not being recognised here. |
Hey I used to check a girl that shared similar traits to this Julie and she really used to get aggressive if she didn’t get a good hammering within a week. Now I’m not being crude, looool, but note , 25 years old without the hint of a boyfriend in the UK , pleeeease , no wonder she’s got so much aggression. From experience, this is nothing that a good hammering can’t rectify, I’m just keeping it real. |
^^^^^^ lol, funny Sh@it |
Well they best have a credible test for Senile Dementia for the 70 and 80 something year olds because when they start cracking up they will really be in positions to really f@cuk things up. |
justise: What exactly did he do wrong?[size=18pt]@ Justise[/size] You are either playing devil’s advocate here or you’re a closet Al-Qaeda sympathizer because you sure do reason like one. Tell the Nazi hunters and the court at The Hague that this epitome of evil was just efficiently executing his duties under orders. You forget that a precedent has already been set in the international court. Every Nigerians life and blood is sacrosanct and precious hence those that continually involve themselves in unconstitutional acts of arbitrarily shedding the blood of individuals due to the inadequate protection afforded by the State will eventually get their just deserts. |
It makes me laugh when people talk about Dubai and its development out of context. ‘Dubai World’ – the firm responsible for the main property development owes its creditors (a series of UK Banks) approximately $18 Billion USD. Moreover, they have also had to renegotiate the terms of paying back their loans due to problems associated with the global recession. Their creditors face a 9 year repayment instalment delay. Hence it is not true to claim that Dubai was built solely on oil money. Check out the link below. http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/mar/23/dubai-world-delays-debt-repayment tEsLim : |
@ ROSSIKE, you are 100% on the money with this one. (Sarcastically) Apparently, only Europeans can achieve a union of sorts or more integration because they are SUPERHUMAN (lol). Seriously, African time has got to stop, always arriving late after the event, I was always taught that ‘you snooze, you lose’, however the problem here is that we are still losing. It isn’t as if the concept of ‘AU’ is a new concept and only linked to Ghadaffi, Nkrumah was espousing this in the late 50s and 60s. ROSSIKE: |
Bill Gates, Richard Branson, Alan Sugar, Duncan Ballantyne, Henry Ford (what do they have in common?) None of them attained degrees per se. |
[size=20pt]Meritocracy required to produce visionary leaders![/size] The problem is that we don’t have a meritocracy and potential visionary leaders are not likely to break through all the way to the top, nevertheless, things are slowly changing. Imagine someone like BRF (Fashola) with clear purpose, vision and leadership and ask yourselves if he could get to be President in today’s Nigeria, and if your answer is no, then why not? Furthermore, whilst considering his traits, and all he has strived to achieve, imagine how much he could really achieve if he had dictatorial powers (not that I’m advocating this, I’m just citing examples). If we turn to a meritocracy, and start getting the right personnel into positions then progress and development would flourish |
DapoBear: @ DapoBear The kind of control that you seek, desire or is required will only be achieved by implementing structural change of the type that threatens the status quo. The status quo was setup by the colonial vampires and entrenched by our Northern countrymen, that is why Lugard had a preference for Northerners to rule as they were deemed to be more ‘conservative’ and thus would keep the status quo. Furthermore, British policy all over the empire dictated that Nigeria as a colony could only engage in trading raw materials and never refined products. Which means we could only export raw petroleum and not refined petroleum ( a policy that I believe has only been recently changed since the Obama Administration – check out the history of the World Trade Agreement) At this stage, any Administration that attempts to challenge the status quo (or upset the apple cart) will risk being destabilized and even key personnel within it risk being assassinated, such is the power of the Multinationals and every Federal Administration is aware of it. My point again is that it is a grand illusion to assert that “we are the ones selling them oil and gas”, we are not in control of the situation and never have been. The job of the FGN is to maintain and enforce order at any cost in order for the Multinationals to continue to exploit our resources (and to manage local affairs). I would be willing to bet my bottom $£N on this that there will be no reaction to this news, no inquiry, no investigations nothing. Had this been Washington, London, Moscow or Beijing there would be hell to pay and heads would roll. The acts of the placed officials in key positions leaking information is tantamount to espionage/treason. |
Nigeria has no sovereignty and our alleged state of independence is a falsehood, a massive illusion. Multinationals rule the roost, and this has been proven time and time again. Every Nigerian Administration has it’s price, and there are no shortage of sell out’s (enemies within) or takers amongst the elite |
exactly , there are unimaginable and uncontrolable forces at play here , and you are all phucking pawns
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