₦airaland Forum

Paperwhite:
This country should say no to the corrupt bicameral NASS.Meanwhile both the presidency,NASS & judiciary in Nigeria are all corrupt.

I agree completely with you that the bicameral legislature should go. Even though Buhari has not done too well I give it to him for standing up to these "legislooters". Budget padding has been the stock-in-trade of these national assembly members since 1999 till date, we would never have known but for Buhari who chose to expose the practice. It has to stop.

frowland:
Please erosion is wholely a Federal Govermnent matter and NOT state. That is how uninformed most of you are.

Erosion is an ecological issue. I am wondering about why governors collect ecological funds from FG only to fritter it away.

And these governors have been collecting ecological funds since 1999 without anything to show for it.

I think that the FG should probe how this ecological funds has been spent in all states from 1999 till date. It was the diversion of ecological funds that costed Dariye his freedom.

Crazy Nigerians giving us bad names all over. This guy deserves to be shot or at least given a life sentence.

What he did is tantamount to 'murder'; how is this woman supposed to survive when someone fleeces her of $356,000?

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TonyeBarcanista:
RIP to her

Ndonu101:
I don’t take what he says seriously anymore

After the World Cup this fool should go back to wherever he calls home

A Nigerian coach will do better!

The team against Atletico Madrid is far better than this team

When Keshi, Siasia, Oliseh handled the Super Eagles Nigerians were clamouring for a foreign coach. But now it is obvious that some of our indigenous coaches are better than these so called foreign coaches.

The trio I mentioned above are far better than this Rohr.

LadyMarionette:
Actually, no. Men are cheaper. 2,500 women have had this guy. If twenty-five hundred people know you like that you're simply classless. This man has no respect for himself and my guess is that he must be dealing with unresolved psychological issues.

Nice comeback!

Reno and his likes were the ones who made GEJ to lose in the 2015 election. When you want to sell your candidate you do so without insulting the intelligence of the electorate.

The truth is that no powerful man like governor or senator was jailed under GEJ, so claiming credits for the recent convictions of Nyame and Dariye does not cut it. This would not resonate with the electorates. Reno should have learnt "Simlin Wendell's" infamy.

fabre4:
I believe being named after a university is the highest honor you can get... just like OAU... maybe tinubu wanted UNILAG for himself seeing he may never get GCFR I thinks that was the reason for his disapproval not that he was doing MKO OR UNILAG any favor

But it wasn't only Tinubu that rejected the naming. Even Afe Babalola who is pro PDP rejected it. I think that UNILAG had already assumed a life of its own and renaming would have eroded its brand equity and perhaps that was why a lot of people kicked against renaming it as MAULAG.

obailala:
This 'food' was the principal reason I supported Buhari to be president. Unfortunately, 3 years after, and we've only been served with a single plate. Hopefully we would get more soon.

I think we have been served 2 plates now, as 2 ex governors have been sentenced.

GavelSlam:
Dariye's judgement sending seismic shivers down some spines

Very correct observation. That Dariye's judgement is a brain resetting judgement for anybody that has looted our collective wealth in this country.

seymourcash:
I don't think she is a strong woman these people seem to be playing out a script. why is it that only Christian northern governors have been convicted it looks like foul play.

Why did Christian northern governors steal? Did they steal in the name of northern Christians? Abeg make them answer their papa name.

dru23:
To all my fellow ubers Partners and fellow nairalanders ,this uber drivers dey frustrate your guy... am tired o , I want go into IT full time.. Can you reccomend any IT coy in Lagos that pay well.. I need to transit to another job ...I hear IT is the way and I can get people to partner with me ...let the discussion start I beg

I think you should make this a topic by itself to gain the necessary traction. I wish you success as you transit from one field to another.

Paperwhite:
I inturn tender my unreserved apologized for my misguided opinion on the initial press release by the bank in an earlier thread on this forum.

A very wise thing to do. To err is human. My advise to anybody that cares to listen is to watch as events unfold in the court(s).

When everything has been laid bare and final judgements have been delivered, then we would know the guilty party. It is easy for anybody taking sides now to err as we are not all privy to what happened between the two parties.

NoSidonLook:
it pains me that its this same buhari that is honouring a man like abiola.
he doesnt deserve to honour men like abiola.
now some people think this evil buhari is a saint

I can only wonder why OBJ didn't honour MKO and at least gain whatever political capital that he could. I would have asked the same question of Musa Yaradua except for the fact that he died in the course of his Presidency and maybe he would have done something to immortalize him. GEJ at least tried to name UNILAG after MKO but OBJ didn't try at all.

Dareal90s:
Another Igbo Amaka, they come to Lagos to constitute nuisance, Igbo's nd crime be like rice nd stew.

I was actually hoping that it would not degenerate to this point. Please, let us refrain from introducing tribal slant to this criminal issue.

God bless you.

maestroferddi:
Now that you have gone off at a tangent, how do I drum objectivity into your seemingly impenetrable skull?

I still maintain that your are a bundle of nerves and emotions.

You use uncouth language and at the same time your soliciting pity parties all over the place.

This predilection to dual/split personality is completely repugnant/objectionable to me.

I am sorry I cannot help you...

I do not solicit pity parties and I have nothing to be emotional about; I have no vested interest in either GTB or IVM.

The only interest I have in the case is that justice should be done to deepen best-in-class ethical practices in Nigeria business environment.

As to my use of uncouth language, I plead guilty as charged but you initiated it and there is a saying that the man who brought ants infested wood to his house has sent out an invite to the lizards.

No one has a monopoly of insulting others online.

I maintain that I do not engage in pity parties and I do not do mob attacks because I can defend my turf.

I welcome divergent views because I believe that plurality of ideas is the bedrock of a civilized community and infact it is an ingredient for deepening our body of knowledge as a people but I will reciprocate in equal measure any attempt to insult my person.

maestroferddi:
Your innuendos are wide off the mark.

I choose not to live with the quicksilver inconstancy that apparently characterize the thrust of your argument...

One moment you are advancing a spurious argument bereft of objectivity in favour of GT Bank, the next time asking you are trying to project a futile argument on equity without tracking your earlier submissions which are at variance with your new position.

When all failed, you went to the emotional card... trying out to play victimhood.

My take, heretofore, is that you suit yourself.

I choose not to believe that you are schizophrenic. And I want to again believe that you do not suffer selective amnesia.

If those 2 possibilities are eliminated I am left with the only option of concluding that you are a pathetic liar.

How have I played the victim card. Read over my various exchanges with you on this forum. On one occasion, I advised that we should maintain civility in our discourse even if we have divergent opinions. You responded that it wasn't your intention to denigrate and I left it at that.

Today, you went berserk again attacking my person instead of issues. Our exchanges are available for all to read and they are on record.

babaolofin:
It is not a matter of Igbo & Yoruba idiots coming online to support business interests, saying that is an attempt to protect a group of crude & uncivilized people who have become nuisance to an entity called Nigeria. GT Bank has never made available any malicious statement or false information or propaganda about the outcome of a judgement by the Apex Court. The corporate governance policy of such bank can never allow them to give out such information. Zenith, Diamond , UBA & others have corporate policies that will never allow a key management member to give out false information to the public.

It is those that tribalise issues affecting their kinsmen that are the greatest problem of themselves & Nigeria. You only attempted to cover them by mixing issue together. Issues affecting Ibeto, Innoson, Ekweremadu ( EFCC case), Stella Oduah (AMCON), etc are termed anti Igbo. Immediately, the GTB / Innoson case came on Nairaland & some social media last year, the Igbos termed it anti Igbo threatening to fall GT Bank by all means without looking at issues. I said, it is an empty boast.

We have other people in Nigeria having problems with Banks. We have politicians having problems with EFCC. No tribe has ever introduced ethnic colouration, but immediately it involves an Igbo or IBO, there is a crisis. While awaiting 2023, or the declaration of Biafra Republic, it pays to be objective, make less noise & dissipate less energy on propaganda. Innoson staff has attacked EFCC officials & violated the integrity of the supreme court, yet, nothing can be done because of Igbo propaganda.

The ethnic colouration is uncalled for honestly. There wasn't ethnic colouration when the 2 parties were doing business together happily, why should ethnic bias be introduced at this point in time?

maestroferddi:
Good that you conceded that you were shooting from sinking/shifting sands...

How did I concede this? Do you have comprehension problem? I have maintained my position, that the legal fireworks are on and we should allow the judicial process play out.

That courts of competent jurisdiction have ordered GT Bank to pay Innoson is not in doubt.

Various high courts of coordinate jurisdiction have given different judgement concerning the matter at hand. There was a high Court that issued a warrant of arrest against the Chairman of IVM. And I'm aware that EFCC has attempted to press some fraud charges against him, rightfully or wrongfully I am not in a position to tell.

What this tells us, is that there are divergent judgments and opinions on this matter. Hence, I am waiting for all the legal fireworks to play out while praying that the right party would ultimately get justice.

The matter at hand is that GT Bank is praying that their appeal be heard/determined by the Supreme Court.

Well, there you go again displaying crass ignorance while you pontificate as some legal luminary or judicial authority cum international trade expert.

GT Bank did not pray that her appeal should be heard by the Supreme court, rather GTB prayed the Supreme court to direct the appeal court to hear her appeal. And, the Supreme Court in its wisdom has so directed.

Get your hapless self acquainted/up to speed with the matter and stop projecting ignorance as if were a virtue...

Up to this moment, I have chosen to address issues without attacking your personality, however, I crave your indulgence to say that you think too highly of yourself.

Nairalanders and guests can read the one who has displayed crass ignorance and unnecessary bias in a case involving 2 indigenous companies.

I leave you with the words of a sage which go thus: "While the big animals like cows lay on the field chewing their cuds quietly, small insects like crickets continued chirping noisily in an attempt to deceive people into thinking that they are the only occupants of the field"

maestroferddi:
What you are making now is a classic blind argument.

One expects you to have had a modicum of knowledge concerning the matter.

This case in point has travelled all the way to the Supreme Court. So the question whether there is a subsisting judgement is dumb, to put it mildly.

If you do not know that the apex court serves as the final arbiter/highest appellate court whose responsibility primarily is to validate or nullify/reverse verdicts of lower courts, then we shouldnt be having this interchange.

In any case, the current brief of the Supreme Court is that the status quo ante be maintained: that is, that the ruling of the Court Appeal, Enough Division be maintained while GT Bank's notice/motion of appeal is heard.

What does the foregoing mean other than that GT Bank comply with the verdict of the lower court which was in Innoson's favour be obeyed subject to a legal/adjudicatory review by the Supreme Court.

Can you now that you were merely shadow boxing instead of making the effort to argue from the position of knowledge?

Pray, what is blind argument in advising that we should allow all parties to exhaust their legal options and praying that the innocent party gets justice.

If there is a judgement debt in favor of IVM then let them go and get a garnishee order. That should not be a difficult thing to do, don't you think so?

maestroferddi:
Oga stop wearing emotions on your sleeves.

I find your choice of words in your quoted statement ludicrous!

For crying out loud, how am I suppose to be 'wearing my emotions on my sleeve' according to you.

I have always insisted that both parties should go to the court and argue their cases as I believe that both parties are innocent until either of them is proven guilty. Both IVM and GTB are Nigerian businesses with a lot of people on their payroll hence I pray that the wronged party gets justice so that we can improve on our ethical standards.

You on the other hand have pronounced one of the parties, GTB in this case, guilty in your own court.

The arguments of both parties, with the deployment of quality legal representation, have been subjected to extensive/thorough legal scrutiny and yet Innoson dusted GT Bank.

I am yet to see a court verdict declaring either of the party guilty.

So what the hell are you talking about?

If you are one of the judges and you find GTB guilty, please instruct GTB to pay damages as needed and stop bellyaching. Justice delayed is justice denied!

But if you are not one of the judges with the requisite competence to pronounce any of the parties guilty, then allow the courts to do their work.

maestroferddi:
If you had a reasonable idea on import finance transaction banking, you would see that GT Bank's allegations are ridiculous.

It is ridiculous for you to insinuate that your expertise in import finance is far ahead of several finance experts in GTB besides the legal minds that are handling GTB's brief.

If you care to know, finance is one of my areas of expertise and I do not see what is ridiculous in GTB's allegations if they can substantiate them.

maestroferddi:
With due respect, I don't think the management of GT Bank are acting smart on this lingering issue.

Why not pursue an out of court resolution?

If GTB are the victims and they have evidences to substantiate their claims why should they initiate an out of court settlement? That would not be in the bank's interest as that may suggest that the bank has something to hide too.

Bolustical:
The party could have gone to the Nigerian Copyright Commission to patent that idea na

Jobless people

Infact, I have now confirmed that many are mad in Nigeria but few are roaming.

HungerBAD:
What arrogance.

He said and I quote " removal of security aides from deserving Nigerians".

Deserving Nigerians?the deserving Nigerians are those getting harrassed by the SARS every day on the road,while going about their legitimate businesses.

This guy reminds me of all the big Pastors in Nigeria,who go around with plenty of security details,but still tell their followers to have faith in God against Armed Robbers.

SECURITY DETAILS to all Politicians should be removed,so that these thieves can now start understanding what ordinary Nigerians go through.

I second this your motion that is in emphasis.

Pavore9:
Why hasn't MURIC warn Shekau over the use of the hijab in suicide bombing?

Very intelligent question. I hope someone can write an open letter to muric using this your question as the topic or theme.

Muric spoke out of order on this issue. The symbolism of the girls in hijab dancing shaku shaku is to convey a message that Nigerians do wrong things while clad in religious apparels. In real life, it is not unlikely that you would see some girls in hijab doing worst things than dancing shaku shaku. In the same vein, you will see some Christians doing things that run contrary to the teachings of Jesus Christ.

ranmoor:
OK ooo, I rest my case ooo. I know little abt food, I'm just a consumer..

No wahala my brother. You may parboil before rinsing just to be on the safe side. I used to share your sentiments but my interactions with some USDA officials and exposure to some research findings showed that USDA and other national food regulatory agencies had a basis for the recommendation.

kimbraa:
As in eh! You didn't include dust. He'll be poisoning himself if he tries it.

To get rid of the dust you mentioned, you may parboil the meat before washing so that the germs would have been killed before handling. The risk in handling fresh meat is high. With salmonella, e coli and the rest.

ranmoor:
U know those oyinbo don't use "omi eran" to cook...

They do and that is what is called meat stock.

ranmoor:
Are u kidding, because of the risk of contaminating the kitchen that will still be cleaned, I should contaminate my stomach? My bro, outside is tougher than inside oo

The scientific rationale for the advice of not washing raw meat is that washing with water will not kill those germs that you fear but you would have handled those germs in their unattenuated form.

Boiling the raw meat will however kill those germs.

ranmoor:
Bro, when u read something from internet, try n relate it to Oyinbo ways not ours. I'm sure the writer will be referring to beef/meet u buy in ASDA, Sainsbury, Coop or Tesco... Those meat including chicken comes neat n sealed. Not the ones u buy at mile 12 that all the flies in the world would have perched on it.

The very reasons why you are advised against washing raw meats are very present in the Nigerian meat markets. Infact, you can argue that it might be safer to wash meats from Costco, ASDA, WholeFoods and the rest because the meats would have been cleaned partly before you buy them.

Unfortunately, because of the unhygienic handling of meats in our markets, most of the meats will be germs ridden. Since, you will be washing these meats with only water (i.e. without disinfectant) there is a high risk that droplets of water with germs will splash and infect places in the kitchen. Getting in contact with such water droplets afterwards can be very risky.

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