₦airaland Forum

Devdevdev:
I'm not a conspiracy theorist but the answer I've gotten is making me lean a bit in that direction regarding this subject.

Interesting, maybe you need to get more sleep

On a serious note, I do not know about the lying aspect but your research is true in some areas, Python is majorly for DSA & I rarely see any job roles for Django or Flask, only ML & Data Science engineers use it which aren't that much. Few companies also use Python as their Backend preferred language.

Programming is divided into 2 parts, Freelancing vs Full-time work, the job market & skills needed for both is wide apart, that is why It seems like social media is lying to you. For Freelance, you will need a good knowledge of PHP (Wordpress, Magento, Drupal and Shopify etc), Nodejs, Javascript & Frontend frameworks. For full-time work, you will need a good knowledge of DSA & then other languages and tools you need to learn for either Backend, Frontend or Devops work.

The most annoying part of this is that, Freelancing actually has more job security because you deal with many clients and if lucky, you may even have two long-term contracts for 2 years where earn like you work full-time. No stress & you can sack your client by moving on to another.

Full-time however moves you up the career ladder for positions like Associate Developer, Senior, Staff, Senior Staff & Principal engineer in like 5 to 10 years. Even though these are role titles, it doesn't always mean you earn better than a freelancer because you're a principal engineer.

Hannania:
It affects everything bro. It's a global thing. Nigerian startups have begun doing the same. Kenyan and Ugandan startups have had the worst hit so far

Oh really? Can you point me to the Nigerian companies firing? Because right now people are looking for Developers in Lagos and cannot even find. Bank developers have all left for Canada.

tensazangetsu20:
The thing shock me o. Me wey no sabi shishi

Loool, that's not how it works oh. The agency is seeing you as an asset because 1. You have made a lot of cash for them by splitting your income with them. 2. You have proved yourself in the current company 3. If you lose your job today, you'll be the first in line to suggest for another company. Tech with agencies is the best because they do the hard work for you, yours is to represent them in a good light.

Hannania:
Twitter and stripe lay off approximately 50% and 14% of staff today respectively. More firms plan to do so in the coming months(foreseeable recession).

How do you feel at your workplace?

What's the situation there?

Are you Nigeria? If yes, you have nothing to worry about o. It won't affect you. If you work for an agency, It won't affect you as well.

qtguru:
My colleague is American, he earns way more than me, but I do most of the job, he codes too but na me dey fix most of the bugs because of experience. Sometimes it's luck also, sometimes life is not fair.

He is based in the US abi? Cost of living is a lot nau. He could also be managing with his income, not sure he is having fun like you think.

Devdevdev:
I started my programming journey two months ago. I've been working harder than I've ever worked in my life. I've spent endless hours pouring through codes while denying myself of all the fun and interesting things I usually do. The goal was to know enough to start applying for remote jobs.

But with the recent tech layoffs, I feel like there is almost no hope for beginners like me cos I will be competing in a job market flooded with experienced, highly skilled FAANG level programmers who just got laid off. What company will hire me when they can hire a genius who has mastered 5 languages and can solve leetcode problems like it's child's play?

I chose the worst time to begin this journey and now I'm very depressed. I haven't even opened my laptop today..

Are you in Nigeria? If yes, then the recent layoffs doesn't affect you at all.

Nigeria & Africa is going through a very unique problem of scarce developers right now. Most of the great devs have already left Nigeria, people are seeking Senior iOS dev with 500k in Lagos & they cannot even find anyone to accept that money. I myself cannot find a developer with that amount.

The problems in Nigeria are far different from what we have in the West.

You have absolutely nothing to worry about.

EbenG:
Yes, I get your point. It's true. "It needs a lot of improvement".

Let's connect. If you don't mind if I send a dm

Sure, I sent you a DM.

Gerrard59:
But dumping a girl you dated for seven years isn't fair. Then again, why date for so long?

Because there is no money to marry

Let's blame Bubu.

EbenG:
Oh Okay,
I haven't really built a fully-fledged UI-designed production-ready app yet. But, I have seen and read the opinion of other senior developers who have tried it; Compose is stable and production ready. Companies have started adopting it in their products screen by screen, component by component.

I'll assume you talk this way probably because you haven't tried other Mobile UI frameworks like Flutter, Swift UI, and React. The focus and benefits of Compose aren't really about writing less code but of course, it's one of the benefits. The thing is the shift in paradigm from an Inheritance style which the classic XML is designed with to a declarative approach. In the classic XML, we have a View class(which represents a rectangular area on the screen and is responsible for drawing and event handling). The TextView class is a subclass of the View class, which means that TextView inherits all the properties and functionality from the View class, plus adds specific logic for displaying text to the user. The exact hierarchy goes with a Button and an EditText and other ViewGroups. It goes down like a tree structure. Of course, it helps everyone reuse the ability for example for an EditText to have the ability to display stuff. The drawback is that we are limited to building complex UIs. With Compose, we can reuse Composables very easily and it's very intuitive. You can do lots of customization and behavior for your UI very easily. The point about Compose is simply about Composition in object-oriented programming(OOP). You can read more about it.

Like, this style of designing UI is overdue in Native Android. Flutter, Swift UI, and React are already doing well with this approach to building UI.
The only thing I love well about building UI with XML is the WYSIWYG editor which is great. I think it's suitable and helpful for beginners.
That said, you can still use Compose and XML together In your project.

Check this out: Thinking in Compose https://developer.android.com/jetpack/compose/mental-model

I know everything you're talking about regarding declarative approach & Android devs will have no choice in the future but to adopt Compose because that is direction Mobile Engineering is going in general, but Compose specifically being stable and production ready is what I am not quite sure of. I know some few companies using it in production and they are still having to deal with some issues as early adopters.

For example, I used Kotlin Multiplatform from Jetbrains personally and also use it in my company, therefore I can suggest the best usecase for it when asked to recommend, not just because company X or person Y says it's awesome, because they always hype everything, same way they were hyping out React Native but when you actually implement it for big projects, you'd find that the performance was problematic. We wanted to also use Compose earlier this year in my company and after going through the drawbacks, we decided it was not yet time.

My point is, it needs a lot of improvement. It is not yet as awesome as Google engineers make it seem. At least not yet.

If you really want to get proper feedback of Developers regarding a tool, ask on @AndroidDevs Reddit.

EbenG:
I just started learning about compose and it's just too awesome and beautiful. I remember the boilerplate code we usually write using recyclerview, adapter and view holder to display a list. This is now a breeze with LazyColumn composable with just 3-5 lines of code. This is just one out of many awesome stuff it has.
When building your UI with compose, you're mostly thinking of rows and columns.
I believe it's still growing and needs more improvement. Plus, google is fully supporting it

Have you built a fully fledged UI designed production app yet with Compose though? I don't mean to sound like a kill-joy but less code doesn't always mean it's better. For you to know the full power of a toolkit, you need to build a full fledged application & deploy it to production. If you're implementing MVVM or MVI with clean architecture, you're going to be writing a lot of boilerplate code on Android anyway, so that one is normal.

I would have more positive feedback when i have explored it to a large extent. I need to find all the Sweet spots myself. Another issue is stability, you have to stay on a specific Compose version and remain on it else each time you update, you might start getting compile time errors because things change really quick.

.

I swear OP, you're just a TROLL.

Just in 5 days, you have created countless threads.

1c3JaY:
He's also a beginner...

I think this is the major problem, generally when you start learning new stuff, you're eager to tell everyone how to learn. People cannot just calm down and relax to learn for at least 6 months before they start advising us on how to do bla bla bla.

At some point you would need to learn from books because some concepts would need proper reading before you can understand.

Greatchidozie:
For those of you that thinks this is just about getting people to buy the ebook, I have no words for you.

I added my LinkedIn profile for those that think I am here to hustle people to survive.

I have a good paying job and if you want to make a career change but don't want to invest in getting a guide to help you do that, I wish you all the best.

But if you need a detailed plan on how to get started and you're will to invest in that future be my guest.

Why do I charge if I have a good paying job you'll ask. Simple answer is I invested time and effort writing that and took time to research the topic.

This is my last response to the criticism.

This book is targeted to people who wants change and are committed to making that happen.

I just checked your Linkedin profile now and can't find the book, you should have just added a link to the book to your post. Just drop the links so people can see it.

Edit: Okay seen the book, It was added to your Nairaland profile.

You should give us a glimpse of one of two pages of the book, the same way Amazon books allow readers to see a page or two. Just to get the feel of what to expect.

jansonn:
Hi guys!!
In my previous threads, i requested for help on how to dive into tech, where to start and all. I always appreciate the swift response from bosses here. thanks alot. the journey has'nt been sweet actually!! there's been alot of learning , mistakes and relearning but i,m glad i did,nt give up, still wont give up. this is not a success story yet oo, i'm still broke and have not earned a dime from tech but i believe i will soon.
i just built my portfolio with basic html, css and vanilla js. i'd appreciate constructive criticism and internship opportunities, paid or unpaid.

OP just continue, whether med-tech or just tech. There is no way you would continue learning from now to February 25th 2023 election day that you wouldn't have grabbed a lot of knowledge. ASUU strike isn't going any where for now, as Buhari isn't going on another term therefore he doesn't care if students forfeit their education. So just continue the Internship.

TastyFriedPussy:
And it will never be sweet for you in Jesus name... so you're even a medical doctor transitioned into tech? You and other medical doctors and pharmacists trying to go into coding are very big he-goats idiots in the making that will only end up failing. Thunder scatter all of you. What happened to your medical field? Or you guys no longer want to make your parents proud again? You people always belittle people who intended to study Computer science that year, calling them all sorts of names, saying rubbish about the course and people who study them. But now na the same CS all of una don dey rush come, bunch of idiots you're gonna fail woefully in this field I assure you that, you won't earn shishi from it, better go and face your medicine jejely, rubbish

You people use to see your selves as Demi Gods in the society, every parent wanted their kids to study medicine even if the child does not want to, just attain one yeye social status and be called a medical doctor, (my son is a medical doctor, my daughter is a medical doctor. All those yeye stereotypes)... You and your parents would be looking down on CS students calling them all sorts of derogatory names, saying they will end up as phone repairers on the streets. Back then, A child in the average Nigerian home can't say he wants to study CS without getting instantly rebuked by his parents just because of the same stereotype. That was how my dad refused me to study my CS five years ago after secondary school. Instead he forced me to go study pharmacy, just because he wants to use me to brag to his friends who's children are also medical doctors and pharmacists. Now I'm a drop out because I couldn't continue the useless course and he's being blaming me even since. Rubbish... And I'm even sure you never had passion for medicine, you only wanted to study it just to look good to the society and your parents... Rubbish

You guys should better face your medicine and pharmacy, leave programming alone ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh. idiots

YOU ARE JUST A NONENTITY!

This poster is not the cause of your problems in life & he was not the one who insisted that you study Pharmacy. Please go and settle whatever grudge you had with your father, that is nobody's business on Nairaland, my own is quit acting like a spoilt brat that you are.

He studied Medicine & surgery, then moved into tech. Please how is that your business or that of your family members?

I can assure you that this poster will eventually become successful while you're here blaming your parents for their own mistakes with you. He will earn money from this tech insha allah!.

Zubby2005:
My thought exactly, an extrovert moving into tech is not beans, as an introvert I stay indoors only which allows me to concentrate.
And besides the other professionals should stock to their business, you only enjoy Tech when you're driven by passion not by money, many ppl don't know this thereby the don't even last up to 2 months and they're done .
...Stick to what you are good at.

You can still do it, its just to dedicate certain hours daily for coding, then certain hours for hanging out.

Extroverts moving into tech make way more money and they are even more recognized. They are the ones who do Developer Advocate roles. They talk more in conferences, network with more people. Have YouTube channels. Being an extrovert always more advantage in life generally.

TastyFriedPussy:
I'm not saying we should not compete..my own be sey let all those doctors, bankers and pharmacist(especially the doctors and pharmacist) should gettat with immediate effect... We don't need them in tech. They should carry their money driven career prostitution somewhere else..they are nothing but idiots, all of them

You are so angry, calm down bro. I know those people might have said somethings to you in the past but just forget it and move on. Thats life.

Besides, tech just picked up financially in Nigeria in 2019/2020, so we have to be grateful too. If not for remote work, most people will be earning 200k to 500k after many years experience.

qtguru:
I've blocked for less, e.g being rude I just don't like the idea of dating students, I don't think we would be able to relate on life journey. Her battle is lecturer and grades, while mine is looking for funds.

But the issue is not even about dating, I don't think you are understanding me. You meet someone at a venue, you exchanged numbers, then the person introduces herself as a student later on, on WhatsApp. So the response is just outright blocking? Blocking every where.

Okay, maybe I am just old fashioned sha. That's why all this is like film to me.

qtguru:
I only date employed working women, we gotta have standards too bro

I know, but would you just block them outrightly? You can just let them know that you are engaged and not interested in anything, then keep it moving na. The blocking feels like they are terrorists or they are endangering your life. Like she blocked him on every platform, that's a bit too excessive if you ask me.

Mrshape:
So e teach in multiply schools upto six schools salary a month that's around
360K or 180K in low income area.
Private lesson let's say 4, 45K each
That's 180K
Online classes let's say $300
=150K

That's 510K to 690K per month. Which
That's for places that is not Lagos or Abuja.
Meanwhile there are lessons that pay up to 200K per child per month

Thanks for the enlightenment, i am wondering why Nigerians automatically think Teachers are puppers. Na wa!

Same thing for Bankers, once a guy is working in a bank, they just think he is a Teller or Cashier, forgetting that bankers have different departments.

tensazangetsu20:
Someone had created this topic a while back on nairaland so I decided to experiment and see this for myself.

Met a girl on twitter and we were vibing and all. Interesting conversations covering almost everything. It was fun. Out of the blue I got asked what do you do for a living and I told the chic I was a teacher and men I got blocked everywhere. WhatsApp, twitter, calls. Damn it was shocking as hell .

Girls in Nigeria aren't smiling at all.

How did you feel afterwards though? It has been very long I did such an experiment, the day I did it, I felt so bad for the whole week & promised not to do that shit again because it messes with your psychology and brings some form of hatred temporarily.

qtguru:
Hypergamy, most of Twitter girls are kinda lazy and looking for levels and poverty program to alleviate their standards. Nice one weeding out. But not to lie, if a lady said she's a student I'd block her too, cuz I don't like broke ladies. So e dey happen

Hmm are you sure you'd actually block her? Not like she has asked for anything yet. Anyway being a teacher is far more different than a student, he could be teaching at British high school for all we know & earning good pay.

Life is not fair sha, make God help us.

.

@Hismercy20

My personal advice is to defer your admission and continue with Microverse software development full-Time program. A Bachelors Degree can be gotten anytime you are ready again, surviving in Nigeria is very important. Do what you must do to increase your income. Dollar rates have increased exponentially, soon that 150k will not be enough. My advice for every Nigerian, whether in Tech, Accounting, HR or any career is to find foreign companies and earn in dollars. With Atiku or Tinubu been favourites to win this coming election, the economy is going to be in shambles in the next 8 years.

jesmond3945:
which country

Thailand, company is Agoda.

qtguru:
Every candidate thinks so, the cost of relocating a Nigeria is expensive and tedious, esp when they can just pick someone else. Nothing is ever sure until you see offer letter or even Visa sef, anything can happen

This one happened to me, I was given an offer but denied visa twice. Naija factor.

tensazangetsu20:
Oh yeah definitely well to me my default expectation with regards to anything is always failure so I really don't flinch when bad things happen. I rarely have good things happen to me so I am good

For me, I know if someone keeps interviewing for a year, one of them will definitely workout and most times It's the one we don't expect that ends up working out. So far the companies that stress me the most in Interviews have ended up giving me the less reward, so I have completely removed my mind from expecting a reward just because I suffered in the process. This is just my personal experience.

tensazangetsu20:
I feel luck is when preparation meets opportunity. It takes a whole lot mentally to be good at algorithms and opportunities are always coming in tech. Imagine Amazon the other day announcing that they are coming to recruit from Nigeria and a dev gets an interview. How would you pass without knowing algorithms. Last year, a career fair was held in Lagos here for tech bros. More than 100 tech guys got jobs in Canada. It was all relocation based and the interview was all Algo based. A lady friend of mine who got a job in Canada that sponsored her visa attended this fair. It's not assurance of job but it's improving your luck. Even when I dont have any interview or anything I will always be prepared cause you never know when that opportunity will come and when that time comes you have to be ready.

I never argued about preparation not meeting opportunity. My point is there is always an element of luck in the company that eventually picks you, the actual decision is not determined by how you pass the interview per say, there are other factors involved. That is why I was stressing to the OP not to worry too much when you fail an Interview, you move to the next one. The engineering manager may not be happy with how you answered one question in particular & frown upon that.

This becomes more prominent if you apply for Senior Roles EG: Senior backend, Senior Frontend, Senior Mobile etc, you won't only have Algo questions. Behavioural questions, System Design Interviews can also be a pain in the neck, ofcourse you'll still have to prepare for that too but then it becomes more trickier. You will also be asked specific questions in your field of expertise and you need to know what you're doing.

There is nothing wrong in preparing for Algos daily, if you have the time and resource, do it. Everybody has to prepare for months to start Interview process.

My point is believing that there is no element of luck in the company that eventually picks you is false. I have done enough Interviews in my lifetime and I can tell you that for free.

LikeAking:
If u believe, then u no b coder.

Sorry!

You're probably new to this industry or maybe just 2 years in, you believe that by being the best leetcoder will get you the best jobs. While this could be true, it could just be suffering without smiling because It doesn't guarantee that you will get the job. That you pass an interview doesn't mean you will get the job. The hiring manager needs to look at your situation all round to make a decision. That's where luck comes in.

OP this advice is for you.

qtguru:
Making Good Progress, Here is my update on the React native App I have been working on, this is my first react native app but alot of the code is largely from MatterMost, I studied their code and built on top of their code. At first it was massively complex, but when you see how the code is broken apart, it's mostly the use of Redux to manage the state and render the component and the rest is mostly dealing with React Navigation.

Bro let's not lie, React Native is super complex and at this point, I won't recommend anyone to learn it.

Initially in 2019, i was regretting not learning it early because a lot of foreign startups were paying a ton for the skill set, I felt really backward and frustrated that I haven't learnt it yet. Fast forward to 2021, I have had many friends use React Native moving from iOS or Android Native development and I can tell you they all complained, most of them moved to Flutter or got back with Native Mobile dev.

Every new startup I see now are going the Flutter way, they want performace optimizations, they simply want peace of mind.

Companies like Shopify are stuck with React Native because they started quite early with it, so they want to optimize it and also keep using their Javascript devs. If Shopify was to start a new project, I can bet that they wouldn't go with React Native.

It is amazing how Facebook forced it down our throats because it somewhat had React style of writing attached to it, what is point of using a Framework that makes you cry or look incompetent every day.