₦airaland Forum

Leemekzy:
shut up. i live behind the estate. ambode was the one that completed the estate and not sanwo olu.

Don’t mind him.

He has been paid to Propagate lies here.

I have no political interest in Lagos... But it is bad politics to take other people’s glory.

Dantedasz:
Please learn to be civil.
I drove past that road where that Estate is located constant for years.
That estate had been completed.
I have no interest in Lagos politics but the truth must be told. That estate was completed ages ago. I have nothing against Sanwo Olu launching it but he should be honest. That estate was NOT completed in 100 days. It had been completed a long time ago!

God bless you.

Bulletproofgt:
Point of Correction @sanwoolu did not complete this project.I live near this area close to ogando idps and this was done by @FASHOLA AND COMPLETED BY AMBODE. SANWO OLU HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING.Dont get praised from others peoples work

God bless you

Ghostlord:
Lies ....don't believe everything you read .. this project was completed by ambode ..I live around this axis .

God bless you

plaindealer:
This is proof that Fashola completed the project in 2015.

Show us your own proof that Ambode did more than what Fashola did in the above pictures,

Show us your proof.

The estate in question is actually huge. I recall my dad telling me before it was a proposed NYSC site or something, before it was converted.

I have no doubt Fashola did the major works on this site - and very thankful too.

Buh this project was completed as far back as Ambode’s regime.

THIS GUY CALLED SANWO - is making it look like he completed what already was largely finished! He should at least have acknowledged the past two Administrations.

Validated:
I passed that estate for two years. It was already completed as fsr back as 2016. I even made enquiry on purchase but was told government was perfecting somethings. Nothing was added by SanwuOlu. Ambode was stupid if he did mot want to commission it before leaving office just because Fashola started it.

Finally, someone is saying the truth.

plaindealer:
This is the estate in 2015, practically completed by Fashola, so please tell us what Amode did in 4 years and why he still couldn't commission the estate.

Stop lying.

Actually this Project was completed by AMBODE. I know that for A Fact! Fashola did only about some sections.

Mynd44:
These estates were started by the Fashola government and Ambode abandoned them for years. There are more in Ikorodu, Sasha etc that he left to rot.


And people that don't know the dynamics of Lagos say Ambode was cheated or bullied.
He should stay where he is

That’s A HUGE LIE.

I know this Estate very well. AMBODE DID ALL THE MAJOR WORKS on this construction. It was 90% complete.

Still saw it during my visit the last time long before This Guy was voted.

He is playing dirty politics with these LIES

9jaRealist:
I have taken the liberty to repost the original post (highlighted as relevant) that we were commenting upon to spare all of us the substantively irrelevant discourse and dissertation. Of course, the police can arrest/apprehend/question anyone reasonable suspected to have commited (or to be committing) a criminal act. What they cannot do (and NO RATIONAL reading of the Police Act or the Criminal Code even remotely suggests it) is to randomly stop random persons on the street and require them to prove their sexual orientation (and let's not even get into the basic concept that the burden actually rests with state to prove a criminal offense beyond a reasonable doubt, and not vice versa).

With all due respect, there's a distinction between the possession of knowledge and the proper APPLICATION of same. The dissertation was entirely IRRELEVANT to the limited discourse at hand. Cheers.
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Brother stop all these grammar.

There is no proving anything BRD with arrest. You lots don’t know the slightest about how Law and order works, but will come here throwing tantrums when you are being educated.

When you crossdressing, Police just arrest people and that’s all. They don’t owe you any explaination. You just have to explain why they shouldn’t charge you to court for crossdressing. And as far as Nigeria is concerned, you can’t even prove sexual orientation Cos that is not recognised under Nigerian laws. You are either a male or a female - if you dress otherwise, YOU CAN GET ARRESTED AND CHARGED TO COURT.

Don’t come here to apply your ignorance.

9jaRealist:
Nope, they do NOT...

Nothing about Section 4 of the Police Act (General Duties) or Section 231 of the Criminal Code (Indecent Acts) could be conceivably read or interpreted to provide the Police with any authority of power to stop a citizen on the streets and require him to prove her/his sexuality.
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That’s fine, let me educate you.

Now these are restatements of the sections I referred:

Section 231 Criminal code
Any person who-
a. wilfully and without lawful excuse does any indecent act in any public place; or

b. wilfully does any indecent act in any place with intent to insult or offend any person;

is guilty of a misdemeanour, and is liable to imprisonment for two years.

And

Section 4 Police Act. General duties of the police
The police shall be employed for the
a. prevention and detection of crime,
b. the apprehen- sion of offenders,
c. the preservation of law and order,
d. the protection of life and property and
e. the due enforcement of all laws and regulations with which they are directly charged, and
f. shall perform such military duties within or outside Nigeria as may be required of them by, or under the authority of this or any other Act.
[1979 No. 23.]

Now, I don’t know if you are a lawyer or a law student Buh there are what we call rules to interpreting statutes. One of such is what we call Omnibus grounds and General Powers.

We call them omnibus, because almost anything can fit into it. An example of an omnibus provision is Indecent as used in 231 above, and enforcement of Law and Order as used in S. r above.

For 231 - anyone can be accosted, detained, arrested if he commits any indecent act in public, such as gayish acts or untoward dressing (crossdressing). If you don’t know, 3 cross dressers have been arrested and convicted in the court in Nigeria for Crossdressing, not too long ago, I can remember one in 2008: search the story, it’s on BBC. So yes, indecent act covers homosexuality behaviours and crossdressing.

Section 4 is the general powers of the police. The only restriction is that THEY HAVE TO BE CHARHGED by an authority, on complaint by a citizen, or with reasonable excuse- which itself is a wild card. That’s why the Police can do many things in Nigeria and get away with it. The Police has powers to arrest and detain anyone on suspicion of any unlawful act... with or without warrant, depending on the type of offence.

I have said too much already... I leave you with 218.

Section 218.
Any male person who, whether in public or private, commits any act of gross indecency with another male person, or procures another male person to commit any act of gross indecency with him, or attempts to procure the commission of any such act by any male person with himself or with another male person, whether in public or private, is guilty of a felony, and is liable to imprisonment for three years.
The offender cannot be arrested without warrant.

penplus:
Thanks so much for this
With tears in my eyes...
I say GOD bless you!

Amen, Thank you sir!

Truth be told:

Ladies have the key to Men’s hearts.

You almost will do anything for them, especially when they got you in the right corner.

praizblog:
After the interruption of police at popular cross Dresser Bobrisky Birthday party, Controversial journalist Kemi Olunloyo reacts to the incidence as shshe blast the nigerian government. She said we have lost freedom in the country, she defend bobrisky hat shes just a cross dresser.

See more below

Gist From Praizenews ; http://www.praizenews.com/kemi-olunloyo-react-to-bobrisky-arrest-says-we-lost-freedom-in-nigeria/

Lol... confused people.

She is referring to Shim as a He... I am sure when the Shim reads this, She or He will take an offence

thesicilian:
No one owes anybody any explanation of their sexuality. Otherwise the police would have the authority to stop anyone on the road and demand you to prove that you are not homosexual. Yes we know that Nigeria has anti gay laws and I fully support it, but cross-dressing is not the same as being gay, legally speaking. The police has no right, no authority to arrest or publicly embarrass any citizen simply on the suspicion of being gay.

They actually do,

Combined reading of section 4 Police Act and section 231 Criminal Code Act/Laws etc.

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popcykaylah:
Nigga should shut the ff up , fact that you had parents that put you through school and all doesn’t mean you can judge anyone .. the loud mouthed fkker even schooled abroad ,why them no send you go naija institution?.. no be the same fraudsters Dey buy table 1m and 5m for your show ? You for return the money na

Everybody just like justifying vices.

Does that make it right? You guys should get your priorities and values right - everything is not about Money.

notttty:
For God's sake are you this delluded that you can't read the caption well? That church is directly under the high tension mast, the house you want to build a point on is after the church, meters away from the mast,. Don't come here trying to be reasonably unreasonable.

I don’t throw online tantrums...
Read between the lines. If you can’t comprehend what I have written, get someone intelligent enough

emae009:
sense is really far from most Nigerians despite their social status. What connects Nigerian leaders with Bob?? Is it the Presidency or the National assembly or the Governors forum or the Judiciary that asked for the venue to be shut down. The police acted on an order from someone instead of them to find out who, they are calling Nigerian leaders. smh

She preys on social media stuffs like this so you should expect nothing less.

They blame the government for everything - when they as well contribute to all the fake lives and professional prostitution that many of our females now engage in.

Bunch of hypocrites

emae009:
sense is really far from most Nigerians despite their social status. What connects Nigerian leaders with Bob?? Is it the Presidency or the National assembly or the Governors forum or the Judiciary that asked for the venue to be shut down. The police acted on an order from someone instead of them to find out who, they are calling Nigerian leaders. smh

She is

mrgoodd:
Sorry for your loss, You made a way for yourself, Unfortunately you re in a country with the most highest number of hypocrites, He's not caught sleeping with his fellow guy yet People won't let him be, How is some else life affecting some people for God sake, A cross dresser will dress like a woman that's for sure, Prisoners re fed with tax payers money, If BOB is jailed today, He will indirectly eat from the so called hypocrites money whereas No hypocrite of a tax payer will eat his money in return, Why can't you use your brain and Make a deep calculation for God sake.

I like forums like this - it allows people like yourself to state your views and be educated.

1st - “you made a way for yourself” “Nigeria has the highest number of hypocrites” “he has not slept with any guy yet” “how is his life affecting other people’s lives for God’s sake” and bla bla about tax payers money analogy I do not understand and you ended with God’s sake.

So a simple question for you -
In all honesty, would you pray and allow your child to be all what Brobrisky is? Do you wish that for your child?

My views:

This is Africa, precisely Nigeria. There are what we call Social Vices, and crossdressing, rudeness, public display of gayish acts, disregard for authorities etc. Are replete of what Nigeria’s native law and customs generally eschews. They may not be legally wrong, yet, but they are socially wrong. And because He makes money from it does not make it right. You cannot legitimise a social vice just because it enriches.

Secondly, yes it affects others. You can see that from his many followers like yourself, who, 29 years ago, would have called for his head on a plate. More importantly, our kids on instagram.

And lastly, please don’t use God’s name and brobrisky in the same sentence; except you are praying for him.

Is it just me? There are also Houses (place of residence) where people, including children, live, and sleep, every day!

Is that not more dangerous? It is less likely that people will be in church when any Hazard occurs than for people not to be at home in any or al of those houses to the right and left of the Church.

Bottom line, this shouldnt be about the church! Ifs about all the building currently situate under a high tension!

WriterX:
it might be hard even with evidence , once acquited Bern indicted for that same crime a second time is extremely hard and rare in the US the second trial demands evidences beyond any sort of reasonable doubt in the court of law before they can agree to a second trail and if deemed might go with a jury to decide the verdict .

in other words it is very difficult to get a retrial

From the story - he was not tried at all!

He was only placed on remand pending the advice of the DPP. So nothing like retrial here... if the police were to get enough evidence - he will be formally charged to court. He was released because the police could not make up a case to warrant prosecution.

In any case, I doubt there can be any evidence l. In the West, an autopsy will be conducted to find if there are semens in her body and whose semens. But I doubt wehave the kind of technology to detect such... and even if we do, there is no database for the citizens so nothing to crosschefk the semens with. No CCTV, and I am not sure they saw the murder weapon; even if they do, no database to crosscheck the finger prints with.

Nigeria is messed up. There’s no justice anywhere

kizzieJR:
I know the boy though and according to the story he told me, no case to answer truly because there was no concrete evidence he killed the girl
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From the story he told you, did he had sex with the lady?

And did he see her on the day she died?

PlayerMeji:
Who would believe that Umar Abmutalab is serving his 10th year in prison in the US already.

Remember him? The underwear bomber who almost blew a US plane in 2009.

Yeah, he is serving 4 lifetime sentences and he is already on his 10th year.

Alas, that's not the case for Nigeria. Remember Evans, the billionaire kidnapper, his case is over 2 years old and the court are yet to decide whether to make a decision or not.

That's the difference between the Western world and the third world country.. Quick dispensation of Justice. It would deter almost anyone who stand to gain anything in corruption but here that is only applicable to the poor...

I absolutely agree with you - but the problem is usually not with the Court.

The courts do not prosecute cases. Police or the Ministry of Justice do.... and when the Ministry of Justice prosecute cases - it’s usually based on the evidence and investigations of the Police. In essence, the Police’s shuddy investigation causes most of the delay in bringing accused persons to book.

For instance - in the present case - the suspect was released based on a No case to answer. The meaning of No case to answer is that a prima facie case has not been made to warrant prosecuting him for the alleged offence. Put simply - No sufficient evidence at all.

So if you want to see criminals brought to book - train the IPOs to do their job effectively. Sadly, there is no technology in the Police force to aid their investigations.

ValCon888:
This is how to sentence a fraudster.

The Nigerian Criminal Justice System needs to take a page from the American System.

30 years in jail serves as an adequate deterrent for potential fraudsters. But in Nigeria, yahoo boys will commit fraud and be given a mere 6 months imprisonment. Just in time to come out and continue from where they stopped.

The EFCC Act, Criminal Code, Penal Code, and all other necessary legislation needs to be overhauled to combat this cankerworm that has eaten deep into the moral fabric of this country.

The Advance Fee Fraud and other Fraud Related Offences Act takes care of these - and the punishment, I can tell you is not less than 5 years and Max of 20 years/15 depending on the type of offence. But prosecutors may not charge under this law - they would rather go with 419 in the Criminal Code which is only 3 years - just for kickbacks from these guys.

Truth is, the law isnt so much the problem. It’s the persons who are meant to enforce it. Every day EFCC and SARS arrest all these people - but you rarely hear of a conviction. Nigerians are the problem of Nigeria.

Oduduwa707:
I wonder if they're also going to conduct the burial rites for the innocent dead folks.

BTW.. with all these Dangote trucks getting into various accidents every now and then... what's the gov't doing abt it? Are they making him liable and punishing him as needed OR ?

That’s where the problem is - payment of medical bills is not enough. In saner climes - the Ministry of Justice of the state is meant to bring an action against Dangote for causing loss of lives and properties. But they can’t, because this is Nigeria.

The victims as well don’t know they can bring a class action against Dangote - for which they can get as much as $5b in damages and compensation.

But they won’t, Cos they either do not know or someone is telling them they can’t win.

In any case it’s all messed up. Johnson & Johnson, a pharmaceutical company was just fined half a billion dollars for ADVERTS of their drugs alone! Can you imagine - just adverts. Here in Nigeria, Dangote drugs have been causing needless deaths for ages, but no one is doing anything about it. Smh.

philip0906:
Too much of liberty is been abused...Almost all social media apps have the block button. I have blocked a number of people too and you will be shocked the dimwit, has peeps on his block list

That it is a social media platform for the dissemination of news, did not take away the block button. The block button is available to every user (Public or Private) on twitter. He could as well sue Twitter for making the button available in the first place.

Too much freedom, begets a corresponding degree of insanity...That is what is happening in the west.

FIRST, This has little to do with freedom. Citizens should be able to bring their leaders to account for their actions or inactions. I think the Nigerian system of governance has shrouded your perspective about true governance and accountability.

SECOND, if you read the story very well - there seem to be a reasonable cause of action. You are a private person - so you have absolute control over who you block or not. Museveni and the other officials are Public figures... and they have a responsibility towards their citizens; so they cannot block people the same way you can - especially if it’s a public account. He might not win, Buh Yh it’s worth the try

In any case, That may not be possible in Nigeria, because executives have immunity from civil and criminal actions emanating from what they do or do not do, while in office; S. 308 CFRN.

Is it crash or scratch?

Or don’t I understand English anymore

rozayx5:
Spirits that make "SOME" Nigerian youths

Not Nigerian youths, stop generalising.
Some of us spent our teenage years in the sun and rain so that we could live well starting from our twenties.

All these mumu articles self, go and improve the economy so that youths can have better opportunities. Nigeria is not the capital of fraud.

Countries with the biggest hackers and fraudsters don't make noise about it.
Did you hear about the 3billion dollar scam in China? By 6 Chinese? Recently.
Their government works quietly. Here we allow the west to play saint and demonize a whole country cause of some few scumbags. And our efcc wants to be part of ThE trend by releasing statements that they are also working when we know. They ain't doing shlt

Is it not this same country that fellow Nigerians including police see young successful people as fraudsters

The problems are starker than you have painted it. There are obviously legit hustling teenagers, but you need to go on fb to know how bad things have become. Almost all the kids I know growing up in my locality have turned out worse off - openly displaying cultism and yahoo lifestyle. You can almost tell that things have really gone from bad to worse - even for those in the Higher institutions: most folks now resort to internet fraud, wire, online dating scams, cultism etc.

Bariga Surulere Shomolu Fadeyi Mushin Abesan Estate etc. Just name the place in Lagos. Same in the East - mostly drug lords and all manner of Vices.

The earlier we acknowledge there is a problem the earlier we can begin to find solutions to it.

Sadly the only feasible solution is good leadership: and people trade good leaders for tribal preferences.

unitysheart:
How you want do the subway when dem don build house everywhere?

Smiles, subways are usually way below in the ground; houses or not.

The real problem is the lack of political will. The light rail system (blue and red line) are yet to be completed; after so many years of the commencement of the construction.

More serious is the fact Nigeria is still dependent on the train tracks built by the British roughly 60 years ago - and we are still using the old locomotive trains, in this 21s t century.

I think we should be more concerned with that. Nigeria is messed up and we keep voting in crap leaders. God help that country.

temmypotter:
It might seem as though there's no respite for the man who takes a corporate career path, garners degrees, certifications, MBAs and what not, in a world where Musicians and Sportsmen make in one performance what the white collar worker makes an entire year

But fear not, trust the process! Trust your growth, You will not only gather wealth, you will build it and you will continue to climb.

Dangote is not an artist, neither is Elumelu a footballer

I like your reasoning, and I wish many young guys can think this way. For me, it’s not so much about the Big cars and Public display of wealth. Not everyone would be able to buy a Bentley Bentayanga or own large corporations like Dangote and Elumelu... there are very many persons making a decent living and building a good life for their generations doing legit corporate works. I hope people can learn to be contented with What God has blessed them with.

pan3:
nice one

We have for sale: 5 Acres of Land besides Dangote Refinery
Title: C of O
Price N6m per Plot.

A CofO is not title to land - See Osho v Foreign Finance; Adedeji v NBN; Savannah Bank v Ajilo.

Except:
1. Where it is a State Grant
2. It’s coupled with a title document.

So for your sake and those who would be buying -

It’s better to advertise as CofO with Title docs... or CofO as a Statutory grant.

Gracias.