tpia@

the fulani worked in collaboration with indigenes from the areas they conquered.

@^^ Did you not read the clear question posed by Malawian? My mentioning the Fulani is clear enough in my post. They are not related to Bornu state nor the proud and self assertive Kanuri who I 'suspect' are the source of the strength of the BH and Ansaru reputed to originate from Bornu state. Yes, we know that there are some collaborators/hospitable indigenes in the run up to the fulani conquest of the Hausa.

tpia@

you're confusing europeans with africans.

are ethiopians crusaders? Are they not christians?

@^^ Where is the confusion ? Are the later day European 'middle ages' crusaders not against the muslims(Middle East) and later Africa exempt? Yeah, we all know the History of Ethiopia and Christianity but does that negate my opinion about the clear "Prejudice" against the Hausa/Muslims by naijaking1. Did you not read/see his post?

CAMEROONPRIDE

How come Fulani, control all your states? are Hausa not interested in politic? Do you guys fear fulani?

Also why is that the fulani ,despite controlling and influencing others ethnicities politically and culturally esp up north don't impose their language? (This is my observation, maybe I'm wrong)

Also what is the widely spoken language in the North? Fufulde or Hausa?

Bro, African conquerors/colonisers were benevolent and were not interested in imposing their language on 'others' otherwise the Southwest that was part of Benin empire would be speaking Bini/Edo language hence "Benevolence" is in order/culture.
Hausa is the predominant language spoken in the North other than in Bornu state.

Malawian

where is boko haram and ansaru in all of these? a honest question please.

Boko Haram and Ansaru are probably Kanuri populated and from Bornu state/Chad/Cameroon. They are not Hausa. Hausas are inherently Peaceful, farmers and tradesmen/women hence they were easily defeated by the Fulani.

naijaking1

Of all the Hausa people I have met around the World, Nigerian Hausas seem to have the worst mind set when it comes to religion, living peacefully, and even taking pride in being Africans first and muslims/christians second.
What happened?

What exactly do you mean by "the worst mind set"? Islam does not really recognise boundaries/modern nation statehood. You are muslim first before being a so called Nigerian or African as you put it. How can you begrudge anybody for believing/ having a faith which you clearly do not understand. If I may ask, Is Christianity your original faith/ belief system? Are so called Christians not the marauding Crusaders of ancient times? Are they not our conquerors as Slavers and Colonisers that you fervently embrace their faith and bad habit of Prejudice et al. Bro, go easy with your prejudice.

PAGAN 9JA

our future Olympics Boxing Team!

Bro I think boxing is "soft" compared to Dambe .

Fulaman198

WOW, even I didn't know that. I used to think the Touareg made their own indigo dyed clothing. Did not know that the Hausa were responsible, Shame on me!

Hi Bro The Touareg are not known for hard work nor intensively cultivated craftsmanship. They are nomads by tradition/culture and rarely involved in any other trade besides trading and marauding robbers in the Sahara . The settled ones in Mali are no different from their ancient habits/ways. It is partly the source of the national/ethnic problem of Mali, Algeria, Niger and Mauritania.

Kilode?

To paraphrase Saint Augustine of Hippo: There is nothing more dangerous than people with Half-Education or Half-Knowledge, especially when they are unaware of their limitations.

@ Gbam+10000! Bro your wisdom is very profound and refreshing indeed . How I wish we'll have serious thinkers instead of mere 'Certificated /miseducated Buffoons. It's a tragedy. Your view point, Gbawe's and that of Katsumoto are infallible and on point. I hope we understand that true Education is wholistically different from mere 'Certificated trained' persons which is pervasive amongst Nigerians/Africa in every so called line of 'education'/training.

PhysicsQED

@OP Sincerely, it is an interesting read but not exactly profound. Any African from the continent who has the good fortune of travelling around the Americas(north/South) and encountering our Cousins in Diaspora, must have asked/dialogued with them as to come away with similar world views as Pius has about the 'African tragedy' which he elegantly couched metaphorically as 'Love affair' and 'Dowry' between the warped arrogant powerful and the weak.
Many Africans have alluded to similar observations before even on NL and I guess Chimamanda in her latest book gives her version of similar observations in the USA/Diaspora in the dangers of single stories and confusions about self affirmation/definition/identity in encounters with the 'West' hence I may say his lecture is not profound/original but for the title.
As for the name Nkunzimana it is a name peculiar to Burundi & Rwanda very similar; East DRC and some parts of Uganda. as they share almost similar ethic groups and 'problems' - Tutsi.
I appreciate the write up as away of spreading informed diverse education amongst our very uninformed citizenry as History as we know it is Dead in the Nigerian/African Academia(Schools).

Negro_ Ntns

I disagree. Poor judgement and lack of vision is the root of our endemic poor leadership, not poor education. Nigerian leaders received far better education than the leaders in say, Tanzania or Zambia or Niger. Thos three countries perform far better for their people and their countries.

@^^ Gbam+100. Such belief/penchant for so called "certificated educated" leadership is the bane of our quasi "elites" and the rest of NIgerians. Nigerians are addicted to belief in Certificates [/b]in anything. A good leader is as good as his advisers/cabinet- like you mentioned already, [b]Vision is the crux of the matter and of course the lack of emotional [/b]attachment for the so called Country hence we are not a Nation yet. Nigerian leadership/elites are inherently [b]unpatriotic by their active or 'unintentional' actions besides their hollow rhetorics of loving the country and ever ready to die for it. They have good reason to love and ready to die for her. Nigeria is the proverbial golden goose that lays the golden egg(loot)

pazienza

Mr,wake up, this is the year of our lord 2013 AD,this is not 1966. Things have changed since then,you would be suprised by just how much they have.

@^^ Bros I hope you can see the bigger/clearer picture of my concern about Ndi-Igbo now that people of Kogi state are currently invading/killing people in Agulueri and other parts(war) and no response verbal or otherwise from so called leadership of Ndi-Igbo. This proves to me and those who know better about the nature of Nigerians that there is no love/respect for each other whatsoever. Please don't forget that it is the same Kogi that was offering a greek gift of lands to Ndi-Igbo refugees from BH attacks/tacit expulsions from the North sometime ago. I have since been vindicated . Nigeria is more than what meets the eye or what our so called cynical politicians exhort us to believe .

cap28

In progressive societies privatisation is minimised and there is more emphasis on govt improving the services that it already provides this is what happened in Venezuela under Chavez and the results were positive. Under Chavez administration literacy increased and poverty decreased within a very short space of time, this what we need in nigeria someone like Chavez who will work in the interests of the masses of nigeria to rebuild the nation and lift millions of people out of ignorance and poverty.

@^^ +1000-also did you intentionally omit the previous Brazilian President Lula who changed the lives of the massive poor Brazilians especially the poor African Brazilians. Bros perhaps you are a little hopeful that Nigerians are politically aware but you'll be shocked to know that the so called "certificated/educated" are actually the source of the Nigerian problem . I am not optimistic at all. Nigerians are indeed everywhere in the world but lack the ability to be discerning to see/learn or imbibe simple things around even political values from good leaders like you mentioned, Nigeria have failed and shamed the African race irretrievably. The country presently is not fit for purpose under the present/past leadership either. Even in so called developed West they guard/protect their strategic assets/industries. After all what was the bail out of the banks and motor industry in Obama's USA about if not protectionism ? French colonial actions in Africa and of course British covert/overt interventions everywhere in so called Anglophone countries. Longest time no see? Did you take a break from NL like I do nowadays?

tpia@

lord have mercy.

sept 11 all over again,

@^^ How do you know that ?

Do you not think that if a nation voluntarily behave like a bully and launch attacks on other nations over10,000 miles away from your borders, based on some spurious reasons, you too deserve to feel some heat too?. I am surprised that the victims are not reacting/acting purposefully to retaliate. Wars don't just end because you say so. Every American is a legitimate target whether they like it or not. Besides we should not rush to believe "falsehoods"/propaganda that it is some "foreign" terrorists. Mcveigh was a true blue eyed "WASP" home grown American .

Katsumoto[quote][/quote]Abeg go and have your snuff.


@^^ fell on the floor/off my chair laughing NL will not kill me ooo . The humour on NL is amazing .

Kandiikane

Are you married? Were you a v!rgin? How many totos did u chop before marriage? If you are single, are you a virgin?

@^^ Haba! Kandiikane Your language is too colourful for a Saro babe .

pazienza

Can you explain what you mean by saying that young igbos who didn't witness the war,don't understand the concept of biafra. I am all ears.

We(young igbos) didn't witness the war,but we can see the effect of that war all around us. We still have pictures of young uncles who died during the war and pics of elder siblings who died of malnutrition, all hung on our walls,and we have parents who still suffer from post traumatic effects of that war. We still have elderly relatives with one deformity or the other,incurred during the war.

We have other nigerians who keep reminding us of our defeat and still call us biafrans.

So,i am all ears.

@^^ Bros, it's not every topic that one must reply to in detail if you understand my drift. Yes there are a lot of Ndi-Igbo young men/women who may have/not witnessed the war but sincerely their mentality/abject ignorance based on very rudimentary knowledge of self(culture)/society make it absolutely difficult for some to assimilate some good historical/essence of the war. Many come to NL half baked/uninformed to say things that are almost infantile and self deprecating without thinking before opening/typing. Those are the characters I am referring to. These days perhaps with the good reign of Onlytruth some of them have been cautioned/reined in to cut down on some of their ill informed loquaciousness. Yes every Igbo person have lost a lot during the valiant War but the essence/lessons about it seem to be lost to a lot of the youth let alone the rest of sleepy Nigerians who have little or no grasp of national history hence they'll remind 'you' of the so called "defeat"/war. Sincerely, that's not enough excuse to be haughty, ill informed and engage in banal to and fro arguments with historical 'illiterates' lacking in empathy but full of Hate, Jealousies, Envy and Covetousness. In the light of such awareness is it not wise for the youth to tread carefully but very alert/aware of the dangers around, instead of bumbling around foolishly?.
Name calling is natural. It is what ignorant people do because they have nothing else to say based on their ignorance and inherent inadequacies. It's akin to a lazy white working class person calling a well suited city black gentleman/lady names . It is no big deal at all. That's what lazy ignorant kids do on the play ground especially on NL. Bro please relax it's not that serious. Keep your thoughts to yourself . It is not everything that one should be discussing on a public forum. Every valiant Biafran or not has been scarred by the experience of war directly/indirectly so it is nobody's fault. That's the natural effect of war but the lessons/essence of it is what should be most important to the rest of the survivors . The rest of Nigeria sincerely is unimportant in the self preservation of Ndi-Igbo.

aribisalaO

We seem to have many Biafra diehards here. Why are they so bitter

@^^Bros, Most of the so called 'diehards' on NL are not really 'bitter' as you put it but if any Igbo person is "bitter" about Nigeria, it is not misplaced either. For example if you have been a "victim" of war that claims to "keep Nigeria ONE is a task that must be done" or the banal "No victor no vanquished" slogans, without commensurate positive "Actions", it'll generally generate deep resentments etc. I'll rather that so called Nigerians demonstrate some sense of empathy by everyone concerned about the future of Nigeria in the true sense of the word, not wishy washy burying our heads in the sand/wishing that we do not confront our demons/talk about our collective past/recent history. What's the point wanting to be Nigerian from every part of the country if we cannot have a civil conversation no matter how unsavoury it is?. Also, perhaps if you witnessed about nine or more male members of your direct family being murdered in your presence(genocide) by so called fellow country men in cold blood you'll definitely out of humane empathy appreciate the source of the "anger" and "desperation" to disassociate with anything Nigerian.I'll say that Ndi-Igbo are remarkably resilient and forgiving but then that is an African attribute not exactly unique either. [b]Empathy [/b]and a little 'Contrition' on the part of the "actors" who actively participated in the bad/wicked decisions/actions in our collective history is all that's needed not exactly reparations. Many of them are still alive and some with oil blocks as old soldiers . Please don't believe the hype of internet "Biafrans" . Most of them did not witness let alone understand the concept of Biafra e.g. the famous definitive "Ahiara Declaration".

mickyarams

silly greedy idiots destroying our country's name everywhere.

@^^ Please wake up from your self inflicted ignorance Are they worse than our politicians/looters? Is it that you do not think that our politicians actually have done/inflicted far more damage to every so called Nigerian at home/abroad? Our so called national image have suffered immeasurably like wise . Do you think Ibori and Alams are good image builders for Naija? Bros pls think! Young men committing fraud in faraway lands are actually far more patriotic than our looters who destroy, mortgage and export our collective patrimony abroad. I do not condone the actions of the fraudsters either but they have done nothing extraordinary. The Asians and white Americans are experts on the "game". Our people are just mere pawns and lacking in modesty and panache/finesse

@Op

Only an incorrigible anti democrat will make such a statement yet he claims to be a democrat and a believer of One Nigeria . It is obvious he comes from the school of thought- that thinks that Nigerians should be Grateful whenever he renders a service/does his job in whatever capacity as an employee of voters/Nigerians. Only a dictator or someone who lacks basic understanding of his Responsibility to voters and citizens, would think in those lines. Anyway, he's an ex military man hence his almost instinctive reflex is that of a mindless/thoughtless zombie. Old habits die hard hence his loyalty to Obj is understandable. That's how old soldiers survive.

adaobi123

how i love p square.......one them should come and marry me na

@^^ You obviously don't mind being a second wife/lover. The choice is yours .

Gbawe

Ali would acknowledge this if he is not an example of the malevolent throwback Dinosaurs we need to get rid of. The Yorubas would have to be aberrant to be grateful to a man like OBJ. In fact, if most Nigerians were not supinely docile , apathetic and politically unsophisticated, then the likes of Ali et al would not be able to be uttering this revisionist garbage. But hey, we can only look at the endorsement Ali gets here to know what Nigeria is and why the Alis of the world will continue to insult and patronise us till they are in their grave.

@^^Gbam +1000 . Nigerians are probably the only nationals especially the so called youth and perhaps the looters above that love to be Patronised. It is truly disheartening and sad indeed.
As an aside, is there no Law against maligning a people based on Ethnicity/Tribe et al in Nigeria? I thought making inflammatory statements like the old man and so called Leader of PDP has made can be deemed "inciting" a people to cause a public disorder etc? I suppose we deserve the kind of leadership we desire/have- Mediocrity, indolence, wicked/mindlessness, lazy and infinitely corrupt.

Kcjazz

^^^And Keshi is a better coach? He has no ego and he is called "The Boss"? Glad, Siasia did this. You do agree he was in Nantes and he won a medal by meeting at least the minimum number of games, spectators don't receive medals.

African players do not go far because of indiscipline and a lack of professionalism, they have the talent, but that is not enough in this business.

You are definitely correct Bro . Only in Nigeria you have ex-players and current so called professional players commenting openly about the team and manager of a club or national team negatively or otherwise. They publicly criticise and even suggest players for the national team etc. They'll never dare open their mouth in Europe let alone criticise/suggest anything to their club manager/coach. In Nigeria every person is an expert/pundit and seem to have a "right" to comment/select a team over the appointed Coach/Manager . They seem to not let the Coach be or make an independent decision until Keshi pulled the carpet from under their limp feet .

WisdomLovesGod

I doubt..I know he is from Delta. Pehaps Isoko.Let me ask my ''Oga at d top first''

He's from Delta State and he is Ika Igbo hence his name is Sunday Ugochukwu Oliseh. It is truly shocking how Tribe/Ethnic sentiments energise NIgerians even in Sport that is relatively "objective" .

baby-boy

Lets drop down to Nollywood level, how many Hausa Actors and Actresses appears in Nollywood movies? ANSWER 0.5% and we have the nerve to point fingers, How Many white people does Tyler Perry uses in all his movies? go and read what some AA actors think about his movies look for Idris Elba think about his movies.... Tyler would rather use a poor black actress than a good white one now his films are becoming a joke!

The Wayan Movies shoot their movies using who is available whether white or Black according to the script, A lot of Black Producers and directors are springing up in America so black people have no excuses, but it

You have shown by your comments that you are blind by your prejudice towards White People!

@^^ Bros easy on your "PC"/pseudo-values . Movies are made especially in our domain because of the laws of Demand & Supply(Eye balls) or market(Returns on Investment) so your mentioning the paucity of Hausa Actors etc is not plausible if you really understand the industry you are discussing.

Since when does being able to Define your values/being well "Seated" in yourself, mean the total "exclusion"/appreciation of the other let alone having uncritical acceptance of alien quasi-aesthetic being ok because perhaps you are afraid of being foolishly labled *"Prejudice" towards "White People" ?.
Bros relax, Oyinbo people do not think about black people 24/7 at all. They do not have to let alone loose sleep over whatever black people think of them. It is about Power relations . So why bother to force yourself to swallow an alien "aesthetic" that is totally foreign to your value system excepting if you have been adopted/brainwashed in a "white" home . I'll like to believe otherwise . It is not about love nor hate. It is about self definition and affirmation at all times.

rolishair

u guys are so fuuny, u dont have to mock anybody cos they ask for your help...travelling to europe and senegal is quit different, how sure are u he dont have the money and do u know maybe his going there to write a scholarship exam...pls lets not mock eachother in any forum ...need to go to senegal as well to buy senegalese have always been going to togo just searching for a way to make it there on road before i sturmble into u guys forum...me wanting to go by road is to cut cost have never been there and has a business minded person dont want to waste my resource on trial and error venture

@^^ Bro what do you mean by the bolded above^> "to buy Senegalese"?

@birdman

Please read the latest story/experience of the forwarding/shipping Agent for the Dangote export of Cement to Ghana at the Nigerian border with Benin RP(Seme). He was almost frustrated from carrying out his legitimate business by almost 26 various so called Government Agencies all making foolish and very Greedy demands/bribes before he can facilitate the smooth export of the cement for Dangote. Our so called government agencies are the bane of Nigeria. They actually frustrate and sabotage economic progress and enterprise of fellow citizens instead of facilitating smooth trade with our neighbours. It is no wonder that Nigerians are perceived as Stragglers and Cheats everywhere by our neighbours given their unsavoury experience of our so called government officials at our borders/ports of entry/departure. It is truly shocking and disheartening indeed . If Naija is to assert herself economically across Africa, the Government must clean /reorientate our so called government Agencies across Nigeria or else we'll continue chasing shadows and singing/believing our own hype .

@OP---- I've said it severally that RSA is a SICK society but somehow a lot of South Africans and some foreigners misguidedly assume/think I am being anti-RSA. I am definitely not but feel utmost compassion for them as a " damaged" people who are yet to recover from the vagaries/institution of Apartheid(absolute Violence)/Slavery. Conservatively, it will take RSA another 150 years to recover from the damage/psychic dislocation Apartheid inflicted on the country. Take a cursory look at Africans in "Diaspora"- North & South America, to appreciate the import of the damage Slavery/Apartheid on them African or "White" tribe, never mind that some South Africans can still speak their mother tongue(language). Buoyant economy or not it is a very Sick Society.

@OP

Nigerians should learn to read and comprehend properly before commenting/assumptions .

Besides, Nigerians never needed entry visa to the UK until the late '80s when the rules/regime changed because Nigeria demanded entry visa for the British and Germans visiting Naija before they retaliated. Nevertheless, Nigerians are not stupid to know that the economic scene have since changed for the worse and are unlikely to want to venture out foolishly. Strict visa regimes induce all manner of malpractices and visa delinquency pervasive amongst Nigerians unlike other Africans despite Naija internal economic advantages over the rest.

Ajanlekoko

Agree on the Bennenois, I have one as my mechanic, and he is totally on point

@^^ Thanks Bro . most of our Badagry/Seme based Customs&Excise officers service their cars/vehicles across the border because of their professionalism/workmanship.
Our educational system/"planners" are excessively addicted/tuned into "academics" instead of the practical artisanal training that actually build nations. If you happen to visit Porto Novo please check out "Centre Songhai" and compare it to our Naija similar projects. Funny enough, the project was set up /run by a Nigerian Reverend Father- a loss/Brain drain . It is an inspirational place for anyone thinking of setting up a viable farming business etc. It is also on You Tube under Science & Technology.

naijababe

Let me know when you find him o. I looked him up on fb but could not find him.

@^^ Sorry use his first name Djosse leobard Houenou and when you view his profile, click on the building/house to see pictures of some of his works.

Ajanlekoko

But the redbricks are only bought through one company, and are more expensive than concrete?
I think it's just a lack of know-how. Most of the building market is controlled by local artisans.

@^^ Bro, For good quality general artisanal/workmanship, you'll do well to visit Benin R.P.(Porto Novo) and Cotonou. I can recommend an experienced qualified architect/professional builder with good workmen very versed in the art of building with bricks etc. Sincerely our neighbours seem to be more disciplined and better (Artisans)professionalism and at times cheaper too. You may contact-leobardhoenou@yahoo.fr tel: +229943449(mbl.) or +229224376(office). he is from Porto Novo so he speaks Yoruba, English and French of course . You don't have to commit yourself to anything but get some good informed advice from an expert. I have actually seen some of his works and he's been featured on French television(TV5). I think he has a web site/facebook too. The more info you can get the better your informed choice. Goodluck

playboy19

As much as i do not adore his klepto practices, yet i wonder why he couldn't just go underground never to be heard of again. Well since he couldn't lay-low on his own (knowing-fully well that he is on the most wanted list) the FBI will be helping him out on that. He'll be laying low in jail for a very very long time.

@^^Bro, old habits die hard . A thief is usually "too clever by half" and they play "smart and not being clever" hence they are always caught in the long run . They always give "themself" away. It is akin to being "suicidal" by their actions/life style. Take a cursory look at the life style of our so called politicians/lootocrats you'll get a clearer picture of how "thieves" behave. They usually lack modesty.