WINDSOW:
Thank God all you said was probability. U are doubting info from the horse's mouth. Stop being a Thomas!

And stop being primitive. Provide evidence of the cat before it turned to human or please don't quote me with your uncivilized belief

What's all these nonsense?

At this time and age, see what my people still believe in. This is 2017 where over 70% of Nigerian population has phone that has camera. They know how to use the camera for instagram, Snapchat and Facebook, but you will never see the video of the Cat or Bird before it turned to human. If you can't get the video, at least take the picture. If you can provide a video evidence of an animal in the act of turning into human being then you have open up a new field of science. We should stop all these useless conspiracy and uncivilized belief we Nigerians are too intelligent for this primitive thinking.

For those that will like to know my explanation for the event. I think the woman is probably an elderly woman abandon by family and rejected by society, she was probably depressed and mentally unstable. Since she was brought up in society where committing suicide is a big sin, she couldn't end her life when she still has mental capacity over her life. Now that her situation has degraded beyond a point where she has mental cognizance of herself, and still no family or government to help. She might have been crawling on her four limbs believing she is a cat (you believe anything when you are mentally deranged). Dressed in black, a young boy seeing the poor famished lady crawling might have thought he has seen a cat and stoned her in the forehead. With the impact of the stone on her forehead, she cried out of agony and the boy thinks he stoned a cat and turned to old woman

Mr President, don't you think the relationship you are talking about in terms of Nigerians going to Saudi for pilgrimage and Nigerians schooling in Saudi Universities is one sided?

What is Nigeria benefitting from Saudi Arabia?

#notoparasiticrelationship

neoOduduwa:
As jobless as the mumu MOD that moved this crap to FP.

Me, I have given up on those Mods a very long time ago. There are hundreds of sensible threads created daily but the useless ones always make it to frontpage every time.

It is no longer about her husband this, her husband that again. Now she is asking if she has changed, doesn't she has a mirror at home? How jobless do these celebrities think Nigerians are?

Una go still get to Galaxy S100 while Apple will get to Iphone 100 one day. Yeye dey smell

They have started booking space

SalamRushdie:


What is shameful about his classmates visiting him

Don't worry, you won't understand

Don't we have any shame again in this country?
I mean one single shame.

The "I blame Buhari squad" running to the thread to drop comments

Ok

Rapsowdee01:
With people like this in government,


*singing in Fela's voice*

I sorry sorry o
I sorry for Nigeria

The song is actually by Femi

Nice try though

It is only in naija and maybe some other African countries someone like Dino will become a senator.

Peace peace peace is all what we need

Lobatan

3 in 1......this will make frontpage 3 times

Lalasticlala right now

I won't blame you for taking an oath. People do whatever that will make them faithful in their relationship. Having said that, I think you are displaying some weakness as a man. The fact that your deleted her number and block her on social media is a bit childish especially for someone you sworn an oath with. As for your gf, I think she is one of those "it is all about me" girl, it is either she change for good or lose someone as nice as you. Serious relationship and marriage definitely is not "it's all about me" thing. I can bet that with that her attitude, you guys won't last up to a year if you get married if she doesn't change. Now as a guy, what I will advise you to do is to unblock her, then assist her with what is not going to affect your plan. It could be 1/8, 1/4 or even 1/16 of what she asked for, so far it is not going to affect you. Then if you guys are still together after the issue of accommodation has been cleared, you need to sit her down and talk some senses to her that relationship is all about sacrifices. If by that time she insist "it is all about her", guy leave her and move on. God will understand.

Strong African woman

I respect black women a lot. Despite many things working against them especially traditions and culture, they still excel in many facets of life

IemFava:
per annum or monthly?

shumuel:


Per Month or annually ?

I swear if IGP is collecting this amount, corruption no go dey

How can it be per month? Are they CEO of a big company? It is annual salary of course

Jagaban

AKANDAK:

Please where can I get this PDF

http://www.frobenius-institut.de/sammlungen-und-archive/ethnographisches-bildarchiv/42-das-institut/119-nigeria-100-years-ago

Click on the Yorubaland link at the middle of the page

Congrats to these beautiful ladies

vizkiz:
I am going to deactivate my account if this makes Frontpage. Bet it with me



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It is now clear lalasticlala wants me to deactivate my account. Someone cannot play with you again?

Nairalanders should decide. Click like if you like me and want me to stay.

Click share if you want me to get the fück off.... If them born you well click

When you think Nairalanders got your back, but in reality give no flying fvck about your presence . The number of shares to likes is savagery, damn Nairalanders are wicked.
Fyi, I'm the 2nd person to give you like, it is not because I like you or want you to say but because having just only one like is very very ridiculous.
If I were you, I will just interchange likes for shares in my post. If Nairalanders don't like, they should come and beat me

That's gruesome

One thing many people seem to shy away from in Nigeria is that there are so many people suffering from depression. And the most disturbing part of it is that they are not getting help

Great African

zinachidi:
u and ur fellow sensible nairalanders nor dey tire to quote me? Una get time o.

Dude just shut up already! How dare you write something like that about the innocent woman. The fact that you conceive such repugnant idea in your mind shows that you're a very terrible person.

zinachidi:
shey u nor go like die y are u still alive. If na my grandma be dat, God know say i don put rat poison for her akamu since.

On behalf of all the sensible Nairalanders on this forum, I just have to this for you

jumpandpas:


Hope they didn't give him Adidas mark.

Did you see any any mark on his father's face?

shinarambo1:

check out the paragraph i marked with a line. Thanks

I am just saying that part of your post was incorrect.

If it was correct. There won't be reasons for some of the unanswered questions below.

The Ooni wears the Ade aare (Oduduwa's/Obalufon original crown on olojo day). Why is the crown not being worn by the Alaafin of Oyo?
Why did oranmiyan leave oyo and returned to Ife to fight for the throne of Oduduwa?
Are the descendants of Oranmiyan(Lajodogun and Lafogido) in Ife less worthy than his descendants in Oyo or Benin?
Why do lots of yoruba towns trace their founders to princes from Ife, and not children of a priest or babalawo?

Of course I believe Ooni wears the Ade aare, and Obalufon crown surely belongs to Ile Ife. However, at a point in history, Oyo became more militarily powerful and took the position of the most influential in the region. I believe the same happened to Benin at a late period. But this doesn't take away the fact that Ile Ife is the origin and spiritual head of all Yoruba descendants. If you look at the part of the post you marked out, you will realize it happened during the time Shango was Alaafin. We all know Shango to be highly temperamental and very powerful. So it could be possible that that story was true.

shinarambo1:

That is the fable given to us my Rev Johnson. An Oyo man. The Ooni wears the Ade are (Oduduwa's crown on olojo day). Why is the crown not being worn by the Oba of Oyo?
The Ooni is a King (Arole Oduduwa), the number one king in yorubaland at that, and not a priest or babalawo as you claimed by Rev Johnson.

Sorry, I may be getting you wrong, which crown are talking about? Because I can't see where I mentioned any crown in my post

If my post was too lengthy why didn't you delete it content therein, cut it short or highlight the part you wish to disprove instead you choose to alter my quote to mean something else, unless you change that I wouldn't take you seriously and I don't expect anyone too as well.

That said, a good test for history is that it should be able to stand alone in it narratives or account which Yoruba history clearly fails also oral history have never been as good source for history as its narrative is watered down from generations to generations or could be altered to magnify or suit the narrators intentions.

If Oyo was as great a kingdom and not a proxy administrative province how is it that they could not keep records, when Dahomey and Benin kingdoms and other great kingdoms, kept records of their history as far back as the 14th century and Oyo could not keep its own coming 200 year after instead the choose to parade a revised account of the Benin and Dahomey empire as their own history, and chose to call the to kingdoms descendants of Oduduwa and by extension Yorubas.

I can't believe I'm doing this with you all over again. But I will take the pain to educate you and your likes. Did you just say that Dahomey kept record from 14th century when Dahomey was actually founded in 1600? I'm sure every historians are laughing their butts off to that comment now. Did you just say Oyo didn't keep records of their history? Another laughable comment. Oyo records are everywhere so much so that the list of kings from Oranmiyan the first king to Ajaka the 2nd king to Shango the 3rd king up to the present Alaafin HRH Lamide Adeyemi III are well kept and well known to African historians. Oyo never revised account of Benin, Dahomey or any other tribe at that because like they always say "Ajisebi Oyo la n ri, Oyo sebi baba eni kan kan". The only affiliation Oyo has with another Kingdom is with Ile Ife because the founding father of Oyo Oranmiyan was a descendant of Oduduwa. See below the list of Alaafin of Oyo from first king to the present king
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rulers_of_the_Yoruba_state_of_Oyo

How do you explain
Oduduwa falling from the sky

People have told you that is a myth just like Greek, Roman, Vikings, Hindu etc. mythology. Guess what? it was not only Oduduwa that came from the sky according to myth the royal founder of Nri kingdom, was also sent from the sky by Chukwu. Say what? ....you don't know Eri also came from the sky

"Nri's royal founder, Eri, is said to be a 'sky being' that came down to earth and then established civilization"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Nri

How do you explain Oduduwa actually being a Benin prince

I don't need to explain Oduduwa being a Benin prince because it never exist. Benin people can believe what ever they wanna believe, but one thing they can't deny is that Oranmiyan, the descendant of Oduduwa gave Benin the name Bini which is what they are using till date. Are you surprised the first Oyo king gave Bini (Ile Ibinu) its name? Like I said before, you need a lot to learn in African history, and for you to learn, you need to free your mind from hate. Guess what? It's not only Benin that try to associate with Yoruba, hausa too does through there Banzai bakwa fabrication. I guess everyone likes to associate with success. Innit?

How do you explain the Benin kingdom being an older kingdom with records of all it kingship till date and Oyo empire having no records

Bini is not older kingdom to Oyo, and can never be because the first Oba of Bini who was Eweka I was the son of Oranmiyan. Though Benin people claim there was Igodomigodo during Ogiso era which was not powerful, but they never denied that Oranmiyan established bini kingdom, gave them the name and installed his son Eweka I as the first Oba of the kingdom

How do you explain the fact that Benin kingdom have landmark structures and artifacts that depict a kingdom even Ijebu that ran a small kingdom had land mark structures, so why does a kingdom as mighty as Oyo have non.

Though I provided you with landmark structure of Oyo in my last post, you decided to look away from it. You know what, if you want to know about the greatness of Old oyo empire, drive to Old Oyo national park north of present Oyo state and south of Kwara state. Say what? You don't know there is a national park for Old oyo empire. Fyi, the park covers a massive 2500 square kilometer. You will see magnitudes of landmark structures and artifacts. Just watch out for the wildlifes there so you don't get eaten because of your hate.

How do you explain the fact that no ancient historical palace, royal ornaments, king graves or artwork that depict a kingdom or royalty existed in Oyo as it was found in Benin, Dahomey and Nri.

With this comment, I'm quite sure you haven't heard of Oranmiyan staff (the most iconic and biggest man-made artifact made in what is now called Nigeria). Dude you need more reading I swear. The monolith was built around 1300 standing at almost 6 meters tall

http://www..com/12-interesting-things-you-never-knew-about-the-mysterious-opa-oranmiyan-oranmiyan-s-staff-in-ile-ife/

http://afrotourism.com/attraction/oranmiyan-staff/

How do you explain a recent Oyo and Yoruba kingdom claiming the title Oba a Benin word for king which Yorubas now claim to be Yoruba words, when in reality it was borrowed during the annexation by Benin

I'm sure this particular point has been covered by some topics on Nairaland. While Yoruba has meaning for Oba, Benin find it difficult to explain what the word means in their language.
Now for the purpose of enlightenment, I will educate you and your likes some Yoruba language structure. See the word "Ba" is very significant in Yoruba language, and it means reign over or oversee something. Examples include
Baale: (the "le" sound is like in let), the expansion of the word is Ba (reigns over) and Ile (the land). So the word Baale means someone that reigns over a land or someone that oversee things on a particular land or area. This title is used for leader of a small communities or villages in Yorubaland
Bale: (the "le" sound is like in lay), the expansion of the word is Ba (reigns over) and ile (the house). So the word Bale means someone that reigns over a house or someone that oversee things in a house. This title is used for husband as they are the head of a house in Yoruba tradition
Oba: the word Oba is a shorten form of eni to ba le gbogbo. Logically, it is sensible to use Oba instead of eni to ba le gbogbo. The break down of the expression eni to ba le gbogbo is eni (someone), to ba (reigns over) and le gbogbo (everything). Hence Oba (eni to ba le gbogbo) means someone that reigns over everything whether it is land, house, river or any goddamn thing.

How to you explain the fact the the words Benin, Dahomey and Oyo have to be used interchangeably in Oyo empire history when no such word is used in Benin or Dahomey history except where they give records of their exploits in yorubaland.

There is no such thing that Benin, Dahomey and Oyo was used interchangeably in Oyo history. It is something playing in your head. If you have evidence to proof it show it. Like I said earlier "Ajisebi Oyo lan ri Oyo ose bi baba enikan kan". Go ask a Yoruba person to explain it to you

How do you explain the fact that no record of Oyo warriors invading Benin or Dahomey, when they are endless records of the reverse.

Oyo does not need to invade Dahomey because Dahomey was a vassal state to Oyo empire from 1740 to 1823 that was paying tribute to Oyo. Benin empire on the hand was an empire that got started and named by the founding father of Oyo (Oranmiyan), so why would they attack it? The fact that you keep mentioning Dahomey in comparison to Oyo makes me and others that know African history giggle at your lack of African history. Dahomey was inconsequential in west africa history and have absolute no threat to Oyo until king Ghezo broke tributary status to Oyo and ended vassal state position to Oyo in mid 1800s. The only reason he broke away from Oyo was because Oyo was experience a tremendous internal political unrest that time that led to its fall. The reason for the internal political unrest is a discussion for another time. The same Dahomey you are shouting about was massacred by Egba warriors twice. You don't know? Just google Egba-Dahomey war.

The questions are endless, pointers to the fact that no empire existed in Oyo are to numerous to ignore, these are simple questions that kills any idea or narrative of any Oyo empire.

There are no questions here. All what you have said are lies and fabrications playing in your head as a result of your hate for Yoruba.

I would have help you work around the answers to come to a conclusion that shows that what you called and empire was actually a administrative province for other great kingdoms.

You can't provide anything because you have absolute no supporting document or evidence to support your lies

Personally I think the Yorubas should have projected Ijebu as that great and mighty kingdom instead of Oyo as Ijebu would have been more marketable to the world

Are you now a spokeperson for the Ijebus? I thought in your initial post that you said Ijebus are not Yoruba. How many mouths do you have? I'm sure you're marveling at how great the Ijebus are with the discovery of the Eredo earthwork. One of the biggest man made structure in the world. See the Yoruba that you know now comprised of many empires and kingdoms such as Ile Ife, Oyo, Ijaye, Ijebu, Owu, Igbomina, Ekiti, Akure, Ila Orangun, Ilesha, Iwo, Eko, Ogbomosho, Oke-ila, Ondo, Oshogbo, Ota, Owo etc. So when Yoruba tell any other tribe they are not their mate, that is a fact

Coolitempq:
Wow, this thread have achieved the aim for which it was created.

1. To prove that Ibadan is not as old as being portrayed by Yoruba revisionist.
2. To prove that Yorubas lived in farms, bushes, trees, under rocks and mud houses before the coming of the white man.
3. To prove that Yorubas never set the pace of development in Nigeria, even after having early contacts with the whites.
4. To prove that Yorubas have long been overtaken in terms of development, Education, civilization, industrialization etc.
All this aims have been achieved on this thread with even Yorubas supporting my claims and providing the needed evidence.

Wow interesting, Mods you can now move this thread to front page please.

You keep jumping from one point to another like a chicken that has its neck cut off

You challenged Yorubas to provide evidence of where we were living before white people came. I provided you with an evidence that even states that Yorubas are the most talented and intelligent of all tribes in Nigeria but just like I expected, you started rambling about something else. Before I slap you with evidences to disprove what you are using your second mouth to say, I will like to point out that I didn't know you have a 2nd moniker. You must be spending a lot of man hours masturbating and fantasizing to Yoruba rich heritage, history, culture and achievements. In honesty, tell me how many monikers you have on Nairaland.

Now to disprove your wrong assertions

1. To prove that Ibadan is not as old as being portrayed by Yoruba revisionist

No Yoruba ever told you Ibadan is very old. It is all what is playing in you head. Every Yoruba historian knows Ibadan was founded by Lagelu in early 1800s. It was used as a war camp by warriors from Old Oyo, Ife and Ijebu. Ibadan name was derived from Eba odan which means it was surrounded by hills just like Rome. By the time the white explored the Yoruba hinterland in the mid 1800s, Ibadan has transformed into a metropolis so much so that it was the most populous city in Nigeria at that time.

2. To prove that Yorubas lived in farms, bushes, trees, under rocks and mud houses before the coming of the white man

I can't help but laugh at this your ignorant comment. To answer this your lie, I will quote a statement from Leo Frobenius about Ile Ife. I'm 100% sure you don't know who Leo was. Just fyi, Leo Frobenius was an ethnologist and archaeologist and a major figure in German ethnography. After he discovered the level of civilization and development in Ile ife he couldn't believe there could be a region in sub saharan Africa with such heritage, artistry and organization that he called Ile Ife the lost Atlantis. Below is an excerpt from Leo findings

A hundred years ago when German explorer Leo Frobenius visited West Africa and came across some sculpted bronze heads and terracotta figures, he was sure he had discovered remains of the mythical lost city of Atlantis.
He refused to believe that the sophisticated and ornately carved bronze sculptures were made in Africa.
In his book, Voice of Africa, Frobenius wrote: "Before us stood a head of marvellous beauty, wonderfully cast in antique bronze, true to the life, incrusted with a patina of glorious dark green. This was, in very deed, the Olokun, Atlantic Africa's Poseidon."
"I was moved to silent melancholy at the thought that this assembly of degenerate and feeble-minded posterity should be the legitimate guardians of so much loveliness," he added.
Frobenius was referring to the people who lived in the Kingdom of Ife and whose artists, in fact, created the sculptures over the course of some four centuries. Leading art experts believe they are among the most aesthetically striking and technically sophisticated in the world.
The Ife kingdom was believed to have flourished from the 12th to the 15th centuries in the lush forests of the lower Niger in West Africa in what is today the south western region of Nigeria.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/africa/06/21/kingdom.ife.sculptures/

3. To prove that Yorubas never set the pace of development in Nigeria, even after having early contacts with the whites.

This is just another expression of bile and hatred from you. You said Yorubas never set the pace of development in Nigeria but you couldn't provide an evidence to show the other tribe that did. Just to let you know, when it comes to setting pace for almost all fields and facet of life, Yoruba set the pace, still setting the pace and continue setting the pace. Is it in Medical field, Literature, Music, Architecture, Engineering, Education, philosophy, Religion etc. Just name the field and see a Yoruba man or woman being the first person or one of the first set of people to have achieved the milestone

4. To prove that Yorubas have long been overtaken in terms of development, Education, civilization, industrialization etc.

Just another bile filled comment from an hater. At this point, I'm not even surprised at all. You say Yoruba has been overtaken in terms of development, education and civilization. Please show everyone with evidence that there is a tribe that is doing better than Yoruba to back up your wrong assertion. See the mistake most of you Yoruba haters do is that you see Agberos and Omo onile and assume that Yoruba youth are not different from others, but the fact remains that for every Agbero you see, there are more than 5 Yoruba young men or women living in developed countries like US, Canada, UK, Australia etc. As a matter of fact, and this is not exaggeration, If you go to these developed countries, out of 10 Nigerians you see, 6 are Yorubas, the remaining 4 are other tribes. Guess what they are doing? Working professionally, studying for post graduate, owning a business etc. So I'm wondering where you got your myopic assertion that Yoruba has been overtaken in those areas. When it comes Industrialization, apart from Lagos which is a Yoruba state, the 2nd most industrialized state in Nigeria by a wide margin to the 3rd is Ogun state. If you wanna know I will provide you with evidences to back it up.

Like I said earlier, stop wasting your time in giving yourself headache about Yoruba heritage, history, achievements and success. There is absolute nothing you can do about it.