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onumadu:
@BigBashiru

First of all I tend to struggle with the notion that someone can convert from Islam to Christianity.
Being a Christian is a DELIBERATE (as in "I have decided to follow Jesus" ) kind of choice.
Once you make that decision genuinely (with all your heart), there is no going back.
I don't want to waste time on this point...

As for your observation about sex, you have a point there, and I have argued this point too.

Sex is a human thing created by God, and if you observe it's operation (from beginning to the end) you would notice that God designed it to almost force man to do it. I tend to connect it with God's command to man to "Be fruitful and multiply... fill the earth, ".

It is my humble opinion that God really wants man to have sex, and that is why he made it the sweetest and most compulsive thing.

If God wanted man to not have sex, but reproduce through another non-pleasurable (or non-sexual) way, he could have made it that when you shake hands or kiss a person, the person gets pregnant. EOD.

Then man won't need to struggle about it, because it would not be pleasurable at all. In fact I often argue that humans would have since been extinct from this planet, because very few people would want to reproduce. Anybody who doesn't know that kids reduce the sex drives of couples having dealt with marriage and kids before.

I tend to think that the only physical control God actually put on sex is that, he gave control of that "gate" to the woman.
Why do I say so?
Carefully observe the location of a woman's "private part", and you would see that only she can allow sex to happen, unless raped.
The location is TOTALLY INACCESSIBLE to a man, unless a woman allows it. PERIOD. In other words, the location makes it IMPOSSIBLE for a man to access "it", without a woman's FULL cooperation.
In a way that is why some men go crazy at the thought of their women having sex with other men. The thought of her consenting to "open that gate"... drives men crazy... but let me not digress too much. ..

As for the word "marriage", it is merely an English word. End of story.
Other cultures may have other words for "similar" HUMAN institution. Other cultures, even from antiquity, have UNIQUE practices in that human institution. The one we practice today only became universal because the Europeans colonized much of the world and imposed their culture of it. Again let me not waste time digressing there ...

God only cares about things we present to him as important. "Whatever you bind on earth is bound Heaven" (whatever you call important on earth is called important in Heaven).

So, your wife or husband can be a "Help meet"; it doesn't matter.
What matters is that Heaven took note of what you presented to it, and will hold you accountable (judge you) for either upholding or violating it.
"Heaven" (read God) is like the Code of Conduct Bureau". You declare your "assets" before taking office, and they will come to access you when you leave "office".
Bible never said that sex is a sin. HUMANS DID... in order to control other humans.

I hate all this "God really wants us to hv sex"....I hate hearing that....its just sex it's not a big deal....Christian animals....

Bossdave:
1. A woman was declared an help meet before the fall. After the fall, both men and women got the satanic nature. Everyone became selfish. As a result, they could no longer fulfil Devine purpose.

Ecclesiastes 7:29
Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions."

2. The person who created man and woman is the person who initiated the concept of being joined together and cohabitating. Which tradition or culture preceeds human creation? Marriage and creation are intertwined. That's why it is said the marriage is God's institution, or how would marriage be possible if there are no males and females?

3. The Bible never said that human sexuality is sin. Quote the verse that says so. What the Bible condemns is sexual immorality. Sex within the bonds of marriage is what the Bible upholds. And who told you that you can't have sex anymore with your wife because kids are now in your marriage? It seems you prefer to be morally bankrupt.

In conclusion, you're probably not a Christian. No Christian would say the Bible lied. If you're truly asking questions, then you would present yourself as a learner. You're actually as mischievous as the illogical criticisms you raised.

Don't spoil your nice write up with personal attacks.

The Bible lied does not mean its God lied....they are two different things......many things the apostles did or wrote are ancient practices and are outdated so they hv become lies by virtue of being outdated...it doesn't mean God lied. It simply means outdated portions of the Bible inadvertently turned to lies....

spiSeyi:
Thomas Sankara's script replaying itself soon, and some insiders will work for France in Niger, Mali, Guinea and Burkina Faso to overthrow the woke military guys. Africans have been selling out their own since the beginning of time and so shall it be till the end of time. The best thing for the juntas is to hand over to the civilian government in no time else they will all be deleted. Black man & greed

The black African members of the Presidential Election Petition Tribunal subverted the will of the Nigerian people probably for money and greed....that's the black man for you....perhaps there's a reason why God made them black

This thread is not a christian bashing thread. "Come now let us reason together saith the LORD" - Isaiah says. It is okay to ask questions and its okay to feel deceived. I was born muslim and grew up as a muslim before converting to christianity. So here are the lies I was told by the Bible. Silly christians who dont know the answer to questions or dont want to lose confidence in their religion resort to bullshit such as "His ways are not our ways"

1. Bible lie: A woman is a helpmeet.
The truth: women are self serving creatures just like their male counterpart. Many women are looking for rich men to depend on in which case the rich man is the helpmeet of the woman not the other way round. Many women refuse to bring money at home and are looking for financial security from men....

2. Bible lie: marriage is Gods institution.
The truth: marriage is a societal contract from ancient times. Today the vast majority of women see marriage as a cage which is why the vast majority postpone it for as long as possibe until when they no longer have much to lose. Its not Gods institution. The truth is today both men and women prefer relationships to marriage and marriage is primarily done for kids....

3. Bible lie: human sexuality is a sin
The truth: human beings just like all mammals love sex and have sex with who they find attractive. Christian men who wait till marriage will not have the best sex cos kids soon come in, the "wife" has already had her fun with some body count before getting married etc. So christianity is a religion of sexual frustration - thats the truth! Everything sexual and pleasurable is a sin in christianity and christians are encouraged to "mortify the desires of the flesh", "subject their members to Holy Spirit etc" - so most christians arent even comfortable with sex.... Please note that there is no woman in heaven or hell and there is no sexual pleasure in heaven or hell.....so if you a man, you only hv this earth to indulge in woman matters...

RALPHOW:
PLEASE FAMILY ARE SUFFERING ON LEKKI AJAH AXIS,!!
CHILDREN GETTING HOME 9PM IS NOT GOOD PLEASE
Sanwolu should come and fix Jakande, Osapa London and Chevron to make life easier for people living in Lekki Ajah axis please.
We are tired of getting home 1am just because of few portholes which can be fixed with 5MILLION

Keep waiting for governor to come and fix for you what you can fix yourself.....

nlfpmod:
https://nairametrics.com/2023/09/22/nigeria-secures-13-billion-oil-and-gas-investment-commitment-from-shell-exxonmobil-others-olu-verheijen/

Why do Nigerians rejoice over FDI? It's not free...the investor owns whatever they are investing in

Fountainofyouth:
What stopped African men from chasing them away before they had any footing in Africa? Instead African allowed them brainwash us with their religion, and sold their fellow Africans as slaves to them in exchange for stupid things, so who are the foolish savages between African men and them?

My dear the fact the PEPT subverted the will of the Nigerian ppl shows that indeed the black man sold themselves as slaves to Europeans. .

They did try to chase then away but the colonial hungry savages were desperate....a thief will always be more prepared and desperate than the owner

Fountainofyouth:
Then tell us the real truth.

It will be too long....just read ur history books...or Africa history blogs

Hints
There were libraries in Timbuktu mali before the savages tried to steal it.
They say Africans are monkeys but refused to return the art works ccof the monkeys in their museums haha
There hv been European attempts to erase glorious African history e.g. mansa musa and replace it with a colonial history that aims to depict Africans as uncivilized. They did it to native peoplles in Canada and USA.
The colonization of Africa did not stop it was only interrupted.
Africa is better than Europe that's why they came here ij thr first placd

CHoccolaTE:
Oh suddenly race doesnt matter because you want to lump all men together as superior to women?
Race matters
Even up till today black men and countries led by black men are bottom of the barrrel

The same way you claim men are 1000% more intelligent than women because of inventions, white men can also claim they are 1000% more intelligent than you

Race matters

White men taught you how to make the roads you build and how to use the weapons you fight your wars with.

Do you think the average white man sees your black ass as equal to him? You better accept the fact that you are inferior to white men since you want to claim superiority based on inventions.

Women are just as intelligent if not more intelligent than men. Look at universities today many best graduating students and first class students are females, this year alone more women did better in STEM courses than men.

The only thing you men have better than women is physical strength, nothing more.
You mentioned Marie Curie as a female inventor, you mentioned women who won nobel prices and broke boundaries and at the same time claim women are inferior mentally, why the contradiction?
You men are the ones that used brute force to keep women down for millenia, concocting oppressive religious and socetal laws to keep power to yourselves because of your innate criminal and sociopathic natures, don't come here and pretend you dont know how little emphasis was placed on female education until some years ago. For heavens sake, in the early nineties women had to fight for the right to vote, men made laws banning them from participating in politics until the feminist movement fought against it. But thank goodness all that is changing, just as women recently stated breaking boundaries and becoming more outspoken and pursuing their ambitions, you will see more of them breaking grounds in scientific areas and society in general.

Men don't fight wars to protect women they fight to protect society, both males and females and the wars are mostly caused by the same men so you have to get your asses out and fight those battles.

The western European savages are at the bottom of the barrel....you don't know the real truth about Africa

Kennedyiheme:
all this problems for women but they are the ones always rushing men for marriage

Women do not rush men for marriage...they only do so at older ages....its not their preferred relationship type

2016easy2017:
Very good and intelligent.

Soon many African countries would join. Throw it open. With the conditions that a member nation would have nothing to do with the west.
Create international trades among member nations.
Make rapid approach to adopt BRICS as national currency.
Forbid other nations from transactions with member nations if affiliated to the west

Excellent post....

Skyview01:
"Marriage is not women's preferred relationship type"

How did you come to such conclusion? what are the premises and your researches that will support above conclusion.

I am interested in thought process, care to elaborate?

Examine/observe the data and happenings around you.

Anny69:
I know this isn't the right section for this...

Seun when would you fix Nairaland and give us a block button?

My posts are the ones provoking you right? Tell me the truth!

Kipaji:
I believe that society should understand that not all women are to become wives, and that is OK.

Some women are better suited as side chick's, others as non-serious girlfriends, others as friends with benefits, others as jump-offs, others as flings, others are even asexual. This is life.

I am not a Chrisitian, but I believe that when the Bible said : "he who finds a goof wife, finds a good thing", it didn't mean that the man who marries find a good thing. It meant that the man who finds one of the few women that are meant to be wives, has found something valuable.

The problem is that men want to marry women who are not meant to be wives. The moment I started to understand all women are just not meant for marriage, I had less stress over women matters.

Even the so called wife when she is found will probably be 26+ so it's same issue....she's old before settling down and isn't settling down in her prime years...

So if you want to chop girls in their prime forget wife and focus on girlfriends....or have your older wife then have younger side chicks...

Kipaji @kipaji

Kipaji:
I believe that society should understand that not all women are to become wives, and that is OK.

Some women are better suited as side chick's, others as non-serious girlfriends, others as friends with benefits, others as jump-offs, others as flings, others are even asexual. This is life.

I am not a Chrisitian, but I believe that when the Bible said : "he who finds a goof wife, finds a good thing", it didn't mean that the man who marries find a good thing. It meant that the man who finds one of the few women that are meant to be wives, has found something valuable.

The problem is that men want to marry women who are not meant to be wives. The moment I started to understand all women are just not meant for marriage, I had less stress over women matters.

What is the function of a wife?? What does a wife do for you that you cant do yourself or hire someone to do for you?

Anny69:
We have trolls here. They just disturb your peace and some accounts their comments are just so annoying to see.

The comments triggers you because it tells you the truth that hurts?? Live with it....

Kipaji:
And what will this society become as men and women are moving away from marriage?

And what about the kids? Marriage is probably the best environment for kids to grow up in, ceteris paribus. A lot of kids growing up in unstable household is damaging for the society.

I don't think ppl who grow up without both parents damages them...that's tantamount to saying a child whose father or mother dies will be damaged cos of that....

1. Marriage is not women's preferred relationship type....if it was, they would have been rushing into it at younger ages..the fact most delay it significantly shows its not their preferred relationship type....know this and know peace....

2. Marriage is a religious institution...

Kipaji:
I have touched on this in my post where I debunked the "make money and women will come" scam.

https://www.nairaland.com/7465815/make-money-women-come

Also from deductive and empirical reasoning, marriage is not women's preferred type of relationship....if it were, they will be rushing it at younger ages....which is why I said marriage is a religious construct and I would even argue it has outlived its usefulness in its traditional form....some young girls I've met as early as 19 hv questioned the point of marriage and for rational reasons....when a woman has moni that becomes another strong reason for them not to get married.

Kipaji:
I have touched on this in my post where I debunked the "make money and women will come" scam.

https://www.nairaland.com/7465815/make-money-women-come

Il read and comment but here's a quick summary of some points I want you to know based on my experience speaking to soooo many babes:

1. Not every woman even likes the idea of marriage.
2. Husband is largely a religious construct that has outlived its usefulness....Today most women at a young age have no regard for their future Husband because there's no real need for a Husband except maybe money....everyother thing can be gotten from a boyfriend....
3. Many women look at how much demand/interest they are getting from guys, and then from that postpone the age at which they want to get married.....I met a girl at 20 who was getting lots of interest...based on the level of interest she was getting she said she would get married around 26....when she starts to decline....in between obviously she would hv flings....
4. Many young 18-24 girls receive so much overwhelming attention....if it was you will you settle down even when you are receiving so much attention... be honest....
5. Some girls noticing how in demand they are start dating multiple guys to maximize the sexual pleasure....

Hence a man desirous of a younger female should be comfortable with the idea of flings.

aisha1314:
This opinion is just nonsense and shitty. Yet another man with misogynistic opinion about women and women's sexuality.

A woman is free to sleep around if that's what she wants.....but she can't later expect a man (husband) to bear her financial expenses for a lifetime and shouldnt expect the husband to focus on only her....that's all I'm saying.....

aisha1314:
Just like your mama😂

Anyway for your information, this boyfriend I mentioned is the only guy I've been with so I technically have a body count of 1. I don't know any 'harlots' who've only slept with a single person. Not that it's really bad to be a harlot, but I'm definitely not one

My dear I completely agree with you. Marriage is just a ceremony. I feel if someone has a serious boyfriend they should go ahead and have sex and then when they are ready they can hv children....I feel it's the heart that matters....we must evolve with the times....

aisha1314:
This opinion is just nonsense and shitty. Yet another man with misogynistic opinion about women and women's sexuality.

Lol at your allegations.

All I'm saying is these days it's better to have both girlfriends and wives....girls express their sexuality in both scenarios...

Merry100:
Because they get to have it for a lifetime.

But it's a significantly depreciated asset. Im better off just having a series of girlfriends....

Never made sense to me....Why do husbands pay full price, bride price, expensive introductions, travelling hundreds of kilometers to see parents....for someone that was never truly theirs?? That boyfriends had for free without any of those processes?

I think marriages should just be mostly a celebration of God....

Nahunger:
Over used kpekus for that matter.

This world is not my home

This is the truth...what boyfriends got for free, fools called husbands are paying for

Chucks13:
Leave black man out of this and stop being pathetic like someone that lost his wife.

Obi is a bastard motherfucker who want to eat where he didn't sowed and we bursted his testicles and grilled it with hot chilli to serve him a hot chilli dose of it today.

Oga I think say una talk say I dey lie when I told una untrained kids obi will fail in the election, he will fal in Tribunal and he will never rule Nigeria in his lifetime.

By now obi body for don dey tell am. However, Mr man we are still waiting for that revolution you promised if obi failed at Tribunal abi una dey fear or what? We already dares you all to make the mistake to enter street na? So why talking like witch rain beat in the coven?......

See thought pattern. You (the black man) have a very long way to go....

Adjovi:
What a joke of a country....I was not expecting their decision to favour us in the first place. But joking apart, these people killed our Constitution today and it's ripple effect when it starts. Hmm let me not say much

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EvangelistChuks:
Hope the judges can sleep comfortably after today’s judgement with their conscience clear.

Do the black monkeys have conscience??

Atlantis585:
Is it safe to say that INEC is not mandated to conduct any elections in Nigeria since all their other responsibilities have now been thrown out by the so-called Judges?

What a caricature called courts. A nation of crooks and fraudsters condemned to never do well.

Spits!

The black man is a monkey....there's a reason God gave the color BLACK

LesbianBoy:
Nigeria will never work let's stop deceiving ourselves.

Listening to how they are just dismissing everything and saying it's a pretty election matter bla bla bla.

Anyways I am patiently waiting to see how they will dismiss the compulsory 25% that is in our constitution which tinubu didn't meet

they said it was white man holding them back.... now they holding themselves back...

Persephone1:
And some people got mad when I wrote i can't marry a Nigerian man? Just look at this! Very insensitive! All he's concern is the money he spent, taming and respect!

Patiently waiting for the "get a second wife" crew

No one spends money smiling.... He has every right to lament....