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If they preach contentment there will be no more mega cash to buy private jets,build expensive schools,buy phantoms and own other businesses......

If they preach contentment,while the pastor himself lives an extravagant life,then the follwers might stone him or yell @ him....

So to keep the members treading down the road of materialism as well as the MOG's living large,the pastors have to avoid preaching contentment....

Simple!!!!!

It has helped me to have a better and broader scope of bible verses that have sounded contradictory.....

It has actually made the exegesis of some verses easier and more accurate.....

It has also dealt with the spurious additions to some certain bible renditions...

I've got so many examples.......

But let's wait for others......

With the help of other translations many have come to know and see that the Kjv's 1 john 5:7 was a later addition to the greek scriptures and not part of the original manuscript.......

Thanks to the many translations we have for that.........

I just don't know where people get this list from....

The internet is really a crazy place...

@poster.....who gave you this list??did it fall from heaven??

This is all gibberish

Enigma: He has indeed been getting quite some support from a range of 'Muhammadians' on his various threads although, if you notice, the vast majority of his supporters are actually Jehovah's Witnesses with further support coming from misguided professing Christians and some non-Christians with an axe to grind.

Why is it that when persons repudiate the trinity dogma u turn around to point hands @ the witnesses....

The scriptures do not support the trinity...

Blame the bible and stop involving the Jw's.....

The trinity dogma has always been debunked by the bible and will continue to.........

Many persons will learn truths from the bible and stop clinging to the pagan triology....

you guys should do the same...

Be humble enough to always concur that ""Yahweh our God is the only true God and 1 Yahweh""

Jehovahs witnesses never wrote that part of the bible....

The truth is staring @ you guys right in the face......

Stop pointing fingers and face the bible......

MacDaddy01: Lol........seems brainpulse is giving you guys a hard time.

Which hard time??

The boy don run....lol...

And where the hell is this brain pulse of a guy.....

Come and close this thread...we are through with it....

frosbel: okay,

But where is this ONE person called Christ, please stop playing games.

Has this brain pulse of a man read daniel 3:28??

The guy just they waste our time....

brainpulse: Daniel 3:25
King James Version (KJV)

25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

Please kindly answer this questions.

Who is refered to as the son of God in the bible?
Who is refered to as the son of god in the bible?

Please mr brain pulse....u need bible classes...

After I quote this scripture I expect u to close this thread and go to sleep...

You have been wasting our time..

We have other posts to attend to...

Please read the verses after verse 25...

Let's read daniel 3:28..
.......
New International Version (©1984)
Then Nebuchadnezzar said, "Praise be to the
God of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, who
has sent his"" angel"" and rescued his servants!
They trusted in him and defied the king's
command and were willing to give up their lives
rather than serve or worship any god except
their own God.
.....
New Living Translation (©2007)
Then Nebuchadnezzar said, "Praise to the God
of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego! He sent
his ""angel"" to rescue his servants who trusted in
him. They defied the king's command and were
willing to die rather than serve or worship any
god except their own God...

Mr brain pulse are u satisfied??

It was Yahwehs angel who was the 4th person....

I so love the bible...

It explains itself and will continue to...

Oya pack your load leave this post...

You just wasted our time.....

Thank you....

Read that verse up there and get some rest..u need it

It wasn't God that was in the furnace with the 3 hebrews..it was God's angel....

I repeat::::

No man has ever seen God @ anytime...No man can see God and live.....

The bible just debunked your post.

tevinsolt: the bible does not say God is one person either.....but there are more evidence to prove the complexity of God. you saying God is one basically shows that you've cornered God into an angle/box and if anything does not fit into your way of looking at God you displace it. the trinity simply proves the incomprehensible nature of God. it's either you take or leave it.

It seems u've been reading some other book and not the bible....

Frsobel just quoted enough scriptures to show u that God is one and not 3....

Open that book called the bible and read...

SMH!!!!

brainpulse: I kow you are coming with this i am ready for you.

Who are the gods (small g) your tranlation was refering to. The only time the Bible refered to gods(small g) are those worshiping images and when we are refered to as small gods. at no time did the bible refered to as angels as gods. I said, "You are gods, And all of you are sons of the Most High. Psalm 82:6.) I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the ...) in this context, It was

Lol...

You are really gonna be caught by your own trap by the time we are finished with this discussion....

So tell me who the Gods are??...

Remember.....

God is suppose to be one,not more than 1......

So let's start.....

brainpulse: The problem I see hears is this, these peole had only seen God from the Logis side of View but bot from the spiritual angle. They have read only part of the Bible that suited a claim and left the whole Bible just for a couse and purpose.

They have narrowed their understanding to a revision that suits their belief and understanding neglecting the intents of the spirit of God

My freind always read the bible completely before u run into conclusions....let the bible explain itself...

If u let the bible explain itself you won't be entangled in this enigma you are in.......

Even the verse you are quoting never assumed that the 4th person was Christ....

So why this false conclusion??

brainpulse: So you are saying:

God is not powerful to reveal himself in any nature.
That God can not do all things accept things in your Head.
That the bible lied when Moses saw only a part of God.
That the writter of Genesis wrote in error.
That even Adam never saw God in the evening of the day as recorded in scriptures.
That there was differnce in the words used for angels, God, lord, god, Christ in the bible expect those permitted by you and your gathering for the sake of all interpretations.

God Defiled your LOGIC again

"The minute God can be seen and then can die then he stops being GOD...."
Where was this written in the bible?

There are certain attributes of God that you have not yet come to acknowledge because of the trinity dogma...

Remove the trinity veil and see clearly....

1....GOd cannot be seen by man...never,ever!!!!!!!!
2....God cannot die.....

The bible proves this......

Always let the bible interprete itself....if u don't you will always land In the gutter...

Meanwhile start refuting Jesus himself who said..""No man has seen God""...

No man can see God and yet live....

Try to let this ring in your brain and then you can interprete the scriptures clearer...

brainpulse: With all humility and to honour God in heaven and not to sin against God's WORD and not add or remove because of the day of reckoning and judgement. Please kindly referred me to a biblical reference saying that the fourth person refereed to in Dan 3:25 was only an Angel not CHRIST.

God defiled Your LOGIC Frosbel.
I would humbly say I see the Spirit of Error hear from you.

Is this the scripture you are talking about??

New International Version (©1984)
He said, "Look! I see four men walking around
in the fire, unbound and unharmed, and the
fourth looks like a son of the gods."
......
......
English Standard Version (©2001)
He answered and said, “But I see four men
unbound, walking in the midst of the fire, and
they are not hurt; and the appearance of the
fourth is like a son of the gods.”


Please did u ever take your time to read that verse??

yorke: Dance if you like as a sister but don't shake dat ur yansh anyhow n anywhere when I'm sitting at the back.

Hahahahaha......wetin u go do if she shake am??

brainpulse: Hi all,

To give us proper understanding of this issued (GodHead) that has suffered immense debate i would want us to answer this critical questions before i post a write-up from some-one.

1. When God( we all agree that God is spirit) and the angels visited Abraham, in what form did He visit Abraham (this question is trickish)? He also ate and do things like Human being. Then Can we say its is illogical, difficult for God, impossible for God to come down in the same nature and experience everything as of man for a purpose as the one Christ did?

2. The bible concisely recorded that in the eve of the day, God will come down and fellowship with adam ( i believe talk, and also do things like man with him, properbly laugh and talk) in what nature since God is a spirit will Adam ( man of 100%) see God,dinned with him? So if God could do likewise in those form then is it possible to do the same for any purpose).

3. The bible recorded in Daniel 3:25-28, When daniel's friend were put into the furnace of fire. The king recorded that The fourth image was like the Image of the SON OF GOD even when Jesus christ had not be birthed or His mother and Father were birthed. What misery is this? And this has defiled "LOGIC" Then can we say He had already exited before His death and only waiting for time (we are also going to be debating on this). If a man had exited before his birth that means is death is a formalty for a devine purpose. He also said no one can take His life if He had not laid it down? Then if God can allow this that defiles LOGIC then is anything impossible for him even if it will defile LOGIC?
Thanks all as we enjoy this heat.

No man has ever seen GOD....

This should ring in your head all the time...
......

All those spirit persons that were seen.felt and touched were not Yahweh but his representatives.........

No man can see GOD and live........

That is a fact....

Angelic representatives were the persons who were seen and felt .....

And so also Jesus isn't God....because Jesus was seen,and Jesus died...

All this can never happen with the almighty...

The minute God can be seen and then can die then he stops being GOD....

Don't y'all get ti??

haibe: Perfect bro, i see no reason why anyone will still not understand this beautiful post, i intended not to comment on any trinity topic again until i read this post but nevertheless am not going to be suprised if anyone still doubts the truth of the trinity because the bible has talked of people in the last days who will be ever learning but never coming to the knowledge of the truth.

God bless u bro.

Oboy your stance on genesis 19:24 has been debunked...hope you went through my post...

For the fact you trinitarians cherry pick scriptures just to support your stance without reading through all the scriptures or rather allowing the bible explain itself shows how spurious the trinity dogma is....

Your prop for the evidence that Yahweh is the name of a triune Godhead has been flawed with scriptures......

The trinity will always continue to be false because it is false.....the scriptures will continue to explain itself and continue to debunk the trinity dogma.....

Image123: The simple point of the Trinity is that God is in three persons, Blessed Trinity. Don't you know that nice hymn "Holy, Holy, Holy"? It's not the same person but Three persons. That God remains One is the mystery we're talking about. Succintly put, we can say that God raised Jesus Christ. Which of the persons in the Godhead, now that truly is not too clear. My answer is still God. Is it God the Father? Yes. Is it God the Son? i'll unpopularly say maybe. Is it God the Spirit? Yes. Consider these 4scriptures.
1. Act 13:30 But God raised him from the dead:
2. Galatians 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead
3. 1Pe 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
4. Joh 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
Joh 2:21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
Was Jesus talking tongue in cheek when He said "In three days I will raise it up"? Should not He have said "In three days, God the Father will raise it up"?
m.

You just debunked your own self with not being sure of who raised Jesus ........

The Galatians 1:1 u quoted specifically and directly tells us it was God the Father who raised Jesus up from d dead not God the Son.........

All u should have done is quietly find out what Jesus meant when he said ""destroy this temple and in 3 days I will raise it up""

But the trinity dogma led u to your blind conclusion...

You yourself Just confirmed that it was God the Father who raised Jesus up,not Jesus himself......

Let me direct your mind to an example similar to these in the bible.....

From the book of luke 8:48.....

Jesus in that verse is quoted as saying to the woman suffering from the flow of blood ""YOUR FAITH HAS MADE YOU WELL""...

Now the question is since the womans Faith made her well,was it the woman who healed herself??

NO ofcus is the answer.....rather it was power from God through. Christ that healed the woman because she had Faith as recorded in luke 8:46.......

Likewise,by his(Jesus) obedience as a human,he provided the moral basis for the Father(who ressurected him) to raise him from the dead,thus acknowledging Jesus as Gods son. Because of Jesus' faithful course of life,it could properly be said that Jesus himself was responsible for his ressurection,just as the Faith of that woman made her well.......

God the Father raised Jesus from d dead,not Jesus himself.......


Got it??...

We can boldly make the same claim if we've lived faithful lives on earth ........
.the bible
says he that is faithful right down to the end is the one that will be saved....



:::::You guys are still running away from the question if God can die......

Your answers are never compatible with the scriptures......

Why??

Because God cannot and has never died..........

Jesus died but Yahweh(God the Father never can die.....infact he cannot die)

musKeeto: Smh...

I'm also SMH!!!.....

Was the gathering a business summit or a gathering for persons who want to follow Christ??

These clerics have actually turned church programmes to business classes....

SMH!!!!!!.......

I pity for my country......

haibe: I prefer worship sessions also, i remember when adeboye came to our skul 4 our 50th anniversary, the praise session was almost like a club house, those guys dancing by my side where so caught up in the dance that when preaching began, they slept off.

I think church should be a solemn place of worship, we are to worship God in spirit and in truth but the opposite is the case in some churches.

It amazes me how people leave some churches after praise session, they go to church mainly to dance alanta, what pains me most is that even the pastors dont see anything wrong in that, all they want is more and more members, they are scared to condemn lustful acts in church becos they dont want to lose members.

I pray all this stop in the church of God because sincerly it will reach a time when some true christians will see no reason why they should go to their churches cos it enhances lustful desires.

Oboy....

You just made a lot of sense......

I like your comment...

Lol......

If the crude we have now can just be frozen for sometime I think 9ja can retrace her steps....because this crude oil has really dulled this country for too long.....

The leaders only think of oil and how they'll keep stealing from its gains....

This country dey mad o....

Only on the ground of fornication can a mate divorce his or her spouse biblically speaking........


So did your aunty's husband commit adultery??

The OP: If the almighty was coming to earth himself this would have made an excellent opportunity to describe The Coming Being As Himself , rather he says - "and he will tell them everything I command him" .

My question is if the Prophet in this prophecy is God, can God recieve command from Himself?

My brother u too get sense.....

You're just a genius....

Your que§tions are so tactful and thought p®ovoking.......

InfaÑtilism and strong headedness is what is actually wrong with trinitarians....

How persons can read scriptures like acts 3:13 and still hold on to the trinity baffles me..

New International Version (©1984)
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God
of our fathers, has glorified his"" SERVANT"" Jesus.
You handed him over to be killed, and you
disowned him before Pilate, though he had
decided to let him go.
........
New Living Translation (©2007)
For it is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and
Jacob--the God of all our ancestors--who has
brought glory to his"" SERVANT"" Jesus by doing
this. This is the same Jesus whom you handed
over and rejected before Pilate, despite
Pilate's decision to release him.
.......
English Standard Version (©2001)
The God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and
the God of Jacob, the God of our fathers,
glorified his"" SERVANT"" Jesus, whom you
delivered over and denied in the presence of
Pilate, when he had decided to release him.
...........

How can YAHWEHS servant be Yahweh himself or rather equal to Yahweh??

Wouldn't that be madness ??

Trinitarians abandon the trinity and be free....

SMH!!!!!!

The OP: @ Ihedinobi ,one last question before you go.

1. Can Yahwah die?
2. Did Jesus die?

This is the ogbonge question that will make trinitarians start explaining gibberish just to prove the trinity.....

My own question is why will Jesus if he is the almighty,hand over the kingdom to Yahweh and then subject himself to Yahweh forever??

Why should Jesus wait to be given rulership and power??
Why??

If he is equally God why wait on a colleague of His to annoint him and appoint Him.??

Ihedinobi and Co u guys are really downgrading and berating the almighty(Yahweh)....

You guys have now made Yahweh and Jesus colleagues.....you've now made them brothers(twin brothers to be specific)..

Make ona take time o....

Because of a foolish doctrine u guys have struGgled to make Jesus equal with Yahweh even when d bible clearly shows they aren't ......


I no blame ona...

Na constantine I blame....

aletheia: . . .just become a Roman Catholic. It will then be part of your bible.

Hahahahahahaha........

Frosbel oya.....aletheia has spoken.....

Lol.....the whole country has gone maddddd.....

Naija is just finished......

Sometimes I pity thieves who end up been burnt by civilians....

Its just crazy

I'm so sick and tired of 9ja....

I just don't know how to define this country anymore...

Mayhem here and there...

And the rulers are just there stealing day and night.....

SMH!!!!!!!!!!

OLAADEGBU: . While there is one God, there are three persons within the One God. QED .

Now that's confusion @ its peak......


Ola how far....how u dey??

The questions we should be asking is:::

When Jesus died,where did he go to??

Before Yahweh ressurected Jesus,where was Jesus after he died??

If one can answer these questions then one can answer where we go when we die...

The answer is just right in front of us......

kola oloye: My point is this- There is only God,Jehova,the Creator.
Jesus is the Christ,the redeemer.MATT 16
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood
hath not revealed it unto thee,but my Father which is in heaven.

18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church;
and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on
earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

20 Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.



Holy Spirit is part of the trinity,not negotiable.
While Jesus was leaving,he said he was going to the father to prepare a place for us.
If he is the Almighty God which father was he talking about?
While on the cross,he called upon God to remove the cup from him or do you think he was calling on himself to save himself?

I'm happy ur a trinitarian asking a fellow trinitarian these questions.....