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Lol.......

Chei buzugee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Joe might just be resting.....

I know he's ok.....

Nairaland is 1 place where If u aint resolved resilient enough 1 might get discouraged.....

But I know he shuld be ok.....

Buzugee there's 1 of ya post that u got beaten so hard....

I just can't find that thread...lol

The spirit is d breath of like which goes back to God and the soul is d individual.......

That is why a soul that sins dies.......

That is why animals are souls...

@buzugee.....that's what I understand from d bible......

uhonmora: if you're alone in your room, speak all the tongues in the world...no one cares.

Once you're in the midst of fellow christians in church, do not speak in tongues, unless there's an interpreter.

How many of our pentecostal churches are following this today? They instruct all their members to speak gibberish at the same time...with no one to interpret their mystical mumbo-jumbo to edify the church.

Very good comment....

Evrybody speaks in some gibberish and not even a soul interpretes....

So weird!!

so what is d point here...

Who really are d sons of God that came down to have relations with d daughters of men.....

I mean why wuld d bible say the ""daughters of men" if it was not to emphasize d fact that those men/sons were supernatural beings??

And who were those angels during noahs time that were thrown into tartarus??

Let's think!!

buzugee: Time to go learn some taekwando seeing as my brethren Ijawkid is planning to put me to sleep with choke hold

Hahahahahahahahahaha....

Prepare hard....lol

logicboy01: God did not create man in his image. ~Man created God in his own image.

Evolution debunks the idea that man was created.

Evolution is rubbish...

Evolution won't make humans think of being charitable just as u aspire to be......

Ur professed ancestors never could do what u do......

Being human alone debunks evolution....

Go back to d bush and run naked and eat banana's if u believe in evolution....

If bill gates rili evolved from monkeys u think he'll be contributing billions to help less priviledged kids??

Logic Mind: Buzugee is wrong as usual.
There is a huge difference.
Spirit is everywhere. There are good and evil spirits, there is a holy spirit, an amadioha spirit, etc. No soul equvalents. Ever heard of the Holy Soul?.
Spirits can exist on their own and interact with the living. It is your virtual self. Souls live inside people and record everything for judgement.

Put is this way: the soul is the internal hard drive god put in you to record all your actions. When you die, this data is transfered to the mobile external drive called spirit. It is the spirit that wanders the earth as ghosts. It is the spirit that will stand judgement based on its data. And it is the spirit that will enjoy heaven or endure hell.
The bible made clear that souls die. Spirits never die.
Ezekiel 18:20, "The soul that sinneth, it shall die."

Perfect answer...

Buzugee hope ur learning from an atheist

Soul that sins dies...

Soul is d being itself.....

Adam became a living soul....

Animals are souls too....

jagunlabi: Rubbish, buzee. The god of OT belonged to the jewish people, not the whole world. He only operated within a specific region of the planet and that was the middle eastern desert regions. Why are you spreading untruths?

He belonged to every person....

He was only keeping d promise he made with abraham,isaac because of there obedience and integrity.........

That from them he'll bless d world...

And here we are nigga......

buzugee: same God, different convenant. the old testament is basically about the indigenous people of the earth. the indigenous people of the world and their laws statutes and commandments. those were pioneering times and to whom much is given, much is expected. they were given the laws ( psalms 147 vs 19 and 20 ) and ownership of the earth. they lived in a lap of luxury basically. however inspite of the luxury they went to worshipping baal and milcolm and molech. started sacrificing their babies. started sacrificing each other and started lynching and mutilating all the lords prophets who came to get them to change their ways. these people were BADAZZEZZZZZZZ. so the lord went HARD and HARSH on them. he removed his protection and allowed them to be taken into all manners of slavery and suffering and torture.

with the new testament, their was already the emergence of so many other races who were not israelites so God had to look for a way to get the laws to them too, seeing as the people who naturally should civilize them with the lords laws were themselves in a seriouslly fallen state. so the lord sent Jesus to die for the israelites so they can ressurect from their spiritual death, and then write the laws ( lord only deals with israelites to write his laws ) that will rope in the gentiles and israelites as one. however these gentiles are not jews ( israelites ) so it will be unfair to expect them to follow jewish laws of circumcision and ceremonial laws and traditional laws etc etc. so the new convenant that united both jews and gentiles got rid of all those jewish traditional and ceremonial laws. only the moral laws stand now. that in essence is why the new testament looks softer than the old testament

Good answer my bro....

Same Yahweh different covenant...

Shake my hands joor.....

Logig boy u forget that d reason why u wanna help people and be charitable is because u were made in d image of d 1 person u hate so much.....(Yahweh)...

1 corinthians 13:8-11 shuld help u.......

U love humans,u love people and wanna help them...

Where do u think that intuition came from??

By chance mayb.....

Where have I been o.......


Ok I don come....

What's d fuss about??

NEPHILIMs??


I wish I was as big as those guys so that I culd practice a smackdown on buzugee.....(WWE)...lol

Let me do my lil research on this topic...

Be back soon....

Been busy like HELL

@goshen.....oboy how far??

buzugee: LOL Ijawkid, your doctrine, from all i can see so far is definitely not from the bible. i dont know where your doctrine is from but it is contrary to the bible. thats all i gotta say. reincarnation is biblical and God is the one who kills and brings to life. if you cant get with those concepts, then i will have to let you continue with your doctrine till one day you come to the full realization of the real doctrine. you think God is impotent enough to allow something to kill what he has created ? brother, the lord heals and the lord kills. nobody else does that. the earth is the judgement ground ( ecclesiastes 3 vs 16 ). if you get killed on earth, that was your judgement from God.

How do u uÑderstand the ecclesiastes 3:16 u just quoted??

buzugee: ahhhh i see you are not familiar with reincarnation. a 10 or 12 year old is the age of the body. the age of the spirit is over 10000 years old. when God delivers judgement, it is not based on the age of the body, it is based on the pas deeds of the spirit.

Oh re-incarnation again??

I thought I had showed u d kinda answer Jesus gave to 1 who asked or thought d way ur thinking now....



@ least I know u believe in Yeh§hua even if u'v shoved the thought of d 1st century christians and job existing......

Buzugee Yahweh didn't kill those persons on that plane...

God is not a serial killer o

buzugee: @ Ijawkid, the story of job is a symbolic story. an allegorical account. it is not a real occurrence. it is one of those storys that you take a lesson out of.

DOES THIS SOUND LIKE A REAL STORY TO YOU ?

And there was a day when his sons and his daughters were eating and drinking wine in their eldest brother’s house: 1:14 And there came a messenger unto Job, and said, The oxen were plowing, and the asses feeding beside them: 1:15 And the Sabeans fell upon them, and took them away; yea, they have slain the servants with the edge of the sword; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee. 1:16 While he was yet speaking, there came also another, and said, The fire of God is fallen from heaven, and hath burned up the sheep, and the servants, and consumed them; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee. 1:17 While he was yet speaking, there came also another, and said, The Chaldeans made out three bands, and fell upon the camels, and have carried them away, yea, and slain the servants with the edge of the sword; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee. 1:18 While he was yet speaking, there came also another, and said, Thy sons and thy daughters were eating and drinking wine in their eldest brother’s house: 1:19 And, behold, there came a great wind from the wilderness, and smote the four corners of the house, and it fell upon the young men, and they are dead; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee.

Dude, you have a form of godliness but you are denying the power thereof

So ur now telling me d story of job is just an allegory....

Oboy u sef ehhhh.......

How do I handle this case if u tell me job never existed.........

Ok let's go to 1st century christians.....

Who killed those christians who died as matrys??

Or those that died in mishaps.??....


Who killed them??

God??

Na wa o....

PrettyCindy: I write this with a heavy heart.
Yesterday morning we took my younger sister to the hospital due to severe malaria and she was admitted. At about 11am, i heard screams coming from the adjacent room. I went to see what was happening and there, was lieing a beautiful young pregnant lady of about 26yrs old. She was dieing gradually right before the eyes of her husband and family. According to a nurse, she was rushed to the hospital that morning by 4am. Series of test were done and her packed cell volume (pcv- blood volume) was 14%. She was severely anaemic. The ideal thing in such situations would have been to infuse blood but unfortunately they are Jehovah's witnesses and they told the Doctor not to bother yet they couldn't afford to buy the injection which acts as a blood subtitute (costs #20, 000 for one and they would have needed four). Her husband is not rich neither is her family.
By 12noon, this beautiful pregnant lady died. Just like that. Funny i was in the room calming her mum when she gave up the ghost. About 11years ago, i also lost a dear friend because of this no blood rule thing.


So here comes my questions. Isn't it about time these people review their bible and this no blood rule?
Are they comfortable burying their children and grandchildren?
Is the bible really against blood donation?
Or are they just being plain stupid?
The worst is these people commits sin like every one else and when a decision that has to do with life and death is to be made, they choose death and will still go to hell with their sins.

You think an unserious witness will abstain from blood??

Does d bible prohibit blood intake??

Does d bible give d command for servants of God to abstain from blood??

Ask urself..........

buzugee: 1 john 2 vs 22 He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. you cant deny the words of the father since he says he comes in the whole volume of the book. if you do, you are an antichrist

Who plagued job with his problems??

Simple question for u....

U quoted from jobs right??

Who killed jobs innocent kids......

When God unleashes destruction on persons ofcus u know y.....

God aint an aimless murderer that goes around killing people buzugee...

God aint a serial killer.....

I don't know if ur getting my point...

I'm not choosing scriptures or neglecting them,ur d one doing that.........

I quoted ecclesiastes but u shoved it aside.....

We'v seen God destroy wicked persons and preserved d lives of those who serve him....

God destroyed every single unrigtheous person during noahs day but preserved noah and his family.......even @ that he gave advance warning...

Not bringing a deluge without notice to destroy d wicked and d good...

When he brought destruction to isreal too ,survivors were there....

Ur mis-interpreting d scriptures my bro.......

God does not kill his servants along with sinners @ random.....

He isn't a serial killer bro

Back to my 1st question...

Who killed jobs kids??

On that dana flight definitly innocent persons must have been on board......

But they all met an unfortunate end.....

Ecclesiastes 9:11 explains what best befell the dana flight and all d victims...

Bélla3: Lagosia,
Jesus was taken out of God just lyk woman out of man. Even the quaran quotes
' and we put our spirit in him'
when sometin in put in sumtin it cn be said to be dat tin especialy wen dat tin was nat

What lagoshia put up there altho sounds crazy but it debunks d folly of the trinity dogma....

That's exactly what d trinity implies.....

Jesus is both Father and son to himself from d trinity dogma....

Its madness!!!!!

Yahweh is greater than his son but trinitarians will say NO he is not....

Oya make ona answer lagoshia.....

Mr_Anony: You know what, give me sometime to study scripture and look into this then I'll get back to you. I just might agree with you. however just one point to note: please don't make any assumptions upon God's nature, God can destroy for eternity and nothing stops Him from doing that.
Let me study my bible and pray about it and then we shall break bread. there is a possibility that you might just be right. God's love be with you

Ur welcome bro......

Mr_Anony: I think I know where you are going but you do realise that Jude could as well have been talking about an example of what hell fire might be like or the fact that they are definitely condemned to hell which is to come.
But that aside, correct me if I'm wrong. are you trying to imply that the bible may not necessarily mean eternal in the true sense of the word when it uses it? because this could imply that eternal life is not really to live forever but to live for a very long time.

Ok my point::::::

Éternal fire denotes 1 thing.....

Total annihilation....

Anything that undergoes eternal fire ceases to exist.....

No hope of being ressurected....

Second death............

Sodom and gomorah ceased to exist after that incident.....

when revelation talks about d lake of fire,eternal fire,eternal destruction. It means anything thrown in that figurative fire ceases to exist(total de§truction).
Compare 2thessalonians 1:9...

Let's take for instance death itself.....

Revelation tells us DEATH and HELL(hades) will be thrown into d lake of fire........

That shuld tell u whÉre I"m arriving @......

Rev 21:4 tells us that amongst the things that will cease or will be wiped out,death is mentioned.......

If death will be thrown into d lake of fire it simply means death will cease to exist for all eternity,destroyed.....


Ofcus death aint gonna feel the agonies associated with a burning fire.....

Same goes for Hades or sheol,the common grave of man.....

There will be graves no more in Gods kingdom because nobody will die .......

U see d point....

The concept of persons been literally tormented in a fire goes contratry to d nature of God.....
Why would God torment persons for sinning when he can make them cease to exist.....

That's why many claim God is a wicked God if his plan is to torment persons literally in a fire.....

It doesn't make any sense......

How much torture in a fire would make satan feel pains??


No amount of torture my bro....

Total destruction is what awaits satan and his cohorts.......

Hope u get my point??

The sentence adam and eve faced is d same sentence di§ obedient mankind will face...

DEATH....everlasting death.....
Thanks


When u Çonsider scri¶tures u'll get d full gist......

I'v always thought too that persons will literally be burning in hell and feeling pains as well...but bringing many scriptures together showed me what d point realy is.....

I'll also like to actually go into that rich man and lazarus parable.....

If u want we culd break bread on it...

:-)

italo: *smiles* na d cane sef for beta pass all dis lie lie wey una dey put for our head

Which lie??

Na ona attract am na....

Better go throw way that mary image wey dey ya house b4 I open my 2 eyes....

italo: Your conscience is still not clear enough to answer my questions? I keep waiting.

Italo....

Na to use cane come flog u na him dey hungry me now....lol

Mr_Anony: Dude, let me clarify something before I answer you. I do not necessarily hold that hell will be literal fire but I hold that it is an everlasting punishment.

Now that said, from what I understand from scripture, the fire that befell Sodom and Gomorrah did quench. I would like to know where you are going with this question.

Read jude 7 and tell me if it really quenched then we can really understand what we are talking about...

Ok let me quote it....

New International Version (©1984)
In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the
surrounding towns gave themselves up to
sexual immorality and perversion. They serve
as an example of those who suffer the
punishment of eternal fire.
New Living Translation (©2007)
And don't forget Sodom and Gomorrah and
their neighboring towns, which were filled with
immorality and every kind of sexual
perversion. Those cities were destroyed by
fire and serve as a warning of the eternal fire
of God's judgment.
English Standard Version (©2001)
just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the
surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in
sexual immorality and pursued unnatural
desire, serve as an example by undergoing a
punishment of eternal fire.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities
around them, since they in the same way as
these indulged in gross immorality and went
after strange flesh, are exhibited as an
example in undergoing the punishment of
eternal fire.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities
about them in like manner, giving themselves
over to fornication, and going after strange
flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering
the vengeance of eternal fire.
International Standard Version (©2008)
Likewise, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities
near them, which like them committed sexual
sins and engaged in homosexual activities,
serve as an example of the punishment of
eternal fire.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
Just as Sadom and Amorah and their
surrounding cities, in which, like these, they
committed fornication and went after other
flesh, are subject to demonstrations of
eternal fire while they are condemned to
judgment.


Sodom and gomorah were condemned or fÀced the purnishment of ETERNAL fire...

That's why I asked if sodom and gomorahs fire has quenched??

Is sodom and gomorah still burning??

The fire is eternal........

I'm trying to make u understand something with this fire/hell fire/fire that never quench theory....

Hope u now know where I'm Ðriving @??

buzugee: pastor tithe and reverend night vigil

Lmao...

Mayb pastor drive jets

Religion is defined as :: a specific set of fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed Ùpon by a number of persons or sect.....



By that definition christianity is a religion....

But many have thwarted its original purpose..

Many have adopted pagan beliefs and attached it to christianity(easter,use of d cross in worship,xmas,hell fire, etc)

Mr_Anony: I don't claim that the fire is physical in any way but what you are claiming is that the fire means permanent removal even though the bible clearly states eternal torture. I am not contradicting the bible.

If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter into life maimed, rather than having two hands, to go to hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched where Their worm does not die And the fire is not quenched. Mark 9:43-44

The emphasis is not in the fire but in the eternal torment. Notice in the parables of Christ where the villians suffer weeping and gnashing of teeth, also the parable of the rich man and lazarus.
I know hell is a scary thing but that is God's punishment and that's how it is. We have the opportunity not to go to hell by repenting and believing in Christ Jesus.

Did the fire that befell sodom and gomorah ever quench??

I just need ur candid answer..

Then we'll see what d scripture says...

Its good we share ideas here..
Thanks..

And also was the story of d rich man and lazarus a parable to mean sometin else or to mean persons will literally suffer in a burning furnace called hell fire??

Mr_Anony: My friends, stop trying to make God convenient for yourselves.

@truthislight, it is funny how you can accuse preachers misquoting scripture and yet turn around and do exactly the same thing. You quoted Revelations 20:13-14. Why did you leave out verse 15.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books.
13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.
14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire. Rev 20:12-15

I know hell is a very terrible thing but don't deny it just so that you can feel better about yourself and about God. Do not make excuses for God. If you want to glorify Him, glorify Him as He is or don't glorify Him at all, just don't edit Him to suit your tastes.

Is that fire a literal fire??

If death and hell will be thrown into it will it still be literal??

Satan will be in it too.....

Fire signifies total destruction my bro...

Nothing more noting less.....

Didn't u read in d prophets that's God even detests when d isrealites roasted there kids in fire??

It was a detestable thing to God...

So how wuld God in return do that to sinful humans....

Infact if persons will literally be burning in hell for all eternity,then it means everlasting life is also a reward to sinners......

To an extent many in d hell will become used to the fire and enjoy it @ d end of it all....

Evil doers will cease to exist,destroyed beyond ressurection....

Second death(Lake of fire)

If adam and eve d sole instigators of our problem aren't in a burning hell then why should we there progeny suffer that kind of purnishment...??

buzugee: another thing that you dont know Ijawkid is that you are not a real prophet ( which you definitely aint lol )if you dont juxtapose what is happening on the ground level with the consequences of such actions in the scriptures and then preach to people based on the consequences of such actions. real prophets speak about disasters and wars and violence.

JEREMIAH 28 VS 8 From early times the prophets who preceded you and me have prophesied war, disaster and plague against many countries and great kingdoms. this is the duty of a prophet. you on the other hand tell people what they want to hear.

2 timothy 4 vs 3 They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear.

Buzugee my ears are nt been tickled.......

I knw what time we are in this system of things...

But ya analogy is what I'm nt buying....

I am somebody who actually knows all about the happenings in d world and how it connects to the bibles prophecy...

But as for that Dana crash God didn't kill those people....

That's my point....

And I'm a preacher of d goodnews...

I don't think I prophesy....lol

All prophecies are there in d bible...

All I do is decipher how they relate to our times and times to come.....

Next time when boarding a flight make sure it aint running on one faulty engine...lol

So that u dnt blame God for it


But I really do preach what many persons don't wanna hear....

I speak d truth....

U shuld knw me....

Many persons sometimes ask me if I'm a christians becos of d truth I speak....

But I'm nt jus gonna agree with u on this.....

italo: Why are all of you always dodging my questions? I repeat:

How do you know the early Christians didn't pray through Mary? Does the Bible have records of everything the early Christians did?

And why are you a Bible student when the early Christians didn't have the Bible.



It is not "if I say." Could everything the apostles did be contained in the Bible? Answer! Yes or no.

And if you take the word of historians, that means you are affirming that we can refer to extra-biblical sources on matters of faith. Agreed?

Italo u knw what's wrong and right...

Both d bible and history shows no trace of early christians praying thru mary.....

Is that not enough??

What else do we need??

Deep down italo u knw hw wrong it is....

how can we pray thru a woman??

I mean is this what christendom has turned into??

Now Jesus u worship as God is not enough,mary has to beg Jesus for all of u.....

Lol...

Yahweh dey watch ona o......

The day e go happen ona go answer why ona dey pray thru mary..

Jesus himself will ask u guys that......

Make ona ready answer for am........

Buzugee buzugee buzugee.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How many times I call u??

italo: Me, run away? Never! Rather you're the one running away from my simple questions as usual.

How do you know the early Christians didn't pray through Mary? Does the Bible have records of everything the early Christians did?

And why are you a Bible student when the early Christians didn't have the Bible.



It is not "if I say." Could everything the apostles did be contained in the Bible? Answer! Yes or no.

And if you take the word of historians, that means you are affirming that we can refer to extra-biblical sources on matters of faith. Agreed?

So no escape route on this....



Since you are the only one that knows, then you are the worshipper

Oboy all d basics and fundamentals. Of christianity were recorded....especially when it involves worship..

Italo this ya mentality is not correct...

U can't run away from a major dogma u guys hold on to with d ""not everytin was recorded in d bible""

I mean why then do we have d bible if we can just worship God the way we like??

We have a blue print already provided,why don't we jus follow it closely...

Now ur asking me how am I sure if d apostles didn't pray thru mary......

Soon I might start praying thru micheal Jackson to get to God since we can't tell if d apostles did pray thru prominent persons @ dat time...

Change this ur mentality o.....