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As much as I can say that in this our area most women are not confused when they say "care for me" but truly what is on their mind or meant is "spend cash for /on me" .and we guys need to see that. A girl that is interested in "take me out, eat this or that, see what she's putting on! but not intterested in counsels, advices,, books talk shows , family,friendship will probably fall this category ( Ala febi pa) .
It is obvious from most of our posts that guys actually wants ladies to demand for material things.because majoruty of replies are tends towards interpreting her can you take care of nme to being material things despite of all the assistance the guy had given the girl which we only see the material aspect of it even the OP . Meaning, we men mostly view our contributions into relationships in monetary terms . So when we could not perform any further we term the girl as been materialistic. .

@ pinkeret and agitator, wetin I dey talk be say , we don dey loose our ability to respect oda pipul and com dey tay for our own alone, that na the koko wey we dey fin am difficult to accept mae someone find k-leg for anything we do and tell us be am for english or anything at all we we do. Nothing spoil for someone finding k-leg for anything wey we do but in no mean say we must accept am total total but in no mean nothing and we no suppose dey aggresive when someone do that . U we sey ( I thank una)

@ OP , you are spot on and your immediate adversaries on the thread just proved you right and tried hard to drag you into the pit but you scaled through .   I think it's an issue of  either up-bringing, experience and what we decided to imbibe as as an individual.
We live in a world where the basics of communal living and responsibility is fast eroding and where we  have deranged Pride believe we are alpha and omega     accompanying that is the incorrigible nature.furthermore, we are fast loosing the intangible sense of respect for other poeple. Also I have observed that  we become tend to equate knowledge and eloquence with how much we are good at throwing abuses at each other.

If you are quick to abusing, defaming  and cursing people, you definitely be sensitive to innocuous  statements in the form of corrections and thus irrationally flares  defensively  at any coming in your direction.   .

Let also note that ( in my own view) accepting a correction, is quite different from someone correcting perceived flaws.

Most people has not grasp the fact that a court ruling is subject to appeal. How do we expect LASTMA operatives to behave when the behaviours ( actions) of most of us is not different from an area boy !. You need to see or review our attitude on the road, even the seemingly educated and well dressed individuals amongst us and you'll wonder!.
An average Nigerian and indeed Lagos driver or rider is lawless, inconsiderate and will only respect force. You need to seehow someone will abuse your generations or blar the horns because you delayed 5 seconds befoe moving in a hold up or "go slow". Worst still, someone is less than 10meters behind you and the street lights are on and hen has is full halogen ligts on into your face . Just to intimidate you to leave the road to alllow him .

This kind of behaviour and attitude in my own opinion cannot be cutailed or brought to book by a courteuos , smiling, meek looking , LASTMA operative but someone who can speak and act in the language we all understand . Force, intimidation etc. .

I cannot imagine any of the morbid accusers and cursers (my own engrish ) showing up in court when given a ticket or even paying the fines (officialy) for their ofences but will rather rain curses,abuses and critisize on Nl. This not to say that the LASTMA operatives are in all cases correct. ut in all , we need to develop a mutual respect for self,the law, the State Govt irespective of our state of origin or party afliations. Regard those guys too and you'll definitely get your deserved respect. Chikena.

Emotions , emotions and emotions!!!. This cannot help in decipering the contents of the interview. A christian though am I and will definitely want everyone around me to become Christians , likewise a Muslim willl want everyone to become a Muslim either but not forcefully through intimidation, deprivation and by violent. This I have seen happening with both Christians and Muslims but the more violent ones are mainly from you know where.
This guy revealed the immediate roots of the menace that is currently ravaging us.rather than delibrate on that, we continue to throw stones at all direction . the reason I said in one of my earlier post replies that, the future of this country is bleak with the so called literate nay educated youths not showing the temperament needed to analyse issues and proffer tangible pragmatic and less emotional solutions. The ability to remain calm and calculative in the midst of crisis of this magnitude is very important. And don't fuel more hatred by either insulting the faith of another person. you may only advice and appeal to the humanity in them rather than descend to the low abyss the aggressor is .
lets have a clean thread . this is too serious for some "Your Mama" game going on .

May be in the next galaxy

@ ayoobscom , are you a muslim, you comment in this thread is it in line with what Allah told you to do?  Judge yourself and pray barka Jumaa

Majority of us are clueless , rash, emotonal myopic and thus cannot be strategic, shows that we are indeed not educated but literate. These are the reasons why we the youths cannot mobilise a good universally benefiting course in this country and I weep at our future. Something in the positive is been widely scorned and cndemned . Say wetin, bomb , them, kill them shoot them, Obj is this and that, ratheer than learn and later analyse the outcome(s) of a move that is novel in this circumstance and use it, improve on it if there is success or discard it if there is failure as a refference for future we jump into conclussions like a novice in sexual play ( premature ejaculations) .
Some thing came out of that visit info that 1 , tthe familyis happy  as nobody has come to them before, do we realise hoew long that can go?. with a northern person who hardly see or shake hands with  big men. Don't we think that has actually opened a vista of opprtunity to another realisation that majoruty of these guys are not in Nigeria and infact may  not be 9jas amongst  many other security deductions . Please let us appreciate the what we 've got .
As for me thumbs up to Obj though not a total fan of his but when something is commendable do it. and learn from your eldwrs
and the FGN .

Abraham was neither . He was either a Chaldee or Persian .He did did not practice any of these two religions that we have today. A Muslim means some one that subjects himself to the will of Allah and a Christian is someone that behaves like Christ while a Traditional Yoruba bei;iever believes God is the most supreme and the dieties are means through which their prayers can be answered . All are after one thing knowing God. To the Muslims that will not stop at nothing to discredit what the Al-Qouran does not discredit answer it yourself if you are subjecting yourself to the will of Allah and to the Christian that condemns  heap curses and refuse to Love his neighbour ( Christian Muslims and neither of the two ) .
The truth as to me is what are we loosing our sanity for ?  Arabs and jews who di not give a poo about us. As an African, I am least interested in this politics we need to sieve out the truth out of it all and use it for our own.
Will I not be happy to have people pay pilgrimaga and earn lots of money and influence for my society than continue to propagate and perpetuate some other peoples cultures.

Arabs brought Islam and enslaved us up till the present, communities are upturned and their scions are Emirs and so on these days still perpetrating and like those who did not convert to their foreign religion were enslaved and sold into north africa and the middle east.
The Christian came and did their own thing too enslaving majority into Europe and America and foolish as we are we are still helping in perpetrating.
The old totally Unchriatian   and Unislamic war of the premedieval times between the west and the Arabs are still beeing fought by African Muslims and Christians alike and we refuse to see the damages these had done to Humanity.

I am surprised at the so called educated Africans nay Nigerian in the name of religion not concentrating on the spirituality of the religions and get to know more about God through their religion which has nothintg in real sense has to do with some histories of. Abraham sacrificed, the lesson inthat is Faith in God and ability to listen and change gear at any given time as instruction could change. It teaches praying without ceasing. Wheter God has a son or slaves does not matter their  or does it?

What is given to you hold on to it because it is on that you will be judged and not what is given to others. Why are Christians and Muslims in Nigeria and elsewhere greedy?
You need not discredit the other person before I  convert to your religion . This is what he / she believes and you don't have the right to  tell him it's not so.

IF ALL BELIEVE THAT GOD IS GREAT AND GREATER THAN ALL THEN, FACE YOUR OWN BELIEVE AND DO RIGHT SO AS TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE FOLLOW YOU ACCORDING TO THE EXAMPLES GIVEN RATHER THAN MAKING NOISE AND THREATENING THEM TO ACCEPT YOUR OWN WAY[/b].

I wish to say more cause I am tired of all these religious bigots from both sides if this side are wrong why God allowed them to remain? Abeg we no need this religious nonesense from these oversabi and over read religious jingoists. Haba

I don't know the reason why companies like Innosson and the resy=t cannot restrategise and ediversify the business into what is more down to earth . Like Face opined  earlier, their emphasis is on transporters and and SUV lovers and not what majority  families can go for.  Majority of car buyers are young families and people whose average income ranges between 120k - 300k monthly and majority of which will go for the 5 seaters , 4 doors sedan tokunbos.  This coys can manufacture  cars which will cost that 'll be elegant,safe and have the basic specs and sell it at a price of between 1.2 - 1.6 million . the kias of this world and even chinese cars are in the same range. With a good advert , after sales services and most importantly a good financing package, many people will opt for a reasonablw deductions from their salaries to pay for a good functional car, than rely on toks.this was done for most peugeot ,307, 206, 406, for the military and paramilitary organisationbs and the successes and mistakes in that exercise culd have been a good platform for improvement and getting customer feedback .
Govt has a place  a part to play but these companies (Innosson, peougeot , will  lot do in winning the prospective consumers confidence and also come up with products that will appeal to them and i terms of cost, reliabilty and flexibilty in payment and purchase.
Really I will loveto see Nigerians riding Nigerian made cars ,as I ride one parrtly made in Nigeria.

What happens after courting and there are unresolvable issues or one of both parties sees there's no need to go on , what's next? Back to square one

On the average in Nigeria we don't known the law and or we don't appreciate the process. Right from the aunty that gave the girl away to the Hajia has something to answer.
We should not presume guilty until declared and this sotr of sentiments in most cases prejudices findings of investigations.
We hardly do the proper and safe things when dealing on some issues. Even if thwe girl was brought with marks , the Hajiaa should have known betterand keep acopy of which is thumb printed( at the least ) by a witness in order to be on the safe side.
From whoever and for whatever the reason,this is wicked and and evil and should not be tolerated , all the WOMEN INVOLVED SHOULD ALL BE PUNISHED .

locked up my cousin in the police station for allowing his friends to assault a girl in our family house.

all4naija:
It surprises me to say of we youths nowadays are very myopic in our views and it is not going to help us that much! We rant about anything and what we don't have understanding of yet conclude it is the right thing to do. This money is pledged for poorer nations. There is no excuse in the idea because we have issues at home this pledge must be terminated - it doesn't work like that. If it were to be like that the millions of dollars we receive as aid from abroad can also be terminated due to the fact that those countries given them out to us have issues. There is no country on earth without issues. There are time these pledges are made and not meant on time but it will be accrued to balances of accounts. Japan still facing disasters of earthquake, typhoon and other natural disasters that ravaged the nation still gives out without given such excuse as having problem at home.

This aid money is not Nigerian problem but the inability of the fed. to create enabling environment to create jobs for the unemployed, incentive for foreign investments, get rid of corruptions, provision of basic infrastructure, etc. The money is there but to make proper use of it for the good of the people and nation is the major issue - not given of aid!

You've said it all, majority of youths and so called educated individuals are not but full 0f emptiness, most are so emotionally irrational in their response to issues. The US with a debt of over 2 trillion dollars still donates to all countries and community the world over, also with their high unemployement rate is still giving out visas as lottery to so many people. Greece with their economic probl;ems so serious that its affecting EU is still giving out scholarships worth 4million naira each to( at the last count ( three weeks ago) 42 Nigerians yearly . excluding other third world countries oo. We are talking of improving our international relevance and influence and some immature are raving , ranting and cursing, for God's sake, what kind of future are we going to have in this country with shallow minded puerile and myopic literates most of who parade self on NL.

good education

To those saying Obj should be in jail, I ask why?
Most of those criticising someone for whatever  no sectional but rather national decisions taken while holding political office as high as the president of the country will have to ask themselves how successful they've been managing the affairs of their girlfriend/boyfriend / sugar mummy's or daddy's,families,streets or town .   .Most here talking I guess are complete failures that cannot muster a sizeable support to do anything meaningful  

I've not seen a more committed Nigerian as Obj but not saying he is the most committed anyway. So when and if some of you get to where he been then you'll see how convenient easy and sweet to throw stones.

If a lady asks me ot, no big deal, to me, she's cool, however we need to know ach other better anyway, that'll determine how the future will be

All this people with wild allegations without a trace of evidence are meant to be ignored , they 've been and will continue to feed on our gullibility. If you have allegations based on his clout ,popularity and what he stands for, then he should come up with evidence so that we can all see.

Same sort of allegations were made by al-mustapha with no evidence so far to substantiate his claims. We've all been shouting and alleging corruption against IBB and many politicians but we never come up with concrete evidences but heresay. Untill we become scientific and more intellectual in our approach of things ,then we'll still be under and only be emotional in our judgements of issues and that will be the substrate upon which the likes of all our so called ethnic tribal or group leaders will continue to feed and all to nobody's interest and eventual no work done. ( motion with no movement).

@phuck NL good great pragmatic and intelligent advice to all.

@ sweetnectar, I want to ask if you are a Christian , then if yes, then do you believe the Holy Spirit exists and is poured out to all men and He does its work amongst men for the Glory of God to be manifest even today and forever after Pentecost? However if you don't believe that, then you'll be the first Christian to hold such opinion that I know of , although by me that would not make you a lesser Christian anyway. God bless you and increase you all the same, this is not the thread to discuss that and I am not a pastor either.

@ araboy, more like what it is supposed to be . thanks for the enlightenement.

When a word is spoken , the wise understands and make decision as much I don't dig politics .\, I remember that when Diya was leavimg Ogun State in 1985 AS gOVERNOR, HE LEFT OVER 100MILLION NARA IN THE COFFERS. which was about 40 million us dollars and the same goes in all states all over the country.

You may not like him for being in the military or from the north or for being a moslem but what it is that the man has got more to offer this country at this moment than any that came out and it is just a pity we lost the opportunity.
Let all these accusers come out with the evidence linking him directly to the violence that has plagued this country including the Boko haram? non so far, just speculations.

As Nigeria did not deserve Awolowo and Pat Utomi also we don't deserve Buhari and we will breath the fresh air.

To join hand s will be to those who intently wantyou to be with them but alas that's not the case here. May God conyinue to help us sha i this country.

@ Deols don't insult me na, haba besides your thinking, I'm not confused I have so many northern muslims friend and this is what I told them my pereception about the issue of servant or sonship. What faces someone backs another, is at inclined or angle to another.Remember , I said,it is wrong to judge cannot judge you by my standard What I said is again is by the thinking of a christian.( those who are led by the Spirit of God, have been given the power to be called the sons of God . Whether you agree with me or not, that is what I hold on to and that what gives me the peace with Islam and Moslems and that in no way reduce God.

This I haave conveyed to all I have ever met and discussed with, all my Moslem friends including some ustaz appreciate me fo4 that ( Except you are telling me they are just deceiving me). I encourages them to do fulfil their 5 prayer obligations in my single room apartment whenever they are on visit. If you said God does not have a child and nobody gave birth to Him good. My implying my sonship to God is an issue of being led by the spirit of God to do his will a christian and ( just like a servant) a muslim . So see the point of congruency in the 2 and be at Peace with yourself, your neighbour the earth and with your God. .

God is God and all what we do is just Him alone and alone that can declare who is for Him or not. tThink about this, Some Muslims and Christians likewise can be said to be not wanting oin their service to God , but you'' see real suffering in their lives does that mean God is not fair, God forbid, but He knows best, and on the contrary people whoyou could not say they are "Good Christians or Moslems and are neither experiencing any suffering of any sort. Likewise those who doesnot even believe in God . doing both bad and Good , do we saythat God is not their provider?.

You see and I believe, God is toooooo BIG for any one of us or religion to fathom or restricts to a particular way and thus that's why He will confound us right before our eyes in the simplest of things anytime we make an attempt to box Him as we do all the time in our rigidities in the 2 most popular religions . However He is faith and omniscient to accommodate our imperfections.

I believe that whatever way you want to Believe He is God as long as it is in the intent of Glorifying Him, then He will lift accept and lift you. Alafia,Peace, Shallom, Sallam to you and yours. Bro or sis

In the real sense oo., I think ist makes no difference, GOD is too BIG to care about religion , which is a way to make us feel we are doing swomething. Behold thwre are so many religion but there is only ONE GOD and CREATOR.

I hold the view that the issue stated that al musulima female should not marry a christian is just political. If in the Al qouran, there especially on the early chapters, the Christians and Jews are regarded as Al Ikthab ,( the people of the book) and there is injunction to consult them if there is any thing you don't understand. Then it shows an endorsement of those in these faiths. I now find it funny when Muslims will talk about the corruption of the Christianity based on non agreement with theology and the fundamentals of Christianity including the Sonship of Jesus and all that are led by the spirit of God. ( Me I believe as Prophet ( PBUH) was led by the Spirit of God through angel Gabriel to READ, then He is also a son of God, take it or leave it , that's what I believe). Theissue of corruption I know did not come from the Prophet pbuh but the later followers from whom the religion spread to the rest of the world and that propaganda endured till date.
You cannot judge me by your own standards, but by universal standards. HUMAN STANDARD.

We are humans first , created into a family in a society and we decide as times goes on what we want to believe. The Prophet (PBUH) was Arab first before he became a muslim and he wrote the Qouran in Arabic and not Yemeni nor Yoruba, nor German, nor Turkish etc Thus you become a Muslim or Christian or any by conviction followed by decision . So you appreciate and the primary identity God gave you. The tolerance in religion in Yorubaland is unsurpassed by anywhere else in the world, although it's eroding fast and I am using this medium to urge NLders who are Yorubas and indeed Nigerians to retrace their steps in this wise.
Marry who you unconditionally decide to love, happy and emotionally and all wise compatible with and let there be no hindrance based on religion.

What marginalization for God's sake, is it the issue of political appointments ? the truth is we need to think deeper in this country. Are we no more agreeing that what part of the country comes from doesn't matter but competency and qualification for the job? The truth is that if there's not enough representation in the government, then it depicts the non relevance ( real or abstract)  of the group . The next thing is to regroup and re-strategize.

I will not however blame those elderly people anyway, they know and understand what they are there for .
@ ypad , you've already said it.  God help you

Yoruba elders ,well nice try on their part. Let them do what they deem suitable and fit for the situation but me i don't and will never believe Yorubas are marginalised.
@ chino wetin wetin, I hardly resort to abuse or debasing any human being, however, I doubt if you are a man or have any semblance in your soul to a man , as you are of no difference to a Boko haram member and the middle east terrorist.  I believed you 've been so 4cked up by a Yoruba man that your response on threads on NL  depicts a cursed human being and you are having the same hatred  for Yorubas just like adolf hitler had for Jews. The end of which is obvious. You are undeserving to be a Nigerian and we don't want people like around. You are of no good but evil and hatred and you shall reap  in good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over.
Anyway, may whatever you worship as God heal you , your soul and spirit for you to progress . As you are going in life, woe betides you if you use anything tied to Yoruba land including stepping on the soil even if it is in your relatives House (God bless them). You stinking unrepentant ethnic bigots

Either should at any given time depending on who is disposed to at the time as I think the relationship is a favour rendered by either to the other.

Yoruba to Igbo = Ajokuta ma mumi (literaily meaning can eat stone without water ) . reffering apu as stone.

I have been someone that have interest in all religion and though a christian and used to wonder why Yorubas in the olden times used to call muslims Imole( Meaning hard/ dificult intension). and when i grew up I saw a lot of Muslims dispelling the conotation and changed it to Elesin Islam or Musulumi . Good. I have however noticed that ther's hardly a general condemnation from the most muslims even some up north who are educated beeing sympathetic to their cause but never condemn it meaning approval or endorsement.
If some will come out to say they were not acting according to the teachings of the Al Qouran and the prophet (SAW) but majority are silent and quietly endorsing then I want to say,i the overt condemnation of the few are just political and not the reality. Want someone to fully convince me again the Peace in Islam.If you have peace but not with your neighbours and you continually and persistently wish them evil[b][/b] then I wonder.
Notice you tell some Muslims As sallam a le kun, they will hardly answer you or will answer you wa le ka instead of waha leku sallam

I want to believe that all those 5that responded to this thread are educated. You can be arrested over any offense or crime.If it is even a dog or an ant that has the authority of the government to arrest you, he should,and iot becomes another offense to resist a lawful arrest. It is unfortunate that the guy died however had it been in a saner society, the dead gtuy will be tried in absentia and sentence will be passed on him.
So we need to remove sentiments from reasoning, the guy killede himself and nobody shopuld be blamed for that. He suppose to have known better. Do you just look and laugh when an arrested offender decides to escape from your custody Even if you never reach overseas, you never watch movies from there what law enforces do in such situation? Abeg

area boys or not, what kinda people do you expect to be employed for such jobs? You guys are not even happy that some people who could have been amongst the unemployed are now gainfully employed and doing the necessary dirty job you are I will never think of doing .Some of us are just pathetic in our criticisms. Most in their home states are not even close to what they get in Lag
Fasola is not perfect nor the govt , however, when something is good do not derail and abuse it praise and encourage it and stop playing politics.
Lastly, promote law and order rather than endorse lawlessness.

rehearsal . Puerile

1. China phones
2. Chinko phones
3.Chinks phones
4. Huawei phones
 5. Other brands (Nokia, Samsung, Sony erricsson ,Lg,bb)

PAY BACK IS A BITCH. My question, why now and not earlier abi we no get liver again. I think it's asign of our international confidence