₦airaland Forum

DelphiOracle:
I didn't say science I said evolution. Luke in the Bible was a doctor (scientist) so u can guess how he will treat the sick not with prayers only .....smiles....

I take drugs when I am sick. I am not a fanatic

This is what I don't understand:
- the scientific method brought theories that resulted in understanding the origin of diseases, etc... most people accept it to some extent.
- it brought understanding the origin of species (including humans)... many religious people balk at the idea
- it explains the age of the Earth, makes intelligent observations about past life (dinosaurs), yet that line of thought is rejected because it conflicts with a text written when people had no idea about fossils.
- it also resulted in powered human flight (airplanes and jetpacks)... I'm surprised the religious didn't condemn it as demonic ;-)

The same scientific method gives a rational, observable reason for conjoined twins, yet some folks attribute it to sin, and claim that these natural events (1 out of 50,000 or so births) only started occurring 6000 years ago because of one particular pair of ancestors. This has me scratching my head.

Did you know that people in Ancient Greece did not believe the existence of tides? They spent all their lives in the Mediterranean Sea (which doesn't experience noticeable tides). The few who travelled out to the Atlantic ocean tried to describe it upon their return, but were called mad (because of course that sort of thing doesn't exist... won't want to sin against Poseidon would we?)

Also, allow me this last one: "Moses used knowledge of tides to ensure a safe crossing for the Israelites - instead of waiting for a miracle, "
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2868352/How-Red-Sea-really-parted-Moses-used-knowledge-tides-ensure-safe-crossing-Israelites-instead-waiting-miracle-expert-claims.html

Give it a read... I know I'm drifting off topic, but I just thought it was an interesting take on this classic miracle.

DelphiOracle:
it is either u believe the creation story in the Bible or not. If u try to mix evolution n Bible teaching together, u confuse urself.

There was never never a conjoined twin in any of God's creation be it man or animal before the fall of man. Simple.

... sigh... you don't know that. At any rate, you're right: one can't mix evolution and bible teaching. From one we learn how to create vaccines and antibiotics; from the other we learn to treat disease with prayer.

DelphiOracle:
every thing was perfect until Adam n his wife spoils the show. Since then mankind have been walloping in imperfections. Any deformity from birth is as a result of human imperfection.

Please don't forget conjoined twins have happened for almost 1 billion years in all species... the story of Adam and Eve is merely 6000 years old.

Simplyleo:
Nawao.
Orisirisi


In the second picture, the one lying down looks like a female.
How this conjoined thingy dey be sef? They must just be same sex. I don't even understand.
But if their parents are poor, how e go come be like?

Two types of twins:
- identical (monozygotic) as in a single zygote splits into two (i.e. one fertilized ovum splits during the course of development).
- fraternal (dizygotic), as they are two separate zygotes (i.e. two different ova, fertilized independently). Technically, these are siblings in the normal sense, just that rather than 9+ months in between, they are just a few hours or days of each other (in terms of when they were conceived).

Conjoined twins happen when the zygote does not split completely, so there remain shared pieces, which eventually become shared organs, limbs, etc. They are genetically identical and always the same sex, since they come from the same zygote (one ovum, one sperm, with all the same chromosomes).

Considering how infrequently conjoining happens, I'm always amazed at the miracle of life. RIP to the pair.

I sometimes wonder if the occurrence of conjoined twins was the origin for the taboo among Ibgos...

People saying China this, China that... on this forum alone we have daily pictures of snake, bush rat, or some other wild animal being killed for pepper soup. In fact, I'm surprised no plague originating in Naija yet.

It's like there a fire in a major market in Nigeria every week. But this is rainy season na... abi the electric current too much?
What is happening? Sorry for their losses... chai trying to make a living in this covid period, and fire comes and burns your livelihood.

JESUSisKING1:
Him/her/she/he/his/===them/they
This is because some people that God created as Males want to turn themselves to females while some females see themselves as males. Even some don't see themselves as male or female.(neutral gender)
All these are the gimmicks of satan to distort the the original work of the almighty jehovah
One day , all of us will stand before Jesus and give account of our days while on earth

Actually, there are tons of languages, covering nearly 4 billion people, that don't have gender-specific pronouns. Some of them include Igbo, Yoruba, Chinese, Japanese. They have words for man/woman/male/female... but no equivalent for he/she, him/her.

To wit: He/She and Him/Her: in the following languages
Igbo: o (or ọ) and ya
Yoruba: oun and awon
Chinese: tā
Japanse: kare and hito

These I know because I studied. I'm also aware that Turkish, Persian, Bengali, Malay, Ewe, Swahili, and many others also lack gender-specific pronouns.

I sure hope God doesn't condemn all those speakers for not inventing gender-specific pronouns

mcdokwe:
Is our President aware?

Not yet, but he will be shocked

Oh boy see money! How can we be sure he is worth this much? Abi did he 'amplify' his net worth with the aim of 'filling in the blanks' during his tenure as governor?

Mehn, sense will not kee you. After all na naija we dey

Jahwinaboy:
I agree with you but how best do we sensitise and orientate our youths so that we all can be on the same page? Got any idea on this?

I dunno oh... they paid far more attention to the antics of the BBNaija and spent 7.2billion Naira on votes:

https://businessday.ng/lead-story/article/organisers-of-big-brother-naija-rake-in-n7-2bn-from-votes/

So the challenge is to organize politics like BBNaija

Jahwinaboy:
Revolution now, we don't want to align together. On this platform some persons are encouraging us to STAND UP and many are not interested. We are doing ourselves more harm than good by Keeping Quiet

Revolution is not necessary... the population has the opportunity to change their leaders, every 4 years. If people can't be bothered to choose leaders based on their capabilities now, what makes you think revolution would change anything? It would just be a different, violent way to pick mediocre leadership.

All we need is for the under-40 population to get their heads straight. They are the largest voting bloc in this country, yet they abscond on their responsibility to nominate, promote, and elect good leaders. The last election had the likes of Sowore, Chike Ukaegbu, Donald Duke, Fela Durotoye, yet none of these got up to 1% votes.

When people, especially youths, complain bitterly about bad leaders, I can't help but feel angry. They have the power to choose, yet refuse to do so.

SmartProf:
These are all evidences of when a government decides to punish it's people. Of what benefit is it to Nigerians that we are an oil producing nation? Meanwhile most of these top shots in government don't even use their monies to fuel their vehicles o, it's our national budget that fuels their vehicles and generators...what a shame!

The government that is punishing the people is the government that was elected by the people. When the people get tired of the punishment, they are free to vote wisely next time, from LGA chairmen, state assemblies, National Assembly, to president.

I don't have any answers, and I don't want to insult any religion, because these are beliefs deeply held by people; I just wish people would realize that other faiths are just as valid as theirs - because there's no real objective difference.

fortran12:
Only one has several books written at different periods talk about the same subject

So have the different parchments and writings by Egyptians - their writings span from before 4000BC to around 30BC (a span of nearly 4000 years) by lots of authors. As for the Maya, their writings span from around 2000BC to 1700AD (3,700 years).
Taoism, Confucianism, Buddhism, Shintoism, among others, predate Christianity, and are collectively still practiced by nearly 3 billion people. I really doubt the Christian pantheon is the sole right answer to humanity's questions of: "who are we; why are we here; what's our purpose?"

Here's a breakdown based on a wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religious_populations

31.4% Christianity
23.2% Islam
15.4% Hinduism
7.1% Buddhism
22.9% Unaffiliated/Other

It's awful rich for just over 30% of the population to insist their way is the true way, and condemn the remaining 70%. Just live and let live, because we're all asking the same questions about Existence, and have come up with different ways to answer them.

Very well done! I didn't want it to end...

ObaOfIgbos:
And who says
Krishna
Buddha
Muhammad
Etc are not real and doesn't save?

MsAllison:
Jesus is the only way

According to one book. There have been many myths, carvings, paintings, tablets, and books, in human history - each of them confident in their correctness. There will be more after we are long gone. What guarantee does anyone have that this one, this time, is the right one?

IfGodbeforus:
So many Mysteries in the world are being unraveled in these times.
The End is truly at Hand.

But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
Daniel 12:4

Brethren, be on alert! Watch and Pray so you don't fall a prey in this injury time..

Anytime from now..... we will be taken away

So a burial ground is an ancient mystery and sign of the times? Good thing it wasn't Nigerians that discovered the pyramids of the Egyptians or the Mayans... we would have freaked out!

winnah:
Regardless.... Is stupid of him to make this stupid statement.... Where was Ghana all this while... When the title document wasn't obtain?? But they paid for the land... And you didn't issue the title document?

What I expected this government to have done... Is to shutdown Ghana high commission office here and sent their ambassador home.. Give them a week ultimatum to rebuild that structure within a week...

This is how to flex muscle as giant of Africa... No country can try that with USA regardless their oversight...

Mr patriot, please take am easy. Nigeria HC was invited severally to complete their documentation, but they ignored the requests. Next step is to demolish the illegally-built structure. That's when Nigeria realized Ghana was serious.

Nonetheless there are at least three things involved in land:
- Bill of sale (or something similar)
- Title document (which I think is same as CofO (Nigeria failed to obtain this)
- Construction Permit (Nigeria built without obtaining this)

Finally, big up to Ghana jare - better country - they've been trying to teach us how to do things correctly, but we're feel too big to follow simple procedures

Why do I get the feeling that 20 years ago - one official was given funds to collect CofO and building permit, but the money somehow missed road?

Wise choice... lawyer for chop your moni for nothing. Not to mention EFCC will suddenly take interest in your matter, as per Baba's modus operandi

skimena:
I can't support masturbation or rape. Never. When u're Hot and you are not married. Just Read your Bible. Pray, sing praise and worship to God.

You won't even last 3 minutes before the urge will disappear.

OP, what problem are you trying to solve? I mean, when I'm feeling like it (which is a feeling God instilled in people, BTW), I just call up someone on rotation, or head down to a point and kill. Sometimes my provider visits on her own accord and also makes plantains and beans, or egusi and pound (two of my favorites). No need to get dramatic with all the reading or singing

But if this is advice specifically for this aunt Coro season... I can sorta see your point...

favinvest:
she said. and I quote...
I don't deal with single boys, they will f.uk ur destiny away from you and later give u stories or small koko but married men, as far u don't disturb their wives, they cant f.uk for long because they have to also satisfy their wives and after
the show, the reward u get its like armed robber salary.. that is why I nor dey find young boy unless e dey serious to marry me.. if na just
to f.uk and go then I prefer married men.

She's so right... I've heard some girls say this too... small small boys are not worth being with since they too just want to chop and clean mouth. Why not collect something for your hard work? Plus married men know how to take care of women, they are more gentle, etc. I got an education from these girls.

It's like people are forgetting that every second or third wife started off as side chick.

See finishing!

Please start composing one for when PMB leaves...

chrischukszy01:
When will dey fly oshomole back to Edo state?

Fly ke? At the rate things are disintegrating for him, he can only afford peace mass transit...

This is party internal politics... there's no law governing what committees a party creates or dissolves. The only criteria are: the party is duly registered, and its executive committee has federal character.

Baba Osho, please save your money and face other things. Maybe instead of spending on lawyers and court fees, start a few companies to employ youths in your state.

Eh serious? Fatal as in somebody died?

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Mtchew these writers sef... fatal means somebody dies... this was not a fatal accident.
Hope all's well sha... she even fall inside gutter join. That will leave a mark.

Cars can always be fixed, lives cannot.

I was even wondering where Cee C was lately... Nairaland no dey carry her matter anymore like before.

I wish his well-wisher would do exactly that... take that money to do some good in the community.
If they want, they can snap a picture of their charity giving, so they can still show their well wishes to the governor.

How will one tolerate the abuse of a child under their own roof? For that matter my sister's child? Haba!

If you know you can't take care of someone else's child and show them love and affection, why take it on?
Ironically, this uncle is not unique... this country is full of people who maltreat others' children - whether step child, maid, nephew or niece.

Same people who go to church or mosque to glorify their creator and pray for underserved favor are the same putting hot iron on children.

bigfish3k:
Stop writing rubbish
Which igbo politician has ever told you that he wants Biafra

After all OPC did in SW, has igbos written any long editorial while yorubas can't rule because of that
After all that you people did against igbos in the last elections in Lagos by flogging voters , no igbo has ever written any long editorial why yorubas can't rule because of that but you lots are justifying your bad actions

Brother please; genti:

First - if anybody claimed that "Yorubas deserve this or that", I would give them the same answer: work at it, not make noise about what you think you deserve. Other parts of the country have been far more politically astute than Igbos, and that's why they have the majority of the power.

Second - the desire for Biafra is perceived to be universal. In other words: most of the people who would make good allies are being turned off by secessionist rhetoric which (it must be said) Igbo politicians have been reluctant to denounce. If you're not seen to be speaking out against something, your silence amounts to consent (in the mind of the public).

Third - unlike SW and NC folks who work behind the scenes to consolidate power, what I hear from the SE is mostly: "we should be allowed to..." What I want to see is SE politicians (and agitators) working silently to get power. It's not by noise or by complaining... it's by building alliances.

Fourth - I'm not from the North, nor am I from SW. If we can't take constructive criticism from our own people, what do we gain? "Stoop to conquer" appears to be a saying lost on us.

Fifth - I'm still very upset that the Oba of Lagos asked us to "go an jump into the lagoon", and have refused to build anything or add any value in Lagos. I hope others from SS and SE will get tired of being insulted and develop our own place, and strengthen our political standing nationally. This is done with hard work, foresight, and dedication to the cause. Not by posting every other week that we deserve this or that. Ironically, by asking, it shows we're the weak ones (politically).

It's the right of every Nigeria to produce a president. Let the candidates who want to run for president connect themselves to the right people, say the right things, raise enough money, and convince their party to pick them.

If an Igbo person - in spite of education, wealth, progressive attitude, pan-Nigerian support, cannot lift themselves to be a party's front line runner, that's that person's fault.

Constantly bringing up secession, antagonizing your hosts (in Lagos) with "we built this city", constantly disrespecting Northern sensibilities, being patronizing to minorities in the SS... those are not good ways to earn pan-Nigerian support. You can be brilliant without rubbing it in people's faces, constantly bragging. Instead, people like Baba Nwobodo should be working in the background, silently oiling the wheels for an Igbo presidency.

Of course, instead of listening to what soldiers and civilians are saying, Buhari and co will lock them up, just for speaking the truth that we all know. It's not as if any of these people are lying or inventing stories... they know what's on ground and are calling on their president to pay attention to what is wrong in the country.

A good leader would have said: "I understand that you feel this way, you said this and this is wrong, and that one is not working. Here are the things we're doing to solve the issue. We know we have many places for improvement, and are taking your voices into consideration"... Does this make him less of a man, or won't it endear him to his people?

Does he want the country to boil over completely? Activitst, protestors, soldiers, ministers... all are saying the same thing, but Baba just no send...