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The price is okay, you might not even use up to that.


The only problem is tori go enter the 1k contribution. Prepaid wahala is the next thing after house rent matter.


The way we do it is an electrician will run the pump to everyone's meter, like an individual socket and then you rotate the pumping. Either weekly or daily.

My self and neighbor we rotate the pumping we are just 2 an electrician did the connection we rotate weekly. Because we are two, we used a change over switch that is outside accessible to all, so even if you are not home and it's your turn your neighbor can put in the water for everybody. This method can't work if you have neighbors that are terrible. But the 2 of us are respecting ourselves.


Best you guys contribute and run it this way.

Taking care of kids ehn you have to be extra watchful, at alert, careful and prayerful.

It's both a physical and spiritual thing, a job in its own class. E no easy mehn, our parents tried walahi

erico2k2:
Ok my Bad, your handle did not specify Genda hence my response. back to subject, I still blame govt cos they have more to do instead of rely on individuals to do more. Just take a look at the roads leading to these places where commerce take place, its eye sore, you might puke if you do not have strong stomach. Somewhere so much money xchange hands,

I understand but the problem is these wastes are not being poured by spirits it's we Nigerians that dispose it there not the govt we have issues in this country joor.

naptu2:
The typical problems

There is a system in place in Lagos. You need to adhere to this system in order not to get into trouble.

There are private waste collectors that have been licensed by the State Government. You are expected to choose one of these licensed collectors (generally known as PSP) and use them. They give you a bill and you pay at the bank. The State Government takes a small percent of that money and the rest goes to the PSP.

1) You will get into trouble if you don't choose a PSP.

2) You will get into trouble if you don't pay the bill.

3) You will get into trouble if you don't use the PSP.

4) Continuing from 3 above, it is illegal to use cart pushers, burn your refuse or dispose of it in any other way. You must use the PSP.

5) You must provide a waste bin (either by yourself or you can buy one from LAWMA) and you'll get into trouble if you don't have the right size, type (in some cases the bin must have wheels) or number of bins. You must also ensure that you clean your environment and put the waste properly in the bin.

Tokunboh Wahab is the Lagos State commissioner for the environment and water resources.


These are the things that usually lead to premises being sealed.

Solid points sir. I doubt people know these things.

just one slight modification though, there are PSPs assigned to all areas in Lagos.

So you practically don't have to choose, there's one assigned to your axis and they don't trespass each other's assigned area.

erico2k2:
Bro agrigate Pick ups wont work, some of teh wastes from those dealers down there are larger than what a single person can pick in a hand held bin.The reason why I am talking to you like this is cos Im very close to few stake holders in them places and I use to import with them early 2000s in a place called promise land in ladipo, you might k now it, most time Im in Nigeria I still go there to visit them people. Take for example, something so simple as building toilet in Ladipo the local govt can't do, is this not shameful people have to wee on the street and poo at any hidden spot or in broad day light at the canal. The surprising this is why just they build toilet enroute the canal. The whole system is wrapped around corruption that's all I can say in the part of the government not IGBO, some here already think Im Igbo with their myopic reasoning cos Im thinking outta the box

I am female oo, I am not even talking about handheld bin, the aggregation I am talking about is all the wastes a put together in a specified location agreeed and a compactor comes to pack them.


I understand your grouse with the govt but you see on this waste manage matter especially with the markets we are generally to blame.

AfroKnight:
But the waste management of all public spaces is the task of LAWMA. They should do their job.

The job is being done that's why we are on this thread.

Enforcement is also part of that job.

erico2k2:
Now you are understanding my point, Moreso the traders pay individual Taxes to both Local and state government Your local govt contracted LAWMA to clean up, however LAWMA is demanding extra money which they have no rights to do ALl the Local government needs do is provide an area in front or back of the market for traders to dump rubbish at closing time each day market will be clean. Within the market areas Im sure the traders/Associations can police that but outside it they cannot. It will also amaze you to know that all rubbish outside of the markets are not always from teh said markets.
In PHC where I have Biz at choba, WIke instruction is for all Biz to put thier rubish in the middle of the central reservation of the roads, and the River state version of lawma come to collect it at night.

The bolded is a wrong assertion, it's not the way it works at least in Lagos.

erico2k2:
Ofcos I know about being Engage, what Im saying is this, did the government fulfill thier own part of teh Engagement? did they provide refuse collection points?The traders are paying for this service to the govt.Are they not same people who contracted Lawma,Can I also aske you beween Alaba. Computer village have you seen any Container for refuse collection stationed out there? In my town in Delta state they have an open top container outside the market, everyone goes and dump their rubbish there in the evening or on thier way home and the council clears it early in the morning. If the government provides this kind of rubish point wont this solve the problems? I have been at places like Ladipo just as early 2018, I saw 1st hand how they enforce Environmental sanitation.

I just explained the way it works to you,

For E. G. FEDAN Plaza in Alaba has its own waste point, other plazas have where they aggregate their waste for pick up by PSP.

Good you used computer village as an example, have you wondered why computer village has not had environmental infarction issues for some time and they do generate a whole lot of waste and it's been carted.

There are arrangements for aggregation and pick up of waste in all those places.

They all have their arrangements,

Some you will see big containers like Oyingbo etc some other markets too, some you might not see because there are arrangements for aggregation and pickup.

erico2k2:
This is where the people should ask Lawma some serious question, I know a very good friend of mine that owns a shop there or rather does import Biz there [b]the get taxed monthly for environmental fees which is meant for evacuation of Rubish [/b]Now Lawma would leave the rubbish in the roads whither the traders have paid taxes its responsibility of the gvt to provide dumping site and evacuate rubbish promptly ie every nights. In the Uk we have loads of street market, once the market shuts down people clear their rubbish to the front of the market and the council comes to collect all the Rubish. Its never the responsibility of the traders to take their rubbish to rubbish tips or dumps miles away.

Understand that the agency will not deal with an individual shop in the market, it's always with the association. The association will be billed a lump sum and it pays the govt.

So your friend is paying to the association monthly.

And Yes the wastes are always being carted, the problem is always when associations don't pay or traders don't follow their agreed waste disposal means.

AfroKnight:
Hope he is prepared to shut down all other markets in Lagos too.

Also, LAWMA directors need to answer queries. What were they looking at?

If you know how many time these markets would have been engaged and dialouged with you will understand.

Its a Nigerian thing, until force is applied we won't shift, sebi Oyingbo has been reopened after they complied.

erico2k2:
Can I ask you something, DId the state provide a central Area where waste from the market can be dumped?

Which of the markets?

All the markets are duly engaged and have their arrangements for waste pickups. Different arrangements ask you will get the info.

E. G Alaba Int has different associations different plazas and different excos for all these their associations and plazas all of them are individually engaged by the PSP operator and even the state agency involved they all have their arrangements for their waste management.

They can not say they never saw it coming non of the executives of the places sealed can't say that.

Same applies for tradefair


Some other markets like food markets especially have larger bins placed in a strategic place in their market.

The truth is if you are into waste management in this Lagos you will know all these actions are justified.

All these markets have been engaged in dialougue over time yet no change.

My own is residents not paying for their own individual flats wastes should be next. Those pouring wastes when caught should be next.


We must all have sense by fire by force.

Force does it for Nigerians.
At least we are not in election season, let the right thing be done abeg.

SINisSIN:
I just see all these shor shor as women wahala. Women don't like themselves just eye service. When there is a deep friendship love, my child is yours, yours is mine.

I have called a friend of mine before to tell him to please send his son to my office ASAP as I will be needing him to run some errands for me. Within 30mins, guy man show. My own little kids see this my friend's children as their older siblings and most times they are always together.

Reason why fake love is everywhere. We show gratitude outside but deep down, we don't even value the person we are calling friends or spouses.

If it is a random Person, op can be blamed but in this case, op claimed they are childhood friends hence the closeness shouldn't be a thing of doubt.

Women and their wahala sha.

Loool you really think women don't love themselves.

The bolded is also my stance, would rather ask the parent for permission.

My own is I have called a senior family friend friend to take permission to send her 17 now 18year old an errand to get a cake for me. She's even a junior friend to my mum.


So this notion of its disrespectful to call the mother to send the child an errand seems very weird to me. Very very weird. I could have called that girl I mentioned directly she would still have gone to inform her mum but I told her mum first, she just called me and said mumsie said you want to send me somewhere. It's courtesy If you ask me.

I find it strange that some people are off the opinion that a so called friend cannot call to ask if their child can help run an errand though. It really is a Yes or No situation. Also the mother had told you her no without words when the girl didn't show up.



Anyway OP cut them off, helping people in Nigeria always has its own issues, make everybody dey their lane.

Pick her call but cut them off, you don't even need quarell, you are pissed obviously but this life no hard just dey your dey, you sef will have peace of mind.

What a thread!!!


Ewww

It seems it has always been there though I don't think I read that word as a child in the older version of queen primer.


I have the newer version one I bought in recent times I will check it.

All these small small girls these days get mind sha, possibly she thought you will toast her or something as you have gotten familiar with her.


As for OP you need to control your emotions, chasing a teenager for misyarning? Naa that's low, your friend handled it far better.

Na real wa. That man in the video is really pissed.

2breast4me:
Lagos State government is 100% responsible for the dirtness of Lagos. They have refused to install center where people can dump thier refuse and lawma go there to collect the refuse and dump it where they can treat it. As long as they don't do this people will continue to dump their dirt anywhere

What are you saying pls, which center? The residents are totally responsible. Are PSPs not assigned to everywhere in Lagos, is it not the same residents who do not give them trash and carry their wastes to the road or swamps like this woman or they totally refuse to pay for the services?


Do you know the debts some of these PSPs have incurred by non payment of residents?

As long as we want free service for everything including waste this will continue to happen.

The problem with waste management in Lagos is residents do not want to pay for refuse management, they want it to be free hence they carry their waste to the median and junctions.

Same with petty traders, shops even markets.

Can govt bear the cost of these, no way.

Until a clamp down is done on erring residents we keep having the same problem.

Even some of those viewing this thread are culprits.

LookBeautifulPe:
Thank you so much for this

You are welcome.

In recent times I have used this combo
Cinnamon
Cumin
Bayleaves
Star anise
Fennel
Fenugreek
Nutmeg
Ginger and garlic
Rosemary.

Use them to boil your meat and use the broth for the stew. You can also sprinkle the combo on the stew direct.

First stir fry your garlic and onions in oil on medium heat, there's a sort of aroma it adds to it.




Alternatively for stews you can get curry masala from Tiger foods it has most of the spices above apart from star anise and no MSG/Salt in that product, doesn't taste sweet or salty at all.

Just around 15 years back we will pass Agbara - Atan then to papalantoro to link sagamu bypass and move on to Ijebu ode. Used to be a very smooth journey, avoiding Mile 2, Oshodi entirely.

We would stock up very sweet and designed sugar cane at papalantoro area.

You can't try passing that papa route now.

Ogun and the bad roads are a big wahala, how the successive govts allowed the roads to degenerate to the terrible states simultaneously is what I don't get.

Federal road, state roads, same issues kilode

Daystar7:
What right have you to tell him to shut up and then try to force your view on him?
How is Jerusalem Palestine ancestral land? You say religion is beclouding his sense of judgement but that's a perfect description of your view. So from where did Israel wage war against same Palestine/philistines? From where did Israel go into slavery in Egypt? Where was Moses born? Wasn't he a Jew? Which waters did his mother put him in covered in a basket, where did pharoah daughter find him? Did Egypt change location cos that's what you're trying to say? Where did they return to after slavery in Egypt? Didn't they possess some of the land God promised them. Canaan never existed? Ashdod, Ashkelon, Jebusites, Jordan, rivers Tigris and Euphrates didn't exist? So where exactly did Moses and Joshua possess and killed the nephtalims ( giants with six fingers and toes). So Nazareth never existed and Jesus wasn't born there? Was Jesus Christ not a Jew?
Y'all need to learn how to think before talking or typing shit

This is my only problem with all this matter when they say Israel never existed and I have thought about it several times and read some stuffs too.

I look at the current map and see these same biblical locations and it makes sense,the proximity of the current location to Egypt, most of these stuffs tally with what we have read. And the question I still ask is where then is the location of biblical Israel? Where are all the locations we read about?
Is present day Egypt not biblical Egypt? And then the new testament, there are also familiar names we see in present day Isreal, were these locations renamed or what?
It's food for thought.






Anyway I hope those beating the drums of war here can see what it looks like.

Lots of nannies need to be trained in early childhood education, even some preschool teachers need the training.

A 2 year old can miss the potty it's not really out of place for a child that age.

Children are different, even children from the same womb respond to potty training differently.

Every mother knows this, early childhood educators know this too.

Sebi both parents are there

They should ride on

What a headline.

Good news

I just hope the corrupt officials which are also Nigerians and might also be viewing this thread won't sabotage this efforts. They will not like this.

They can never like this.

It's those commenting in the video for me


'E ja ki won yin ni ibom ki won Pa danu'

'Nkan ti won ma shey fun naa niyen'


To show how pissed off they were.

Nigerians are the problems of Nigeria.

Completely naked That's bad,

Indoor clothes still okay

No that's not good, my 5 year old son knows it's wrong to enter when mum is dressing, all I need to say is I am dressing up and he's stops by the door but my daughter comes in.


Walking about naked in a house is weird sha.

Team puff puff, almost every Saturday

Still made it today.

My take on this issue is Nigerians abroad should stop giving any form of advice from those here concerning japa matter.

You will always be termed a hater and enemy of progress, know this have have peace.


Age
Technical skill and
Finances.

The three things you said your friend listed seems right but he's a hater because he told you what he feels is the truth.

Instead of you to find a way to solidify the 2 you can change before moving you are calling him enemy of progress.