₦airaland Forum

ifele:
Things are not as easy as you say ROSSIKE. $2000 is not enof to set up business in Nigeria. Talk less of renting a

room to operate the business in. Only if the owner of the $2000 wants to be hawking cheap products at Alagbon or

Teguosho or near Costain Area. Becos when you do the calculations there is no profit in spending $10 000 to get to U.S

AND not get there at all or have $2000 and its not enof even to rent a place to sleep. ROSSIKE poverty is an issue

amongst Nigerians even those abroad. Its a human no-mercy situation here and at home.  If you have a reliable

friendship safety net you might just survive hard times. You are talking dollars people are talking NAIRA. How many

people see or use US dollars everyday in Nigeria?  Government gotsa help the struggling people, people gotta help

each other and themselves. O da ki a ma fun omo eniyan ni anu. O dara julo.

Governments never give anything for free. They take from the people and redistribute (organize things).

Unfortunately, we dont have that in Nigeria. Hopefully we will get there because even great nations like America have had lots of issues in their past.

What we need is people to lead pressure groups, organize them and channel them for different purposes.

NOSSIKE's $2000 solar experiment was just an example. So people should stop quoting that and listen to what the guy is really saying.

I'm sure you can come up with even better ways to improve Nigeria than the things he said.

@ROSSIKE

I am with you on this; and so are many other Nigerians on this forum. Criticism should always be constructive. When you complain without any good reason behind it, we call it nagging.

The light up Nigeria initiative will hopefully yield good fruit.

netotse:
are you sure? you dont know ppl that will sit around and insult politicians all day and then go to the office the next day and inflate the price of an ink cartridge by 100%?

Just like i've been saying all along. A lot of us contribute so much to the corruption we have in Nigeria. If you so many people not truthful about little things, how do we expect not to have a corrupt government?

Some people will say it happened the other way around, corrupt leaders are causing the frustration and corruption of the people.

But i say, its just like the story of the chicken and the egg. Which came first? IMO, i think everything is connected. and we all need to do our parts rather then trading blames.

Princek12:
But it started from a complaint, though; and a lot of the people who you call wasteful naggers probably helped transform that complaint into a movement. You can't in one breath criticize complainants and implicitly acknowledge their efforts in transforming a complaint into a movement. And most movements start from somewhere--usually from complaints.

I agree with you that progress starts when u see something wrong, acknowledge it and make complaints. But i also agree with the poster that with most Nigerians, that is as far as it goes.

The government has failed us, but a lot of us, as citizens have also failed the government. Trying to identify who is culpable is like the story of the chicken and the egg? Which came first.

A lot of people will say the only thing they can do is complain, that they are no match for the government. But if you see your contribution (after making a complaint) as a drop of water, and others do the same, it wont be long before we have a mighty ocean that will sweep any government off its feet.

We keep thinking we can't do anything without the government but we should make the government realize that they can't do anything without us.

I think that is the poster's point of view minus the insults.

Princek12:
To all these folks who are telling people to "do" something rather than complaining, well, complaining is one of the many ways of doing something. What else do you want some people to do? Go to Aso Villa and stage a coup? Complaining, aka protest, is one of the most efficacious ways of effecting change; at least, it is better than being a spectator and being silent. Look at how the complaints of the posters on light up Nigeria made it to CNN, culminating in a CNN anchor's interview with Mrs Rebrand, Dora Akunliyi.

I think light up Nigeria went from being a complaint to being a movement. We need more projects like that and not wasteful nagging.

Beaf:
I am finding it difficult to engage with the above, the same way I cannot understand the intentions of this thread.
[size=14pt]So now the victim is to be blamed?[/size]

@topic
What is this thread really about? What fuelled such rubbish?

i have learnt that when things go wrong, the easiest thing to do is to blame other people. But in truth everybody has a part to play.

nobody is innocent. we are all victims and we are all guilty.

rhymz:
@PrinceKC
While I agree with your point,I also think U are going a bit of point.This isn't a debate of the Diaspora against Nigerian residents,the poster wasn't even exclusively criticizing the Diaspora,he was talking about Nigerians in general that sit back and complain just about everything without offering any alternatives.
I am all for criticisms but constructive ones not the type that leaves bad tastes in the mouth and despondence in the air.If thesame Nigeria turns around 2morow this same Sect that ve taken to unneccessarily bashing Nigeria will be the first to want to reap where they never sowed.
My point is it's Ok to whine,complain,criticize but dön't stop there go further,everyone of us should see it as a personal task to be the change we want in this country,we can't all be whining or bailing out the country,Nigeria can only get better through our collective efforts,we can form pressure groups,write articles that can inspire others,inform others about what is going on in our polity.A majority of Nigerian youths do not read newspapers or listen to news,we can inform them,that's how we effect change,my slogan has always been "be the change".Afterall,if U come from a family where a majority of the members are losers and U knöw in your heart that U want a change,won't U look pass all the shortcomings in the family and strive to make a change.If there's wide spread spirited activism amongst our youth,I tell U things will start to look up not this siddon throway stone wey most ppl dey like do.Those of us in Diaspora whom to an extent are financially well off and having seen the best of lives and orderliness can even start by inciting those of us here in Nigeria to take up the mantle of change instead sitting down with your McDonalds Burger and Coca cola and in the throes of your enjoyment U just spew rubbish and tell everyone they can't do it until Yaradua does it!
Finall,I will leave U all with this quote from the message of Dr Eric William's Prime Minister of Trinidad & Tobago to the Youths of the Nation at Independence Youth Rally,30th August 1962,"To your loving hands the future of the nation is entrusted.In your innocent hearts the pride of the nation is enshrined.On your scholastic development the salvation of the nation is dependent.When U return to your classes after independence,remember therefore,each and everyone of U,that U carry the Future of Trinidad & Tobago in your School bags"
This message is aptly reffering to every Nigerian Youth that wants a positive change.

akinalabi:
Its hard to make a head or tail of what you typed above. And its not even easy
to read

Unfortunately, it wasn't hard for me to read and understand what rhymz had to say. If you didn't understand the post, you could have asked questions rather than complain.

@Poster

i understand what u are trying to say.

Nigerians have a reputation of being arrogant. They always believe mine is better that yours, and i think that is why we complain about everything.

The annoying part is that we complain about the same things we are guilty of. Corruption, greed, bribery is in low places as well as in high places.

Put a Nigerian in a "perfect foreign society" and he will still complain about something even when the true habitants of that society are "relatively comfortable".

The poster is not saying we shouldn't complain about things that are not right, but complaining and folding your arms doesn't make anything better (just like a nagging wife).

When you complain, take action to remedy the situation.

The electricity situation will not remain forever, the road situation will eventually change. And it takes a real smart person to be able to anticipate these changes and use it to his advantage.

i dont see anything wrong in planning electric cars for the near future. Progress doesnt have to go along one axis alone. Buy electric cars now, while working on the roads (which fashola is doing), while working on the electricity (which has been a big thing on the news these days)

For those against the electric car idea, do you think or do you want the electricity situation and the road situation to always remain bad. If you see something good in the future, then i dont know what your problem with it is.

If this is recent, the little girl may need urgent medical attention.

There are antiviral drugs that can be used within a short period of exposure to HIV contaminated body fluids which help to reduce the risk of transmission of HIV.

The deed has already been done, but it would be even worse to have the girl infected with the crazy rapist's curse.

The man should be made an example for others that may have similar ideologies.

@ proudly9ja

I dey feel you. You have made a lot of sense. We are so quick to blame everything on the next man, It is the government, it is some other tribe, Our leaders are corrupt because we ourselves are not so much different from them, always trying to cut corners and then feeling smart about it.

Every individual Nigerian needs rebranding. let us all start to do things the right way.

First of all, i think whoever put this on the front page of Nairaland has malicious intentions. The headline says "Nigerian doctors don't want to treat gunshot wounds". I read through the article and i didn't see anything like that.

What i understood from it, and i support, is that if you want to make policies, make policies that will be able to work. No matter how much sentiments people may try to throw in, all private hospitals are running a business and that is why people prefer them to government hospitals.

The doctor's point of view is that, there is nothing wrong for a caring government to undertake payment of medical bills of patients brought in under emergency situations for the first 48hrs.

FFA:
MEDICAL EXPERTS CAN HYPERTENSION LEAD TO BLEEDING FROM NOSE AND EAR, I NEED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT HYPERTENSION, RIP KENKELEWU,

Yes, from the nose and into the eyes. If the blood pressure is real high, it can cause rupture of the small vessels in those areas. About the ears, i haven't heard of that.

But in a case of suspicious death like this, an autopsy MUST be performed.

Nigerians are the biggest problem of Nigeria. Inferiority complex has bitten real deep into their genes.

Have you ever seen any tv commercial in America where they generalize or talk shit that black americans are jobless and are criminals. To generalize in any context is WRONG!

To all those talking shit - you better wake up.

The problem with Nollywood movies has nothing to do with the movie titles. Hollywood makes movies with mad funny movie titles too that could pass as nollywood titles

The rich man's wife
Lie to me
The final destination

I'm sure y'all can think of more.

My point is the reason why people perceive a movie title as stupid is if the movie is wack. So hate on the movies, and not the titles.

IMO, the dowry can not be too expensive as long as both parties are in agreement.

I read through the post and you said that your friend's fiance is a very rich sheik and he has the responsibility of taking care of his parents and siblings.

Don't you think that might be the reason why his mother frowned at the 24k gold idea. Even if he is very rich, lots of responsibility will definately drain his pocket.

So, IMO, your friend should be considerate of the situation of the whole family because eventually, she's going to be a part of the family.

Ability to speak english has nothing to do with intelligence. Many intelligent people in the world can't speak english at all, and even those who learn it don't speak it very well.

I watched the Rita video and truthfully it was senseless. She was just rambling about nothing. Intelligent people know not to talk about things they don't know a thing about.

N.B. I don't watch koko mansion and i dont care whoever wins.

tunku:
I read this thread and my heart weeps heavily at the complete mental degradation of the majority of people that posted here molly cuddling their tribal prejudices. Putting down other people for being black and dark as if that would illuminate their ignorant minds. All you tribalists are part of the problem, but hang on to your ethnic bigotry if it gives you comfort, but do remember you damn yourselves and your children to the petty ignorance that has blighted Nigeria for decades. I can say this without equivocation: the problem with Nigeria is Nigerians.

I think you hit the nail on the head. And if i may add to that - we get the kind of leaders we deserve!!!

I thought off topic posts were meant to be deleted.

This thread is extremely shameful. Typical Nigerian mentality and their big mouth trying to be superior to each other. BTW, I am Nigerian too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYJiDKXwP2w

Just stumbled on this, First ever integration of Christianity and Islam, Only in Naija.

This is shameful! What kind of leaders do we have? And i know this kind of thing is going on at all levels. Greedy evil people so desperate to stay in power.

As a principle, i never forward chain mails. But if i was to get this picture, i will forward it to anybody who cares to see. The shameful picture should be seen by all. Maybe that will keep him and his disgraced family hiding for the rest of his shameful life.

These kind of things might be good for our democracy, people falling out with their godfathers(thief fighting thief until they all kill themselves). I know other "honorables" will now think twice before posing nude before some orisha all in the name of being in power.

Funny question

Diffferent people have different reasons/factors that make them behave the way they do.

Being wicked has got nothing to do with

1. Gender
2. Tribe
3. Occupation
4. Race

You can add more to the list if you like.

Kobojunkie:
Why do I get the feeling that we are all making this rebranding scheme a Dora-only issue? I am sorry but NO, it is not just her problem to deal with but ours as well. The article above makes one particular point that I felt to repost that, and that is that every single Nigerian is a problem that needs to be dealt with. We are the problem here.


We pretend to rebrand ourselves daily with lies we tell others of how we are the best people, the happiest people on earth etc. Yet we are the same people who go out to commit all sorts of atrocities against our brothers and fellow men. Sure, Dora decided to take the idea national but we have all been practicing her form of rebranding for longer and we need to deal with that at least.

Word!!! Nobody holy at all.

Please guys,
I just noticed all over nairaland. if any potentially positive thing about Nigeria is mentioned, we all bash it to pieces.

Which will u prefer, an idiot who sits down all day doing nothing or one who tries to learn.

Bollywood/Nollywood will be a beautiful collaboration, and somehow, i hope those who plan it get things right.

I'm not a fan of Nollywood movies, but they can improve.

To all those like me who used to think that Nollywood was just for West Africa, you will be surprised, just like me if you go to some unlikely countries and the question people ask you when you tell them you are Nigerian is "Do you know Aki and pawpaw"

The only day some people will see any good in Lagos/Nigeria will probably be the same day some foreign media is bigging up Nigeria.

Na only follow follow we know.

jbrandt:
The range of the responses to the article shows the very problems the New Yorker guy was talking about. Those responses indicate an abysmal lack of any ability to think in abstract terms on the part of Nigerians. There's also mostly illiterate writing in virtually every post. One fool boasts of how he feels Hot whenever he's approaching MMIA. Well, sex is one of the only things that work in Lagos and Nigeria. If you've got five thousand naira you can get a transcedndetal expereince from the city's arrmies of whores.
You mostly all miseed the point. It's not just the filth he was talking about. He was more alarmed by the poverty and the fact that Lagos has no modern indutrial base and no economic basis fopr existing.
Lagos is a failure and a disgrace to mankind. All your damned patriotism and your irrational faith in your greatness as a nation can't cahgne the fact that Lagos is a degenreate filth pile where poverty is si normal that it rules everything. Meanwhile your subliterate ravings on this forum, indicative of small minds, shows just how bleak Lagos's and Nigeria's future is. You all can''t think. The only one of you who comes close to a sophisticated critique of the New Yorker artice is Jakumo, and you all hate him.

Haba!!! Unbelievable!!! I'm speechless.

Yea, her menses could be dealyed for that long,

just to clarify,
How long after unprotected intercourse did she use the postinor,

If intercourse was around the time of ovulation, that means her normal menses should be 2 weeks after taking the pill, but the pill can make this date earlier or later. That means menses could come before or after 2 weeks.

I hope i understood your question.

But to keep ur mind @rest you can take a pregnancy test.

ScanLess:
Nuclear technology has a lot of obvious advantages over all other forms electric power generation, the first time a feasibility study was done for a nuclear plant in Nigeria was in the late 70s, i remember Onitsha or Lokoja was penned down as possible locations for the plant. well most things in naija it never saw the light of the day.

What bothers me with this renewed interest in nuclear technology are serious issues we are not looking at very well and they quite ominous

1. PHCN and their father Never-Expect-Power-Always have shown us that they are not to be entrusted with anything of value as they only wreck it with mismanagement, it is so shameful that PHCN offices across the country use generators to work. what a shame can we trust them to run a nuclear power plant when they cant properly install a small transformer for my neighbourhood.
2. Assuming we let the Russians run the plant, can we trust them not to extract plutonium for nukes and give to their retarded boyfriend Iran. this will be a very good cover up for Iran.
3.What if MEND says "hell, you guys want to use our oil money and build nukes to further subjugate us". attacking oil installations is not as half dangerous as attacking a nuclear facility o o o !!
4.Where will this plant or plant be built, you can bet that the rest of country will cry foul when one region gets a plant and they dont, with the way naija is right now unless all the six regions get one plant each simultaneously, there will be no peace.
5.is this just about power generation or has the northern hegemony joined their retarded brothers in the new axis of evil; Russia-Iran-North Korea-Al Queda-Islamic Jihad in their nuclear arms race. All these things are now being done in the name of Nigeria, but we all know that Nigeria in reality belongs only to the Northern Hegemony.
6. Another excellent opportunity for looting and chopping has appeared for the abuja tribe. they have not told us what became of the power probe , now they want to embark on another spend thrift in the name nuclear power plants. will the same virus that knocked out NEPA/PHCN not destroy naija finally with this nuclear thing.

people we need to answer these burning issues b/4 we accept or reject this new deal

Scanless,

Thank you for your contribution. We need to look at the advantages and potential problems before embarking on such a project, before deciding if it is possible to achieve or not.

To all my fellow countrymen, we need to know the exact plans and how it is being carried out rather than judging blindly that it will be a faliure.

Nigeria is very talented and if we want to we can do things the right way.

Abeg. it can happen to anybody. Tuface Idibia has done nigeria real proud. He put us on the map of the world despite all the bad we have in naija. They did it without government support, without NGO. It took hard work.

People make mistakes and Nigerians need to be forgiving. His multiple baby mother problem is his personal problem.

Please let 2 face rest.

Nothing dey happen!

Its better to try and fail, than to continue to sit back and complain.

There are risks involved in everything.

MSY:
Ziga @Post 99 above


Mr Ziga, learn to pick a position and stick with it. Your comments above are all over the place. First you say the people who make comments on this page are most likely not Nigerians, or have never set foot in Nigeria. Then you say all you want is fairness, then you say i have no shame, and then you finally admit that yes, Nigeria is rotten and we should fix it!

First of all, it does not matter if the people who comment on this page are Nigerians or not, as long as they speak the truth. And believe it or not, you can actually benefit from comments made by non-Nigerians. You have a false sense of patriotism that will not get you anywhere. You need to learn to call it the way it is. Do not for one second think your defense of Nigeria here means you love Nigeria more than i do. Easily verifiable truths have been said about Nigeria, and you are here huffing and puffing about crime existing in other countries and that the UAE wants something from you. Your primary concern should be "how do we correct this perception of Nigeria", not "you should not say that because there is crime in other countries too".

If someone calls you a thief, your motivation should be, how do i stop stealing, not, "don't call me a thief, because there are other thieves out there".

Do you get it now?

@MSY

I completely understand your point, and i want you to get mine too by looking at this objectively.

I am not being unduly patriotic, neither am i justifying wrongs by saying others do it too.

Let us use the thief scenario. Someone who has being called a thief so many times, even when he goes clean will always be called a thief. It is the same problem ex convicts go through when they get out of jail.

I admit the bad in Naija, at the same time, i know there are very few people trying to correct it. Correcting the problem will involve removing the bad behaviour as well as image laundering. These two don't have to go in that order, it is usually simultaneous.

Bad behaviour doesn't change completely overnight, so we try to change and at the same time we should have people who will encourage foreign organizations not to worsen an already bad situation.

They could be encouraged to state the facts for their potential passengers without scaring them (I know its possible without). Journalism can be used as a weapon, many people in the world see Africa as war thorn just like CNN shows!

I believe this kind of arrangement will probably be in place in some other countries, and my point is, because we don't think PR is important in Naija,  we will continue to get bad publicity, even when we try to change some of the bad behaviour, however slow it is.

Hi Sean,

Street trading has lots of advantages, which i'm sure you already know about. Coz it seems to me that your research is biased towards that perspective.

And like all good things, needs to be regulated. The lack of regualtion of street trading in lagos is one of the problems of lagos. There was a time when the population of street traders on the road will probably me more than the number of vehicles.

Traffic jams, Car accidents, Child labor, Crime have all been attributed to street trading. What the Lagos state government is trying to do is control it because you can't have street traders on every road. Their methods might be different from what will apply in the States for so many reasons.