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Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by Boomark(m): 8:08pm On May 30, 2013
@ben

Jesus and the Father are One WHAT? Please use the scripture to answer.
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by Boomark(m): 8:02pm On May 30, 2013
twosquare: God give coded msg....Jesus said,"Before Abraham was, I AM"...don't think He was only talking abt before d foundation of d World..He is also revealing Himself.....I Am that I AM....d name of Jehovah God spake 2 them in d old testament.
So are you saying that this is what Jesus said "before Abraham was, Jehovah(I AM)"?

When i say "I AM Boomark," am i trying to say that my name is I AM?
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by Boomark(m): 7:45pm On May 30, 2013
twosquare: if u can't understand dat book of 1jhn and u can't understand hebrews...den am sorry u can't understand dat which has been frm d beginning.yea,thrgh His Son but d Son speak also via d Spirit. He is 3 in one.if u don't knw dat u urself is 3 in 1 being.then u can't get it.and if I. Tell u dat d Holy Spirit is 7 persons in one being, will u blieve m? Anyway, we speak wisdom among them that are perfect, nt.amng children.
Please use the scripture to illustrate what you want tell us just as i used it to cancel what you said earlier. Read Heb 1:1-2 again. It never said God has stopped speaking. He is the source of what Jesus is telling us.

I expect you to say i was wrong just as i did to what you said using the scripture.
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by Boomark(m): 6:43pm On May 30, 2013
Dux-01:
for both of your questions Jesus christ is just humbling himself before the father, telling us that as God the father was his father,He was also their father.that is One thing present in the trinity.It does not make Jesus any less than God.
Do you call the Father your God just because of humility? huh So Jesus is showing us that we should call God our God just because of humility? You have not answered the question. Why did Jesus call the Father his God? Rev 3:12
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by Boomark(m): 11:28pm On May 29, 2013
Dux-01:
why are you referring to the Father ONLY as God in your last sentence instead of sayn that the Father is Of God?
Ooo! Make i add am. The Father of God. Please show me where i can see this one. Plus including mother of God(ie mother of the trinity God).

SMH!!!
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by Boomark(m): 11:20pm On May 29, 2013
Dux-01:
well if you believe that Jesus is God i don't think you will have a problem with that.well, i can only give you a scripture that says that Jesus shared all the glory with God the father before the world began.
Before i believe you please answer these questions.

Why did Jesus call the Father his Father and our Father, Jn 20:17, his God and our God, Jn 20:17, Rev 3:12. Is the term "God" here signifying title or subjection?
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by Boomark(m): 10:39pm On May 29, 2013
Dux-01:
The Holy Spirit is the spirit of God.God here refers to Three persons.of course, The Father And Son are also Spirit beings but It is the Holy spirit that takes the name ''Spirit of God''He is the One that searcheth all things .Even the deep things of God.1 cor 2:10.The HOLY Spirit is God. He was the one that moved over the surface of the waters in the beginning.He was the one who killed ananias and sapphira for lying.Right from when He came in pentecost It has been His dispensation and we are still in his .He was the one who said in acts 13 v 2''Set apart for me saul and barnabas for the work I have called them. Even now He is the member of The Godhead now working in the world.He is the one that a person can commit the unforgivable sin against.mark 3:29.
if you can't fully understand trinity then you can never understand whatever you would want to say. Look at the bolded:

You said God refers to the 3 persons. So spirit of God means spirit of the 3 person. Son of God will also mean son of the 3 persons. huh

"of" means "belonging to." spirit of God mean spirit belonging to God. The Son belongs to God. The Father(God) owns everything.
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by Boomark(m): 10:14pm On May 29, 2013
Dux-01:
believe me the emerald rainbow i encircling the throne Rev 4:3 refers to the Holy spirit.emerald is green and green stands for power,productivity,and mercy which refers to the Holy Spirit.
grin
the green from nigerian flag nko?
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by Boomark(m): 10:02pm On May 29, 2013
Dux-01:
believe me.Jesus has always been on the throne with God the Father from the beginning, he said that if we overcome(make him happy,exercise our victory over sin,satan and the world)we would co-rule with him when he came down to earth,he set an example for us to follow.
How can i believe you? I don't believe man made doctrines. I need scriptures to believe that Jesus was sitting on the throne of God from the beginning.

He is now sitting at the right hand of the Father not that he has been sitting there before he came to earth.
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by Boomark(m): 7:03pm On May 29, 2013
benalvino: thank you... now you are talking... is there only one throne in Heaven?
1ch 28:5
“And of all my sons, (for the
LORD hath given me many
sons,) he hath chosen Solomon
my son to sit upon the throne
of the kingdom of the LORD
over Israel”.


Israel is Gods kingdom and Those who rule as king in Gods kingdom are sitting upon His throne.

1 Chronicles 17:11-14
New King James Version (NKJV)
11 And it shall be, when your days
are fulfilled, when you must go to
be with your fathers, that I will set
up your seed after you, who will be
of your sons; and I will establish his
kingdom. 12 He shall build Me a
house, and I will establish his
throne forever. 13 I will be his
Father, and he shall be My son;
and
I will not take My mercy away from
him, as I took it from him who was
before you. 14 And I will establish
him in My house and in My
kingdom forever; and his throne
shall be established forever.”’”

This throne is to be established forever and the one that will sit on it forever is Jesus after Solomon.
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by Boomark(m): 5:50pm On May 29, 2013
ijawkid: This divine throne is the same throne which david sat on and solomon..........

The whole ish of that verse is to tell all of us that the throne on which these servants of GOD(Jesus,david,solomon) sat and sitting on is from GOD.......that is why the throne is divine......

Please read 1 chronicles 29:23

International Standard Version
(©2012)
So Solomon sat on the throne of
the LORD
as king in the place of
his father David. He prospered,
and all of Israel obeyed him.


See also the true meaning of that verse when it is also applying to Jesus....

Luke 1:32

New International Version
(©2011)
He will be great and will be called
the Son of the Most High. The
Lord God will give him the throne
of his father David


Gbam!!!!......

The throne which is divine on which Jesus would sit is from the almighty God Yahweh......

David sat on it,solomon did and now its Jesus who would be given that throne......

That throne is divine because its source is Yahweh .......
Rev 3:21
21 To the one who is victorious, I
will give the right to sit with me on
my throne, just as I was victorious
and sat down with my Father on
his throne.


Can they tell us if Jesus sat on this throne as equal to the Father before he became victorious? Where was he sitting before then?

@Dux-01
You have avoided my questions.
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by Boomark(m): 5:13pm On May 29, 2013
benalvino: lol therefore God, your God... if the verse say I your God I will understand but it says God Your God... what does it mean? then link it to Hebrew 1-8

Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.

Psalm 45:6-7
7 Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Hebrews 1:7-9
And of the angels he said, Who makes his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. 8But to the Son he said, Your throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your kingdom. 9You have loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness above your fellows. now God called Jesus O God... you tried to run away from it... you see that psalms and Hebrew are same thing?

What I see is Big letter G... I don't know how you are translating it.

and if you have a son and tell him your father says go home does it make sense? you are his father how can you tell him what his father says... if you use I said Go home then it makes sense.
try and change it to small letter.
why did it say "God, thy God"? As in, why would Jesus have a God? Like you have a God over you. For what? Look below too and explain?

Rev 3:12
12 The one who is victorious I will
make a pillar in the temple of my
God.
Never again will they leave it.
I will write on them the name of
my God
and the name of the city of
my God,
the new Jerusalem, which
is coming down out of heaven from
my God;
and I will also write on
them my new name.

He also said the same thing in Mt 20:17. Where he call the Father his God and our God. Is this term "God" just a title or does it show subjection? 1Cor 15:27-28. huh huh
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by Boomark(m): 3:35pm On May 29, 2013
Dux-01:
what i mean specifically is that it is GOD THE FATHER THAT called THE SON GOD.meaning they are two distinct perons there in that passage. many times when the word God is used in the bible it refers to Three persons.
Ok. At least am right when i said twosquare is wrong.

Where can we see the bolded? That is where one God refers to 3 persons. We are not talking of 3 Gods.
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by Boomark(m): 3:01pm On May 29, 2013
Dux-01:
in verse 8 of heb 1 God even calls Jesus God saying his throne is forever and ever
From my quote, i showed twosquare that what he has been believing is wrong. Do you disagree with me? am not in the business of quoting and counter quoting. it doesn't help. Explain how your quote above shows that the God that has been speaking through the prophets and now through Jesus is Jesus himself. is that God Jesus? Or are you just hanging on the Title "God"? Please if we are truthful let us try and answer our questions.
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by Boomark(m): 12:04pm On May 29, 2013
twosquare: There are three that bear witness in heaven: The Father, d Word and Holy Ghost and these three are one 1jhn 5:7. he is God....and.he.is d.one who came to help to help us in did endtimes......There was a time it was d Father that was at work on d earth in d old testament, d FATHER spake and stepped aside so dat d Son cud speak also..... d Son came and spake and also stepped aside.dat d Holy Spirit cud speak. They agree in.all things.it is no competition amongst them.Nw.it is d time of d Holy Ghost. We are in d era of d Holy Ghost. He is nw.d one in charge.remember Jesus.said on.revelations....He that has ear, let.him hear what d SPIRIT is saying 2 d churches.dat is it.......shalom!!
I don't know what to say...but that is not it. These are small small man made teachings they brought in to confuse you the more. Read this and correct yourself.

Hebrews 1:1-2
New International Version (NIV)
God’s Final Word: His Son
In the past God spoke to our
ancestors through the prophets at
many times and in various ways,
2 but in these last days he has
spoken to us by his Son, whom he
appointed heir of all things, and
through whom also he made the
universe. Also Rev 1:1.

Who is still speaking? Is He 3? Who made the appointment? Is He 3? So the God the Israelites worshiped is not 3 persons, acts 3:13.
Christianity EtcRe: Antagonists Of The Gospel Of Infinite Grace; Answer This Question!! by Boomark(m): 2:16pm On May 25, 2013
Ihedinobi
Have I passed judgment here? I'm
sure you do not know. You may
ask frosbel, truthislight and
boomark, yes, and okeyxyz,
whether I have. They know what
I do to pass judgment on anyone.
On this thread, I am laboring. I
am fighting for the very people
who are shooting at me. I do not
want them dead so my effort is
not to shoot to kill, but to do my
best to capture them. If that were
not my intent, I would have
ended this already and closed this
discussion with you guys.
Let your labour be in the truth. That you are so convinced in what you believe to mean attacking the person of Christ does not make it true. Many have built their convictions around errors and they believe the holyspirit have made their conviction so.

You are still a learner and have not gotten upto the level of Christ or Paul to see a vision of this Boomark and others you claim is attacking Christ to be sure. So that is why you must have good answers to why Christ said what he said(not me) in Rev 3:12 ie according to what is written. If not, you should not think yourself above others or that you have arrived.

At least you know very well about those protecting the attackers of Mohammed with their lives. Your own conviction no even reach their own half. But Christians are different.
Christianity EtcRe: Antagonists Of The Gospel Of Infinite Grace; Answer This Question!! by Boomark(m): 9:42am On May 25, 2013
ayoku777: Common guy, so you mean without the law of Moses we can't but murder and commit adulteryhuh Remember Joseph overcame adultery temptation from potipher's wife over 500years before the Law of Moses. If you have the life of Christ we will manifest it by the Spirit and it will be without the law. This thing is too obvious bro.
What they are doing is making the law of Moses superior to the law of the spirit.

If Christ existed from the beginning, then the law of the spirit existed from the beginning. The law of Moses was given to the Israelites in preparation for Christ to be made manifest so we can walk according to his law(law of the spirit) not the law of Moses which is of the flesh.

One cannot be in the spirit and still be under the law guiding the flesh.
Christianity EtcRe: Antagonists Of The Gospel Of Infinite Grace; Answer This Question!! by Boomark(m): 9:17am On May 25, 2013
obadiah777: JUDAZ ISKARIATTTTTT SMDH
grin
Christianity EtcRe: Antagonists Of The Gospel Of Infinite Grace; Answer This Question!! by Boomark(m): 9:05am On May 25, 2013
Ihedinobi: Lol.

1. Have I said that we Christians are under any law?

2. If the law of Moses is not for Christians, none of it will be found when we become spiritual.
Inconsistency!

1 When he said said you must keep all the laws of Moses(stoning to death inclusive) as a Christian, you switched over to your question(1). What law have been advocating all this while on this thread?

2 So are we keeping the laws of Moses now that we are Christians in the new covenant which include stoning people to death? We cannot keep half and leave half and be under curse, Gal 3:10, James 2:10-12.

Can you explain James 2:10-12, especially v12? That is to keep speaking and acting as those who will be judged by the law of free people.
Christianity EtcRe: Antagonists Of The Gospel Of Infinite Grace; Answer This Question!! by Boomark(m): 9:15pm On May 23, 2013
starve
so you can have more spiritual
power.


@shdemidemi

I meant the bolded above. Where is it written?
Christianity EtcRe: Antagonists Of The Gospel Of Infinite Grace; Answer This Question!! by Boomark(m): 10:03am On May 23, 2013
shdemidemi:
3 As I urged you when I went into Macedonia—remain in Ephesus that you may charge some that they teach[b] no other doctrine[/b], 4 nor give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which cause disputes rather than godly edification which is in faith.


6 If you instruct the brethren in these things, you will be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished in the words of faith and of the good doctrine which you have carefully followed.

He said follow what I have taught you, it will be a total error if Timothy wakes up one day and says he got a new revelation. He kept on telling the boy, don't let anyone teach anything else.

2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, 3 forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.

The man even spoke against the doctrine of don't marry so you can be holy and[b] starve so you can have more spiritual power.[/b] As strange as what I am saying is, it is right there in the scriptures. People just chose to neglect the truth.
where is the bolded written. This is called reasoning from through scripture.
Christianity EtcRe: Hell, Can Go To Hell - The Conclusion ? by Boomark(m): 8:09am On May 23, 2013
alexleo: And nay be Elijah suddenly became a human bird of the heaven by that action. Enoch probably is now in your village since the bible said he did not taste death. Paul must have also lied that he was taken to the third heaven going by your submission. The several places that Jesus talked about hell and its torments haven't you twisted it in you usual satanic manner? You are a merchant of lies. You can't deceive me. Elijah's ministry ended when he ascended to heaven and Elisha took over his mantle. stop your stu.pid and senseless twisting of the scripture. Tell your master satan that you can't continue to run his trade of falsehood for him because its detrimental to the eternal destiny of your soul.
This is what i have been saying. Before you say someone is acting stup.id you look at yourself first. Better not said.

You did not even give considerations to what the 1st and 2nd heavens are. Which heaven was spoken about in Deut 28:12 that gave rain?

You cannot contradict Jesus with what you think you believe. And again read well. Paul did not say he himself was taken up. He said he knew a man, 2Cor 12:1-5.

You have to cut down your anger towards us. It has clouded your judgment. It will make you sit tight in falsehood because you think frosbel or any of us cannot teach you. That is pride.
Christianity EtcRe: Hell, Can Go To Hell - The Conclusion ? by Boomark(m): 7:08am On May 23, 2013
alexleo: If thinking means accepting your idiotic and satanic message then I don't need your thinking. What a shameless satanic desperado display. I ll vehemently oppose any satan inspired teaching you bring here. You want to lure people into eternal damnation. You ll fail serially.
satan did not conquer Jesus with his twisted scripture. They have shown you where Jesus said no one has ascended into heaven. Where Elijah wrote to a king. Of all these things you have nothing to say.

When i ask questions people disappear. Most of you have stopped talking to me because they think my questions does not add value to the falsehood your holding unto.

Untill you start having answers to what you believe people will not believe. If you want, shout desperado, satan, pit of hell and hell fire till tomorrow it will not help.

Whatever is twisted can still be subdued by the word. But whatever is not twisted, you can't subdue.
Christianity EtcRe: Antagonists Of The Gospel Of Infinite Grace; Answer This Question!! by Boomark(m): 10:09pm On May 22, 2013
shdemidemi: my friend, i believe the problem is in your head, sort that out then we can move on. What do you mean by what the conscience does?
I will try, I hope I can help you this time..the conscience interpret wrong from right in us.
May be this will help you a bit, when the bible refer to law or the end of it-it is talking about the law of Moses.
Sir, can i also say that the conscience was what Adam and eve made use of when they knew good and bad and it was transferred to their children?
Christianity EtcRe: Antagonists Of The Gospel Of Infinite Grace; Answer This Question!! by Boomark(m): 9:37pm On May 22, 2013
obadiah777: grin grin grin LOOK AT THIS GAINSAYER LOL. THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT AS EXPRESSED IN THE VERSE YOU QUOTED IS INSTRUCTIONS TO THE ELECT IN HOW TO NOW CONDUCT THEMSELVES SEEING AS THEY ARE NOW SEALED AND SAVED AND ABOVE THE LAW BUT HAVE NOT TRANSFERED INTO THE NEW COVENANT OF CORRUPTION INHERITING INCORRUPTION. HOWEVER TO THOSE NOT SEALED AND SAVED YET ? THE LAW IS THE GUIDANCE.
Me gainsayer? angry

Do you know those who the letter was meant for? Read Galatians 1 and stop trying to wear your left shoe on the right foot. Pauls ministry was different and he is not teaching the apostles. When he spoke before the apostles in acts we knew.

You do err you Reprobate pharisee grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Hell, Can Go To Hell - The Conclusion ? by Boomark(m): 7:30pm On May 22, 2013
obadiah777: obadiah777: LMAO. NOW I
KNOW YOU ARE DRUNK ON
SHEKPE. NOW LET ME PROVE
ONCE AND FOR ALL TO
EVERYONE OUT THERE THAT
JESUS IS MICHEAL. IF YOU
SUPPORT THIS POST AND HAVE
BEEN EDIFIED BY THIS POST,
PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE. IF YOU
THINK I AM FULL OF CRAP ALSO,
PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE. OK
NOW LETS FINALLY PROVE THAT
JESUS IS MICHEAL
JUDE VS 9 Yet Michael the
archangel, when contending
with the devil he disputed
about the body of Moses, durst
not bring against him a railing
accusation, but said, The Lord
rebuke thee. <<<<< MICHEAL
CALLING HIMSELF THE LORD ?
AND MAKING REFERENCE TO
WHEN HE TOLD SATAN DURING
THE TEMPTATION AFTER 40
DAYS FAST THAT THE LORD
REBUKE THEE
NOW LADIES AND GENTLEMEN I
THINK THIS MATTER AND ISSUE
HAS BEEN RESOLVED FOREVER


<<< DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT BOOKMARK wink
Have you forgotten how i brought you into my new party? Cos you came late and refuse to read all the 40 pages(recommend by truthislight) even as you disagreed with us.

The contention between Michael and satan over Moses' body(not bone/skeleton) was not after Jesus' 40 day fasting.

It happened when Moses died and nobody was around to bury him. Michael defeated satan by saying "may Jehovah rebuke you." God buried Moses by himself, Deut 34:6.
Christianity EtcRe: Hell, Can Go To Hell - The Conclusion ? by Boomark(m): 6:33pm On May 22, 2013
obadiah777: I SEE YOU ARE HERE BEING A REPROBATE AGAIN ? OF COURSE JESUS IS ARCH-ANGEL MICHEAL
Don't mind him, he was not there when we were reasoning from the scripture. He should go and read from that thread.

I was in initially in the opposition party before i decamped. cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Hell, Can Go To Hell - The Conclusion ? by Boomark(m): 5:56pm On May 22, 2013
frosbel: ^^^^

Funny enough , the JW you keep tagging in your comments , are more on point with some of the key bible doctrines.
JWs dey mercy for them. If i were them, i would be asking these people questions that will always shut their mouth. But they have chosen to be answering peoples questions for teaching sake.
Christianity EtcRe: Hell, Can Go To Hell - The Conclusion ? by Boomark(m): 5:34pm On May 22, 2013
alexleo: Get thee behind me satan.
hahaha! I no fit shout. Waited for this answer. We have seen those rejecting the word with "Get thee behind me satan."

SMH!!!
Christianity EtcRe: Hell, Can Go To Hell - The Conclusion ? by Boomark(m): 5:11pm On May 22, 2013
truthislight: Does the bible contradic itself?
They hate statements that bears this sign "?" they don't have answers to the questions of what they are teaching and what is written but they go on teaching it.
Christianity EtcRe: Antagonists Of The Gospel Of Infinite Grace; Answer This Question!! by Boomark(m): 2:38pm On May 22, 2013
obadiah777: LMAO SHDEMIDEMI HAS HIS OWN BRAND OF BIBLE. THAT BROTHER HAS LOST WHATS LEFT OF HIS DAYUM MIND. JUST A REPROBATE LAWLESS BELLIGERENT MAN SMDH
This pharisee is here calling shdemidemi a reprobate. He is doing well and does not run away from questions.

Just to tell me whether Galatia is located in Israel or not, you reprobately disappeared. Tomorrow you will still go and tell others elsewhere that the fruit of the holy spirit(Gal 5:22-23) is for the apostles(Elect) alone.

What is this your new "Dayum" whatever. angry before use to be "you do err" angry :pwink
Christianity EtcRe: Antagonists Of The Gospel Of Infinite Grace; Answer This Question!! by Boomark(m): 12:52pm On May 22, 2013
shdemidemi: The scriptures says, you can only be saved by the gospel preached by Paul

in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel

I would want to believe you know Paul's gospel is not the law of Moses.



The new covenant isn't a law but grace.


Stop acting dumb na...how can you compare God's behaviour to the law. Who made the law? God is perfect, beyond any law given to Moses.
You must be a very patient teacher. Try and ask some difficult questions so you can rest a little. May your strength be renewed.

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