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Most of them are professional derailers ...

They derail threads a lot that's why you don't see them in serious sections like religion, politics, technology etc...

Majority of them have nothing to offer...

@toba

Lead by example...why don't you start then we'll follow

[quote author=Maria-G]She is a very nice, cheerful and simple girl. As a born catholic, she never misses early morning masses and other society meetings. She is really dedicated to her academic work (a student of College of Education, Nsugbe, Anambra state) and also to church work.[/quote]Are you judging her spiritual life based on her out ward appearance?

[quote author=Maria-G]On that fateful day, as usual, she was on her to the church for the early mass, she was intercepted by a group of boys who Molested her mercilessly, each one taking his turn. As a result of that, the girl drifted into unconciousness.[/quote]Ok I want to understand your story...she was going for early morning mass in Nsugbe right?

You should know that 80% of people based in Anambra state are catholics. And for her to be in Nsugbe, which is also a student based environment, there's no way she would be raaped on a sunday morning without passersby finding out.

Do you know how 6am on a sunday morning is in Anambra state is?

The story looks false to me.

[quote author=Maria-G]As the day brightened, people spotted her and took her to the hospital where she regained conciousness and also narrated her ordeal.[/quote]Hmmm...so she was the only one going for the morning mass.

Let me ask...what's the name of the church she was heading to?

What time did the incident occur?

What's the distance from her house to the church?

[quote author=Maria-G]The doctor adviced that she returned after 3months to check her HIV status, at least to be on the safer side.

After 3 months, she went in for the check up and she was told that she tested positive for HIV. She was so heartbroken and vowed to share the national cake to any guy that crosses her path. She packed up all her belongings and left school for Port-harcourt where she started her "ashawo" career.
After sometime, she returned to her school to check on her result, only for her to bump into the doctor that treated her. The doctor was so happy, saying that he has been searching for her everywhere, that he wants to tell her something concerning her test.[/quote]So a dedicated sister in a church would get molested, and the church wouldn't show any sympathy...instead they would fold their arms and watch her begin a prostitutiion career.

You have to improve on your writing skills you know...this is pure fiction.

[quote author=Maria-G]After sometime, she returned to her school to check on her result, only for her to bump into the doctor that treated her. The doctor was so happy, saying that he has been searching for her everywhere, that he wants to tell her something concerning her test. The girl actually tested negative for HIV, the mistake was from the hospital lab scientists.[/quote]Let me ask...have you ever been to a hospital before?

For your information, when you go into a hospital for a test, you would be asked to tender relevant information about yourself.

The information would include your name, age, sex, home address phone number etc...they (the hospital) then use this information to process and give you your medical card.

So for you to say she tested negative and the doctors couldn't locate her is a total bluff.

Your doctor has all your data and therefore has the ability to contact you whenever the need arise.

[quote author=Maria-G]She was so weak on hearing that news. Weak, angry, furious, all the likes, she felt like strangling the doctor.
After 3months, she went back for check up and this time, she really tested positive for HIV after confirming from 2 other hospitals....[/quote]Oh...when she got tested the first time, it didn't occur to her that she confirm the result...

Like I stated earlier, you're a very poor writer.

[quote author=Maria-G]My question is this: she beleived in God; she served him; she loved him and just a little test of faith she failed woefully.
What made her do that? Did she just loose faith in God or what? Why didnt she call on God to help her? Why take matters into her hands.... Coming to the religious part of her life, did she just loose faith cus of the pain or she was just a church-goer all along, maybe sort of a camouflage?[/quote]This is where you got me totally pissed off...

How dare you use God's name for your cheap lies?

How dare you give the atheist on this forum an opportunity to ridicule God?

I would suggest that whenever you have a nollywood script to share, take to a section where viewers would be glad to read it.

Thanks!

I love my religion (Christianity) if it were islam this kind of accusation came up, they would have started rioting and killing innocent people.

But as the meaningless debate came up in christianity, we united as one...and with the help of the holy ghost (wisdom and insight), we debunked it... Glory be to God .

obadiah777: YOU DAMN RIGHT BROTHER CRAZYMAN. ITS A FULFILLMENT OF HEBREWS 12 VS 16 . VERY PROPHETIC STATEMENT YOU MADE THERE

Thank you my dear brother...may the lord blees thee and keep thee.

May the lord make his face shine upon thee and be gracious unto thee.

May the lord lift up his countenance upon thee and give thee peace!

Amen.

Since we know the truth brother buzugee, let's keep praying for our atheist friends so they would come to know the truth and serve God.

Its very obvious that they're making a very blind argument...the facts are very clear even a blind man can see it...they need our prayers.

Peace.

musKeeto: Has there been any period of time where there has been no knowledge? No wars? No famines? No earthquakes? No atheists?

Can you compare the kind of technology, the level of wickedness, the magnitude of bloodshed the high rate of natural disasters we're experiencing today to what we had in the old days?

musKeeto: @CrazyMan:
If you can state any period of time in which your 'signs' were not existent, I'd gladly be a believer...

If any world is about to end, it's the one in which religious institutes claim to be moral compasses of society...

Why are you so blind...why can't you open your eyes and see the truth before you.

Read MacDaddy's post carefully...and you would see that England has degenerated drastically away from the word of God. Such wasn't so in the older years

So my theory remains true...we indeed are in the last days.

Now I've stated my facts are you ready to become a believer?

Oh...so now the world reacted towards the ministers bounty offer, they (the pakistan government) dissociated themselves from him...

Why didn't a muslim clerk or rather the muslims in general condemn his actions? Why was it his government that responded...oh I get it...they're afraid of the Americans.

Classic cowardice.

butterflyy: Some girls hate surprises. And why did he have to wait for three yrs

Rubbish...so you expected him to marry her after a week or a month? You have very little knowledge of the synopsis of their 3 years of their courtship. Therefore avoid jumping into hasty conclusions.

deshclones: Women...there is nothing I would not see in this life...a friend and colleague arranged a secret engagement party today at lareal hotel vgc..his gf was oblivious of the plot...he invited a couple of friends (me inclusive) to the engagement bash...everything was moving on fine till around 9.30pm when he went down on his knees and proposed to his gf of 3yrs...to our shock ,the gal just lifted the guy up,hugged him and ran outta of bar...she rejected the ring..this is a gal that he has dated for 3yrs,has always loved and cherished this gal,never lifted his hands on her...infact we were all in shock,at a point pity replaced shock,there is nothing as depressin as watchin a grown man cry..I weak..this happened in the prescence of the guys close friends nd relatives..what can be worse than this my people?what will make a gal reject her man of 3yrs,in public for that matter..am just down and sad...

Its very obvious...she doesn't love him...what other explanation could be used to justify her actions?

I understand how betrayed, heartbroken and depressed he must be feeling right now, but as a man he has to put it behind him and move on.

Ojchizzy: My gud frnd of mine got dumped by his galfrnd jux because He told re dat he iz broke..nd will nt be giving hr d #100,000 she asked 4...she told him neva 2 cal, come nd see hr nd more till he has d moni...

That was very a very childish and unromantic action she took.

Love is a two way thing...if she demands for a 100k, then she has to prove it by her actions...you can't just sit idle and start demanding for this and that with no contribution whatsoever on your part towards that relationship.

Its very obvious...she doesn't love him.

Ojchizzy: I wonder Y most galz re lyk dis nd few re nt...it hurts me alot

You're right, most girls are like that...but there are still a few good ones out there.

A clear definition of the last days...

2 Timothy 3:2.  People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.

@Macdady01

The year is 2012 and many people around the globe are wondering if the end of the world is near. I don't think there has ever been such a widespread interest in this topic like there is today. And who can blame people for wondering, when you see what is happening to our world. The signs of the end are prevalent. War, famine, natural disasters, incredible and rapid increase in knowledge. Poisoning of the air and water. Birds of the air and the Fish of the seas dying in huge numbers, muslims terrorizing the world over a cartoon, boko haram and co killing in the name of religion, etc.

The signs are so strong now and the evidence is so clear that any person willing to accept the truth can see that the end of the world, as we know it, is near.

These verses predicted a great moral degeneration in our society. And also in the british society (since that's our main discussion)

Take a look at this passage also.

[b] 2 Peter 3:3-4 ... Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say, "Where is this 'coming' he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation." 5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God's word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare. [/b]

Can the british society be likened to the bible's definition of the last days...

Yes and most certainly!

Its no longer news that when you talk about the end times, majority of people, including you Macdaddy01 aka Logic boy, aka atheist, aka unbeliever, aka Mr give me proofs and facts, aka etc etc, will just laugh it off saying that "all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation."

But the truth is that England's nonchalant attitude towards christianity is just a fulfillment of God's word. Therefore I'm glad that it was you who made the discovery.

If you take your time to compare the signs in the world today to what we have in the bible, you'll see for yourself that its 100% authentic.

God created Satan as one of the best and most beautiful angels, but instead of being thankful, Satan became proud.

He thought he was better than everyone, even God.  Instead of loving God and doing what God planned, Satan began to fight God and tried to get other angels to sin.

The problem isn’t that God will not forgive Satan; the problem is that Satan will not stop fighting God. Even now he tries to get people to sin.

[quote author=frank3.16]Let's be sincere to ourselves, let's say all things and situations on earth remeains the same xcept that there is no promises of heaven or punishment of hell, would u still worship God?

In the old testament the people worshipped God despite no promises of hell or heaven. But today the fear of hell and the promise of heaven has been the core foundation of religion.
A ma once told me (he claimed to be a Jew) that the God he serves is too big to threaten us with hell in order to force us to worship him or bribe us with heaven to make us woership him. God wants us to worship him in truth and in spirit yet we are made to believe that we must worship him or...
So if there was no heaven or hell would u stll have worshipped him? take all insults and turn the other chick for him?[/quote]Yes I'd still worship him...

Can we use our native dialet to contribute...cos I've got some here.

eze udo

Mmalite "nnor" gugu

Chukwu mbe "o" chie

Odiga agbwa agbanw

Chukwu amami ife

Some whites can be very foolish at times...what the hell was he looking for inside the lions cage?

He's just lucky...I guess the lion wasn't really hungry or else he'd be history by now.

@Ileke-idi...

Take your time to read my previous posts...the answers you asked are there...

Thanks!

@ buzugee, @ Ileke-idi...

God did not send his son with the purpose or aim to die for us.
Jesus died for our sins, yes, but God did not need the death of his son to forgive sins.

Not to be misunderstood: Yes: Jesus came down on the earth; He lived a just life; the people (both Romans and Jews) cruxified him; He rose from the death; He ascended into heavens.  This is the story of Jesus. This is what happened to him. The above two statements I questioned are assumptions, or interpretations of the story of Jesus that I do not find strongly supported in the Bible.

The reason I believe many christians support the idea that God sent his son to die for us is twofold:

a. this is what they are told from sunday school on and is portrayed as one of the fundamentals of christianity; and

b. is based on the assumption that since God foreknows everything and therefore also Jesus’ death he must somehow also have ordained it.

I would like to start of with a very interesting parable that Jesus himself is telling. If you have a moment, please read the parable at the beginning of Mk.12, the ‘parable of the tenants’.(The verse I posted in my previous post re-read my post to see the verse in red)

I think we misread many passages in the NT. Many verses talk about God ‘giving’ his son. I don’t know exactly why, but we always sweem to read ‘death’ in it. If

Jesus gives his life then he gives his life! He might give his death also, but only in so far as his death is part of his life. In John 3.16 for example I can’t see a reference of Jesus death. It talks about his life; not his death. For example. no one really thinks of the death of christians (even though death might be a consequence) when reading Romans 12,1. ‘give life’ or ‘sacrifice’ does not necessarily imply death. (even though it can).

I do not see ‘a law from the Old Testament’ that Jesus had to die for.

According to Hebrews is Jesus explicitely NOT a priest in the tradition or accordance with Levi which tribe performed the killing sacraments, but according to Melchisedek, who was before the law was given, and therefore the tradition of sacrifices was started.

So all those sacrifices do not really apply to Jesus (in my opinion), neither is he the fullfillment of those.

According to Paul in  Romans 5:18 it is the righteousness, and not his death that brought about justification before God.

Also, from the times of Abraham by the latest, it was forbidden to offer human sacrifices to be killed. God could not possibly violate this law by purposely sending his own son to death.

If God is God then he really does not need a human sacrifice (or if you are trinitarian: a sacrifice of himself) to forgive sins. How on on the basis of what other than his souvereignity and mercy in the parable of the lost son in Luke 15 then did the father forgive his son when he asked to come back? Jesus was telling this parable BEFORE his death. How can Paul say that Abraham was justified by his faith?  No sacrifice has been offered.

The view of these things in my opinion dismisses the scandal that took place. They killed Jesus! Hey, they killed Jesus! Nairalanders wake up; they killed Jesus!!!!!!!!!! They killed the only one that was righteous!

No, God did not kill him; they did! He came and healed and loved and helped. And they killed him!!!!

Pride and lack of understanding...

LastApostle: Nairaland, My girlfriend invited me to an unschedule meeting with a strange man whom she introduced as her fiancee. I understand that she has even taken the rich man to her parents who certifies him and they have given their blessings to them.

The rich man offer to pay me the sum of N1,000,000 to steer clear of his ''wife'' as a contribution to all the assistance I have given her. it is to my credit that she is a graduate.
My girlfriend adviced me to accept the money offered me by her NEW man saying she had kept the affair secret from me because she never wish to hurt me as I am a good man.
What do I do?

Collect the money and move on...that is if the tale is true.

sinetheta: am in lekki lag

Then try unilag, lasu or any lagos based polytechnics.

Good luck!

God did not die for us...

John 3:16.  For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

There was never a passage in the bible where it was written that God sent his son Jesus to die...God sent his son to reconcile the world to himself. It indeed was a risky enterprise but the intention of his mission was not to die...see the passage below.

 Mark 12:1-8. Jesus then began to speak to them in parables: "A man planted a vineyard. He put a wall around it, dug a pit for the winepress and built a watchtower. Then he rented the vineyard to some farmers and moved to another place. 2 At harvest time he sent a servant to the tenants to collect from them some of the fruit of the vineyard. 3 But they seized him, beat him and sent him away empty-handed. 4 Then he sent another servant to them; they struck this man on the head and treated him shamefully. 5 He sent still another, and that one they killed. He sent many others; some of them they beat, others they killed.

6 "He had one left to send, a son, whom he loved. He sent him last of all, saying, 'They will respect my son.'

7 "But the tenants said to one another, 'This is the heir. Come, let's kill him, and the inheritance will be ours.' 8 So they took him and killed him, and threw him out of the vineyard.

Now...Jesus death came as a sign of love. As a sign of love that the world has never seen before...he loved us so much that he was willing to die for us...

1 peter 2:20-25. But how is it to your credit if you receive a beating for doing wrong and endure it? But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God. 21 To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps.

22 "He committed no sin,
and no deceit was found in his mouth."

23 When they hurled their insults at him, he did not retaliate; when he suffered, he made no threats. Instead, he entrusted himself to him who judges justly. 24 "He himself bore our sins" in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; "by his wounds you have been healed." 25 For "you were like sheep going astray," but now you have returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.

The cross is an invite to come and become a son and a daughter of God like the one they killed.

To also come to God’s family. And as an eternal sign. He rose Jesus from the death and gave him a name above all names...that at the name of Jesus, every kneel must bow and every tounge must confess that Jesus is lord.

I'm made this statement before, and I would repeat it again on this thread...

[quote author=Ileke-IdI]So you basically select what you deem appropriate, to excuse your subtue deviation from God?[/quote]Nope...I do what my bible tells me to do.

Matthew 11:16-19.  "To what can I compare this generation? They are like children sitting in the marketplaces and calling out to others:

17 "'We played the pipe for you,
and you did not dance;
we sang a dirge,
and you did not mourn.'

18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, 'He has a demon.' 19 The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.' But wisdom is proved right by her deeds."

Clearly God tells us (christians) to live our lives the way we want provided we don't displease him...cos its obvious that you can't please everyone.

So if you ask me, I'd say do what seems best to you...I choose to listen to highlife music, and I don't see it as a sin. Neither am I misquoting the scriptures to justify myself.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI]Where in the bible does it "okay" it to listen to any music that does not glorify God? I doubt highlife music glorify God o.[/quote]Jesus had much fun in the bible, he ate and mingled with sinners, (tax collectors) he caught fishes with his disciples and he joked and laughed with people of the world...but note one thing,

He didn't bring shame to God...his approach to those he met was a way he used to bring them closer to God. The bible didn't place any embargo on worldly music, but instead it made us understand that our thoughts and deeds should be christ like.

Cos that's the only way the world can see christ in us, and learn to love him too.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI]Correct me if I'm wrong, but arent Christians suppose to constantly fill their mind with God? i.e his praise, his thanks, his etc etc.[/quote]Yes we're supposed to praise him...but that doesn't mean we should put up a frowning look and carry our bible like some pharasiee of old...

As christians, you're meant to be the most jovial people on earth...check the life of Jesus, he spent only 3 years in his ministry, but under that short space of time, he had over 10,000 followers.

He was able to achieve that target because of his social lifestyle...therefore as christians, God wants us to be free with people cos your lifestyle can go a long way in convincing people that christianity isn't one old bored religion.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI]Funny, God is a jealous God, yet jealousy is forbidden in the Christian religion. lololol.[/quote]Do not question God...

[b] Isaiah 55:8.  "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD.


[quote author=Ileke-IdI]Thanks for not judging me [/quote]You're welcomed

[quote author=Ileke-IdI]Someone linked rnb/hihop to atheism, so would y6ou say you're atheist for listening to non-gospel songs?[/quote]There are cool highlife musics which aren't gospel but are ok for christians...I myself, I listen to Osadebe, Morocco, pammy udu bunch...to mention but a few.

Where you'll be tagged or seen as an atheist is when you begin spending more time on immoral or satanic musics...any music that doesn't glorify God or isn't about everyday life, culture, people and places should not be listened to by christians.

But don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to judge you, neither am I condemning you, cos I myself, I'm not perfect. I'm only speaking from my beliefs as a christian...you can't patronize immoral and satanic music and claim you're serving God...it doesn't work that way.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI]Do you listen to non-gospel music?[/quote]Yes but as I stated earlier, they're are mainly highlife music...

bendazum: Am thinking aloud.What's your views.Some are just too beautiful to be burned nah.Everybody gets the same treatment even in mortuary where a mad man can be stacked on top of a Pretty Lady. Like I said am thinking aloud!

Don't be deceived by the flesh...any one who's name isn't written in the lamb's book of life would be condemned to hell. Regardless of your looks.

candieangel12: i cant just fashi my babe na. i rlly like this woman. im not in a rush 2 get married and im not biased on marrying a man or woman. whoever God choses 4 me 2 marry, be it man or woman, i go marry. notin wrong wit that. so i shud i take my love home 2 meet the family?

Do whatever your heart tells you...I've given you my honest opinion about the whole issue. So the ball is now in your court.

But be very careful on your decision...cos life has no CTRL + Z.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI]. . . .in God?

Or to not have anything to do with religion?

I grew up with gospel song, so it has been imprinted in me.[/quote]Serving God isn't by force...if you don't believe in him, why waste your time listening to Gospel musics? That's hypocrisy if you ask me.

Your situation can be likened unto a christian who listens to islamic music, and then claims he has nothing to do with islam, or vise versa.

If you want to believe in God, make up your mind once and for all and stop hanging in the door way.

[quote author=virgin_vampire]I use to be a banker and its a long story anyway but a colleague of mine implicated me in a 2.1 million fraud of which i knew nothing about...the case has been in court for the past five years...later the lady became "born again" and asked for my forgiveness for the lie she told against me....BUT EVEN THOUGHT I WANNA FORGIVE HER BUT THE CASE IS STILL IN COURT AND HAS AFFECTED ME BADLY
I CANT TRAVEL OUT
I CANT MARRY
I CANT EVEN WORK PROPERLY COS OF THE PSYCHOLOGICAL TRAUMA[/quote]First I must sympathize with you...but as a christian, its God's will is that you receive comfort, therefore be comforted.

2 Chorinthians 1:3-4. Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, 4 who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves receive from God.

What has happened has happened...I don't know if any words of mine can be of use to you now...considering the years you lost as a result of this unfortunate incident.

Notwithstanding, I must tender my views...if she asks for forgiveness, forgive her. Cos she took a very bold step by making that confession to you.

[quote author=virgin_vampire]i therefore told her that she is not serious......but my pastor says all the same i should forgive[/quote]I would agree with your pastor here...I not it might be difficult, but as a Christian, you should know that forgiveness is a major criteria for gaining God's favour.

[quote author=virgin_vampire]what do u think is the best response to this....i was thinking of recording our conversation and taking it to court as evidence but on the other hand i dont wanna look devilish

Kindly advice[/quote]I wouldn't suggest that yet...

If she's truly born again as she claimed to be, then her confession should not be difficult for her to render to the court...she must strive hard to exonerate you, and not the other way round.

Therefore study her closely for physical evidence of her born again status. If her actions justify her claims, then relax cos the holy spirit won't give her a moments peace until you're out of there.

If the reverse is the case, then I would suggest you record her statement as evidence, and look for other relevant evidence to back up your innocence. And I'm sure that God would see you through.

God bless you.

k2039: Seriously for not telling me before the wedding is enough reason to divorce her,it simply means she cant be trusted

Well said...

Ojchizzy: My galfrnd caught me screwing hr frnd in my rum...I dint knw wat came over me..she seduced me nd I fell 4 It...My galfrnd came in wifout knocking nd she cut us in d act...wat can i do..pls help me...

She has left you for good...awake to that reality...give yourself some respect and learn to live responsibly next time.

Isaac: Pls help me i inluv wit a God fearing guy, he love and care of me in phycial an spiritual, giv out all to me but he is OND holder [size=15pt] why me is Bsc. [/size] now he want me to giv him #15,000 4 his laptop to be repair. am confuse to giv or not giv i only have #20,000 and i done want lose him. I need money 4 myself

A Bsc. Holder and you can't even express youself in simple terms.

Pathetic!