₦airaland Forum

You guys have been told many times to stop confusing yourselves.

There is a difference between Edo and Bini. All Bini bear Yoruba names to demonstrate their relationship to Oba from Ile-Ife, Uhle.

They no longer do it in revolt to their Yoruba origin and in solidarity with Edo to prove their allegiance to the land they conquered.

The revolt of the father of the present Oba from a renter of the land after each installation cannot fool the Ogiso as another Yoruba ploy. This is why they got the highest Court judgment to retain their land and keep Yoruba as tenant.

Which Edo word is ADE?

Just want to congratulate the Op.

Go and work for Trump!

Helinues,

I will not dispute any of your claims. Indeed Nigeria's market suddenly surpassed South Africa as the biggest in Africa by revised bookkeeping. So please realize that stats can be used anyway you want.

Nigeria has a Population of 200 million, even if half of them are poor and half "educated" consumers, you cannot compare their purchasing power to developed countries in Europe not to mention any African country.

European and Asian countries realize this. They do not impose their products on Africans out of ignorance or pity but because they know Africans in general and Nigeria in particular are suckers for foreign products and services.

Our leaders today want to be Billionaires in foreign currencies not in naira or cedes.

It will be suicidal for any African country to shun Nigerian market, the biggest in Africa when foreigners are using any mean to dump their products there. Including using neighboring countries ports.

Ghanaians have been able to produce inspiring leaders but not the market Nigeria has.

Imagine if Nkrumah had succeeded with the first Cocoa cartel well before Arab oil cartel.

What is so sophisticated and beyond the reach of Africans that we cannot produce ours at home?

Who put this foreign contract curse on us?

Inspite of all the infighting between Africans these days, Ghana remains our traditional brothers in most areas.

But when it comes to market, Ghana cannot even compete with Lagos.

Stop believing all the future sugar high they put on developing countries looking for places to exploit on short-term basis. Focus on your market right now, realities and how to wean ourselves off foreign products most of which are made up of discarded junk in exchange for our forex.

I admire your leaders but they never had the market of Nigeria to manage. Not even South Africa.

Like other prominent Africans around the world, looking for political or elected office by pandering to conservatives or extremist parties in Italy, Alberta Canada and Britain.

[quote author=wwwihy post=83561578]Rubbish write up and waste of time and space[/quote]I think finally, most Nigerians are waking up from our slumber and delusions after we have been rejected at home and abroad.

Chest beating, loud mouth and dollar rain have run out of steam. We were living on past glory going everywhere demanding rain checks for past glory.

Our greatest enemies are within, not from outside the Country. We are willing to see our country burn to ashes with this false sense of security that we can steal enough, loot our forex dry to buy and import anything we want.

Yet, some still ridiculed the OP.

Indians that used to sell their children to eat and send money home from Nigeria are now taking over the 500 Fortune companies or at least making their marks in business and science while reducing poverty at home.

But it is Nigerians that are celebrating their pictures on the walls of a couple of universities abroad.

Hit me again OP!

They’re immigrants to Canada. So why are they supporting far-right parties that want to reduce immigration?
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By Omar MoslehStar Edmonton
Melanie GreenStar Vancouver
Sun., Oct. 27, 2019timer9 min. read
Kulbir Singh Chawla really doesn’t like when he’s connected with a customer service representative with a foreign accent.

This, despite having an accent himself.

“Here in Canada, I would say don’t even employ Kulbir,” Chawla said of customer service jobs.

“Because I still don’t have that Canadian way of (speaking) fully.”

The most recent federal election saw a small but distinct cadre of people of colour and immigrants such as Chawla supporting and in some cases even running for far-right populist parties such as the People’s Party of Canada, the National Citizens Alliance and the Canadian Nationalist Party.

All of these parties wanted to reduce immigration and scrap Canada’s official multiculturalism policy.

Despite being an immigrant himself, Chawla says he supports these policies.

Chawla, an industrial engineer, came to Canada from India with his wife and daughter in 1999. He currently lives in Nova Scotia and calls himself a Canadian nationalist. When he first moved here, he considered himself left-leaning, but over the past two decades, he’s experienced what he calls a political awakening.

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It led to him attending yellow vest rallies at the movement’s peak, where he would wear a matching yellow turban. And people would call him racist.

“The left media would say this is a racist movement. And there I am with my turban. And it just breaks their narrative,” he said.

He was first drawn toward the Conservatives, then toward far-right, fringe parties such as the National Citizens Alliance, which in addition to advocating for lower taxes and the abolishment of the Bank of Canada Act, wants to reduce immigration levels to about 50,000 a year. Chawla previously ran for the National Advancement Party of Canada, the NCA’s predecessor, in Calgary Midnapore in a 2017 byelection.

He says some reasons his political stance shifted are political correctness and liberal “indoctrination” about issues such as white supremacy and racial profiling (the former he says doesn’t exist, the latter he believes is valid in some cases).

Kulbir Singh Chawla takes part in a yellow vest rally.

“It started with the yellow vest movement … It’s come up as a big, I will say wake-up movement for Canada and Canadians. It brought them together as well. So there’s a great deal of populism and nationalism going on,” Chawla said.

He compares nationalism to working for a corporation; the ultimate goal should be the betterment of the company, rather than advancing one’s own personal fortune. The same goes for living in a confederation.

It’s where his deep distaste for call centres that employ people with accents stems from. He said he believes it hurts Canada both economically and in terms of its national identity.

In particular, he is opposed to customer service being outsourced to other countries, for economic reasons — it takes jobs out of Canada and hurts the country’s GDP. It inspired him to create a Change.org petition urging the government and corporations to “Create call centres in Canada!”

But he acknowledges there’s an important cultural component as well.

“When I come here, if I found my own type of people speaking on the call … then it’s no different from being in India,” he said.

“We immigrants came to Canada for a whole different outlook on life. And we find it’s all changing, back to the same old Punjabi style.”

For parties such as the People’s Party of Canada that were accused of harbouring racist candidates and policies, there’s an obvious benefit to having candidates and supporters of colour, says Akaash Maharaj, a former senior resident at Massey College and CEO of the Mosaic Institute, an organization that helps bring together immigrants who have come to Canada from countries affected by conflict.

“There has been an effort by extreme right parties to try and play a game of blackface and brownface to inoculate themselves against accusations of racism by demonstrating that they have at least one or more members of their parties or candidates who are not white,” Maharaj said.

But the allure of anti-immigration policies for immigrants themselves is more complex.

“On the face of it, it looks absurd and I think it is absurd ... I wouldn’t say it’s widespread,” Maharaj said. “But it’s more common than one might expect.”

“It’s the old pull-up-the-ladder syndrome,” he added. “Now that they have made it in, they want to protect themselves from people exactly like themselves that harbour the same ambitions. They are afraid more people benefiting from Canada means that their share of the pie will somehow diminish.”

This phenomenon is even more common among recent immigrants when compared to first-generation Canadians or the descendants of immigrants, Maharaj noted.

Peter Loewen, a populism expert at the University of Toronto’s Munk School of Global Affairs and Public Policy, said when immigrants move to Canada, integrate into mainstream society and accept the status quo, there’s a quick transition to viewing themselves as Canadian — and therefore, different from the rest of the people coming here.

He points to the 2015 federal election, where the support for a niqab ban was higher among immigrants than native-born Canadians.

“That’s largely underwritten by a sense that immigration is tough and once you’ve gone through it, you expect people to go through it without any more accommodations than you’ve had,” he explained.

Populism sells well to immigrant communities because at its heart, it’s about a deep disaffection with the political class who are seen as unsympathetic or even antagonistic toward everyday people. Immigrants can often come from countries with political corruption.

But populism comes in different forms, says Drew Fagan, professor of public policy at Munk School and a former deputy minister in the Ontario government.

“The new strain of right-wing populism increasingly pits itself against subsets of the population like immigrants and minorities. Whereas left-wing populism pits itself against what is viewed as an unfair system,” he said. “It’s about structure as opposed to people.”

And what is emerging around the world, and in Canada, is far-right populism, Fagan added. Its members are largely religious, have reservations about diversity, and are disdainful of institutions or perceived elites.

From there, populism can devolve into nativism, a policy of promoting the interests of native inhabitants of a country against those of immigrants.

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This specific form of nationalism requires some sort of ethnic majority, which naturally leads to xenophobia, Islamophobia and racism, even in a country like Canada where multiculturalism is embedded in the country’s values.

And the solution, unfortunately, often involves demonization by placing blame on an external threat, according to Jon Allen, senior fellow at Munk School.

“It’s much more toxic and dangerous,” the former Canadian ambassador to Israel and Spain explained.

Ralston Coelho ran for the Canadian Nationalist Party in the 2019 federal election. Coelho, whose parents immigrated from India, is a member of the party because he supports reducing Canada's immigration levels.

“It’s based on circumstances you can’t control. You don’t choose your ethnicity. You don’t choose your gender or sexual orientation … It’s a throwback to an uglier time.”

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In the most recent federal election, Ralston Coelho ran in Quebec for the Canadian Nationalist Party, a far-right fringe party with the stated goal of maintaining the demographic status of Canada’s European-descended majority. Coelho is not part of that European-descended majority.

But Coelho, whose parents immigrated from India, is a member of the party because he supports reducing Canada’s immigration levels. He’s concerned about immigrants coming into Canada and living off social assistance, or entering the country with hidden criminal records or terrorism sympathies.

In an interview with Star Edmonton, he offered dubious numbers about how half of the immigrants who came to Canada in the 1980s are living on welfare, or that refugee migrants form a disproportionate number of homeless people in Canada. He was unable to cite a source for these numbers.

“My point is, at least with me, is we need to bring in the best people,” Coelho said.

He argues that it’s important to preserve Canada’s European-descended majority demographic because it was their policies and values that attracted immigrants in the first place.

“My parents came here for a higher standard of living … and they had no problem with it,” he said, adding that his mother supported his candidacy.

“This is a country that was built by people who were a majority from Europe. So I don’t see inconsistency on my part in supporting the Canadian Nationalist Party.”

On their website, the Canadian Nationalist Party says they would “put the ethnic majority before ethnic minorities.”

He said he doesn’t see any contradiction in supporting a party that says it would prioritize the needs of others, based on their ethnicity, over his own.

“If I was living in Japan or India or any other country, I’d be in favour for nationalism there. It’s just like, common courtesy,” he said. “When you come to my home, I expect you to respect my home and keep the best interests of the home in mind.”

Chawla says more recent immigrants to Canada are “basically piggybacking on the system.” He doesn’t believe diversity is Canada’s strength, and for that reason would like to see immigration levels reduced to 100,000 people or less annually, compared to the current target of 300,000.

“The reduction needs to happen, otherwise the flavour of Canada, the way it was founded by the forefathers of Canada … is getting affected.”

The argument that European ancestry is intrinsic to Canadian identity doesn’t hold water to Maharaj, who points out that Japan and India aren’t the same as Canada — they are nation states with a linked civic and ethnic identity.

“In a country like Canada, more than 95 per cent of the people living in this country are either immigrants or descendants of immigrants. An authentically Canadian experience has absolutely nothing to do with your racial ethnicity, or what your language or religion might be,” Maharaj said.

Alain Deng, one of the founding members of the People's Party of Canada, ran for the party in the federal election in the culturally diverse riding of Vancouver South.

“That’s where I see the arguments of the far right crumbling into absurdity. In fact, I would argue that the people who are being the most inauthentically Canadian are the far right. They have fundamentally misunderstood what our country has always been about.”

Alain Deng, one of the founding members of the PPC, ran for the party in the federal election in the culturally diverse riding of Vancouver South. He garnered 527 votes, or 1.2 per cent of the result.

A former Conservative party member, Deng joined the early ranks of the PPC because of his belief in free speech and frustration with political correctness. The party — which maintains libertarian values but includes supporters that are social conservatives and nationalists — called for a reduction in immigration to 150,000 people a year, with a higher percentage of economic immigrants.

In an interview during the federal election campaign, he said Canadian unity is far more important than diversity, and often repeated the phrase “Canadians first.”

“People are waking up. That’s why smart populism in this world gets the markets,” Deng said.

Deng vehemently denied accusations of racism, but he has a history of Islamophobic rhetoric on social media, most of which was removed following an iPolitics story in May.

“I’m not a racist or a bigot. I’m an immigrant from China. I escaped from a socialist dictatorship country. I was thirsty for freedom and democracy from a Western country,” he said. “But I’m totally against Islam and radical Islam.”

But what some refer to as populism, Andrew Parkin would simply call racism.

“I worry that labelling it as something else makes it disappear,” explained the executive director of the Environics Institute, a non-profit polling and research firm. “If people are targeting vulnerable members of the community. Call it what it is without painting a political theory.”

Maharaj has observed how ethnic groups that have never had conflict outside of Canada find themselves at odds with other immigrant communities once they arrive here due to different social practices and levels of economic success.

“Some of the racism one sees and some of the tensions one sees between different ethnic groups in Canada, are a somewhat unique Canadian creation,” Maharaj said.

The lure of populism, nativism and ultimately racism is strong in immigrant communities because most come from countries where cultural and racial divisions are the norm, he said. So pitching multiculturalism as an inherent virtue of Canada is not always an easy sell.

“Racism exists not only against non-white Canadians but within non-white Canadian communities against one another. That is in many ways the ugly little secret of the fight against racism,” he said.

“As the non-white population of Canada grows and becomes more complex, that truth will become more evident.”
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Sorry the comment was not meant for your type. You may understand it if you read it again but slowly this time.

Armaggedon:
Except you don't know how to express your thoughts properly, I expect you to know that Nnewi houses the biggest industrial cluster in Nigeria as confirmed by your VP.

How much does it take to distinguish free trade to illegal trade?

Everyone wants to bleed Nigeria, even Nigerians, the worst smugglers of imported goods and services into Nigeria.

Whatever his motive for establishing a plant in Nnewi, Nigerians have to understand that small towns and villages play a vital role in the development of a country.

Yes, enabling environment is important. Yet American businesses open plants in third world countries with zero enabling environment.

Nigerian business men go to virgin lands in East Africa to establish plants for importation into Nigeria.

So why not Nnewi or less developed areas than Lagos and Ogun? More Nigerian business men must do the same.

It is surprising that Ondo have to wait for Akeredolu to declare Ore an Enterprising zone.

It is easier for a real Lagosian to understand Oyo and Egba dialect than Ijebu dialect which is closer.

Mixing Ondo dialect with it is out of question. No Lagosian can understand Ondo dialect.

Even surprising, is the inability of Lagosian children to understand their own Awori dialect.

geosegun:
This is absolutely correct. The Lagos Yoruba is Oyo dialect with a little bit of Egba, Ijebu and Ondo dialect mixed with it. However, because these are also popular Yoruba dialects, its actually difficult to filter these minute mixed up. Hence, Oyo Yoruba is being spoken in Lagos.

Osaze007:
What are you saying
Lagos Yoruba is Oyo dialect
All of Yoruba from Lagos to kwara speaks Oyo dialect

Lagos Yoruba has different accent, tone and meaning but closer to Oyo.

It is still unbelievable how children of those that have benefited the most from the generosity, accommodation and trust of Yoruba become so virulent to their best friends not only in Nigeria but in the world.

If you know of any better friend, please mention them. Because they tolerate you does not mean they have nobody to lead them but you.

Haba! Fajuyi is a traitor, Banjo is a traitor, Soyinka is a traitor. Even Obasanjo, the first Nigerian to bring you out of wilderness after the war and assigned powerful positions to you is a traitor.

You have driven Yoruba children to the edge. They have to fight you back in your own words and deeds.

No matter the meaning of Yoruba, those who want to smear or malign the name would not stop.

The Professor gave an insight behind the reason Yoruba was already in existence before Ahmed Baba wrote the name.

OBA has yet to be disputed by any reputable scholar as Yoruba word in existence Before Christ.

Oyo still remain Yoruba word. OYO r' OBA or OYO OMO'BA or OYO eru OBA is not far fetch to Yoruba different dialects.

It makes no difference whether they are called YORUBA or YOO'BA.

Ignore some of the negative comments here, what is finally coming out is awareness from Nigerians that the days of imports are numbered.

The Greeks and Romans stole technology from Lower and Upper Egypt (Sudan), the Germans and British (called Barbarians) stole technology from Greeks and Romans, the Americans stole technology from Europe. The Japanese and Chinese stole technology from Americans.

You got the point?

Nigerians are excessively greedy trying to avoid the poverty trap. This is why locally made products are priced above imports.

The reason politicians salaries are above American or European politicians'.

No amount of artificial demand by Government can save locally made products. It is a start and incentive but the real demand come from people that can afford locally made products.

The most popular Yoruba dialect is now that of Lagos. That is without any English words.

I think most Yoruba still prefer Oyo dialect.

What do you say?

Whatever the veracity of his story, the pain is real. Some students have been allowed back after a break for various reasons acceptable to the governing authorities.

But please note that you can also study JD MD, MD MPH. Not in Nigeria though.

It takes stamina, rigorous effort and persistence to excel in most endeavors in life. Medical sciences and engineering are difficult because it takes special interest to continue.

As for medicine, I think the British system we adopted in Nigeria is dangerous without a brake in between the years of studies.

If this guy had not persisted, there was nothing to fall back on. Can you imagine all those years in school without your professional degree? Nobody tells their story of failure of shame and embarrassment not to mention disappointed parents.

It must be broken down into two professional degrees so that if anyone fails to make the second part, she can fall back on the first degree.

Thank God, most Countries are cutting down on the 24 hours shifts these professional students are forced to go through in the name of fortifying them for the future.

It is barbaric and exploitative. Indeed, it also contributes to the greed some of them exhibit. Even in Britain and America, you have to bill Medicaid and National Health Services aplenty or work to death to become rich.

Kudo to survivals.

Sir, your thinking does not meet any economic model even in Nigeria where supply and demand fail.

Any Country would feel the loss of about 200 million people even if only half of them eat rice.

What is the population of France, England, Germany or the Switzerland compared to Nigerians demand for rice.

Do you remember people's drink (champagne) demand in Nigeria?

kotv:
Nigerians are so easily deceived, it is sad. You have to be very stupid or gullible to believe the accuracy of this report. Thailand and India are the two largest rice exporters to all over the world, especially Asia and African countries. How gullible do you have to be to think Nigeria closure will affect both countries when they have larger markets than Nigeria they cater to. Did other African countries and Asian countries, including Middle Eastern countries, close their borders too?

Even if all you wrote is true, does that justify killer instinct mentality?

Princedapace:
What removed GEJ were two factors :

One, the northern born to rule elements felt he is using their own time to rule. They felt it was the time for north to rule. That was the major thing. Sit down with a northern politician, he feels that the entire Nigeria belongs to him. He is so power drunk and ready to settle anything in war front. Boko Haram was a tool used to discredit GEJ. It is a global known tactics. And GEJ had a lot of northerners in key positions, they all became sentimental and worked against him. The confusion he faced made it easy for people to lie to him and loot.

The second factor was the South west factor. South west is no different from northern leaders. They wanted more of their sons into GEJ govt. While GEJ had sizeable numbers of easterners and northerners in govt, south west became mad at this especially, the fact that he gave south easterners voices. South west forgot that they ruled for 8 good years uninterrupted.

This is why i have always preached about a system of govt that takes away the competition for power at the central level. The competition at the central level will only promote poor leadership, hatred and malice. I just wish we can get sense someday.

The best source so far.

Why is it some of you guys never have a good wish?

Even if he is a political opponent and you heard he was attacked.

Evil follow those who wish others evil.

FYI, Jonathan elected Buhari by throwing all the goodwill he got across the country away

Ignorance could be a debilitating disease.

FFK and those that defined him should not include YORUBA in their lexicon.

Yoruba has been in existence as a name of a people before Hausa or FULANI became aware of one another.

Amed Baba was the first that we know to put it into writing in Songhai.

Honestly, you guys need to cut out these senseless insults. We should be able to distinguish Intra-Africa Trade from illegal trade no matter which part of the border you are.

Think about the age of your leaders when they fought to get you political Independence and your own age right now.

Yet, economic Independence is beyond you. Why do you waste all the intellect, grace and strength you need grabbing one another's throats instead of sorting out the complications of open borders.

Your real enemies are foreigners dumping their goods and services on you to discourage local African production.

I know they are looking for maximum attention but a community project or two with their wasted money and their specialized skill could have been more fruitful.

Every region should retire back to their enclaves. Obviously our development value, mentality and progress are not the same.

The British, as usual, presented a paternalistic view of trying to help and civilize every Region when in fact they were exploiting and milking resources out of us.

How could a country that boast of the biggest city in Black Africa become a cultural dependent city of Western values today?

Nigeria is a drag on the West.

Those who have never done anything great or achieve great height celebrate little armourphous entitlement that can be taken away from them by Fiat.

Who can take Nigerian citizenship away from you but yourselves.

ajl:
Brainless people. While you all suppose to be crying for yourselves. Running to the countries of the same people who took some of your ancestors as slaves, raped and virtually obliterated your cultures and religions, and turned your personality in and out to the point of self-hate.

Dont get me wrong. I have 2 passports and a means to get the third one but to me it's not something to celebrate. Nigerians are surely different beings. Reasons heartless politicians "Bleep" the people right, left, and center because most don't stand or believe in anything. Almost a perfect fit to the description of Lugard.

I do not want to spoil your euphoria but even when some of you are "educated", not even all that cream that bleach you lighter can clean your gutter mind and heads that have been sacrificed to colo-mentality.

Check out the history books on the Jews in Europe, Japanese in USA and lately Spanish. Forget about the children of the soil, the American Indians or AA.

Your eyes go clear quick quick. I hope your relatives still extend saving bridge to you when they bounce on you.

They turn this lady into heroine by trying to humiliate her.

They managed to turn ordinary trip back home into a big deal.

Odesons.

Anyway, Madam. Buhari needs one young assistant lady around 25 for small small body massage, I nor say sex O!

This info is very educative. We do have engineering students in many of our universities.

Some of them need to get hold of those machines few or lacking on the farms, break them down and reassemble them with locally made parts.

There is no excuse for looking for forex to import what we can make locally after about 60 years.