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Gamine:
See,

This thread is not for all em questions

Its for Christians, married or unmarried

i really do not have to explain anything to you here

so please don't derail the topic.

Ok. . . .just say you can't explain. . . .sorry for derailing you thread. . . . am out. . . . . .

[quote author=pilgrim.1 link=topic=151765.msg2946146#msg2946146 date=1224073420]@mazaje,

That's all there is. Since He didn't ask you, what's your worry? He knows whom He asked; and if you're not included, why legislate for them?

You see the one thing that amazes me is the irrationality of people who feel they know too much about their own little world that they can't see why others live. There are many people with various religious and atheistic persuasions in their lives. I don't see how many people have been too disturbed harping on them the way you guys do. If it is not my worry, why do I fight them, or allow their worldviews to upset me? I don't even have to be rude to them in order to present my own worldview - and this is something you can think about. Whatever anyone says he holds as his persuasion on life, as long as he hasn't made his worldview a requirement of how I live my own persuasions, why should I seek every single time to castigate him? What would I gain from that?

He didn't ask you - He asked others, and those He asked are not complaining: what then is the problem?

I believe we can demonstrate a bit more of maturity in these matters. Don't let this attitude continue to define how you live your own life. If otherwise, no worries.

Shalom.[/quote]i just want to know why a god that own everything is still in need of gifts from the people he supposedly created to the extent of saying that they people he supposedly created rub him because they refuse to give him gifts. . . . . why does god need people's gifts and offering? in the old testament god accepted animals as sacrifice? why does god need animals as scarifice? why does god need money? he is suppose to give the church money since he owns and knows everything.

Gamine:
Oh my.

You really do not know

You have heard of someone called satan sha?

neither do you understand what a marriage is.

you said i don't know what it means to be a christain and i asked you who the real chriatain is because there are over 30,000 types of christainity. . .  then again you are here telling me about satan. . . .  who is satan? does he reside beside you house? is he a negro or a caucasian? is he tall or short? what language does he speak? have you ever seen him?. . . . what makes you feel that i do not understand what marriage is? do christains understand marriage more than non christains? why are the divorce rate the same between christains and non christains? why is there no universally accepted christainity?. . . .

Gamine:
@Mazaje.

You don't know what it means to be Christian, why are you commenting here

what do you mean that i don't know what it means to be christain? by the way who and what is a christain? whose christianity is the real christainity? is it the catholics, the olumba olumba/white garment wearing christains, is it the mormons, pentacostal christains, orthodox christains, anglicans, lutherian christains, baptist christain? there are more than 30,000 kinds of christainity so which is the real christainity? There is NO Universal christainity. . . .  every body has his/her belief and interpretation of the bible so who are the real christains and what does it mean to be a christain? I know you will say that a christain is some one who follows the bible but then again which is the true bible? there so many different types of bibles. . . the catholics have theirs so do the jehova witness. . .  the ethopain christains have theirs just as the greek orthodox christains have theirs too . . . .  so who is the real christain and what does it take to be one? a catholic fundamentalist will tell you that you are not a christain despite all you assertions. . . .  a jehova witness will tell you that you are lost despite all you claims of being a christain. . . . i know so many christains that will tell you that you are not a christain if you don't attend their church . . .  why is there no universally accepted christainity?

uchkochi:
Jesus himself cursed the fig tree,how will a man steal from the church,they deserve to be cursed because some problems only answer to curses.Oyedepo is not just a pastor He is a prophet an Agent of change to protect Gods people. God honours the words of His prophet.havent you read of how[b] Elijah killed the prophets of Baal.[/b]
The Church is in the days of vengeance when God is going to comfort all that mourn.Paul the apostle cursed Elimas to be blind for a season.

see this deluded lunatic justifying people's killings because it was written in the bible. . . .  but then again the same bible said thou shall not kill. . . . ohhh i for got. . . .  its ok to kill the unbeliever. . . . . . if people reason like you and the writters of your bible then all non christains are supposed to be killed abi?. . . .  later some christain apologist will come here and point their dirty stinking fingers at moslems. . . . . . when the bible is no better than the koran in supporting death and destruction of the unbelievers. . . . . .

[quote author=pilgrim.1 link=topic=151765.msg2945529#msg2945529 date=1224064696]The moment he gives me an answer, he will read from me. [/quote]No he is'nt asking me, but he has asked people in the bible and it is a christain tradition to give money unto god, infact catholics used money as some form of indulgence back in the days to bribe their god to that he will let them enter heaven when they die. . . . even though that tradition has stopped but it is still a christain way of doing things. . . why would people offer money to god? some people give food stuffs, cars, tv, etc during harvest and thanks giving. . . . why cant people just say thank you to god in prayers. . . why must they give him things? i thought he owns everything. . . . why does he need people's money and gift items?offering time blessing time they always say in churches? why must you offer unto god before you get blessed? why do people offer unto god? why does god need money all the time?

Christians that insist on signing pre nups are displaying their lack (or limited amount) of faith. If you prayed to God
to bless your marriage and God gave you the go ahead, then why are you signing a pre nup ?

Christians that have faith believe from the bottom of their hearts that God will provide in time
of need, so the need for a pre nup does not arise.

Again, christians that insist on signing pre nups are displaying their lack (or limited) amount of faith.

When Donald Trump divorced Ivana Trump, he had to cough out half of his fortune, but he
bounced back and is a billionaire today.

Real christians do not need to sign a pre nup because they have faith that either way, God will
always provide for them.

Christain marriages are ending up at a fast rate just as that of non christains and you are here talking about faith? [

Another faceless republican. . . . . . Only the base who will never vote for obama will buy this crap. . . . sean hannity, rush limburgh. . . ann coulter. . . .larz larson etc. . . . . . . . hillary tried it and it failed. . . . . . .

[quote author=pilgrim.1 link=topic=151765.msg2940796#msg2940796 date=1223983269]I'm still asking you the same question: did He ask YOU to give Him anything and force it on YOU?[/quote]the biblical god said people rob him when they refuse to pay/offer things unto him and you are here talking about me. i am talking about his commandments in the bible and the question still remains. . . . why would a god that owns everything depend on people to give/offer things unto him? does that makes sense to you?

[quote author=pilgrim.1 link=topic=151765.msg2940139#msg2940139 date=1223976319]@mazaje,

How body?
What's your problem, mazaje? Has He asked you to give Him anything and forced it on you?[/quote]it is writting in the bible, the biblical god said that people rob him when the refuse to pay/give their tithes and offering. why would a god that has and owns everything demand people to offer anything unto him?

huxley:
According to the Quran (72: 1-15) some jinns flew up to heaven to eavesdrop on the reading of the Quran taking place there. Is that true?

Meteorites are flaming darts thrown by angels at jinns to keep them out of heaven. True?

These jinns overhead the message that Allah is one and had no wife or children. True?

olumba olumba? is the guy a calabar man?

The people in Finland do not fast and pray yet jobs are readily available if you are qualified. . . .

Cayon:
but tell me, how do you explain the great number of believers amongst people who work as scientists, as astronomers, as teachers, as physicists. They should be all atheists, no? their work is to discover the rules, the evolution, the universe, , and yet they see God and the perfection of his work better than anyone

hmm, oh what a tangled web we weave

he asked a question instead of answering you are running wild trying to say something else. . . abi you don become sarah palin?

why does and all powerfull force/being who all everything need money from his creation? why do people have to offer unto god? is a a mafia cappon? why do people need to sow seeds? but then again god owns all things. he owns all things and needs to be given money to massage his ego. . . . . open your eyes people. . . . . .

KunleOshob:
Ooparts: scientific and archaelogical evidence of God and the super natural http://www.s8int.com/ http://www.s8int.com/dna1.html

[quote author=davidylan* link=topic=179191.msg2896142#msg2896142 date=1223174643]Did the early apostles obey constituted authority? - Yes, even apostle Peter encourages that in his epistle and asks us to pray for our political leaders.
Did the early apostles live peacefully with their neighbours? - Yes, we see no case where they deliberately tried to disturb public peace.
Did they love their neighbours? - Sure.
Where they humble men? - Yes.

What was different? - They were not content to watch their neighbours go to hell all in the name of "respecting their religions/philosophies".[/quote]jesus(god) did non of these in the old testament he was violent. . . . . . . he killed, maimed, destroyed, tore down,ordered people to enslave, steal , looted , accepted people as scarifice and did so many henious crimes in the old testament. . . . . . . .

Frizy:
She must give up her faith.

why do muslims always feel superior?

[quote author=davidylan* link=topic=177704.msg2885060#msg2885060 date=1222977042]To expose false worship is not the same as to mock. You have a choice . . . continue mocking.[/quote]false worship says who? you? keep on trying to expose it won't be for too long. . . . . .

[quote author=davidylan* link=topic=177704.msg2885019#msg2885019 date=1222976608]I wont bother explaining . . . enjoy mocking now. You wont be doing that for too long.[/quote]of course i wont, you have mocked allah and the virgin mary too, you wont be doing that for too long too. . . .

[quote author=davidylan* link=topic=177704.msg2884995#msg2884995 date=1222976366]christianity has nothing to do with morality.[/quote] wetin man no go hear from this apologist. . . . . . .

huxley dey don bulala you commot for the thread abi?

i smell unnecessary envy, anger and jealousy from the poster. . . . . . .

donnie:
What is all this talk about fair or not fair? He is the porter, you are the clay. What right does the clay have to ask the porter why this or that? The porter without a second thought will remove and break in pieces any piece of clay that dosnt fit his design or purpose and the clay can't say a Word to him. That's what we call the righteousness of God. It is by faith from 1st to last. Only one way- Jesus, son of the living God!

dogma no be small thing see how person dey assert with authority wetin him no fix proof. . . . . .

Chrisbenogor:
The whole hell concept sucks, some have already been made by the potter to be in heaven so why bother, if huxley has been predestined to be there he will be there no matter how much of an atheist he is today ( no offence meant oh ) and no matter how much of a christian some people are they will not still make it, how nice, [b]if hitler can be in the same place as the 6 million jews he annihilated, who is talking about Justice eh?[/b]When God walks into a room morality disappears through the backdoor, so never mind folks the book has been written already, me na heaven I go dey no matter what! lol

This sums it up. . . . . . . .

[quote author=davidylan* link=topic=177704.msg2875660#msg2875660 date=1222825813]Its more than fair. You must pass an exam to qualify for college . . . is this system fair to those with an IQ lower than 50, the guy with cerebral palsy, the law abiding citizen who can't afford college all for no fault of theirs?

To be entirely honest no one has an excuse or can claim they've never heard about Jesus. Its laughable to imagine someone like Huxley is planning to use that defence.

Here's what really gets me thinking . . . why do these people spend so much time and energy to prove God doesnt exist but yet are worried about entry into heaven?[/quote]i have meet so many people in thailand who have NEVER heard about jesus in 2006, that event/encounter was what really changed my perception about religion and god in general. . . .  what the heck are you talkin  about?  i have seen a group of people in north korea on TV who have never heard about jesus in a televised documentary on the god channel . . . .  who feeds you this crap about people  knowing about jesus the world over?  have you been to indai, china, thailand, burma, mongolia,sri-lanka etc go there and see for your self there are millions that have not heard about your jesus. . . . .  stop deluding yourself into believing that every body has had about your jesus. . . . . . it might sound strange to you but millions have'nt. . . . . .i was astonished when i first went to thailand and saw people who do not even know what i was talking about when i told them that i was a christain(because i was a christain at that time). . . . . . .

darfur:
i wont call her stupid. i wont even call the republican politicians stupid. i wont call fox news stupid. they all know what they are doing.
i wont call the ignorant mainly white blue collar republican block stupid(i'll rather call them ignorant).

for the people in nairaland who stood out and vehemently defended her IQ and executive experience above that of both Obama and Biden, people who said she is better prepared than the two democratic candidates and stood on their ground, defending a stupid and delusional statement with pages and pages of posts in different threads, people like Kobojunkie and Tayo D, i will say they are a little bit below the stupidity level, closer to psychotic level.

these guys let their hatred for Obama to becloud their thinking faculty. i have no qualms with them hating Obama, that is fair. I hate Hillary the same way. and even though i'll vote for Pallin instead of Hillary if the 2 were to contest, i wont be stupid not to know who is brainy and even if i chose not to praise hillary i will not write pages of baseless defense of pallin's IQ over hillary just b/c i hate hillay

for attempting to decieve nairaland members with baseless statements
for directly or indirectly insulting nairaland members who tried to argue with them
for showing great disrespect for opposing views
for promoting sheer ignorance over common sense
for loosing their minds in their hatred for Obama . . .

today . . . . .30th sept 2008. . .

[size=18pt] Kobojunkie and Tayo D . . . .are

. .the worst persons in the world [/size]

Keith Olbermann is that you?

huxley:
John 14: 6
Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

Is this true? No one goes onto Father but through Jesus? How about the millions of people who go about their daily lives without so much as acknowledging Jesus? Are they not going to meet the Father?

If they cannot meet the Father, it follows that they will end up in hell. Yes, the ordinary man, woman, child, who has been a law-abiding citizen, done humanitarian acts, served his country and people dutifully, will end up in the same place as (presumably) Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, Charlemagne, Constantine, etc, etc.

Does this system of justice seem fair?

expect the christains to come up here and start giving you some outlandish explanations. . . . . .

[quote author=davidylan* link=topic=176976.msg2867068#msg2867068 date=1222643985]Then she will bear the consequences alone no? why is it such a pain to you?

don't need to . . . i'm not begging you to believe my claim. Believe whatever you want. haba . . . na fight?

But you sure go around trying to bear someone else's headache. You're not a sinner . . . bravo to you. Leave us alone.[/quote]i wont leave you alone. . . . . . . .

[quote author=davidylan* link=topic=176976.msg2866888#msg2866888 date=1222640062]don't burst your jugular. She simply made a statement of her own personal belief, did she put a gun to ur head to accept it?
No wonder even Chrisbenogor wonders if you have joy at all.

Lighten up bro.[/quote]what if her beliefs are wrong? you claim that christ is the only way so its up to you to prove it. . . . .i believe i have far more joy than you. . . . . i am no sinner and i don't go around feeling i have to massage the ego of an imaginary being who feels my good doings are like flity rags in his eyes. . .  i don't go around feeling sad and guilty because an imaginary malovalent being claims i am a sinner and needs to die, i do what ever i like and accept the consequences and live with it, i don't have to massage the ego of an imaginary being by praising him all the time incase he gets angry with me and does'nt provide for my needs. . . . i am far more joyful than you can ever imagine. . . the only person/being that is not joyful is your manovalent god that needs to be parised and thanked all day like a village chief else he gets angry and release his fury on you like a mad dog. . . . . i don't need any one to sing me praise before i become joyful the only being that needs his ego massaged before he gets happy is you imaginary god. . . .

Chrisbenogor:
O boy you no get joy oh

wetin you mean by that

Gamine:
people should stop saying this, if ur parents were christains, if we were colonized by muslims thingy thingy. . . .

I should be the most confused pesin in the world because of my background

but i chose Christ, because He is indeed the Way!

christ is the way to where and what? how do you know he is the way? why is allah not the way? what makes buddah a false god? how do you know? the only reason you left islam for christianity was because you had some exposure to christains/christianity. if you were living in some where like zamfara state or pakistan and had little or no exposure to christains/christianity you woud have still been a moslem your exposure to christains is what made you change your mind, i was a moslem before too, my exposure to christains made me change my religion to christainity just as my exposure to the real world made me to become an athiest. . . . . .