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n3xt:
Far, far cheaper.

Let’s compare Apple with Apple now.

Let’s assume we want to cover a room (3.6m x 3.6m) plain design with ceiling rose at the center.

Using POP
POP - N4,000/sqm (material and labour)
3.6 x 3.6 x N4000 = N51,840

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Using Plasterboard
Each board is 3.6sqm
Total coverage area is 12.96sqm

That means we need 3.6 boards to cover the room.
Call any supplier online and ask how much is a plasterboard of 3.6m x 3.6m x 12mm

N6,000 x 3.6 boards = N21,600

Buy 1 bag of POP plaster for cornices, screeding and installation - N5,000

Let’s make it pro!
Buy angle, beed and screw etc for the installation. Each is sold at N450
Buy 20 pcs = N9,000

Plasterboard installation is done 400 per sqm. Multiply by 12.96sqm = N5,200

Screeding is done shikini naira pere. N3,000


So pros in the house, what have I missed out? Please kindly add it.

Let’s stop scaring people. Plasterboard is cheaper than N4,000/sqm POP

I just completed over 1,000sqm installation so I know what I’m talking about.


The most interesting part is this can be achieved in one day once your materials are ready.


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I noticed I omitted the cost of casting the cornice and other small POP installation materials. Let’s add N7,000

It’s still not expensive than regular POP.

Impressive!!! I love it when things are expressed in numbers. We may have a deal on this job once we get to that stage.

Plasterboards brings out the finest details in ceiling. Far neater and detailed when compared to POP.

Thanks for this analysis.

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Nice work you got there - But is plasterboard ceiling cheaper than POP?

I like plaster board but was told that it is far more expensive than POP

n3xt:
A board of 1.2m (w) x 3m (h) by 12mm thickness with total coverage of 3.6m2 sells for N6,000

10mm thickness is lesser and there are more expensive ones.

I am thinking of using plaster board for my ceiling but have the impression that it is far more expensive than POP - But your analysis here is showing that it is quite competitive compared to POP - In summary, is it cheaper than POP? Overseas, they hardly use POP - They use boards mostly.

Procontractor:
What do you think about this so far?

I love the attention to details. That's what is lacking in most artisan works in Nigeria. Not paying attention to the smallest details.

Elderly people, over weight and those with existing sickness should watch it in this corona season. keep our elderly people safe.

drkay:
Just as predicted. I know you dont owe him or anyone here any explanation or review about the said guy. I dont know him personally, other than I've recently referred a subordinate at work to him recently.
Sir, in as much as this can be true, the hslbroker guy didn't manage the situation properly. He wasnt sick when the money was being transferred into his account. Then, why didn't he return their money or directed them to where their materials were, if he had procured them?
I directed somebody to contact him via his WhatsApp number that was copied on his thread and he responded well, the guy would have probably contacted him to seal a deal with him, after this Eid holiday if not for this thing that pop up.
He has been persistently seeing the allegations against him here and some of his close associates here would have probably contacted him to ask him questions. He really shouldn't hinge his refusal to do the appropriate thing on those flimsy excuses.
He lost his fone but he has been having access to Nairaland abi? 3m no be beans abeg.
I think he has lost his reputation here, if he had any ab initio and any attempt to salvage his already dent reputation should be discouraged. His next victim may be someone dearie to you Sir.

I don't why this is generating so much issue. I agreed that he may not have managed my own situation well by not carrying me along. All my windows have been delivered and installed and I am very happy with the quality of the job - infact the best I have seen. I already had windows but opened up more walls for more windows. That was why I engaged him and not the former guy that earlier did my first window. The people within my neighborhood that are still building liked the precision and cleanliness of the windows collected his number for him to deliver for them. I am not the type that will crucify him because he delayed on the delivery time. Whatever may have happened between me and him, the fact that he delivered my work far beyond my expectation in terms of quality and detailing made me to forget about the anger I had before.

As I said, I am not holding brief for him but I am talking from my own angle. If you feel you have issue with him, engage him to get it resolved. I don't know his transaction with the guy that sent him 3M and under what terms and conditions. Please I am always open- minded and I always exercise utmost caution when it comes to accusing someone of something. The good thing is that I have my windows already installed and I didn't stop others within my area from engaging him. As Hajji always say, do your due diligence.

Juliearth:
You are right my brother. Have you heard of YAHSII? Its an NGO that caters for issues like this.

Very nice if one exist. It is necessary. Sometimes, when I take a look at some poor adolescent girls, I feel for them. You wonder how their daily lives goes.

I feel for young girls from poor homes. Things that are supposed to be of necessity. Don't be surprise that some can't even afford tissue paper for their cycle.

There are some ghettos you see and you imagine the kind of hygiene and sanitation they will apply in their toilets. Young and adolescent girls suffers a lot in that kind of places.

One international NGO invited me to be part of team to carry out evaluation work on the effect of poverty and conflict on adolescent girls. But the location of the assignment made me not to participate even though the pay was ok.

Girls from poor background deserves monetary or in kind assistant in seeing off their cycles. Just to mention, when I was in Scotland, there was an NGO called "Capability Scotland". They support young poor girls and physically challenged adults with vouchers that they could use to buy sanitary pads and tissue paper at Tesco supermarket. The voucher can't be used to buy any other thing in the supermarket except sanitary pads. I wished an NGO in Nigeria could copy this kind of assistance.

Who is Ireland? Joint statement from Germany, UK and France would have made more sense. That's how those European powers act if they want to put you under pressure, they will issue joint statement to send a clear signal.

The worst will be if Pompeo, US secretary of state now issues his own or the white house press secretary, then know that your matter don pass be careful

Our standards are terribly low in this country. Every facets of our lives have been bastardized. This has even made our people to start accepting low standards things as normal. Some uninformed persons have already started commenting " nice one".

I ask what is nice about the archaic and antiquity zoo shown in that place. Please take time and look at other people's zoos talk more of school of wildlife.

They saw a technocrat in the person of Dr. Alex Otti to be voted as a governor and they went for someone else. Election has consequences.
Nigerian electorates are the least informed in the whole world. Always influenced by mundane things.

They should face it. Shabi na una say na de turn of Ngwa man to be governor? Ngwanu!, o setigo

Waste of money and resources - God punish Nigerian politicians. Please focus on human capacity development and productive transformation of individual status and communities - These are the things that will banish poverty and not white elephant projects. How many planes will land in Ebonyi state? It is the planes and private jets of politicians and governors that will be landing there

Focus on capacity building for people and not all these billion white elephant projects that the Indians and Lebanese will end up putting up a poor quality work. The money Anambra and Ebonyi are using to build airports could put all roads and public water works to good standard and rehabilitate all the village primary and secondary schools that are dilapidated. But as usual, their praise singers will come after me. Who cares?

Uae01Dirham:
If na Lagos airport

All those custom officers with tribal marks will give her better bill.


Yes! I said tribal marks! We know them

You sabi them. I hate to encounter any security agent with tribal marks. They are the most tribalistic, crude and backwards in their dealings with others.

My Dad's favourite then. With Stephen Osita Osadebe's "People's club" music track playing, the man would take down bottles of life larger in the 80's.

My concern is not even the camels, it is about the quality of the school in the background.
Our leaders are damm wicked!!

Imagine the kind of pupils that will come out from this kind of environment.

Environment has a way of moulding character and behaviours. Our educational environment is always the worst.

First time seeing an open gutter in an European country. Throughout my stay in Europe, I never saw any Naija-style open gutter. From the university pictures shown, I could see one , though very neat unlike the Naija type with all sorts of dirty water and plastics.

CAPSLOCKED:
CHRISTIANS IN NIGERIA, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW STUPID YOU SOUND WHEN YOU CALL ISRAEL GOD'S OWN NATION, AND EVEN GO ON TO CALL ON THE "GOD OF ISRAEL".
MIGHTY MORØNS. YOU DON'T SEE THERE'S AN IMBALANCE SOMEWHERE?

You said it better. Ignorance among Christians folks in Nigeria is sickening. The way our religious leaders, pastors and priests elevates Israel as holy land makes me sad. Very racist set of people.

I am a Catholic and during lenten period, there is a section of our lenten liturgy where we say prayer for Israel, invoking God's blessings on them for being the first to receive the good news (ie word of God).

For what exactly? Even if they were the first, things have changed. My Igbo brothers would be here worshipping anything Israel but don't know how their people are being maltreated over there despite their claim of so called jewish connection.

Israel will have issues with their Arab neighbours and some Nigerians will be siding them because they are "Gods" people. Who told you that?

Badgers14:
Do you mind sharing how you were able to accomplish an accommodation for emergency situations on your window protectors.. do you have any pictures?

What I meant is that my toilet, stores and some other smaller places have single iron protector. This single iron protector could easily be broken under intense pressure if you are in emergency situation and wants to eject or exit the building. You break the protector and exit. This will be difficult with those strong iron protectors embedded inside the window walls. However, if your area is prone to armed robbery and burglary attacks, please safety first. Go for strong iron protectors and cover the whole place

qdlvy:
Hello to everybody. Long time lurker here. Got a few questions - any reason as to why windows from build pictures I have seen here are very small?
Why are the roofs so tall? Any aesthetically pleasing alternatives to the ugly burglary proof iron bars?

You can decide to use rectangular - horizontal windows instead of the tiny vertical commonly used here despite the fact that our weather is hot. The reason for the tiny windows are cost as the windows are billed based on the measurement.

I used 2600x1400 rectangular sliding windows for rooms and lesser measurements for other places.

As for the burglary, I use the normal white horizontal pipes. Maximum of 4 for downstairs windows and just two and one for upstairs. In my upstairs, I used single white iron pipe for toilet and some other smaller places. My burglary is just to protect my kids from falling from the windows and not for a thief.

I hate the crude and un aesthetically appealing burglaries use in Nigeria. It makes the windows looks crude. You will see a high rise building with burglary everywhere and I asked for what exactly. Will an armed rubber climb up to that length of building to steal.

If given way, I will do away with the burglary thing and leave my windows like that. Any thief that remembers me, I wll host him and offer him drink

See one of the large windows I did and it will carry only 3 straight white horizontal pipes that will align with the white window blinds that I will put so that when the window blinds are open, it will cover the white burglary pipe somehow. Also consider emergency exit when designing your burglary. You shouldn't just have the thief in mind when designing your window protector, consider also emergency situations on how to eject or exit the building.

Nigeria is a pit of corruption. Greed will kill all of us. It is not about the law maker, it is about the Nigerian system. The law makers are made from us.

Our value system need to change and be growth and progressive oriented. These guys travel abroad and see development and yet will come and continue in the profligacy and wastages without caring about the masses.

They want the masses to continue to worship them. Those outside the government are even worse as they are waiting for the opportunity to pounce on the common treasury and steal a hell out of the coffers.

Nigerian senior lawyers and money. When you go to his chambers now, he is paying his young and junior lawyers 20k per month.

I know a lady that has been complaining bitterly about her meager pay as a lawyer. As at the time I did a call center job back in 2005, I was earning 90k per month then why she was earning a little above 15k in one senior lawyer chamber.

More than 15 years down the line, she is not earning up to 50k in the chamber where she is when I have move on speedily on career ladder.

I told her to set up her chamber and start with estate and building management at least with my town people that have properties here in Lagos. Today she is managing 3 buildings, less than five months after going solo. Recently, a land was sold at Amuwo Odofin and she got 5% legal fee of about 350k which was her 7 months salary when she was toying in one man's chamber.

Some times, you have to leave your comfort zone to pursue your dream.

gungab:
Common Meenh!

Can one elder in the house explain how coup was carried out.
Is it just a mere pronouncement or what

Announcement is one part of it - a major one for that one. That is why Radio Nigeria and NTA then was more of a garrison, full of soldiers. Radio station is where the coup plotters or any one interested in change of government announces his success.

A successful coup happens when you are able to seize the security apparatus of a country or a state - the armed forces, police and other security system. Seizure here means getting those in control of the security system to switch to your side or using force to arrest or execute them and appoint your men to the position. Finally, fighting your way to the States house or presidential palace.

But the announcement is a very important aspect of it

What a history! God bless technology. Those against technology should go and die.

Sometimes, I imagine how the world would have been without technology. I watched a full clip of the second world war and respected the whites more. 1945 Europe is far more developed structurally than some of African states.

Video and camera technologies have helped mankind very well to preserve history.

n3xt:
Lovely windows. I love large and clean windows too.

Hmmm. Clean and detailed. This colour is different. I haven't seen this colour before. The Nigeria weather situation makes large windows inevitable especially when building your own house.

drkay:
Just as predicted. I know you dont owe him or anyone here any explanation or review about the said guy. I dont know him personally, other than I've recently referred a subordinate at work to him recently.
Sir, in as much as this can be true, the hslbroker guy didn't manage the situation properly. He wasnt sick when the money was being transferred into his account. Then, why didn't he return their money or directed them to where their materials were, if he had procured them?
I directed somebody to contact him via his WhatsApp number that was copied on his thread and he responded well, the guy would have probably contacted him to seal a deal with him, after this Eid holiday if not for this thing that pop up.
He has been persistently seeing the allegations against him here and some of his close associates here would have probably contacted him to ask him questions. He really shouldn't hinge his refusal to do the appropriate thing on those flimsy excuses.
He lost his fone but he has been having access to Nairaland abi? 3m no be beans abeg.
I think he has lost his reputation here, if he had any ab initio and any attempt to salvage his already dent reputation should be discouraged. His next victim may be someone dearie to you Sir.

Please no body contacted me to launder any image, neither am I here to hold briefs for anybody. I gave my story and that is it. If you feel that you people have an unfinished business, get across to him. I got back to him and saw that my work had progressed against my initial thought.

Please follow up with him if you have any issue. My thinking is that this kind of things are common with artisans.

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twinskenny:
good good

by the way your window is beautiful

I was stunned when I saw the windows. The thing made me to pity him as I was already eager to land the final punch

Yes, we opened up additional large wall openings for windows. I so much love windows. One of the windows measured from one pillar to another of the room but na sliding window o. I like to have natural light penetrate inside rather than having the inside to be dark. Also better ventilation.

mufutau55:
This is not new with HSLBROKER. Just ask FastShipping.

Hajji M.

The great Hajji, I am surprise at the impression people have about him. I thought I was being scammed but my work has finally being delivered. He had done good jobs before and that was why I contracted him again for windows. Though he delayed but we later got the reason behind the delay.I am reading this thread and surprise to see some comments about him. These are my windows as at yesterday

Ibibioson:
Please do not do any business with hsl-broker. He's a fraud and scammer. Took #3m of my money to deliver various building materials for me. It's almost a month now and nothing has been delivered. One excuse after another. Told me his father passed away. I gave him time to mourn his dad. Even why preparing for the burial, I begged him to have the materials ready that my contractor would pick them up. Just tell us where they are. He refused. If he had a legit business, he could have called his distributors and have them get the materials ready for us to pick them up without him being there. He said nothing can be done in his absence. I never thought I would experience this on nairaland. Deliver my materials is an issue, refund my money is an issue too. Roofing woodwork was done, but no roofing sheets. Now the rain has washed off the anti-termite treatment.

I was able to see this HSL Broker. I earlier contracted him to do additional windows for me as I opened up more walls in my house for windows. I paid for everything but could not hear from him. My thought was that the guy had ran away with my money. We were able to track him and found out that he was in an isolation center with Corona virus and sick. I had earlier written bad things about him on his thread in nairaland. I felt pity for him. I had to pull them down again.

It is not in my character to spoil people's business. I had to delete all the things I said about him. I told him that he should have carried me along if he was taken to the isolation center by Governor Wike's COVID-19 task force, but he said he lost his phone at the center and couldn't replace it at that time because of money since he was not able to go out.

The good thing was that he referred us to the location where my work was going on and we went there and I saw the whole windows almost completed. My perception of him changed. I don't know if this is his character as I haven't heard any bad thing about him before this incident. Also let it be that the client is not the one failing to abide by the terms of the contract. I am an independent consultant and I deal with clients that are too difficult to work with, always raising issue. Even before this my issue with him, I held back before making my conclusion to avoid crucifying an innocent person. When I mentioned that I paid a popular nairalander here for a window without the job being delivered, people ask me for his moniker. I didn't provide it as I wanted to be sure of the intent of the guy as I wouldn't be able to sleep if I label false accusation on someone.

The good thing is that he had delivered on the job given to him

Below are the pictures of my windows we saw yesterday.

These national assembly guys dey see money - These are one quarter of what they received.

So sad, see the trauma on the faces of the villagers. Nigeria is a very poor country. You know a very poor country by the living standard of its people. The kind of houses they live, clothes the wear, general well being. Anytime they showed street Nigerians, you see faces of abject poverty and struggle. See how these innocent people lost their lives all in a bid to eke out a living

I do understand the OPs predicament. OP may be very incompetent and his boss and colleagues makes fun of him because of that. This usually happens in organization where the bosses doesn't have the right to fire. We had one guy like that - grossly incompetent. We hardly reckoned with him and this was affecting him badly. Whatever he did, my boss would shout at him.

He was always extremely careful not to make any mistake as our boss will come hard on him. The same thing others would make mistakes on and our boss will overlook. Probably saw it as a one off thing. But once it was the guy, heaven would fall and it was affecting him emotionally. Though grossly incompetent, he was brought to our firm from US through a paddy paddy arrangment

He later resigned and returned back to US

It will take Africans about 1000 years to get to the current level of western development.