₦airaland Forum

Minsk24:
There is nothing wrong with betting if u bet with spare money...
Do you know how many people depend on virtual for daily bread?

Agreed, but do you mean the people employed by betting, or the betters?

If it's the latter, I would disagree: the revenue for betting businesses come from people who play. For every winner, there are at least 100 losers. If different people win each day, it would mean they lost (on average) for 100 days, only to win that 1 day. Why do all that since your outcome is (on average) the same as keeping your money in a bank? It's worse, because you pay a portion of your earnings as profit to the betting company and tax to government.

I understand the thrill and the opportunity to hammer, but for all but a very few, it's a cleverly disguised money-siphoning scheme.

I've never liked betting because it's a convoluted way to dash somebody your money. Business, agents, and governments are collective massive revenue from betting... where's the money coming from? From all the losers that hope day after day that their turn will come.

If everybody eventually won, there'd be no revenue in betting... think about it.

booscy:
Nice one but very wrong analysis.

The law of economics makes it clear that people will always go for same product with lower cost implication.

If we must grow Naira, and keep youths at work and like you said pay to prevent kidnapping, we must boost sales by making our local products more affordable than their imported counterparts.

And my dear unemployment is not a justification to be a criminal.

The law of economics eh? See this https://www.tesla.com/support/incentives
The is the US government (Federal and State) basically subsidizing solar and electric vehicle industry up to 40%, depending on what, and state of residence. Left to the law of economics, the EV and solar industry would not survive because it's way too expensive for Americans to afford.

Also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_subsidy
Why do developed countries support local industries with subsidies for agricultural produce when their citizens can just buy it cheaper from China and Latin America? US farmers get over $20 billion in direct subsidies from their government annually; if you add the support for food stamps (which helps America's working class buy the food they could not really afford) of $68 billion (look it up) you can see USA supports its farm industry with at least $90 BILLION a year. And this is a very very rich country.

And why does US subsidize steel? https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB943834458435506838

This is what governments and citizens do all over the world: pay more to support your industry. Telegraph, telephone, postal services, electricity, Silicon Valley, trains, internet, space, satellites... all these were introduced with government intervention, and supported for decades. Like the US, China supports a crap ton of industries with cheap loans, export subsidies (pay no shipping fees to export your product), and cheap (below cost) electricity.

The law of economics does not support socialism (e.g. public schools, medical care for their elderly or unemployed, or pumping billions of taxpayer money into the stock market), yet this is what the US engages in. Then they turn around and tell us not to support our industries because of "the law of economics".

We can lower the cost by having steady electricity, better roads, low interest loans, removing import tariffs on raw materials, encouraging our leather tanners with incentives, cheap animal feed, and lower transportation costs. Also by subsidizing finished goods with a phase out period.
All these come from the tax payer in one way or another - either directly from income tax, reduction in subsidies in other areas, or guarantees for banks to issue low interest loans. If the government is not at the stage to do this, individual tax payers can help by paying more for these goods.

Unemployment is no justification for being a criminal, that is true. But there is a direct causal link between unemployment and crime. Employ people, crime goes down.

booscy:
Nice one.

If the prices are lower than those imported from Turkey and China then business will boom!

As you know it's more expensive because the costs of production are higher: energy and transport are more expensive here, and if parts have to be imported, those add cost.

We Nigerians need to step up to the plate and also have to make small sacrifices to boost our economy. Pay a little extra, and we keep Nigerian youths employed. It's cheaper than getting kidnapped. The more we support, the cheaper it will become over time.

I need to visit this Ikot-Ekpene... I've heard so much about it... OP it looks nice, but how is night life? Comparing it with other small cities like Asaba?

You know, for a country with budget deficits and so many things lacking, we don't need any stinking celebration. The money for this rubbish fête can be used to improve services. Last time I celebrated was when in 1985, when I was a small boy and didn't know better.

I still remember "Nigeria is twenty five, the odds we did survive"... singing and we didn't have running water or constant light. 2020 we don't have running water or constant light. It would be painful but not too surprising if in 40 years (I pray I'm still around) we'll be celebrating 100 years, yet no running water or constant light.

Buhari and his crew ran the country into the ground back then... and they are back to do the same once again.
They should take their logo, their celebrations, their loot, and goan die

Police held the two girls because one mentioned she saw the boy who came around, and another's phone was used.

Police beat up, arrested, and of course collected (free bail) from innocent people who were only trying to help. What this story tells me is: our police are totally useless. They never help, complicate things, and cost more money. In all my experience, it's always better to just keep them out of your mix.

Henceforth my only response to police is "I don't know", and never borrow your phone to anybody.

It's a pity the parents were not even apologetic... who does that?

Which travel ban? We dey travel go US and UK? Abeg keep your travel ban.

It's kind of rich for US and UK, after centuries of fomenting divisions, violence, suppression in African countries; assassinating our leaders; and snuffing out life from a republic that only sought the right-to-live for its citizens... it's ironic they are now the ones threatening sanctions against Nigerians who are still dealing with the scars of European aggression.

Fake news kwa?

Anyways, we wey dey estate wey transformer don blow... fake news or not... light no dey

kopell:
Sometimes I don’t know how our people think. So the have to import those plates and make it a killer in price, when the could buy ordinary CNC laser cutters to cut those patterns in record time, probably cut 100 per hour. What a shame.

I think you have to first realize that even if people are doing things different from how you are, they have their own rationale.
As a person who prefers fabricating locally over importing, I have to give them the benefit of the doubt, e.g.:

- CNC laser cutters are far more expensive than these plates, so for one offs, you're better off with the precut plates
- There is skill and labor involved, which haven't really been developed yet. With time, yes, but no client wants to be the guinea pig.
- CNC requires computer... not too many metal yards (outside Lagos) have the clean environment a computer requires (for now)
- Parts are not off the shelf (yet). If the laser goes kaput (or like happened to me once, the freaking power supply dies in the middle of a cutting session), you're out of commission for weeks.
- We're not even mentioning the power supply needs.

Why assume all this risk when the client can just put up the funds to import?

Like you, I'm not happy with this situation, but things change really quickly... I won't be surprised if there's some fellow in Onitsha today gearing up CNC for production

Crownstar01:
Forget about that. Nigeria is a shithole with terrorist government. If the OP goes into medical in the US, he cannot struggle. He would earn a jumbo pay and this is what the girl has seen so far. She already knew OP would add value into her life.

OK oh... for every 1 that goes abroad, there are 2 making it here. Even the money to go abroad... that was made here in Nigeria. But let me not keep people from living out their dreams... before they label me a hater.

Crownstar01:
So, Nigeria is now a paradise, huh? Stop deceiving yourself.

Nobody said Nigeria is a paradise.

What I'm saying is that the fact that she's Americana will not help you when you have to deal with being emasculated because you depend on her for remaining in America. The only thing that matters is that they love and respect each other, and where she is based should not be a factor. Heaven and Hell can both be found in America, and in Nigeria.

etrange:
The kind of questions I see onhere these days simply shows that real human relationships have long been discarded. So instead of the OP to interact with the so called abroad based wife to see if her personality matches what he wants in a woman, he came on Nairaland to ask strangers the advantages/disadvantages of marrying her? And now people who might have never left their home states are telling him tales of how he will be emasculated. Lmao.

I tire oh... lmao too. He should be more focused on dating the girl and see if he like her. Of course her Americaness will cloud his thoughts and he will be convinced her shit don't stink.

Two years later we will be reading "I married this Americana, we have one child, and now my life is a living hell" because he fell for the glitter.

No advantages. No disadvantages. Marry who you like, there will be good days and sad days. There will be ups and downs. There will be validations and regrets.

Not one of the arguments or positions in this topic will ultimately be of any use.

How much is bleach and broom? How much is Hero and asun? Maybe the students can forgo on evening of flexing girl to clean their own bathrooms.

OP, please also give us a list of bribes, I mean fines, that will help us get out of trouble.
I wish police will give us receipts, so that if we've paid them something this week, we can show their colleagues who stop us later.

bigfish3k:
Are we supposed to be importing fuel after 5yrs of APC governance

We are not oh my brother... in fact I'm eagerly awaiting Dangote's refinery.

But it's like the issue of importing fuel is too much for any president to conquer... from mid 70's till now.

Man, I wish I could be a contractor of these ID schemes in Nigeria... you can collect money, not deliver, then the administration will just introduce another scheme in a few years.

What country is Uncle living in?

Nigerians use imported petrol, bought with dollars, which has jumped from #350 to #470 in one year. The dollars were obtained with crude oil, which has fallen in price.

Not only that, the old price was the subsidized price (i.e. it was not true market cost). When subsidy is removed, cost of fuel should rise to its real value.

I think Uncle knows all this - after all he is an astute businessman - but I suspect he just wants to rile people. I'm not a Buhari apologist, but this tweet reeks of opportunism, not genuine concern.

Nothing is difficult. People just make things difficult for themselves.

People keep wanting to run away.

You're not seeing all these buildings popping up? All these cars being sold? Hotels being patronized? Food, farming, appliances, beauty, clothes, solar, real estate, furniture, entertainment, transport, logistics, banking, technology, and so much more.

These are not funded by yahoo. These are being done by hardworking Nigerians all around you.

Do we have issues? Yes, but I tell you, for every Nigerian who runs to another country, there's one who stayed and is reaping the benefits.
The money you want to raise to "travel abroad", and that will sustain you for 3-6 months while you find work... it can be put to better use.

But let me not stop you... the others who have gone and are hiding in the shadows, or begging for government assistance to bring them back home... they've gone and seen that abroad no be beans.

It's not by degree oh...
It's by entrepreneurship, skill, motivation, connections, and luck.

Adieza:
I got a lot of encouragement as well as criticism on the post on making the place look more hygienic.
It wasn't easy putting places together up to that stage where I had to erect a room, buy containers and pay bills. I was keeping tab on all the comments.

Four days after the post, the Ekiti state Governor Dr. John Kayode Fayemi invited me over to his office in Ado

OP, thank you so much for your hard work, and for contributing to a better country, in spite of our challenges. I'm proud of you, happy for you, and wish you nothing but the best and more success. May we someday hear that you've become a HUGE maker of food products distributing nationwide.

I'm also grateful that the governor has this initiative to encourage the youths

None of these things work.

When the British came, they ran over every freaking kingdom, empire, and community - with superior weapons. Period.

None of the jujus and beliefs held by Oyo, Edo, Borno, Sokoto, etc, could stand up to bullets. Period.

There might be chance survivors, but if you want to consider the effectiveness of something, you count the aggregate.

But seriously, detractors on this topic. We say buy Naija to grow Naija. This governor just did. Why the hate, confusion? Why are we even showing bad roads, complaining about "old traditional rulers", or comparing with another region?

This is good in itself. Celebrate good thing for once in your life, haba.

I would support this whether he bought locally-made cars, chalk, shoes, or hospital equipment. My only criteria is that the products be made locally to encourage manufacturers and employ more people, which is what eventually leads to prosperity.

CodeTemplar:
In a state with bad roads. A state with taxpayers stranded across hospitals, a state with indigenous beggars, with criminals, with closed schools.

Nigeria lacks direction from foundation.

But in this case, the state is supporting local industry (and the people being employed) with this purchase. We can't always just give money to hospitals, beggars or to combat crime; we need encourage industry so that more people will be employed, leading eventually to fewer beggars and fewer criminals

crackhouse:
It can only happen in Nigeria. A leader using state's money to buy jeeps for traditional rulers while the people are suffering and dying as a result of negligence in the health sector and general well fare of the people...... And some people here are praising him. Let him try that in places like America and u will somebody will just visit him with gun and blow his brains out. Nonsense.
When are going to get it right in this country?

Usually I would agree with, and that would be the case if these were purchased from abroad. However, supporting a local manufacturer is always a good thing: they employ people and the tech know how is growing. This is what's going to eventually contribute to the well being of the people: manufacturing.

If he decided to use the money to buy made-in-Aba shoes and uniforms for all children in the state, I would also support that. But if he was going to use that money to buy foreign-made hospital equipment... I'd have less support for that, to be honest. The key is to support indigenous industry - whatever the field.

Codes151:
Old men that eat from community packages and slots.
Some can’t work.

We decided to spend cash servicing them.

African mentality

You realize that this money is usually recycled in the community. These "old men" don't sit on the money: they in turn employ people who do things for them; they buy goods and services that benefit others around them. Somebody in Anambra made the car; somebody will be paid to drive that car; another will be its mechanic, and the parts will be purchased from local businesses.

Traditional rulers and other royalty around the world also eat from "community packages and slots". Granted some get income from being landlords of choice property, but the vast majority are a burden to the taxpayer.

zimdante:
What about the poor masses, anything for them?

Innoson employs people to make these cars. We need government - and other Nigerians - to buy these products so the company will grow; so that other entrepreneurs will be encouraged into manufacturing. Do that and soon there won't be "poor masses" needing government handout.

The situation with love is the same as it ever was: you're lucky to be with somebody you continue to be infatuated with forever. Love is not the physical sensations - that's infatuation and lust.

Love grows with time; it includes mutual responsibility, humility, thoughtfulness, kindness, faithfulness, respect (and self-respect), sacrifice - by both partners.

But to answer the question: divorces are more common now because both partners can be economically independent, and there are now laws that govern how and when children are paid for when couples separate.

A woman who was economically dependent on her partner (back in the day) would suffer through a lot to stay in a bad marriage, at least until the children are grown. Back then what were her options? She didn't have much options for good employment; very few men would want to marry a divorcee; and she wasn't all that welcome back to her dad's house. The man would take advantage of that dependency, so she had to take it. However, now she can just walk away and survive on her own, make enough money to hire househelp, so she doesn't have to put up with crap.

My impression is that if people (especially women) had the same opportunites 100 years ago as they do now, divorces would have been more common back then too.

Good one... see cars just full everywhere. <in mr macaroni's voice> Innoson; you're doing well

But of course some haters on here are saying: "misplaced priority", "waste of money", "mere assembler".

Please go and choke on your hatred: industry is happening in Anambra; it's being supported by Anambra; and Anambra youths are being gainfully employed and learning technical skills. These are all the things we've been asking for.

You think it's beans to manufacture a car? If so please start your own company, not sit around idly pressing phone.

You notice this white man shot at police 40 times before being arrested.
An unarmed black man was getting into his car and was shot in the back 7 times by police two weeks ago.

After killing his wife, he decided to express his racist tendencies and shoot at black neighbors who had nothing to do with the fight. Just because.

Then Trump will say: "there were bad people on both sides of this event", insult the wife, blame the black girl for being shot, and abuse everybody who protests about this injustice.