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No doubt. There are quite a few Nigerians who are making their money there. However, they have the right "skill set" that is needed there. Those guys did their research before moving to that country. Most Nigerians don't do their research. They just hop on the plane and assume that everything will sort itself out. Nigerians who are into gold and jewelry are cashing out big time. What I have noticed is that if you have a western passport or work experience from a western country, they will respect you more than if you came directly from Nigeria.

Kog45:
Yes you are right but I can tell you that I have Nigerians who are earning big in UAE....

Let me add my two cents to this matter. I've been to UAE a few times. The country is more like the Las Vegas of the Middle East. It was designed to attract tourists. It wasn't designed to attract immigrants. The people who really enjoy UAE are expatriates from the so-called '1st world' countries (whites). It's not for people from developing countries. Hence why you see Indians, Pakistanis, Egyptians, Phillipinos and other 'immigrants' living in slums. The expatriates already have secured jobs before they arrive in the country. They spend their foreign earnings in the country. This piece of information is very important. Many people won't tell you this. They don't respect people from developing countries. Unless you have a secured well paying job in UAE, don't bother going there to work. It's even better to set up a business in another african country.

You have a point. Not all career women are what they seem.

truthsayer009:
This women you mentioned won't do all of this for money, because their parents are already wealthy so I don't understand how that solves any problem. Why would anyone want to import Ibru girls or daughter of Rich moguls?

I don't really know what you mean by "a career woman" but if you mean a woman who has a 9-5 job, then I can assure you that plenty of them also partake in these types of arrangements.

I am not talking about those clowns. The "high class" women I am talking about are career women/daughters of rich moguls. The Indimi girls, Ibru girls, Igbinedion girls or career women like Mo Abudu or even Agbani Darego. Mercy and co are only high class because of their celebrity status. No hard working man who suffered for his money would touch those women with a ten inch pole knowing their lifestyle.

truthsayer009:
- Who exactly is the high class women we are referring to? Do we mean the likes of Mercy Eke, Lilian Esoro & co?
- I mean some of this high class women work as escorts too, so what's the difference between high class and low class?
- Is it not the amount of money you have that determines the bargain?

Some sensible high class women get married while others continue the life of hustle, so there is no difference.

There are also lots of women who want to get married and start a family (either high class or low class), but that's not what he his interested in.

That's the problem. Having lived abroad for a while, I had this belief that once you have been through the western system your thinking faculty would be different. Now I realize that a lot of Nigerians abroad are no different from their counterparts at home. A lot of them only see Nigeria as a means to cash out. Many of our leaders have either studied abroad or travelled abroad on numerous occasions but they refuse to replacate what they see back home due to greed/selfishness. We have a societal problem that needs answers.

Promismike:
Nigeria really has a very strong foundamental problem.

Emagin someone who base abroad and people who frequent the developed world being give oppotuinities to govern states and a country . Yet these bunch of men can't replicate one good thing they see in the developed countries.

This country ee

Of course. She's nothing but an Escort. Regardless of his nationality, you and I know that a lot of our countrymen would do the same as they share the same mentality as the man in question. My own is, if he is that rich, why can't he step up to high class women? He doesn't have any game with all his money.

truthsayer009:
This is how Escort services work, you pay a lady & fly her out. Then you can do anything you want.

It's an all expense paid vacation, sex is part of it mbok. Make we no speak plenty english.

The dude is also a Kenyan, according to him he his worth $20Million. Whether true or not, I don't know.

This lad has proven what I have said many times that Nigerian men are SIMPS who believe that money is the only way to get a woman. You chat to a stranger you don't know, pay for her flight ticket and accommodation and expect her to sleep with you like that? You didn't try to get to know her. You didn't wine and dine her in Nigeria. I mean, who does that? What about your siblings, friends, parents? Have you ever offered to take any of them abroad? For the clowns defending him by saying that it's his money, if he worked HARD for that money, he wouldn't have done what he did.

The SIMP is the biggest loser not the girl. The MAGA took a girl who most likely never even had a National Passport out of the country and it's now stamped on her passport. She can use that for future purposes while the baga will not be able to recoup the money he spent on her (sexually/financially). Just look at her! She's not even average looking with a bulging belly! A man with commonsense would have used that trip to find local girls over there to satisfy their sexual needs. I like what happened to him. Serves him and other low esteemed men who believe that money is all they need to woo a woman.

Bloody ridiculous question. Which is more important: a roof over your head or a potential liability? This is a no brainer question.

Lol, most Nairalanders don't know what they want when it comes to relationships/marriage. Today it's "team foreign girls", tomorrow it's "team Nigeria girls". One day it's "team rich girls", the next day it's "team poor/urgent 2k girls". I actually don't blame Nigerian women for their irrational sense of entitlement. It's Nigerian men that caused this sh*t. They don't know what they want. If you tell a fellow guy to have standards, he will tell you that love is more important than standards. Contrast that with Nigerian women who support their fellow women when they say that they cannot lower their standards for any man even though they themselves cannot boast of N10k in their bank account.

You will have the so-called "alpha males" here who will tell you to make money and dictate the relationship/marriage with said money. When women cheat on them despite all their money, they will come here and wail that all women are leeches. Bros, when you seduced her with your money, what did you think was going to happen?? Abeg, we men need to be honest with ourselves.

This is the blunt truth. The first thing a woman in this country observes about a man is whether he has a ride or not. Having a ride to them is proof of affluence. If you like, have a house in Ikoyi, that's not the first thing that they will notice about you if they don't know you. In Europe, it's different.

AlhajiBitcoin:
If you own a house worth N20m and trek, a woman won't follow you, but just have a clean car of N1.5m, you are the one to be running away from them.

I'm in my 30s and we aren't the hardest to date. At 30+, you are more mature. You have been through all that chasing the girl crap that you spent your 20s doing. At this point of your life, it's about focusing on your career and finding some stability in your life. A man in his 30s has seen all the tricks from women and is no longer amused. Time is money. If a lady isn't interested, she should bounce. Nothing worse than wasting a man's time playing games. That's for boys who haven't experienced life yet. Days of simping for women are over.

Thank you for understanding where I am coming from! Someone finally gets it! I am not mocking women or anyone from a poor background. I am not saying that they should remain where they are. All I am saying (pretty sure it's the same for most rational people) is that you can't ask for what you don't have. Relationships are give and take not take and take. You cannot be poor and expect a rich man or a rich man's son to sweep you off your feet when you haven't done anything to develop yourself.

Life is not like the movies. Even Meghan Markle was an established actress when she met Prince Harry. She wasn't living in a slum dreaming about marrying Royalty. Even despite all this, the British press made a mockery of her family background. Can these leeches deal with that? The real elite, as you noted, don't respect people from humble beginnings regardless of gender. These slay queens don't understand this. Us men are very realistic about our prospects and don't go for what we can't handle.

Magnoliaa:
Lol...

You made some valid, cogent points.

Firstly, there are two kinds of rich people, I believe. The ones that have money and the ones that are truly elite. I think you're referring to the latter.

Thing with people is... I don't even know.

A lack of self-awareness (and reflection) is a thing. Self-hate is another. And, yeah, entitlement, I guess, lastly.

For some of those girls, they do not think. They just say whatever comes to their head, out their mouths. Yes. It's not a bad thing to aspire for something better and someone better...but how can you really be insulting or mocking someone just like you are? Or when you aren't better off. I don't get it. I think it is psychological (one of the complexes) and a projection. You hate your state so much that you lash out at other people exactly in your state. It's tasteless to me, tbh.

And like Agbani that you cited, if no body is ready to develop themselves and move up socially, intellectually, and in every way, it is just a fantasy to aspire to date someone of a higher class.

Thank you for the message even though you know nothing about my background. The question is, what "standards" do you have to begin with? You are poor, no money, no assets, no car, no family pedigree and you are talking about "standards"? Isn't that ironic? What are women from poor backgrounds bringing to the table? Intellect? Finance? Contacts? Homemaking? What is it? What do you have to offer a rich baller that other women can't? I want to know.

siofra:
Sorry, we aren't lowering our standards for any broke son of Adam.

Stay alert Queens.

I will never understand why Nigerian women from poor backgrounds have this entitlement to marry up. They are all over social media broke shaming poor men and swearing that they have nothing to do with them. You will never see girls from rich backgrounds do this. Hell, even girls from middle class families don't do this. I understand the importance of wanting a better life for yourself and your offsprings. I really do. What I don't get, however, is their criticism of broke guys/struggling guys bring nothing to the table but they themselves have nothing to offer. If you ask them what they themselves bring to the table in a relationship, their response is "oh he will love me for who I am", "the rich bachelor hasn't seen the poor girl that will sweep him off his feet", "I will be submissive and humble". My dear, how is that "love" you are talking about going to improve his life? You don't believe in love from a poor guy but you want to offer that same "love" to someone who can get any woman he wants? Does that make logical sense? Your father doesn't have a car but you demean men who don't have a car You live in a face me I face you flat in Orile but you want ballers who live in Lekki and Ikoyi?

What most of these women don't understand is that rich guys, especially ajebutters, are very elitist. If you mess up, they will remind you of where you were coming from before they met you. They can kick you out at any time and there's nothing you can do about it. Look and FFK and his estranged wife. Caroline Danjuma's husband cheated on her with several women and she couldn't do jack. I am not saying that you shouldn't go for rich men but at least bring something to the table and not see marriage/relationships as a poverty alleviation scheme. Agbani Darego came from a humble background but she ended up marrying Danjuma's son. Let's not forget that Agbani has her own money and has furthered herself both academically and socially.

Not Aisha Buhari but Zahra their daughter who is married to Indimi. None of her children were born in Nigeria. The first was born in Spain while the second one was born in UAE. Yet Bubu will be preaching patriotism and one Nigeria. None of the elites believe in Nigeria.

truthsayer009:
For real? I never knew Buhari's children were not born here. It means Aisha must be really smart in the 80s to do that.

If that is true though.

My brother, the idiots in this forum will not listen. They will continue to shout "IPOB", "Afonja" or "Aboki". None of the elites from all corners of this country give a damn about the masses. Did you know that the First Lady was residing in UAE for 5 months? None of Zahra Buhari's kids were born in Nigeria. Bukola Saraki and Ben Murray-Bruce still maintain dual nationality despite being Political holders. Tinubu has properties in the UK & US and most likely has a U.S. passport. Atiku has a house in Maryland, USA. Peter Obi has assets outside the country. All these guys have backup plans in case Nigeria ever collapses. The masses are just cannon folder.

chaloskyx:
NIGERIANS THE HAND WRITING IS ON THE WALL NIGERIA IS A FAILED STATES NOW YOU SEE WHY THESE ELITES AND POLITICIANS BUILD MANSIONS ABROAD SEND THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL ABROAD AND LOOT PUBLIC FUNDS TO OVERSEAS BANK ACCOUNTS ITS JUST FOR MOMENTS LIKE THIS....NDUME JUST GAVE YOU EXPO TO REASON WHY YOUR LEADERS DO THESE THINGS IV LISTED ITS BECAUSE THEY ALL KNOW YOUR COUNTRY CANT SURVIVE, ITS NOT SUSTAINABLE MY ADVISE IF YOU CAN JAPA DO SO CAUSE THE AVERAGE NIG POLITICIAN HAS HIS PAPERS AND PJ TO LEAVE ONCE ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE

Look at this one lol. Your likes are on this forum on a daily basis bragging that all you need to get a woman is money. "Money is the koko", "who love epp?", "women can date a monkey as long as money is involved". What did you think was going to happen?? She saw you as a maga and you saw her as an easy lay . What has she contributed to your life? Nothing. Apart from money and provisions, what else have you contributed to the relationship? OP, what you have is not a girlfriend but a parasite who has other magas on the side. Know this and know peace.

I have been saying this for a while. This forum is so misorgynist and tribalist it's not even funny. People will be venting their anger and frustration on people they don't personally know. A lot of moderates and intellectuals have quite this forum and other mediums because the toxicity is too much.

NoFucksToGive:
On point. Nigerians have become so bitter and vile. Just go through the comments on this website and see how the curse each other and speak evil towards their fellow citizens because of tribalism , then you will understand just how dark a place Nigeria really is

OP, it comes down to how they view you. If they see perceive you as being flashy or the struggling type, in their mind, they see a potential maga. One thing I have noticed about most of these girls is that if you are rich, from a wealthy background or you lived abroad, they don't reveal their true selves to you at the beginning as they feel that a guy of your type is hard to come by. Instead, they will pretend and act "sophisticated" with the hope that you will fall for their charm. This is a true story. These girls aren't that stupid. They are hustlers sizing their market.

If I am lying, look at the last Big Brother. See the way the girls in that house treated Kiddawaya in comparison to say Laycon.

OP, your friend needs to understand something, Nigerian women do not like competition. It's not about light skin vs dark skin. They see fair guys as their competition. They want to want be the attractive person in the relationship. Nigerian women also don't like men that know how to cook. Most Nigerian women feel intimidated by men who know how to cook as they cannot impress such a person. It's the same way a lot of Nigerian men are intimidated by women who are richer than them or are more educated than them. You cannot intimidate a woman who is wealthier and more educated than you.

Forget about the lack of finance comments here. Majority of Nigerians who are married are not rich. In fact, poor people get married faster than rich people. This is a fact. Nigerians are a very competitive and dominating people. We don't like to be second best at anything.

You need to understand that Nigerians are as ignorant as the Americans they mock. They know nothing about many countries across the globe. The Chilean passport is the strongest passport in Latin America. For your country to have visa-free access to the U.S., it has to be very developed. America has some of the strictest visa rules in the world after Australia. Countries like Argentina, Uruguay, Malaysia, Brazil and the gulf states aren't "third world". They are just a few years away from being first world if they don't mess themselves up. It will take Nigeria at least 2 generations to even get to their level let alone matching them.

walkbrazil4k:
Thank you, I remember a guy from Chile he posted about chile and boy oh boy, they bullied the guy and that was how the thread died many don't know that chileans don't need a visa to visit the USA because their country is good, highly developed

OP, I respect your zeal to defend Brazil. A lot of people, especially Nigerians, are very ignorant of countries that are not UK, USA, Canada and other western countries. Can you imagine that some Nigerians actually believe that South Korea is a third world country?Brazil is more advanced than any country in Africa including SA. I have been reading about Brazil since I was a teen and the country is not a third world country. It's not a first world country either as there's a huge disparity between the rich and the poor and between the North and South. That's the reality on ground.

There's a huge racial inequality in that country even though they like to believe otherwise as Southern Brazil, which is dominated by whites, is the most developed part of Brazil while Northern Brazil, which is dominated by Blacks and Natives, is the most underdeveloped part of Brazil.

You made a smart decision to relocate to Brazil as there aren't many Nigerians moving towards that direction and with its large black population, you can easily blend in with the crowd. Brazil still has a lot of developing country problems such as poor literary rate, a high % of people living in extreme poverty and a low purchasing power compared to say Argentina, Chile or Uruguay.

I thought that I was the only one who noticed this lie. Who spends that kind of money in a month if you don't have any business venture in the country? Are you going to tell me that they stay in a hotel for the duration of their stay in their own country?? What about family/friends? People aren't making money like that abroad. They know that this is a faceless forum so they can say anything they want and people will believe them.

pansophist:
Guys, alot of this guys are lying. Over 2.5M in a month? That's like spending about 100k everyday. Really? Why una de lie like this? I don't know where this guys find the money sef, lots of Nigerians abroad are broke. Real time. No joke. Make una de lie small small abeg.

I understand that you intend to make folks back home miserable, your sense of worth is predicated on how much other puts you on a pedestals, and them having the consciousness that you're doing fine, but it is wrong. It means you're a shitty person.

Sorry bro but our points are divergent. Even Prince Harry would not get into Oxford with his poor A'level grades let alone someone like Otedola. The point I'm making is that you have to be brainy or have an impressive resume to get into schools like Oxford/Cambridge. I am not a fan of Cuppy but I have to give credit where it's due. With her family wealth, she doesn't need to push herself to acquire more degrees but she is.

Commentor:
You do know you've made his point, don't you?

Money alone would likely not get you into Oxford but it sure helps.

It'll be nice to know if Cuppy made a first in her first degree, or a distinction at her previous masters.

We cannot discount other elements besides pure academics made her Oxford University admission a possibility.

I'm sorry but do you think that it's easy to get into Oxford?? Oxford is not a Nigerian university where you can settle the school officials for admission. I know people with perfect A'level results that couldn't make the cut to Oxford. You are a very bitter person who needs to work on his/her issues before critising others. It's not her fault that you were born poor. This forum reeks of bitterness and envy.

Philipmems:
Who cares? The attention your parents don't give you is what this clown comes to collect/ attract on social media. You got into Oxford because your father is rich, not because you are intelligent. Clown.

I somewhat agreed with you as a guy. I have observed that us men, sometimes, are our worst enemies. A broke guy will have no qualms with spending the little money he has on a girl but to help his fellow man is difficult. Don't get me wrong, men do help their fellow men a lot and quite a few take advantage of it and are ungrateful.

It's not even only with broke guys. I have also noticed this is very common with returnees from abroad. [b]I will never understand how a girl who has never lived in Nigeria secures accommodation, job and contacts within 2 weeks of relocating to Nigeria while their male counterparts are on their own.[/b]Look at the female celebrities. Both men and women patronize their business on social media while only a few patronize the businesses of their male counterparts.

As a man in this country, if you don't have a strong supportive system (well to do family, friends) you are on your own. No one gives a damn about you.

Magnoliaa:
Thank you for the last sentence, especially. What this lady said and your advice is actually an indictment to you men yourselves. You people can form bro codes, and band together to insult women, and call women their own worst enemies, and sleep on a dirty bed, sharing boxers together and bla bla bla (that women typically do not do) and because of that declare that you love each other, because you're all supposedly banging a single girl, but your so-called affinity is only skin deep. You DON'T feel a single thing for each other. And this is not even because you don't have the money. A broke boy can still, any how, whichever way find money to give to his girlfriend, but to give his broke guy friend?

Instead of speaking to yourselves to change your attitudes, you'll rather hate on the girls ''whyning'' your friends' brains. At least a broke partying babe that is being bankrolled will still take the gifts and monies she get from men to share with her friends. The genuine sharing spirit is there.

That men are broke in huge numbers and women are cashing out (typically) only points more to the fact that men do not help one another rather than the manipulation of women y'all cry wolf about.

At least 50%. It's like applying for a job. A first class graduate with good social skills with get in front of the queue before everybody else. It doesn't mean that he's secured the job. Same thing with Nigerian women, all these things will get you in front of the queue but it doesn't guarantee that they like you or will be loyal to you. The dating market in this country is crazy.

truthsayer009:
It's funny that all you mentioned goes 50% in the process of toasting a babe in Nigeria, once you have all this things in place. You'll probably get a Yes. Even though they don't really like you, It really doesn't matter.

As the headline states, a travel visa issued at an embassy does not guarantee you the right of entry into a country. So many people do not understand this. There is a general misconception that once a prospective traveller is finally issued a visa at a country’s consulate, it would guarantee said traveller an automatic right of entry into a country’s borders but that is not true. I shall discuss what brought about this topic.

On 14 August 2021, a Nigerian, Adeyemi Opebiyi, had filed a lawsuit against the United Kingdom for allegedly turning him back from entering the country after he had been granted a visa and had flown from Nigeria to the Manchester Airport.

Mr. Opebiyi, who described himself as the Head of Operations, Sabi Micro Finance Bank Ltd, arrived at Manchester Airport on March 14, 2021 and was stopped by a UK Immigration official, who insisted that he must be interviewed before he could be allowed into the UK.

He claimed that he was made to wait for eight hours at the immigration desk before he was eventually interviewed by an Immigration officer, who had asked him to draw the logo of Sabi Micro Finance Bank Ltd, among other things, as a way of verifying his claim that he works with the financial institution.
Opebiyi alleged that after drawing the logo as best as he could, the Immigration officer told him that the drawing was not good enough and he would be denied entry into the UK on that basis.
He claimed that he was subsequently detained for 10 days before he was finally deported to Nigeria on March 24.
He said, in response to his request for the review of the decision, that he received a letter from the UK Home Office, which stated that what he drew bared little resemblance to the logos found in all the supporting documents he had sent to the British High Commission during his visa application.

The Home Office further inferred that Mr. Opebiyi was unable to state the names of the current Chairperson and Managing Director of Sabi Micro Finance Bank Ltd. Mr. Opebiyi was also alleged to have been unable to state the core values of the Bank, which he is a part of.

From the above case study, it is safe to say that the alleged victim was deported from the United Kingdom as a result of his failure to verify his status with his company and also his inability to comply with the immigration officer’s instructions.

Even though the British High Commission granted Mr. Opebiyi a visa, the immigration officer at the point of entry has the discretion to deny him access if he/she feels that his application is not genuine.

It is also important to understand what a point of entry to country means as it will enable potential travellers/immigrants mentally prepare themselves for their trip when the time comes.

What is a point of entry? A point of entry is specific place where a person can lawfully enter the country. According to Law Insider, a point of entry means a passage for international entry or exit of travelers, baggage, cargo, containers, conveyances, goods and postal parcels as well as agencies and areas providing services to them on entry or exit.

It is one of the many “stages” a potential traveller has to partake in order to travel to another jurisdiction. The first stage is to obtain a visa, second stage is to exit the country you are based in and the final stage is to arrive at the intended country’s point of entry.

Now that we are clear about what a point of entry means, it is safe to say that the immigration officer who interviewed Mr. Opebiyi was at the point of entry in the UK and had the power to accept or reject his visa at will.

A similar scenario occurred in March 2017. In this case, a Nigerian citizen was denied entry into the United States of America (U.S.A.) despite having a valid two-year multiple visa. The U.S. Embassy in Nigeria asserted that a visa does not guarantee entry into the U.S. and it is a practice that is common amongst different countries across the world.

This is the sad reality of immigration. A country can issue a potential traveller a multiple entry visa but that traveller can still be deported if the immigration officer interviewing said traveller feels that the individual involved has not satisfied their reasons for allowing he/she into their country. Nevertheless, one should always endeavor to ensure that they have the right documents, can confidently answer all questions asked and is willing to provide further information/documents when needed.

The point is that the aforementioned two are risky considering the OP's friend's budget. The money is not enough for real estate business.Even if you buy a plot of land for N200, 000, you will still have to spend twice as much to develop it. As for UBER, the cost of maintaining a car in the Nigeria of today is not cheap. A family friend had to quit after a while as it was not durable in the long run. The person in question can buy a sewing machine and learn tailoring. He can apply for foreign jobs online and earn in dollars. The internet is there for a reason.This is more in line with his desire to become a fashion designer. He can use to balance to invest in stocks or tangible things.

Bakerdav:
which biz is not risky pls,if u can't take risk yu can't make it in life ,apart ow is real estate and uber risky can u pls explain?

OP, what's your definition of classy girls? Is it the pretty social media girls dressed head to toe in designer wears but no proven source of wealth? Is it the rich girls from a rich background that live in the suburbs or is it the working/middle class girls that are big shots in their field of practice? That question needs to be clarified. Once you have clarified that, use the following points to be the ultimate bachelor as far as Nigeria is concerned:

1. You must have a car. (they need to know that your are mobile)
2. You must have a constant stream of income (money)
3. You should have a place of your own (it indicates independence, place of comfort and security)
4. You should be well educated (no matter how much money you have, women can't deal with illiterates)
5. Your diction must be on point. (can't have you embarrassing them in public when you open your mouth).
6. Finally, your dress sense must be on point. (Nigerian women judge men based on their appearance).

Have all these and classy girls will flock to you like bees.

Your friend is already a fashion designer. Why doesn't he invest that money into something fashion related? He can get a sewing machine and rent a small shop. Use the remaining balance to further himself in the profession which is what it is. Uber and real estate are risky businesses. Nigerians need to be more creative.