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As someone who has spent 13 years of his life in the UK before relocating to Nigeria, I will say that moving back home is tough if you are not financially independent and don't have a back-up plan in case things don't work. All what the previous posters said about the cost of living in the west, lack of culture and risk of running a rat race is true. However, Nigeria is not a stable option either. The cost of living is rising and business is not booming like before. The growing insecurity in the country is not helping matters. I don't blame many people who want to leave.

In my personal opinion, the best way to enjoy the best of both worlds is if you have papers. I get that not everybody is interested in such but it is a massive advantage that a lot of people are ignoring. If life is unbearable in Nigeria, you can always relocate. Foreign citizenship gives you access to foreign health care that you may not have in Nigeria. The point is not to limit yourself to one place. Many people who did so are regretting it.

Oh, so that means that Sowore and other activists are frauds because their children don't study in Nigeria? It's not your fault, this forum gives unknown monikers the audacity to chat to people who they wouldn't have the opportunity to talk to in real life. I leave the stage for you.

Godispeace:
senseless question and epistle . how does that relate with doing what u preach oponu shocked shocked shocked shocked , point of correction she is a PEP (POLITICAL EXPOSED PERSON) in the financial system according to both local and international law.

Go to school , its yahoo yahoo they will be doing . Nonsense !!!!

Nigerians must always complain! Is Aisha a public official?? Do you know if her husband is rich? She's a private citizen and can decide to send her children to any country she wishes as long as it is not looted funds. If anything, this shows that she's comfortable and doesn't have to fight for your rights. Even Wole Soyinka, Femi Falana and other activists educated their wards abroad. Who doesn't want the best for their kids? You should direct your anger towards politicians such as Buhari and Ben Murray Bruce who kept misleading people with the mantra: "grow the naira and patronize your country" when they did otherwise.

The irony. He supports the destruction of beer/alcoholic drinks in his states as they are "anti-islam" but sends his son to a "non-islamic" country to reap the benefits of their educational system. His stupid supporters, who are languishing in poverty with no quality education, will still support him come 2023. Poverty and ignorance is a crime against humanity.

There is a general perception that men from privileged homes find it easier to settle down compared to men from working class/poor homes. This is not true. Most guys from "privileged" backgrounds tend to be within the middle class-upper class bracket. So we aren't talking about the sons of billionaires like Adenuga or sons of Politicians. The guys I am referring to are the sons of top professionals, captains of industry, top civil servants and business people. These guys grew up in posh neighbourhoods and went to the best schools money could buy. Their parents are comfortable but do not have the financial clout that billionaire magnates or politicians have.

These guys have seen what exposure and wealth looks like. You would think that they will have a better chance to settle down with the girl of their dreams compared to a guy from a struggling background but that is not true. Most of these guys cannot sustain the lifestyle their parents gave them with their own salary. Even with their connections, they have to hustle on their own. When it comes choosing a partner, their options are limited. They cannot maintain the lifestyle of the girls they grew up with. In fact, securing a place of their own that matches what they grew up with is difficult. Imagine a guy who grew up in Ikoyi now looking for a place of his own in Yaba? Not easy. If their parents could not bestow them a place of their own it is very difficult. There are many guys in their late 30s who still live with their folks. This is not because they want to but it is difficult in this economic times to find quality accommodation.

A guy from a privileged home when deciding to get married has to consider the following factors: accommodation, schools, holidays for the family, health care and so on. Yes, every single person has to take that into consideration. However, a guy from struggling background doesn't have any a standard to look up to. As long as he has a job and a place of his own, he is good to go. Issues such as trips abroad, foreign tuition fees, foreign medical fees/private health care, having two cars for the family are not his concern. In contrast, a guy from a privileged home has to consider those things. If he can't afford to provide his family what his parents gave him, he has underachieved if not failed.

The country is tough. Everybody is feeling the pain. This article is not about putting anyone down or comparing people's struggles. It's meant to highlight the realities of single men from two different economic backgrounds. In a country where a man has 100% responsibility of taking care of the family, privilege is meaningless if you can't afford to back it up. It's either that or downsizing your lifestyle and becoming a laughing stock among your peers.

This lad is trying to guilt trip older bachelors into marriage lol. Don't fall for it. Only get married because you want to get married. Not because of loneliness or what society says. It's just crazy that all Nigerians talk about is marriage, kids and church/mosque. No social activities outside those things.

This is another proof of the level of mediocrity tolerated in a country like Nigeria. How can a village lack electricity for 12 BLOODY YEARS and no one blinks an eye?? There should be protests and probes over this issue. Do you know that the people of Palestine protested simply because they didn't have electricity for 24 hours ? Where are the elites from that village? You cannot tell me that there are no big men/women from that village irrespective of where they live. Anyways, people in this forum keep preaching the gospel of making money and becoming a "big boy" ignoring the poor environment they live in. These same clowns in this forum (at 80%) will tell you that Nigeria is the best place to be in the whole world and is even better than any developed country. Enjoy your mediocrity.

You are wasting your time. Nigerians are used to mediocrity. Anyone who is against the President is seen as a wailer or IPOB. They compare Nigeria to other banana Republics to proof a point that Bubu is working. No sane educated and exposed individual will still be supporting a Government that banned Twitter, massacred innocent protesters, granted herdsmen amnesty, allowed banditry and kidnapping to fester to the point that even the elites are being kidnapped and stood by while the Naira crashed against other currencies. The standard of living has declined in the past 6 years. Despite all of this, a sizeable number of people still support him. Nigerians really deserve their leaders.

Onepeople:
you are writing rubbish, must you compare Nigeria to every nation that is doing badly? Must Nigeria under clueless president be compared to every poor nation? Some of you that are paid to defend this madness have equally 4gotten where this nation was before this inept government took over ,2day 1dollar =#540,1 Ghanaian =68.90k ,continue lying to yourself and comparing the nation with everything bad in the world, as we must be worst than every nation on earth before we could accept that this confused government has failed the Nigerian's.

I can't even begin to imagine what you went through. I was fortunate as my folks had some contacts with NIS and could settle them on a discount. Why should one bribe/know someone in order to acquire your National Passport which is part of your entitlement? Not only that, you have to go there PHYSICALLY to collect it. In saner climes, once your passport is ready, it is posted to your home address. Nigerians really deserve their leaders. The only ones who have the right to complain are those who are unwilling to accept mediocrity.

florixi:
Uhmmmmm, that International passport aspect just got me emotional . if you now how much i just paid to one NIS officer yesterday(08/09/2021) to ensure my family passport is issue after two months of capturing ehheenh. ...I give up own this country! . i dont want to think about. really sad .

My sister, it's a waste of time educating these people. The average Nigerian is extremely materialistic. They lack foresight and believe that everything is about being wealthy. Nothing works in this country. No light, water, roads, health care, education, electricity or even security but all these ones talk about is how to make money. They aren't even ashamed that in 2021, an oil producing country like Nigeria cannot boast of constant electricity. Nigeria is good for them because they can oppress their fellow Nigerians with money.

Most people migrate to give their children a better life than they had. Imagine living in a country where you have to BRIBE someone just to acquire the national passport? A country where passports run out of print? Yet they are comparing it to a functional country like the U.S.? Some of these clowns complain about the cost of living abroad but are not willing to make financial contributions to improve the quality of living in their own country.

Grace001:
Mumu question

Since most of you think migrating is all about MONEY, it shows how selfish some people are.

Wise people migrate for the sake of their unborn kids/born kids just to give them a second nationality of a saner country where their kids can become whoever they want to become without the connection of commissioner,Senator or minister.

Since it’s all about your selfish self, stay here and do your business. Simple

That "madness" as you call it, is the reason why they were able to colonize a quarter of the world. There is nothing more dangerous than a determined white man (especially English men). They can go anywhere for "exploration" regardless of the risks. Forget all these Jihadist. Those ones only have mouth. White people are willing to go to any length in the name of "exploration" including traveling to space and entering the depths of the ocean. Also, the young lad also has a passport that offers him consular protection in any part of the world. He knows that the British Government will at least try to negotiate on his behalf. Let a Nigerian citizen (regardless of wealth) who has never benefitted from the Government try this nonsense.

akezn:
A human being will just wake up and say he is going to Afghanistan for vacation. Those people dey mad shaaaa

Nigerians love poverty. In fact, they flirt with it. In a country where there's no adequate social welfare scheme (trader money is a scam), why would any rational person do that to himself/herself? In a country where plantain is now an expensive commodity, why would any sane man who cannot even feed himself property add to his suffering? Don't you want better for yourself?? Look at the cost of rent, food, transportation and cloths. While I agree that not everyone will become rich, you should at least be comfortable before you decide to take on responsibilities. There are many married men who are thousands of Naira in debt borrowing money from friends and family in order to provide for their own family.

Do you know how many unemployed youths are roaming the streets with no support system? You are now telling them that marriage can solve their poverty? Africans man....you lots are so archaic in thinking.

You are not serious lol. As a previous poster stated, you should be comparing yourself to your mates who have set up companies/doing great things. Not comparing yourself to people who are married. Do you know what your "mates" are passing through in their marriage? They will not tell you. Marriage is not an achievement. The average Nigerian glorifies mindless procreation over innovation and creativity. There's more to life than having a family. Find your purpose in life first. Ask yourself what you are good at. What skills do you possess? When you have solved this riddle, everything, including women and children, will come to you in good time.

This thread has proven once and for all that most people people on this forum are tribalistic illiterates. I am not igbo but if she actually said that her mum told her that she's igbo why doubt it? All black diasporians are descended from Africa. Most of the descendants of slaves were taken from present day Nigeria, Ghana, Gabon, Sierra Leon, Gambia and Angola. It is a well-known fact that majority of blacks in Brazil and Cuba are yoruba descendants. Blacks from quite a few caribbean countries such as Haiti, Bahamas and others are descendants from the Igbo tribe. If her mother did a DNA test and the result of that test confirmed that she's igbo, why dismiss it? It is a shame that history is not taught in Nigerian schools.

Exactly. She choose the wrong example. Do you know how far New Zealand is from Nigeria? Then consider accommodation and other expenses. Also, the woman herself is not exactly the prettiest thing since sliced bread. Now if she had above average "beauty", that would be another topic entirely. These motivational speakers need to tone down their lies. Not all of us are gullible.

truthsayer009:
Women always want stories of "I was with him when he had nothing" so they can be called a virtuous woman.

Bro, what you said is the gospel truth. I have been saying this for ages, no man who legitimately struggled to make his money will now waste it on women. It doesn't make any logical sense. Even rich ajebutter kids don't do it. Some do but most won't as they are very selective of the women they roll with. Most of these women are only entitled because of the money politicians, Yahoo boys and entertainers spend on them.

pacespot:
If Nigeria is a country that works where people work hard for every penny they make, this kind of lady will get low patronage from men. But as long as we have some people in this country who are making stealing money at the expense of others, then lavish their ill-gotten wealth on women, this will continue to encourage women like this and make it look like the hardworking men are not doing anything.

Show me one business man that started his business from the scratch and built it up only to start lavishing his fortunes on women, or an employee with a multinational coy working day in and day out but will only choose to spend his salary on prostitutes, definitely you can't find such people. When people are productively engaged, they will be selective and prudent in what they spend their money on. But a politician who got rich through illicit funds can go about lavishing them on his mistresses to buy cars and build a mansion.

But why is it that most ladies in this part of the world see marriage or relationship as a poverty alleviation program for them? Women work for their own money in advanced countries even though they have a boyfriend.

Don't mind her! Doing a waitering job abroad is very different from doing a waitering job in Nigeria. The fact that he is furthering his education abroad means that he is not what you call "poor". He already had potentials. It was just a matter of time before those potentials manifested itself. She should talk another thing.

Aurelius1:
He was a waiter in New Zealand right? Try it in Nigeria and see if his waiter job can feed him talk less of sponsoring his education.

You and the people who liked your comment are among the biggest problems in this country. A country of 200 million people is losing its best and brightest to foreign countries and you are not concerned? A country that has a ratio 1 doctor per every 9,000 people is losing even more doctors and you are ignorant of the gravity of the situation? You think that the buck stops with them? More are on their way to join them. Honestly, you lots love suffering and smiling. Don't worry, you will understand the gravity of the situation in a few years time when you will struggle to find qualified medical doctors/nurses to treat you. The politicians that you are defending, including Bubu, receive medical treatment overseas. Continue to live in blissful ignorance.

louqas:
I wish them sucess

Thousands more in our medical schools to replace them

They wont be missed

I am so sick of this excuse. Is Nigeria the only country in the world that is gripping with poverty? What about Somalia, Burundi, Congo DR, Haiti or even Pakistan? Majority of people in these countries are poor but they don't destroy their countries image like Nigerians do. The problem with us Nigerians is greed. The average Nigerian is greedy. From the President to the common man in the street, the average Nigerian will do anything to make money. We lack contentment. I am not a saint but the fact of the matter is that there is a huge moral decay in this country that didn't start today. The generation that fought the Civil War started the steady decline of morals in Nigeria.

Pentagon007:
The problem lies with Nigeria as a country. No matter how hard you may try to disagree, one thing is obvious. A people coming from Deep abject poverty will care very little about Moral and laws when they see any slight opportunity they may exploit to better their situation. People will do this with absolute disregard for what ever you may think is right and moral. Poverty caused by Failed country system, is at the ROOT cause of the problem.

This is exactly what I said two months ago but majority, very predictable, ignored it. The only way for seccession to be a reality is for the south and Middle Belt to come together to for the North to the negotiating table. Every other avenue is a waste of time.

bjdon:
The sad thing is that this message wil spread across the north, and most the illetrate people wil believe it. This country truly has no future. I've been saying it, the south and middle belt should forget 2023 and put together a united front to demand restructuring NOW. Part of the restructing must include the rules and modalities for seccesion. Anybody who still belives in 'One Nigeria' and thinks this country can every work, needs their head examined

Just like your sister, girlfriend and cousins don't complain about what I'm packing. Don't start what you cannot finish. You aren't on my level academically, socially and intellectually. I was born and raised in V.I. Who are you? You can only chat shit in an anonymous forum like Nairaland.

SarakiBukola:
Your mum doesn't complain cos I am well endowed. Leave that one.

That's all you can say when you cannot counter someone intellectually. I will not stoop to your level. I will not be surprised if you are below 25. Adios. [quote author=SarakiBukola post=104214800][/quote]

You are a sick cunt. Just say congrats and keep it moving. There's no need for tribal banter on this topic. If white/arab man said that about your women, how will you feel?

SarakiBukola:
Fine girl.

When she's 21, she would be harvested by FFK or another Afonja.

By the time she's 40, she would be left for some mugu to pay high bride price and long list

This I have seen...

Bros, that advice is necessary. In this 21st Century, the worst thing you can ever do yourself as a man is to let your spouse know all your financial details. Most women aren't considerate. They can use that weakness against you. It's best to set up a joint account where both of you can contribute to running the house. If you are the sole provider, deposit a certain amount that is within your financial bracket. I know that it's not a good way to run a marriage but logic has to overrule emotions for the man's sake. Only tell them what you can afford to disclose.

pansophist:
But wait o, doesn't it mean a lack of trust if partners disclose their earnings? So things like giving the wife atm card to withdraw or hiding account alert ? Which kind marriage is that?

Trust me, he doesn't know anything at all and he keeps misleading a lot of ignorant people like him. What is the total number of Nigerians that travel abroad compared to the total population of the country?? The average 18 year old in the west has travelled to more countries than most adults in Nigeria.That dude is a visa reject and is using this forum to vent his frustrations.

seunny4lif:
I don see say the guy no know anything.

The only holiday an average Nigerians know is going to village or travelling to our family member for summer holidays.
Here Secondary students go on summer holiday to anywhere in the world and it’s cheap for them

Stop quoting that ignoramus. That clown has never left the shores of Nigeria. You will need therapy after reading a lot of his posts which are mere jargons. Europeans travel more than anyone in the world especially before the pandemic. Flights within Europe are cheap and competitive if you book on time. When I was a student in the UK, i knew quite a few EU students who used to travel to their own countries every weekend. How many Nigerian students can afford to do that? Only the rich kids could afford it.

seunny4lif:
From Italy to Spain to Germany down to Senegal, Morocco and Greece, how many Nigerians are there for holiday?

You think Nigerians travel more on holiday than the Europeans?
You must be high
Russians travel on summer holidays and spend more money on holidays than Nigerians.
Only small break Russia government announced about Russians not going to Turkey on holiday almost completely knock off Turkish Tourism industries.

Thank you! Finally, a like-minded person in this forum is saying it as it is! It's not about the money but the ability to travel anywhere without stress. What's the point of making money if you are continuously harassed by Immigration officials abroad because of the passport you carry? Foreign countries don't give a damn about your money but Nigerians don't get it! It's about not limiting yourself to Nigeria. The world is a global village. Having dual nationality doesn't mean that you have to live abroad. Nigerians are really short-sighted.

Grace001:
To some it’s all about making money, I see them as people who only think about now but not about the future. Leaving this shithole isn’t about money, it’s about giving your kids/unborn kids a nationality of a better country, where they can become whoever they want to be without knowing anybody. Going through hell to get a job after NYSC

Not everyone fancy traveling out of Nigeria, but don’t discourage others with that nonsense crap “you can make money in Nigeria”

But some mumu will be discouraging people saying you can make money, as if everything is about money. Your grandchildren will curse you even in your grave if they know you have the means to give them a saner country nationality but you refuse to do so because of your selfish act.

Even politicians are taking this path, making sure their wards have a sane country nationality, but continue to fool yourself by that crap “you can make money in Nigeria” you’d be begging to get a visa for vacation with all the money you’ve got

Only the wise can understand this

Exactly. That's why relationships & marriages in this country have gone to the dogs. A lot of successful married men got wives due to the size of their pockets. As such, they feel that is all there is to get a woman and they can use the same trick to sleep with any other woman. A lot of married woman don't care as long as they are "taken care of". When the man disgraces them in public like the late Mr. Ataga, they will now rant that "men are dogs". When he used money to marry you, you didn't know that he was a dog?

Materialism has destroyed relationships, let alone marriages, in this country. It's only going to get worse as the economy shrinks and both genders give up their humanity in order to survive this harsh country.

truthsayer009:
It's an hard pill to swallow, your post really made me laugh, "Most girls are not interested in your "character" as a man. All they want to know is you are baller/ on your way to being a baller"

If you ask me, this is one of many reason why some promiscuous married feel they can always cheat on their wives. They never had integrity before the marriage, so why should they have the integrity now? All they had was money & the women didn't care, after all It's better to cry in a range rover than keke napep.

You lots keep making the same mistake over and over again. When we tell you to stop dating slay queens you will not listen. When we tell you to stop dating girls from impoverished backgrounds you will not listen. When we tell you to stop dating jobless girls you will not listen.

I will give you a free tip. There are two types of women a young hustler should avoid. Those from very poor backgrounds and those from extremely wealthy homes. [/b]E get why. Also, women in this country are hustlers. [b]Before they have made up their mind to talk to you, they have already assessed you from the way you dress, your accent, your physical attributes and whether you have a ride.

Most girls are not interested in your "character" as a man. All they want to know is you are baller/ on your way to being a baller. How many times have guys from affluent backgrounds have ever being treated this way? Not to often due to the fact that girls know that they have plenty of options and are the prize. You the struggling guy on the other hand, don't have such options. They know that you have no choice but to manage what is in front of you. Think about it.

The bulk of nairalanders are "educated illiterates". They can't read to save their life. They will tell you that reading is too much stress. This is why Bubu and his clique are running the country with impunity. Most Nigerians are too ignorant to understand issues that affect them.

Ejebleje:
Several barely literate people on this forum. Just read comments above and you can only shudder at people's deep ignorance.

I cannot believe that a human being actually wrote this statement!! :oWhat do you mean "as long as he can read and write"? Do you know what the WTO is? Do you understand what it takes to even secure an internship with such as organization ? Even 1st class candidates have struggled to secure a place there. Please do the world a favor and log off from the internet. Go back to school and re-educate yourself. You are embarrassing educated Nigerians. This is why drop outs like Bubu are in the helm of affairs in this country.

Tinubuadvocate:
It doesn't mean as long as he can read and write.

There's nothing like peace mate. Southerners and Northerners have nothing in common. I don't believe in insulting someone because of what his father has done but people are angry. The economy is at an all time low. Millions of people have been thrown into poverty and destitution. The middle class has almost been wiped out altogether. Nigeria has never been more insecure. What they are doing is insensitive.

This affair should be conducted quietly. When Tony Blair's son got married a few years ago, the wedding was done quietly at his estate as he is very unpopular in Britain due to his decision to invade Iraq. Your President promised us that he will not be extravagant like his predecessors but he is even worse. The image he cultivated over the years is nothing but a mirage. The problem is that you lots don't know your rights and love oppression hence why they can do this sort of thing in your face and you will support them.

Flames000:
But has anyone noticed that nairaland comment section is filled with Hate?... Tribal Jests and all that.. if u doubt, go through all and see...
Why can't we live in peace without insulting one another or hating on one another... there will always be bad eggs amongst every tribe.. and zone.. but that doesn't mean we should dwell on things like this..


This kind of things tilt towards war.. and its only a man who hasn't experienced war that yearns for it....

Brother and sisters. Make we use our head.