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Nobody has given any reasonable answer. I also have similar need for a brother. My business can't keep sustaining him in this harsh economy.

Lummoni:
Aunty is Zulu, late husband I think he's Igbo I'm not 100% sure

Lummoni:
So the child belonged to the husband, then he passed and he "belonged" to his parents, they both passed and now he "belongs" to the sister, if she passes on who will he "belong" to then? He's busy being moved around ownerships like a piece of unwanted furniture when his mother is still alive

Send me a message to "Jonny Doen" on facebook.

I am an igbo man, born and bred, i can assure you this is completely out of order traditionally and otherwise.
Meanwhile, Abuja or lagos is far from any part of igbo land, almost like 2 different countries culturally and here we don't know about the so called berekete radio which is in Abuja. I've only read about them online.
Can you get the name of the village, community and state? That's only way to get you reasonable help.

Lummoni:
Yes he had a passport 11 years ago when he first entered Nigeria at 9 months old. That passport has obviously expired..

keep that passport and other baby articles as evidence. Check my previous reply. While processing his papers, get an SA court judgement, get a lawyer and adopt it in a nigerian court. For the right amount, a
midnight police raid and escort maybe all you need to get him from them. This is nigeria, ur biggest problem is money.

Estimate the cost of transporting a person btw SA-Naija and triple that amount. The extra two is for lawyer, police, etc and "logistics". Don't forget to have more money for "unforeseen occurrences".
IS UR AUNT THE CHURCH TYPE? HERE IN NIGERIA, Jehovah's witness and Assemblies of God i know could be of good help in this situation.
At worst, u can enrol him in a mission boarding school away from them. Then he can travel when other arangements are done.

Lummoni:
Sorry about that, I'm new to the forum so I've been trying to navigate how things work for the past few days. Aunt has another child and she has a 9-5 so she can't take too much leave from work. If she is fired, no money to see her son or send to support him.

I understand. No matter what, DON'T GET FIRED!
Well, she has to make do with multiple 3-day visits as her job permits. 1)get a clean photograph to process a Nigerian then SA passport for him. 2)apply for visa 3)book travel tickets, driver/guide, security escort.

1)Always carry birth certificate & baby photos. 2)The boy has to be made compliant for smooth travel operation. Police, immigration etc dont play wt trafficking, they'll notice any discomfort.

Meanwhile, try and get the neighbor to make more contacts for her incase the neighbor becomes indisposed. People not related to the family. Talk to Noone again about taking the boy because a secret known by more than one person has become a news broadcast.

Blessedmercy8:
Please note this was clearly for real born again Christians not children of the world.

Only God knows and can make someone "born again". You have no authority to pronounce who is what.
Your statements reeks of zealotry, fanatism, extremism and "causing a murmuring" or being a "stumbling block" in the congregation.
You are also displaying what Jesus condemned the pharisees of "burdening their followers" with irrelevances while failing to "lift a finger" to the law.

By the way, as a very spiritual person, i'll like to ask you people, Who in your church watched blue film to know which styles they use? The style pictured in blue film is it not people doing what people previously did? So, how is it blue film that invented styles? Is missionary not also pictured in blue film, so that makes it a sin too?

Blessedmercy8:
Islam can permit it, fine. we don't have the same religious beliefs and practices, so ..definitely not for christians.

Modified.
What I deduced from y'alls reactions here is. people enjoy and are so immersed in bad things a lot that if you try to tell them to stop, because it is sweeting them, they can bite off your head. That is what I see in all your reactions. .


Bad things dey sweet. This is why it is difficult for majority to live a holy life. Too many bad things.

The bible and quran both condemns uncleanness or animalistic acts and lack of self control. There is nothing unclean or animalistic about having sex with ur marriage partner except bestiality, anal, mouth, doggy, torture, necrophilia. scatology, canibalism etc.

There is absolutely nothing wrong or sinful with sex in shower, couch, kitchen, standing, sitting, lying down, wheelbarrow, cowgirl and all forms of normal penetration.

Lummoni no reply to any comment yet.
I think the man knew he was sick and told the family who now schemed this.
Was the man the only son of the family? Does she solely intend on caring for her son as a mother or to really snatch him away from them forever(their fear)? Can she locate them if asked to get to the address now? Does she have nigerian accomplices? (keep the neighbor aside)

It'll cost much money!

Whatever you decide, Never ask them for the child again or feel so pained when you see him. 1st strategy is keeping your cards to your chest.
You can visit randomly for a weekend (with multiple entourage ofcourse) never stay the night in the village. Make them realise you're just coming for visit not to take the child.

2)Mark your territory. Acquaint with some neighbors, relatives school, church &villagers as their late brother's wife and the boy's mother. Reestablishing ur face to the child because if you be caught anywhere with a child that doesn't know you, you're finished.
QUOTE ME 4 OptionB!!!

Nnaa ehn! How come, as in, like, how na?!

DeepThroater:
You are the bane of our problems and up till today you both refuse to accept your faults or repent from your folly of annexing the Niger Delta.

We are not one

The same Lugard map.. is the same author to the lumped eastern region.

the ND is not and will never be part of your Biafra .

I don't care what u and dat guy are fighting about. The cabal don't know the difference between Okojie, Okon, & Okoro even Oshiomole and forbids you all from aspiring to gain any relevant position in Nigeria as long as you are not fulani or ogun state. Know this and know peace.

If by Niger Delta, you mean bini, itsekiri, urobo, ijaw, efik, ibibio etc then good for you.
However, If you mean etche, egbema, ika, aniocha, ikwerre etc good for you too maybe you'll succeed in getting two igbo speaking countries or Y'all become igbo minorities in a republic surrounded by tribes that decided to hate igbo to death. Nobody force anybody nowadays.

[quote author=madamgrace post=118588794][/quote]The fool that wrote this piece of hate doesn't care that his own south-south brethren nor even other parts of yorubaland are not let to contest. Hating on "the igbo agenda" as they tag Peter Obi's campaign for equity and justice is in vogue so every parasite must write an article.
DO YOU HAVE ANY ALTERNATIVE FROM THE MARGINALISED REGIONS? IF NO, YOU ARE TALKING ABSOLUTE NONSENSE!
WE ARE NO LONGER INTERESTED IN FULANI-OGUN ROTATIONING OF PRESIDENCY.
I pity igbo people who allow y'all take them on this ride of tribal bigotry.
OBI IS NO MESSIAH. He was never meant to be. He is the forebearer.
Only one igbo man on the ballot is killing y'all like this, next time there will be myriads and no party will stand before them and the general elections. The days of igbo politicians cowering is coming to an end.
The igbo don't care whether Obi wins or loses neither does their survival depend on Obi's candidacy. So whether 1m or 10m votes, y'all can kill yourselfs.

Offpointng:
I've not been there but the way I hate that country ehn? you can't believe their level of unemployment rate is the highest in the world?? what then tf are Nigerians looking for there

I think Na birds of the same feather dey go there. They were world number one in rape, aids, crime etc. And xenophobia would never let me bother to check if their status has changed.

APC2:
Which country you will not like to go to even if you are given permanent residence permit, work permit or given citizenship status?


For me, I will not go to Kiribati, Nauru and Niue even if I'm granted citizenship status

It's SA after South africa. Then after them, it's SA again.

Abbeytoy:
I believe Obi should have considered the offer and chosen the best among them to be president rather than declaring that the presidency must go to the South...

Nothing will change in this country until we stop seeing ourselves as South, North, Muslim, Christians, and so on.

So, what change has come from seeing Nigeria presidency as fulani-ogun rotationary seat? Why was Goodluck so uncomfortable to bear that y'all had to gang up to dislodge him and Nigeria had to be made ungovernable via terrorism?
Why can't Wike, Akpabio, Amaechi, Obi and other parts of yoruba be allowed to run? Why are people tagged bigots for not supporting Ogun-Fulani rotationary agenda?

Why should Obi concede power rotation to the south? Will heavens fall if Kwankwanso became or provided the vice president? Does he have two heads? Obama became president with senior man Biden as running mate even though Biden had long been senator and ran for presidency before Obama's time.

Obidient4life2:
Must every one be a former governor?

Abi? He really wanted to be governor having ran for the seat 3 times in 1990, 1997 and 1998, the later which he eventually won.

yyba:
Was he ever sworn in as elected governor ?

Well, let's hear what his people have to say about what transpired.

2023 election seems to be a game of governors and senators as presidential and vice presidential candidates. From governors Ifeanyi Okowa, Peter Obi to Senator Datti-Ahmed while the likes of Tinubu and Shettima held both governorship and senatorial position. Even Rabiu Kwankwaso, the ANPP presidential candidate is not left out.

However, Atiku Abubakar, the former two term vice president of Nigeria, is taking a 6th shot at the presidency. Having previously lost at the primaries to Moshood Abiola 1993(sdp), Goodluck Jonathan 2011(pdp) and Muhammadu Buhari 2015(apc). He also came 3rd(ac) in 2007 and 2nd(pdp) in 2019 general elections.

While we may easily know that he has 28 children from about 5 or 6 wives, it seems that nobody was aware that H.E. Atiku Abubakar was in 1998, elected as the governor of Adamawa state before being picked as the vice presidential candidate in 1999 elections.

Shocker?! More shocking and begging for mature, legal and insightful answer is, WHY IS HE NOT KNOWN AS A FORMER GOVERNOR

lordparcel:
They have been listening to Andrew Tate

And what did he say?

Lexusgs430:
He clearly denied her access, hence her plan...... He is now busy crying wolf.........

.............

Well, she wasn't denied access no matter how you force that scenario in your head.
She was fighting everyday in the compound, started threatening to abandon the kids instead of finding job or business then, she went away with only the girl before she also decided to dump her too. Thinking the guy will suffer for it but nobody send her papa throughout all her childish actions and outbursts. So she vamoos to lagos and suddenly return in 3mths. Nobody stopped her taking the kids to her village for the weekend even though the guy wasn't home from work. Infact, the guy freely directed her on the phone. DOES THIS SOUND LIKE ANY CUSTODY ISSUE? WHAT IS A JOBLESS LADY DOING IN LAGOS IN JUST 3MONTHS WITHOUT ANY RELATIVES OR KNOWN ADDRESS THAT SHE HAS TO KIDNAP A 3YR GIRL? TRAFFICKING? PROSTITUTION? RITUAL?

dyera:
Abroad, monthly rent can be up to 50% monthly salary. In developed countries like Singapore for example.

Check their suicide rates among men. It's called modern slavery for a reason.

Lexusgs430:
..Always woman shaming and blaming the feminine gender..

No matter how bad a pancake tastes, it would still have 2 sides .........

Exactly, so, where is the 2nd side of the responsibility pancake? He has shelter and little income to start with, where is ur bitch friend's contribution?
My grandma acquired lands, supported the training of cousins and nephews even though grandpa had a high paying job in those days. My ma acquired lands, NCE, Bachelor's and master's degree even though my pa was also a govt officer. Where's ur bitch friend's contribution?
Kiss ur ass with the emotional blackmail & feminine gender bullshit. You see men nowadays have decided to be bitter feminist too & allow y'all reap whatever as e dey hot.
It's all woman blaming to confront a lady's uselessness with the truth and i gladly do it a million times a day even if it kills y'all.
WAS THERE ANY DENIAL OF CUSTODY ISSUE? WERE THE KIDS TAKEN FROM HER? HOW ABOUT THE CHILD'S SAFETY NOW?

Berankis:
I feel like your "strong 2:1" and your "first class jobless friends" are part of the reasons you haven't gone ahead with your life. The day you decipher life and ready to battle, is the day you to start to overcome.

expantiate biko on this deciphering life aspect cos i've run out of ideas to give younger ones hope. Even we wey be hunkles now need advice, for this regime no income is enough. Egg 100, action bitter satchet 150, dollar 800, bike 400k, motor 4milla, land nko?

Lexusgs430:
When you deprive a mother, the love and presence of her children......,...

You just turned a loving mother, into a beast .......

When and how was she ever a mother nevermind loving? By opening her legs without any efforts to fend for the kids? Or is it by abandoning them thinking she will punish the guy into begging her sorryass to come back but he managed the weight?

At what point was she deprived the presence of those children? Did anybody chase her away or snatch the kids from her? Did anyboby force her not to come back to the family? Does anybody stop her when she comes back to see them? Do you not see an ulterior motive in her having to lie to her own mum to abduct the child this time around? Where is she keeping the little girl without any relatives or confirmed job in lagos? How safe is the child among her roommates, boss, clients, neighbors?

You see how mad and twisted your thinking has to be trying to defend a useless woman?

Lexusgs430:
What just pinched you ........


Of what use is bringing children to the world, that one cannot financially cater for ........ They never asked to be born .........

Always look for your size, when you want to have children.........

You can help find the lady and ask her to look for her nagging, zero income size next time.
Was he unable to provide for them in the story or did he, his family & the girl's family beg u for help catering for the kids?
Why is ur bloodthirsty mind not concerned about the only issue at hand which is the safety of the abducted child? What is the lady's psychological condition? Is she mentally and financially balanced in a strange land she arrived just 3months? Why did she have to lie and sneak away with the baby this time around? Is she doing this for a good reason or is something/somebody coercing her? Haven't we heard of people hurting or trafficking their own kids for financial reasons or just to get back at their ex?

Lexusgs430:
Why would someone earning ₦55K, have sex without condoms..........

Comfortably skips women responsibility and your bitter soul doesn't care about the life of a little baby in this christmas and election period.
So it is the person with zero income that has right to sex without condom and kidnap a 3yr old girl into unknown circurmstances?
Why wasn't she bringing her own 55k to add? At least they're both "landlords" with caring grandmothers and other family members available, rent and some part of food is covered.
Bitterness against men won't do you any good in life.

Greattestman:
There's nothing i dont do. I give her 50% of my salary every month.

are you staying in family house or rented apartment? If ur popsy is not in the picture then she wants freedom to run some things.

If it's family house, tell her to find her own apartment if e dey pain am.
She's trying to push you out the nest but that is more harm in this generation of APC and cost of dollar and food with just 20k income.

Anyways, make u find more hustle to add that job or leave the job start bizness even if na hawking or okada level. I don't judge, I just really hate hearing somebody mentioning nonsense like 20k salary in this country.

Messi1:
I've always visited this my uncle ALMOST EVERYDAY to stay with my cousins. That is where I pass time..

Today I was in his house, he STORMED OUT FROM HIS ROOM and ask if i don't help my mother at home. He YELLED AT ME.. He said.. ..IF AT ALL I MUST COME.

I'm considering severing all ties to this my uncle, will that be right?

No, u will still respect and greet him as ur uncle but must now act according to his wishes by reacting symbolically as an african when person wronged you.
How do i mean?
Do not near that place till middle of January at least.
If any thing takes you to his house, set 15/20mins alarm on ur phone OR JUST DO STANDING GREETING, excuse urself and leave immediately.
Reject food in his house even if you came to introduce ur spouse to him or family meeting.
He'll either apologise or snub you. Bt u go keep ur little remaining dignity.

You weren't entirely wrong but his action was despicable. Somebody's uncle as in, substitute parent?! Tueh!

Lexusgs430:
I only read the initial tale, that OP posted .....

He could have sent subsequent updates, that I am not aware of. ..........

What point(s) are you trying raise ....... You know this dyslexic person, is also an illiterate............

Both rushed into the marriage (pressure from girl's mother due to pregnancy)

Op's salary of 55k is meagre and he didn't secure extra income source.

Pregnancy decided to be triplets (wahala pro max for them)

Young lady decided to contribute only nagging and fighting to the extent his uncle and family members wanted to oust them from the compound as they're tired of noise and separating fight.

Instead of finding job or business, she was threatening to abandon the children.

She left wt d gal, bt threatening to dump her with him as he wasn't giving her as much as she wanted.

He didn't succumb so she dumped her.

She went to lagos 3mths, no known job or residence and just came 2 kidnap d gal for only God knows why.

Lexusgs430:
Who dey teach you all this nonsense.........

It's common sense and logical thinking....... Their children, their responsibility.........

He got no right to just yank all the children away, not unless she is happy to have it that way .........

You can clearly see how the yanking away, got her perfectly executing her plans. ..........

are you dyslexic or something? Who is yanking who in this story? I even told u to go and read through and get the entire story.

litaninja:
What are you even saying?

a yam wondering

Lexusgs430:
He got no legal rights to deprive the mother, her motherly rights and obligations, towards their children.........

who dey teach una all these nonsense? First, he has all legal rights to scrutinize her income, shelter and child safety situation and deny her access to the kids if found wanting or there's a threat. Secondly, there is nothing like mother rights. Thirdly, you need to follow and read all of OP's story completely.